candidates in new hampshire senate race and the candidates for governor in washington state. >> in new hampshire's u.s. u.s. senate race income at republican kelly ayotte is up against governor maggie hassan. they met for a debate that cover topics including health care costs, national debt and opioid addiction. wgir radio hosted the debate with video courtesy of cable news channel and h. one. this is 45 minutes. >> with that work to do as governor but i hope to be able to do for the united states senate is build a future for our

country where hard-working people know if they are working every day they can get ahead and stay ahead, where we grow our middle class and so we are all striving together and where parents are confident that their kids will have a better future. that's the vision that democrats share and because we share that in because it's a visit -- vision that hillary clinton sherzai support hillary clinton. i know this edition of bernie sanders supporters share and that's why so many support hillary clinton as well. i will never fail to stand up to leaders of my own party if i have. for instance i differ with secretary vented and the president on the president's proposal to close on panama. i don't support that proposal. i differ with the present of the tpp. i don't support it. i differ with secretary clinton on the internet sales tax. i'd differ with senator clinton on taking a temporary pause to make sure that our vetting system for refugees is as effective as possible so those

are issues i stood up to hillary up to hillary clinton about but let me just be clear. to equate hillary clinton and donald trump in the same sentence is unacceptable and i am very concerned what you didn't hear my opponent say is why she supported donald trump for over a year as he made one sexist comments after the next as he made one racist comment after the next and that he made fun of people with disabilities. he's the man to seems to think rule to use a sport and her support for him has been unacceptable. >> moderator: rebuttal to senator ayotte. ayotte: first of all i have to announce donald trump statements on many issues that governor hassan has identified and i've clearly said laura stand on donald trump and hillary clinton. i won't be voting for either of them. >> moderator: are you writing in mike pence? ayotte: i will dan let me just say if you look at the issues that governor hassan is talked

about recently she was interviewed by the monitor but secretary clinton's plan to bring 65,000 syrian refugees here and she would not answer where she stood on that. so if you think about issues about protecting the country, the iran agreement, when you hear her talk about the differences of either -- >> moderator: we will come back to that. a quick, governor. hassan: senator ayotte until last saturday was willing to vote to put donald trump in the situation with access to nuclear codes and he is the same person on saturday as he was on friday as he was the previous day and that shows a very concerning lack of judgment. with regard to secretary clinton's refugee proposal i think we should be talking about numbers at all. i think we should take a temporary pause in an our

vetting system. >> moderator: the next question was brought up by one of you in the beginning. one of the things i believe a lot of people are feeling of wondering if we will talk about the economy a little bit here. is health care costs are going up in new hampshire. they're not coming down. deductibles are going up. the affordable care act was supposed to make health care more affordable. governor, why our health care costs so expensive in some would say keeping business out of the states or affecting a business's ability to grow. you support the affordable care act? hassan: health care costs are a continuing concern as they have been for a long time. when i first ran for the state senate one of the reasons iran as because there have been a health care law passed in new hampshire that had raise premiums by 200 to 300% for small businesses and i was part of a bipartisan coalition back then to overturn that law and begin to take on insurance

companies and work to improve access. but here's the thing about the affordable care act. while there are issues with it we do need to make improvements. we don't want to go back to a time before the affordable care act for people with pre-existing conditions couldn't get health insurance. we certainly don't want to repeal medicaid expansion. we have a bipartisan health protection program that gives medicaid expansion to over 50,000 granite stators have insurance because it including behavioral health insurance that wasn't available. four. i will always stand for people's access to health care and i will block any attempt to take away health care from 50,000 hard-working granite stators. i'm i'm happy to want to continue this discussion to talk about what we do need in a repealing the medical device tax getting generic drugs to market more quickly and rewarding

