we are never going to solve this problem by buying a few paperclips. the only way we are going to. [inaudible] those are the cost. rather than having the small debates over funding in small areas, with the debt of $20 trillion, it's not going to bring anything down. that's why i support a grand bargain. >> thanks for the question because i've always said budgets are more than numbers on a page. they are what sets the policies and priorities. the investments that i think are most important today are the

ones that help grow the middle class, making sure we have a strong education system, college affordability, investing in our infrastructure, making sure sure people have the capability to have a job that pays the more so we can grow our economy from the middle out. i was absolutely investing in education and research in helping our middle-class grow. i would pay for that by closing corporate loopholes that benefit the wealthiest americans and as corporations. i believe the trickle down theory doesn't work and if we help grow our economy by investing in middle class americans, that's how we can get a better budget that reflects the policies and ironies that are important for our country. >> we are going to move on. >> i've been very specific about where we need to make changes.

>> we need to check in on arm microsoft topics. [inaudible] you can still vote on the subject matter that we will be discussing in the debate. we now go to our next question from a student. >> hillary clinton has proposed a plan for students with families making $85000 or less to go to an in-state university without paying tuition. her plan would avoid approval. do support that plan?

if not, how to address the affordability? >> thank you for asking that question. it's when i get from young people tell me they don't plan to go to college and eighth-grade because they think they can't afford it. i talked to students who tell me too often they are working two, three, four and even five jobs to pay for college education, taking a very long time for them to complete college and then they have a student loan and they say to me, i'm not able to buy a car or home because i'm paying back my student loan. i am excited that we are having a conversation in our country today about how we can make college more affordable for people. i want everyone who wants the opportunity to go to college. our economies need to get skills

i'm very interested in the proposal out there and looking at how i can make that work. i think it's a great conversation to have. the thing that i think is important is as we put this together, i hope we can get bipartisan support, we need to make sure we have accountability so we know students are going to go to school and getting good grades and they are achieving what we need them to do which is to get a good grade and get a job and contribute back. i think it's a good conversation to have and i'm proud that the democrats are putting that forward and look forward to working with hillary and others in a bipartisan way to assure young people in this country don't give up when you are in eighth grade. keep working when you are in college. >> thank you. >> i have a daughter who is a junior at washington state university. nothing would make me happier than free college.

it would be great. there are things we can do to reduce the burden of student debt such as allowing those to refinance their student loan. you can do that with your car loan and home loan and you should be able to do that. one of the worst things i have seen is politicians making promises for free. we are $20 trillion in in debt. with hillary clinton is proposing is the higher taxes on the rich to pay for making college free. we can do that i think we do need to ask the wealthiest americans to stabilize social security, but afford to raise taxes, we need to use it to pay down the debt, not for more spending. i would love it if the federal government could make everything free for everyone. that's why we are $20 trillion in debt. politicians keep publishing things and promising things and they raise taxes to pay for their promises instead of using revenue to bring down the debt.

the real answer to college affordability is in state legislatures across the country. they have reduced their support for higher education and that's why state tuition has been going up. here we have gone the other direction and they've actually lowered college tuition. the answer to this is not washington d.c. on a broader point, that's why the federal government is $20 trillion in debt. that's why they keep promising everyone free stuff. we can afford it anymore. >> is time to check our final results. national politics wins with 31% followed by healthcare which is 28%. our next question goes to chris vance in that question is, you said months ago you would not vote for donald trump for president. you have taken some grief from your fellow republicans. what you say to those republicans about how you fit today into the grand old party.