quality health care instead of quantity which would bring costs down. >> moderator: thank you governor. affordable care act senator ayotte just real quickly donald trump and republicans people say you need to repeal it. probably not realistic to lyrically speaking. i think you would agree, and repealing it so what do you replace it with but first on the affordable care act and if you are against it we replace it with? ayotte: let me say the affordable care act is not so affordable for people in new hampshire. we were told if you like your plan you can keep it and we know so many people lost plans that they wanted to keep and are paying much more. the claim was that families would be paying $2500 less. they are paying so much more. the average increase nationally is 25%. we are waiting to hear what the increase will be this year in new hampshire. higher deductibles, higher co-pays and less money in people's pockets. we have an insurer leave the

exchange at 11,000 people had to find new insurance as a result. even present no clinton has said it's a crazy system where you have hard-working people who are being crushed in paying so much more. if you want to change this certainly there are differences. i want to have more competition, more choice not one-size-fits-all in washington. i want to expand health savings accounts and flexible spending accounts. it wantage be sure we address these and those who need the support he can afford health care but it shouldn't be done in the way it's been done. it's an issue where if you want to make significant changes to the affordable care act there is a big difference in this race and i will be fighting to make sure people in new hampshire have affordable health care and are paying higher premiums and higher co-pays from the one-size-fits-all from washington which we have seen from this bill. in fact secretary clinton wants to expand the affordable care act as opposed to really addressing fundamentally the

problem with that. >> moderator: governor quick response. hasan because of our medicaid expansion program we have more competition on exchange than we did before his past and actually more insurers in new hampshire than we have had in a while and that's very important. so is taking nonprescription drugs cause and big pharma in order to address health care costs. we realized pharmacy companies were playing gimmicks in terms of charters are basic products. we sat down with our employees and found a way to lower costs. one of my concerns in the difference between senator ayotte in me as she talks about changing the affordable care act but she voted to repeal medicaid five times which would take health care away. ayotte: clearly i have voted for two years but to actually give states the flexibility to design a program how they want to design it but the real issue as

real issue is the look at this what about all the people with higher deductibles and higher co-pays, less -- and this is a crazy system and we have to address it. i think this is a big difference and i will fight to address for more choice, more opportunity for people to have lower health care costs. >> moderator: i think both of you have been a part of my show and sometimes i like to break up the format with quick questions and then continue but i wanted senator the next question to you. some people may want to know where your vote is and i will start with the governor. the american corporate tax break there has been a lot of debate on that but nothing gets done in washington. is the american corporate tax rate short answer please, to hide yes or no and where do you think it should be ballpark what percentage? right now ready 5%. too high or not? hassan: too high for other corporations and others get huge

tax breaks. i'm proud of the fact that we have cut corporate taxes in new hampshire and i will just say i hope you come back to one of senator ayotte last comments because it was doublespeak at its best. >> moderator: senator ayotte? ayotte: absolute too high. we have the highest taxes in the world and art jobs are going overseas but let me address also she talked about cutting business tax. if you want to talk about doublespeak she vetoed the total budget because of the business tax reduction. >> moderator: i will come back to the statehouse are state issues of the moment but before you get to the dead one other quick question. we are tired about health care costs and some people may want to know this. medicaid expansion has been brought up a lot. governor i think you said 50,000 people in new hampshire, lower-income people get health care they may not have gotten. hassan: hard-working people.

moderator: some governors mainly maine have made news on this but haven't got the best press. do you take things like some of the public programs, the food stamp ebt program medicaid expansion. one of the gubernatorial candidates senator forester raised should we have any kind of work testing testing for somo can do part-time or full-time work to get them off some of these programs if they can or do you think that's unacceptable and that's a quick question for both of you. ayotte: yes i think we should be able to encourage that and that's why i think the station that the flexibility to design the program that will best serve the people that need help and give them the opportunity to have a good paying job and better quality of life. >> moderator: governor? hassan: lets go back to one thing, the concern i had about what senator ayotte said when she said she voted to extend medicaid expansion. she has voted to repeal a five

times an extension she is talked about so she will wait a year or two before she takes away health care for 50,000 hard-working granite stators. that's what why referred to is washington doublespeak. but let's talk about getting people off of public assistance. the gateway to work program proposal that right now is being blocked by republicans in the state legislature but i'm hoping we will make progress on it and it would help people get into the workforce and off public assistance. what we also know his access to health care transportation and childcare are some of the major reasons people don't get off public assistance and that's why medicaid expansion is so important. >> moderator: thank you for answering that. washington doublespeak where can i move on? ayotte: here's the situation. i voted for it for two years so we can come together and address the issues of rising health care

costs and we didn't hear governor hassan answer whether she would report the medicaid expansion. >> moderator: quick question she said would he want to take away the medicaid expansion? ayotte: i want to make sure there's more flexibility in on how to address and serve the people best in their state. >> moderator: senator 90 seconds and governor 90 seconds. i'm allowing back and forth which is refreshing for a lot of us. the debt, the national debt comment changes. it's going up. it's closer to i thank 20 trillion to 19. is it a problem and specifically and i will start with you senator tell me some specific ways we could cut it. would you cut a program? how to make up the debt and is it a problem because you don't hear much about it in the national news. ayotte: $19 trillion in debt is totally unacceptable for all of us and our future. everybody -- i'm always looking

for ways to cut spending weathers wasteful programs like the missile to nowhere. money that was flowing in our enemies hands. where i've cut spending, it worked across the aisles with joe manchin on a bill duplication elimination act so all of these reports that the mother figure that talk about fraud and abuse in duplication would require not only the president that the congress to vote on them and address them. on the budget committee and helped craft the first balanced budget in 15 years and also i feel strongly that we do have to do things differently. i would like to take tax reform because i think if we do that we can have more revenue. we make our businesses more competitive and keep jobs here it will address the data and make our economy stronger as well. governor hassan has a record of

proposing significant spending increases as governor and also taxing reasons in terms of how she wants to pay for spending, including the llc tax on our small businesses that would be basically an income tax on small businesses. car registration, she wants to tax it. i don't think that we should be taxing our way to addressing the debt. mail the original question was with the debt and is a problem and if so how would you lower the? hassan: yes it's a problem and i have a fiscal plan that your listeners can look up on our web site that addresses performing our budget process. i support senator shaheen's effort to take new hampshire approach for two-year budgets to washington to reduce wasteful spending. that would eliminate tobacco subsidies. we had to make data-driven decisions in government something the federal government doesn't do much to see a

programs are really working and we are getting a good return on our dollars. we have to strengthen and reform medicare and social security but we also have to make sure medicare and social security are there for the people who have paid into it and have earned those benefits. it's a big difference between senator ayotte of myself. she has voted to turn medicare into a voucher system and protecting social security from benefit cuts and we have to make sure we have the economic growth that allows us to continue to grow and continue to work on reducing our national debt. the last budget i proposed as governor was actually about $250 million less than the one that's craig benson are less republican governor and republican legislature enacted. i have cut business taxes in both terms governor and proud of the bipartisan decision-making to that had his cutting taxes while also investing in a critical economic priorities that this is a tell me they need.

the number one thing businesses talk to me about is the 21st century workforce and how we train them and that's one of the things that do contain to work on. >> moderator: would you care for rebuttal senator? you don't have to use it really can move on. ayotte: first of all on one of her talking points i certainly believe that we need to strengthen and preserve medicare and social security and these are issues -- my mother's on social security and medicare. actually governor hassan in her proposed budget proposed cutting $7 million from nursing homes so if we want to talk about protecting seniors i have done it and i've also for reforming the program. if you look at ways to address younger generations so when she talks about medicare absolutely if we don't address it in 2028 there will be deficiencies in medicare. i certainly believe protecting seniors and medicare and i have fought to do that and we need your talk about the attack

situation she proposed in her budget at 25% increase on a car registration and proposed numerous tax increases and she vetoed the budget she now claims credit for that wanted to reduce business taxes. >> moderator: governor do want to respond? house respond? houston i just want to say this. it's not surprising to hear senator ayotte after her years in washington fail to appreciate that you can actually stand up for fiscal responsibility as i did when i took the budget the budget in the mork crossed party to broque or a compromised and get to a place we have important safeguards in place so we can both cut taxes and protect critical investments and critical things like substance-abuse funding. and you know what, there's enough credit to go around. that's something that is so different from washington. senator ayotte voted with ted