>> we've been living that issue, this is a very difficult time to be republican. i haven't changed. i am a ronald reagan, and evans, jennifer dunn republican. i believe in limited government and bringing down the debt and securing our national security and free enterprise. i just couldn't support mr. trump for two reasons. he has demonstrated over and over again that he's not really fit to be president, and on the most basic issues that most republicans have always supported, such as free trade, such as entitlement reform, he hasn't taken positions that traditionally republicans have taken. i've made it clear i don't support mr. trump read what's interesting is senator murray's a wholehearted support of hillary clinton. i've supported my party over and over again and i've yet to hear senator murray criticize a

democrat for anything. we need, i believe we need people who are going to be independent voices, not rubberstamps to their party leadership for the presidential nominee. i intend to go to the senate as a free agent. the last thing we need is hillary clinton to give her up blank check rubberstamp congress. i think that's a major concern in a major difference between the two of us. >> you do support hillary clinton for president in a cnn poll earlier this summer, 60% of respondents said honest and trustworthy are not characteristics that apply to hillary clinton. how do you explain to washington voters, including those who supported bernie sanders, your support of hillary clinton. >> i'm very proud to support hillary for president and here's why. i've had the opportunity to work with her when she was in the white house in the '90s, when she worked extremely hard to make sure we passed a program

them each all of our young kids had health insurance. i know where her heart is. i watched and worked with her as she was secretary of state and lifted up women around the globe i know that today she understands middle-class families. she knows that too many people today have workplace issues that make it impossible for them to make their economic potential so she is talking about workplace policies like paid family leave and making sure that you get paid. i am proud to support her. i'm also proud, as the grandmother of two young girls to know they will have a woman as president of this country.

>> here's our healthcare question. diana from bellevue asked, untreated untreated hearing losses associated with social isolation, depression and greater risk of dementia as well as reduced quality of life. medicaid no longer covers hearing aids. would you sponsor or cosponsor legislation to restore it? >> the question is medicaid does not cover hearing aids and she wants it covered. i certainly understand your concern. hearing is a critical part of learning. it's a critical part of participating in society and i would love to talk to her about how we could do that. as we rightly know, medicaid is a healthcare program that is impacted by cost and we have to adjust as we look at how we do that. i do know this, healthcare is a critical issue for so many people in our country. we have to make sure that our federal policies, programs like medicaid and medicare are there for people so they have the support they need. >> yes, absolutely. medicaid medicaid needs to cover

hearing aids, they need to raise the medicaid reimbursement rate. it bothers me when there's a sign saying we don't take medicaid patients. this has to be part of a comprehensive solution. one of the worst things that happens in congress right now is politicians respond to a need and they increase funding for a program and they don't pay for it or they cut tax and they don't pay for it and it drives up the debt. this is why i am such a strong supporter of a simpson bowl style solution to our problems. this is appointed by president obama to come up with a solution to bring down our debt and stabilize programs like social security, medicare and medicaid. it's point to involve some increases in revenue which republicans need to accept. it will involve some changes to our entitlement programs which democrats need to accept. all of these things have to be done together, not not piecemeal because when we do them bit by bit, to when we don't pay for,

that's how you end up driving up the debt. it is often not just a number. the debt is one of the main reasons why our economy is not growing. the congressional budget office tells us that if our debt was in a downward path, we would have 5% more economic growth. more people would find more good jobs. people are hurting out there. the gap between rich and poor is lost because our economy just isn't growing. we had less than 3% growth at one of the main reasons why is because our debt is crushing the life out of our economy. these things all have to be done together in one grand bargain. right now, this generation of politicians in washington d.c. has demonstrated they don't have the brains or the guts to get it done. >> thank you, the better brings to an end are microsoft pulled segment of our debate. thank you to all who participated in the auditorium and across the state of washington. now back to my colleague. >> we talk about form policy now and this goes to chris vance

first. under what circumstances would you vote to authorize the use of force and american in for intervention in the ongoing civil war and would you commit more ground forces than we have now? >> that's a great question. i would love to have more than a minute 30 to answer this. any question involved in military force reform policy to me goes back to the need to prevent war. we need to prevent a major war. i have a 24-year-old son. i understand the fears people have about getting the united states involved in major confrontations. the way to avoid that is be consistent and firm and strong in our commitments. syria is unbelievably complicated. you have the situation with isis, and you have the ongoing civil war in syria between sunni and shiite and you have the problem with the kurds were in conflict with the turks. it's extremely located. we need to be focused first on job one which is destroying isis on the ground. isis is the country that is a threat to many areas in the

middle east. they are launching terrorist attacks across the country. they are the ones killing americans here in the united states. i'm glad that we are putting pressure on mosul, we need to go further and we need to take back a rock in syria. we need to do whatever is necessary to destroy aces. if that involves a few more ground troops, than that's what's necessary, but our first job has to be to destroy aces. dead, i think we need to use diplomacy to try to settle the syrian civil war. that's what's causing the refugee crisis which is the syrian civil war. it might even involve getting the un involved in further partitioning that part of the world. maybe as we did in the balkans, we need to redraw some borders to separate sunni and shiite. that's when he requires a major leadership, but we cannot, unfortunately we cannot rule out the use of american ground forces to accomplish these missions. >> i heard a few more ground

troops possibly. same question to you, under what circumstances would you vote to authorize the use of force in the syrian civil war and would you commit more ground forces that we have now. >> thank you. that's a really important question because one of the most important priorities we have is to make sure that we protect america and america's citizens. we do have to fight terrorism, but terrorism terrorism is not a country. it is across the globe and we need to fight terrorists wherever they exist. the situation in syria is extremely complex. i know that the thing we should not be doing right now is putting american troops at risk in a civil war in syria. we do need to fight terrorism and we need to take terrorists out where they exist by using our airstrikes to take out their leaders and their financial resources. we need to make sure we are working in global partnership to

go after terrorists wherever they are. we need to do that now in modal. mosul. that's the right thing to do. we also have to secure this country as well. we know that lone wolves are actually more likely here in the united states. we have seen that in san bernardino and in paris and that means we have to make sure we are interrupting their social media that they are using to recruit terrorists and fight that back on social media networks which we are now doing. we also need to make sure that here at we are protecting our own community with our police if we have a terrorist attack here, we have the resources to go for it. finally, i just have to say this, at the very least we should be doing is saying that if you are on a terrorist watchlist you cannot purchase a gun and i'm deeply frustrated that the senate refused to pass

that bill very long ago. >> we now have another question from melissa at the tacoma news tribune. >> senator murray, over the the last decade, federal education policy shifted dramatically from no child left behind to the every student succeeds at granting more power to the states. you are one of the chief architects of the new law. what's the proper relationship between federal and state jurisdiction when it comes to setting standards and regulating our nation's school and how does the new law ensure that the quality of a student's education doesn't vary depending on the state in which they live. >> that's a really important question because we live in a country that assures every child, no matter where they are or where they grew up gets a good education. the federal role is to make sure that there is a floor and all students are getting access to education. our federal education policy has to assure that all students have an opportunity and actually the federal education law is actually a civil rights law

which is light was first passed because in too many states and too many places, students of color, students of lower income were not getting the same access we set the floor and we separate environments. the set behind act was too restrictive and parents and teachers were telling us that the over restriction with all the testing was creating too much pressure in their classroom. we have to make sure that we are accountable with our federal education dollars. when you get that diploma, it has has to mean something. we also have to assure that students who come here from other states or students that go to other states enter school with the same kind of skill. our new law keeps the accountability but has that directive from state and local community so they decide what they can do if they are not reaching those accountable roles rather than having the federal government say if you don't meet these requirements, here's a one-size-fits-all fix, we have

changed it so states themselves can develop what they are responses if students aren't achieving what we want them to be doing. >> you have called for an end to the federal government, forcing schools to adopt certain standards and meet federal testing requirements or face loss of funding. education annual report finds that southern and western states perform worse than schools and other parts of the country. should geography really determine the fate of our children and the quality of their education? >> of course not. let me first say this, i'm a huge supporter of public education. my kids went to public schools, i went to public schools. tomorrow morning my wife will be at an elementary school in auburn where she is a. educator working with autistic kids and kids with down syndrome. i've served on the house education committee. i'm one of the senior advisers. i've been involved in education policy for a very long time. the federal government should help provide some funding to our local schools.