cruz five times to shut down the government and i think if there's a real difference in approach -- >> moderator: i was going to move on but you both keep talking about the budget in new hampshire so the next question is for the governor. the majority leader would with a regular on my show said this last week and maybe some of the paid advertising which i will come back to you to respond. he takes offense that you are taking credit for the budget that you vetoed for the reduction of business taxes and some would say during that time because it was a the period of a few months that is part of that the drug war. those were his words on wednesday so are you taking credit for the senate leader's budget for political gain? hassan: first of all a mic washington what we did was after he needed to veto the budget because the numbers did not add up and it's as simple as that your job as governors to make sure you have a balanced budget and respond to the needs of the people and businesses of your stay.

we kept running and funding while we negotiated a compromise, compromise that had importance to guard. but those business cuts we didn't have to be concerned that in a year or two years we wouldn't have the money to continue to address our substance misuse challenge. i think there is plenty of credit to go around and i think it's getting to be a political season where for buddies arguing who should get credit for what appeared if you want to go back to a couple of things that senator ayotte said. first of all in i medicare the record is what it is and people should look it up for themselves but she has voted to turn medicare into a voucher program and is cosponsored a bill in 2011 that the aarp said would be challenging and difficult for medicare and social security recipients. on the nursing home point that she made, we were able with careful management to make sure

the nursing homes did get that increase in funding but what i was instructed to do by the budget that the legislature passed was make $7 million in cuts generally from the health and human services budget and i decided when i had to name how i would do that to delay increases, not cuts nursing home budgets. >> moderator: senator you can respond to senator bradley's criticism that the criticism of the from the governor side's side of belief from her campaign versus third-party and i would like to state the third-party spot and you both agree that you don't control those. in addition and a comment the last comment on the budget and who is taking credit or not also criticism of you from the governor. you can respond in her 90 seconds. you are in the pockets of big oil, big insiders. that's been a constant attack on you. ayotte: first of all with the budget when you want to talk about acting like washington did she vetoed the budget to address

our heroin epidemic, to address mental health that we needed. at the time basically she said there was a 90 million-dollar hole by the tax reductions and then eventually agree to those reductions and it was overridden by members of the opposite party in her own party on the budget and now takes credit for it. so this is just, you want to talk about taking credit for something and doublespeak that's been clear about the budget and i think that's why jeb bradley is upset about it and other leaders who worked hard to craft the budget that she vetoed. when it comes to medicare first of all it may be clear, i have received an award for the work i have done by the aarp, the work i've done on caregiving and the work i've done in helping seniors. in terms of medicare we do need to preserve it. i voted to preserve and

strengthen medicare part d, stop medicare advantage cuts make sure doctors rates aren't cut and i'm certainly not going to do anything to harm my mother or anyone on medicare. for the younger generations i have supported giving them the choice of whether they want medicare as it is or if they want to have other choices but not for anyone out of retirement. for her to say that we should look at different ways to address lower costs of medicare when i'm making sure that people have medicare so doesn't go belly-up that's not want to solve this problem. hassan: first of all on medicare and big corporate special interests, senator ayotte has failed to stand up to big pharma which is a major funder for campaign to allow medicare to negotiate for prescription drug prices. she voted against allowing the importation of prescription drugs from canada which would

help us lower our costs including in medicare and she has failed, i think she voted against allowing generic drugs to get to market more quickly. she also stood with wall street in voting against closing tax loopholes for hedge fund managers. she has stood with big oil over and over again at the expense of our natural resources. the record as is there and i'm happy to talk more about it. >> moderator: you want a quick rebuttal? ayotte: this is one of governor hassan's favorite talking points. if you let your tv, it could be up to $100 million in this race. i wanted to keep special-interest money op-ed i've often heard people pledge the same place i was in place in the senate race that senator shaheen offered. but let me talk about, she talks about things like pharma. first of all it's not true that i don't want to get generic drugs, push for that and by the