obviously we should make sure that no one civil rights are violated. the federal government has gone far beyond that. we have allowed congress to become the great school board on the potomac. there has literally been cases where people and parents have gone into school board meeting saying why do we have to use this textbook. they say because the federal government says so or will lose our funding. the new law that they help pass is better than the old law but it's still goes far too far in my opinion in terms of interfering with local decisions. schools should be governed by states and school districts. not by the federal government. we should not be looking over their shoulder requiring them to adopt certain standards and under the law, the federal government is reviewing the testing and threatening to withhold federal funds. i don't know why we don't trust state legislators once they get back to washington d.c.

i think the federal government should help provide funding but then get the heck out of the way. our schools should be governed locally. >> picking the next supreme court justice will be one of the most important jobs. it looks like the senate has to confirm their pick. >> you support the delay in hearing the nomination for the supreme court vacancy and you have a litmus test for the next supreme court justice. if you do, what is it? >> i was very disappointed to hear the debate between the candidates regarding supreme court justices. they talk about it as if they are openly partisan. we have liberal and conservative. it's not supposed to be that way. our judges are supposed to be nonpartisan and they're supposed to interpret the constitution as they see it. i think it has become far too partisan.

no, i don't have a litmus test. i look at federal judicial nominations for the supreme court and whether or not they're qualified and good solid people, not over any sort of ideological litmus test. i think that's dangerous to our form of government. i issued a statement today that justice scalia passed away calling on the republican leadership to work with president obama to jointly come up with a nominee who could be confirmed by the senate. that didn't happen and in typical washington d.c. fashion, they spent the last several months issuing dueling press releases. i think it's wrong. it's gone on for years and both parties do it. when president bush nominated alito, some democrats tried to filibuster that nomination. others said no, we shouldn't be

filibustering. both parties have been blocking traditional nominations and it's wrong. i will never support anything other than speedy confirmation hearings and an up and down vote on the senate floor. >> if republicans still control the senate after the election, as a key senate leader what would you do to get a clinton nomination confirm. if you want to address the filibustering of alito, go ahead. >> i'm happy to do that. let me say, our supreme court justices are critical to every person in our country and every business. they make decisions about women's right to choose across the spectrum. my vote must reflect the values and issues that my constituents care about. every nominee that has come before me i have evaluated them on their life experiences, have

they been out and about in our communities and seen what's going on, what is their life experience? what is their judicial philosophy and certainly whether or not they reflect the values that me and my state can consider to be important. that is exactly what i did with justice alito. when he came before us, unlike mayor garland, i had brought him in my office and talk to him and listen to him. he had a hearing and i listen to every word that was said and i made a judgment that he was not someone that i could support. is not on the court. i will tell you this, what really disturbed me is that mayor garland didn't get the same. heating get meetings with republican senators, heating get a hearing, heating get any kind of ability to make his case to me or any other senator and i wanted to write for my state to have a vote in that. i hope that when this election is passed, the republicans will step back from holding up this

nominee and we can move forward. we need a full-court. >> now back to melissa with the news tribune. >> for senator murray, alexander from spokane ask, senator, senator murray, you sit on armed services committee. you and fellow democrats have tried and tried again to past budgets but increase funding for the administration. how do you deal with your republican counterpart, especially in the house who continually vote down these budgets while claiming. [inaudible] - i think you talking about the veterans committee that i said on. not the armed services. the veterans committee covers that. first of all, one of my high priorities, as the daughter of a world war ii veteran and the first woman ever to ask to be on the senate community and to be there even though i voted against the war in iraq, i made it clear that if my country does send our men and women to fight for us i will be there to fight for them.

i stood up when no one else would and said we are not providing the support we need for our men and women were coming home from the war in iraq and in afghanistan. to make sure that we were there for them with more than just a promise, that we were there to make sure the services that they earned they got, to do it in a timely manner and we are not there yet. we still have work to do. we still have two keep going. i have gone further than that to make sure that our men and women who serve us, that they get the skills and the ability to get a job when they come home so we can make sure that the work that they've done is replicated. i call on every one of us as citizens and business owners people to make sure that we are doing what we can do to help make sure that the men and women that serve us get what they deserve and that includes fighting and budget committee

year in and year out to make sure we have the resources to care of those who have served us >> thank you. i will let alexander know what committee you serve on. >> a similar question, would you vote for increased funding for veterans administration, wire why or why not. >> we need to spend whatever is necessary to maintain our commitments to keep our commitments to america's veterans. again, everything, everything has to be done in the context of an overall budget agreement that will be directed toward bringing down our debt, stabilizing social security and medicare, reforming our taxes, and putting the debt on a downward path. when you talk to the federal budget, again, the big giant cost drivers are the big entitlement programs, social security and medicare and other healthcare programs so there is money available for the other programs in the context of big budget agreements and of course we have to do that. my dad was a world war ii veteran, taught in most major battles in europe and got a

veterans disability check for the rest of his life. as soon as i announce for the u.s. senate, my phone started ringing i started getting e-mails from veterans. it's an enormous issue here in washington state where we have so many military bases in so many retired veterans. a lot like the service they get from the va once they get in the system. the problem is getting in the system. literally hundreds of thousands of veterans have died waiting to get service from the va. congress needs to hold whichever administration it is, more accountable to better fix the administration and the va. i think we need to give more veterans more options to seek services outside the traditional va system if that's what they want to do. >> are you saying you wouldn't support more funding without additional support at the va. >> i didn't say that all. i get very nervous about politicians promising that i'm an increase funding for this and

that and not paying for and not being part of a comprehensive budget agreement. that's what we have to do. >> we have just a little bit of time left. i'm can give you one minute each for this question but i think you can handle it in a minute. what is the first website that you looked at or opened in the morning when you get up and what is the last one you look at at night. >> absolute, the three websites. >> in addition to the local news site, i look at all the websites that aggregate the news. i love real clear politics.com and the others that take all the various news stories together into one site where you can pick and choose what you need to read. the internet is a wonderful tool for finding the news online. that's where i go. i would love to be honest, the first thing i look at is all of your websites.

i look to see because i want to find out how my grand children are doing and my family so i look at what they are up to on facebook and other sites, but i do look at many of our state newspapers across the state in our media to find out what's going on so i can be aware. : >> >> i am watching my grandchildren brought in this world and i'd want to have them deal want for your

said they get a good education, go to college if they want with health care and mental-health care to name their dreams to be what they want to be. want to know their country is there for them as a was for me when i was growing up and my dad got sick and lost his job. the country was there to make sure he got his veterans pay and services. and gave me my ability to go to school with the skills she needed to go back to work to get a job to help also the kids. in my country was there to make sure i had grants and student loans to get its education to be here tonight after united states senator. :my grandchildren to know in this country we except our neighbors and all americans to treat them with dignity. i want them to know it is not okay to do mean anyone for what they look like gorby the fed, classroom or workplace.