way when it comes to big pharma she is actually raising money from lobbyists for big pharma. she doesn't want to talk about that, raising money from lawyers who represent wall street for taxpayer bailouts. and you can go down the line on each issue. >> moderator: a rebuttal for a quick? hassan: $2.5 million from wall street to the senator ayotte's campaign at this point voting with the koch brothers nearly 90% of the time in her first four years in office failing to stand up to big pharma which she has had the opportunity really do something. one more thing, jack. i support overturning citizens united which is what is allowed to start money into politics. i signed a strengthened the pledge. ayotte: with talk about her favorite talking point on the so-called koch brothers. first of all they are quite

critical because i've stood up to protecting new hampshire's environment. 10 group supported by people like harry reid chuck schumer might limburger former mayor of new york. we could have could have kept that money out. she didn't allow it. >> moderator: this is the most expensive senate race in the country and i think we could spend the rest of the hour on this but i'd rather move on to other issues if i may. the next question is for senator ayotte. before you go to that i don't want to miss some important topics of this is a quick one for both of you. i will give you 30 seconds each. the 2nd amendment, gun control efforts and gun ownership and the right to bear arms and guns. a lot of our listeners care about this. i know that every day on my show. in general i think you both said you are pro 2nd amendment but if you want to characterize your opponent are there any differences whether background checks, any additional gun control laws if you are elected

governor or reelected senator that you would support that may come before you as a senator? is very big difference between gun control and i will start with you governor. hassan: eyes fully support the right of response above gunowners to hunt. them protect themselves and their homes. i have supported a long tradition of gun safety laws that governor milton thompson said works pretty well. the biggest difference between the two of us is senator af has repeatedly had the opportunity to vote to expand background checks of terrorists and other people who shouldn't have guns can't circumvent our background check law and buy them at gun shows. that's a national security issue as well as a community safety issue and there's a big difference. >> moderator: thank you for your answer. senator? ayotte: i've spent my career focusing on keeping new hampshire save working with victims of violent crimes.

i strongly support the 2nd amendment and there's a big difference in this race. governor hassan has an f from the nra. she has built to protect the rights of gun owners in new hampshire but when it comes to enforcing our laws keeping us safe from criminals and terrorists not having guns i've supported strengthening the prosecution of violations of our laws. i've supported making sure if you are a terrorist you can't have access to a firearm but i'm going to make sure i stand up for the 2nd amendment right for people in hampshire. >> moderator: senator dennis question is for you. 90 seconds and allowing some rebuttal back and forth. one of the subject that is come up and erase a lot, think it's part of the story this morning. if you look the tabloid stuff on e-mail the iranian nuclear agreement. i would have to say a lot of people are confused by this because they hear secretary of state john kerry and the president say it's a good agreement. we had no choice to keep the proliferation of nuclear weapons

in i ran mactown and vinegar stories it's stories about agreement that we sold out, that was a form of appeasement that it could lead to the iranian nation if you will enrich and uranium outside of our control and producing a nuclear weapon. you criticized governor hassan and i want to ask you could that agreement and are you concerned with the? ayotte: it's a bad deal because it's going to allow i ran not to keep infrastructure that will allow to legitimately have nuclear weapons capabilities at least within 10 years if not sooner and what have we seen from the bad behavior. testing ballistic missiles in violation of u.n. resolutions and writing on the side of some other missiles that they want to wipe israel off the face of the earth. there's no reason iran should be

focusing on missile testing. think about the cash they are supporting and money that they have gotten from this administration supporting terrorism. they are threatening our naval vessels in the persian gulf. they are also supporting groups in yemen that are taking aggressive steps against them, most recently so this is a very bad deal for our country and it is one that makes us less safe and our allies less safe than and it's one i have opposed. i think we should have taken a much stronger position in not allowing them to keep their nuclear infrastructure and their support for terrorism which has grown and continues with this deal in place. >> moderator: governate been criticized by senator af publicly on this show but in the past on this nuclear, the iranian nuclear deal. do you support it or not?

hassan: iran should never get a nuclear weapon and never will as long as there's something to say about it. like senator shaheen and experts in both put equal parties i think this is an imperfect but important agreement and the first step in many we need to take to continue to hold i ran accountable and continue to protect israel among others. one of the things your listener should know is the israeli military chief of staff said that this deal removed the most, the biggest threat to israel and he and many other military leaders in israel support this deal. not because it's perfect but because as a result of the deal iran has destroyed much of its nuclear infrastructure and is much farther away from getting a nuclear weapon than it was before the deal was made. back at the end of the day is what this is about help israel

maintain its military superiority. we need to do more to hold i ran accountable. i support extending the i ran sanctions act but at the end of the day when you listen to the israeli military leaders this has removed the most significant threat to israel's existence and it's a first step in many. >> moderator: senator do have a rebuttal? ayotte: i would listen to the leader of israel prime minister netanyahu called this a historic stake and the people of israel and their highest level officials including their defense minister continued to oppose this agreement and are concerned when they know that their ballistic missiles being tested that are written in hebrew on the side that say let's wipe israel off the face of the earth and they have a regime that denies the holocaust and continues to promote aggression against israel by supporting terrorist groups like hamas and hezbollah and to say

we support this agreement is not the case. by the way what she's talked about stopping iran this agreement enables i ran -- iran iran -- >> moderator: i want to get to some other policies and grow quickly please both of you. the next president if you are in the senate may ask for authorization. it is determine iran is not living up to this agreement and they do have a nuclear weapon ready to go. asaad intelligence tells us it's verifiable how far should we go in stopping it. in other words should be taken out? if you had a vote in the press and was asking you? hassan: that's quite a hypothetical in the sense that that -- look everything is on the table to protect the united states of america and everything is on the table to protect israel because israel and the united states have an unshakable alliance based only on our joint security interest that on our values. we need to do everything we can

to keep israel secure and to make sure they preserve the democratic jewish character. that is for sure. we have a real difference of opinion the senator and i about this and before this agreement i ran -- iran was under the cloak of dark as developing nuclear weapons. this is an imperfect agreement that it keeps us safer and we have to keep working to do other things as well. >> moderator: senator, can we move on? ayotte: i think this issue is a bad deal. >> moderator: serious in the news a lot and as you listen to the debate in the u.s. senate governor maggie hassan and senator ayotte. it's commercial-free but isn't it nice to hear issues? just a comment from yours truly. governor, syria a very important situation at the complete and utter mess.

assad killing of children and women, civil war basically and we could do a whole hour or two on this i think you both would agree but what should our role be there and there has been debate on the presidential side about this. did we buy not getting involved in the civil war a few years ago create a vacuum for isis to form should we go and? should we go in and punish assad for what he is doing or should we stay out? a lot of people want to know we have veterans on the line here. there are troops fighting around this. it's a big and talked about story. and though it's only -- but what should our role be in serious? hassan: first of all we have to do everything we can to destroy isis and i've laid out a plan in my national security plan to do that. we need to increase airstrikes. we need to continue to search our special operations especially to go after command and control and surge our intelligence in iraq.

we have to work with international partners to allow them to arm moderate forces like the kurds in syria. it is long past time as well for the united states congress to take up the debate and pass an authorization of use of military force. the american people lack sanderson and what it's going to take to take isis out. i'm very disappointed that congress hasn't done that today. we also know in recent weeks russia's behavior in syria has been outrageous. i think it's appropriate that secretary kerry called for the investigation of their actions as potential war crimes and i think we will have to look at assad's positions as well because the syrian regime has been brutal to some people and it looks as if they may have committed war crimes as well. we are going to also have to

work with the international community and this is why it's so important to have a strong international community, to look at what a post-assad staple syrian government would look like. it's one of the reasons that i'm so concerned about the republican -- >> moderator: senator you have been in the region. ayotte: i've been to the refugee camps in jordan and many of those converted by the assad regime. this is about american leadership and when you have a president who lays out red lines and then doesn't follow through and you have a situation where then your allies can't count on you and your enemies feel emboldened. this is about strong american leadership. we have to understand one of the things that during my time on the armed services committee the military has wanted to keep a