i will continue to fight for you and those that you love to help them realize the american dream that no matter where you are or where you come from the color of your skin your country will be there for you. i will fight you every day as your united states senator. >> thinks microsoft and senator murray we have shown how debates should be conducted during this campaign. [laughter] again to the washington state debate coalition when you are fantastic but none of this would have happened about you. i hope the debate coalition grows and expands. we are coming to the end of what the most disappointing and divisive elections in history eye of very concerned that after all of

this the gridlock and dysfunction will continue eye and equally concerned about giving clinton a blank check rubberstamp congress. we need independent voices in washington d.c.. we can fix america's problems we cannot accept politics as usual and blind partisanship if year after year and decade after decade that will not change anything. if you want change '04 change. form i will work hard every day to change the culture in washington d.c. to republicans and democrats together. and independent voice the bond and never anybody's rubber stamp i am honored to have your vote. >> if you have not yet received your ballot in the mail expected by this

tuesday washington state voters have until halloween to register in person and don't forget to vote by november 8 for good gillespie postmarked or dropped in the approved a box by election day they close promptly at 8:00 p.m.. goodnight. please vote. [applause] >>

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state of iowa.th from winston-salem we haveversi. john dinan to start our conversation. thanks for giving a a short-time. tellus please see it like north carolina is a battleground state rex. >> there are several metrics you could make the case it was the most competitive state in 2008 and 2012 brought obama won by less than half of a percentage ron point that romney won by two percentage points 2012 see you could make a case said whether state laws that competitive with those elections. not surprising in 2016 is a continuation of looking at where they devote their resources of their times they have been devoting as much to visit north carolina's any of their state that is traditional

battleground ohio, florida and right up there if you want to note the battleground state that is a battleground. >> secretary clinton was there on sunday and will be back with michelle obama. >> right here. as they say other states said the ohio enforce a in a pennsylvania and virginia in recent years are looking at these regular visits by the candidates but 2016 is a regular event to go see one of the candidates or the family members or the vice president and that is continuing in the campaign. >> shows us the breakdown of 10 million residents from

2.seven registered as democrats 30 cows and libertarians, a 2 billion unaffiliated so talk about bad is that where the focus is for those who have not made a decision yet quite. >> it is unaffiliated no surprise but it is also to turn out the vote of republicans and democratsmewhere that voter turnout will be a high 50s so you have a lot of work to be done. as a number of other states. to one of those advantages is to vote but sometimes if he will sit people are in the and affiliated category are strongly republican nor democrat so they do get a lot of attention.

>> we have john dinan talking with us about battleground states party with north carolina today. a noc the line divided north u carolina residents and all others. start the s the professor we started the show with the map taking a look at the state of north carolina can you tell us what areas favor hillary clinton were donald trump? >> you have some key population centers. and then to come part of the western part of the state

wants but really the major population centers of those urban areas in north carolina and other states donald trump won key support but the battlegrounds and then to become a suburb outside of the main population centers. and apparel area goes to republican. >> but before that are the campaign spending a lot of times that you highlighted especially those up for grabs? >> would is interesting going to charlotte or saleng of more greensboro. but that also sees donald trump go to several areas.

he went to one town of population of 1,000 people.peop there were surrounding areas the that is very unusual. have o the that is like if he needs to stay competitive. but he really has to expand. >> as what was described as a red - - better blue s coax. >> isa neither one. in the presidential race is increasingly competitive.n we in nine presidential years but the turnout differential with those midterm elections or the 2010 midterm elections. but presidential year the

turnout makes north carolina increasingly very competitive. >> john dinan is joining us. home good boarding. go-ahead. >> my question is the republican party has sent a clear message to african-americans with the we don't want you to vote we hope you don't build make it difficult for you to vote. we have been through three yossi spending $9 million to suppress the vote. why does the republican party seem to put the party over the people bomb? professor >> this also to be the center of other legal battles.