follow-on force in iraq because they were concerned they would be a vacuum created. in fact the president with a campaign promise supported by secretary clinton who was the secretary of state to pull those troops out of vacuum is created in iraq in syria where you have ice is forming this caliphate. absolutely we need to defeat isis and destroy them because they represent this threat that we face from radical islamic terrorists that want to destroy our way of life. that you need a strong plan from this president and one of the reasons he went to the congress with members on both sides of the aisle on the foreign relations committee couldn't support it because there was no in my view strong plan to destroy isis which does include more military strikes and by the way there are 4500 of our men and women in uniform on the ground right there.

give them rules of engagement to take out isis and give them strong american leadership and engage our allies. both the airport and nato. >> moderator: avenue u get a rebuttal on this one thing the senator touched touched upon is a quick question i was going to ask. she said we should not have produced a reduction in force in iraq and was a mistake even though it's a political promise the president made. if you have a say in a matter which of for truth to stop that back them and a follow-up on syria in rebuttal. hassan: first of all we were misled into war in iraq by president george bush and his administration and secondly was president george bush to make a commitment to withdraw those troops. that's something i would have tried to work to change because the sudden withdrawal predictable withdrawal could create a vacuum but to say this was president obama's fault when it was the push of ministers agreed to it because the iraqi

government would agree to protect our troops is wrong. at the end of the day we do need to have strong american leadership and for over a year my opponent has supported donald trump who has suggested we should weaken nato has suggested we should have more nuclear weapons in the world and won't share plan to defeat isis because he doesn't have one. >> moderator: if you want a quick comment their senator otherwise i would like to speed things up. ayotte: i would like to comment. my husband served in the iraq war and i'm very proud of his service and i'm very disappointed. i served on the armed services committee and i listened for military leaders who said that follow one needed to be there to make sure the vacuum was not created and there is no status of forces agreement now with 4500 troops we have there. this is about fulfilling a campaign promise instead of making sure we have american

leadership to put us in a better position so isis would not metastasize and become the fact that they are. >> moderator: the drug crisis, number one problem facing the people in new hampshire according to the most recent survey at the university of new hampshire. by the show and the experts we have had on it's not getting better at least this year. close to 500 new hampshire residents and if you look at the news each day and we both know this, and they have families. the other day a stepfather was charged as a 19-month-old baby had contact with fentanyl. people are being stopped by the police and bear passed out from a drug overdose everyday. first responders are responding and in bartlett new hampshire a big heroin bust. 500 people are going to die at the end of this year from drugs. last year it was 439. the governor has been on my show

and she will have a moment there. senator is it getting better or worse and you are a u.s. senator. he pushed for legislation on the opioid crisis. you have been -- classy about not pointing fingers at each other but as the governor what needs to be done and is a getting worse or better? ayotte: jack unfortunately we continue to lose people so it is getting worse in some ways because i keep meeting parents who have lost someone that they love. they have lost a son or a daughter or a brother or sister. it's devastating. the national level and work for three years on a bipartisan basis. two of us republicans into democrats came together and went to the people on the front lines to put together a bill called the comprehensive recovery act focusing on the best programs and focus from the federal level

to focus on those programs and prevention treatment and recovery. this issue is also about interdiction. the armed services committee, its coming over from mexican drug cartels. i've been pushing for $190 million for more interdiction of heroin on our southern order. this is about our security. >> moderator: just 10 seconds. hassan: i hope so but we continue to lose people. i talked to our first responders on right along so i think there is more work that needs to be done on the half of the of new hampshire. >> moderator: governor the drug crisis. hassan: i have met so many granite stators who are suffering the loss of a loved one because of this terrible epidemic or who are in recovery. i visited the nicu at elliott hospital where you see babies who are born with neonatal

syndrome. we have to continue to work every day together across party lines to combat this terrible epidemic. i have done a number of things as governor starting with sustaining drug task force funding and fighting for medicaid it's banned -- expansion in emergency funding we got out the door and got passed in june and are getting out the door now. on the federal level we absolutely need emergency funding. all governors agree on this. we need to work on prevention, treatment and recovery and supporting law enforcement including working at the borders >> moderator: we are short on time and i want to have time for closing remarks and by the way based on a coin toss i will let you know who that's going to be first and second real quickly you both in my opinion have been very proactive on veterans care and i didn't want the hour to go by without talking about her heroes the real -- the we thank

you both again and i hope you get into some substance. real quickly would you commit to trying to make this choice program were lexically start hospitals for heroes and i heard from a veteran the other day in nashville. appointments are being approved. things are getting approved. all i want is a commitment. will you continue to commit in the same question for the governor to make this choice program real? ayotte: nothing is more important to me than getting this right. >> moderator: thank you for the prompt answer. i appreciate your help with that as they did the governor. hassan: i will commit to getting the choice program the daughter of veteran and i think this is something senator ayaan i can agree on. >> moderator: we are at that time writing we have a minute for each to close so can we get to it? based on the coin toss i believe governor you are going first.

governor thank you for being here. i've been close. hassan: thank you to you and your listeners and senator ayotte for being here as well. as we are speaking of veterans i think about the fact that my dad was who was a world war ii veteran fought the battle of the bulge would look at is that the breakfast table 1 is growing up and say what are you doing for freedom today? that was a daunting question to a 10-year-old that but he was serious because he was a part of a generation, we have come to know them as the greatest generation by believing something greater than themselves save the world from hitler and built this country to the greatest economic and military force this world is over now. that's the spirit that i have brought and tried to live by if governor. it's the spirit that should inform our work in washington d.c. and ultimately this election comes down to whether new hampshire will have a senator whose agendas shape a corporate special interests who

are to have too many senators on their site or someone has a record for fighting for the priorities of people in new hampshire. >> moderator: saturday at closing remarks. al. ayotte: i want to thank you jack in your listeners and governor hassan for being a today. everyday work -- wake up with a sense of purpose to focus on getting things done for our state whether it's a harrowing bill that i work for three years to pass on a bipartisan basis or the care that we need for veterans whether it's making sure we make it easier for small business is in addressing the problems with the affordable care act the higher deductibles and co-pays and speculations that make it more difficult for them getting our fiscal house in order and keeping the country safe in a dangerous world from countries like iran. as racist is about who's going to stand up in new hampshire no matter what. governor hassan has been run by powerbrokers like carrie reid and chuck schumer. i will stand up no matter who's

in the oval office and worked to get results for the people in the state. >> moderator: i want to thank senator ayotte and governor hassan and our entire team are network of stations i will. i want to thank eastern bank in renaissance fire. and thank you to her listeners who asked me to ask questions of substance. i received several messages to thank you both candidates for being substandard and getting issues talked about. i wish the national media would take note and get back to some important issues. catches monday through friday in new hampshire. thanks for joining us.

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logistics of the sinners like this and have the absence of one individual can cause three of us do not have seats. >> vice vice president went to see her tonight. you have said many times in this campaign you want to give america back to the little guy. >> mr. vice president, i am that man. >> it's an honor to share the dais with the great al smith and al your great-grandfather was my favorite kind of governor. the kind who ran for president and lost. >> you are right a campaigner and can require a lot of who wardrobe changes. blue jeans in the morning perhaps, suits for a lunch fund-raiser, a sport coat for dinner but it's nice to finally relax and to wear what we wear around the house.

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the washington state debate coalition and the seattle city who posted this hour-long debate. [applause] >> moderator: good evening to the columbia basin college were tonight we hear the final debate between the candidates for governor republican bill bryant and democrats jay inslee. imc or douglas with you 13 is in seattle serving as co-moderator in tonight's event. >> moderator: our debate tonight was organized by the washington state coalition a group founded this year by seattle cityclub to increase access to nonpartisan positions. >> moderator: we invite our live audience here in our viewing audience to be part of this debate by following us and commenting on twitter. our hashtag tonight is the w a