to pass the omnibus reform law ended reduced the number of days from early voting down at 10 days and then the same day registration during the early voting power . calling negative .. the rather provisions as well but to be challenged in federal court the u.s. district court upheld the of what in even the appellate court they struck down each of those provisions that the u.s. supreme court for the emergency appeal and they were deadlocked four / four so all lolling the appellatetotl decision tuesday and so there is no voter identification requirement this election. there are a complement of 17 early voting days in the opportunity to register andd vote during the early voting not clear

it is unclear whether voter edification has much effect to see that has much of any fact.store the ability to register a to vote and vote on the same day. but the key point that is restored that would not have the unpleasant. >> the line from new jersey were up next.ey is >> now at the crossroads state that all of america is the battleground looking for survival for the independent nations. with a news blackout about hillary and transforming the tulane 20 in 50 percent of the stockpile. and russian exchange for

london to $30 million and to introduce donald trump but with the media blackout the same nonsense happened and then the information started to come out to transfer the technology and then monica lewinsky was all over the news. with the bigger crime of treason. >> any thoughts on the at quick.er >> it is unsurprising in the final weeks of the campaign many are focusing not what they can bring to the table but education policy and tax policy. here is some of that but we are in the polarized era

that people make their decision how to vote would. the what they perceive to be the negatives of the other. so you can see a number of charges and claims made about either candidate. that could be expected c because that is likely would a motivate in number of people to vote.stem. that is keeping with that tradition. >> so they mentioned the clinton foundation do most carolinian is follow the story line? do they care?it's brought seventh day will when it is t prominent that donald trump is bringing up those matters it is the matter say are salient from the trump rally today extent that it gets

prominent coverage that leaves voters see will here, at the trump rallies beyond uh trump campaign. >> the next call for residents. >> i would like to make some comments. eye and democrat but now i am not because of the fact this woman has stepped there in has lied she wants freehe trade and once to open the borders of the people of america especially the women how did they realize the orot what did they say? too many we will have anything there are too many people that

need the help i wish they would get educated in the next 15 days to realize what is going on. and it is a crying shame. end especially a crying shame we have her in office because you have for years of her voice to make the caller mentioned to issues of particular that have had residence at the trump campaign rallies and advertisements of the free trade issue and immigration issue. if you go to a donald trump speech in north carolina a very good chance he would be surprised if he did not mention free trade with his criticism of the bad trade deals within the first i've written minutes. that has resonance and prominence in does seem to

resonate. the immigration issue is what trump will bring up in not quite as prominently as free trade but there is the criticism we don't have border security we need more control on the border. those issues that you'd heartes, , in particular north carolina are the prominent that the caller would mention certainly the prominent features of the trump campaign. >> according to the department of labor the unemployment rate currently in the state how does that play out with people concerned about the economy and jobs quick. >> there is an interesting dynamic. carolina we have a republicanpu governor who just took office four years ago, a

governor mccrory running it was among the highest good now is near the national average and more healthy but also the different dynamic is what you expect for the incumbent governor seeking reelection of. but the trump campaign faces a different dynamic. they are not trying to knock off the power of the there'sis challenges to the economy are so the mayor inclined to emphasize the americans or the challenges to see some different messages depending if it is the presidential campaign hough.

>> john dinan joining us on this first day of looking at battleground states looking at north carolina. >> caller:, good morning.nt to w why did they close college campuses for voting and no more sunday voting days? >> the caller it is voting to the caller code reform act passed in 2013 it did make several changes. what they tried to make was the early voting . over several cycles they had 17 days but in these counties that includes sunday and other counties the we choose not to there was always

discussions where is the precinct for early voting on election day. that law was put in place went into effect 2014 for those elections but the current election is based on fourappellate court of the federal appeals those changes are not any fact anymore those full days of early voting in this case the county still has decisions to make. du have those early voting precincts? those rebates have continued softness in have continued to be a local decision so they may seize sunday some counties they may not. it is a testament as people come from other countries.xp the first thing they are surprised about isir

discretionary at the state level but also how much discretionary at the local level within a state. , many early voting precincts? that still rest up the local level. depending on what parts of cars carolina that you live. >> does this affect voting readability of of your state quick. >> certainly it was significant in the eastern part of this day as a result of hurricane matthew and number of people were displaced that dominate the attention of the people of the state actually we have several people having debates for the governor's race the first in the kennedy said was all prayers for the people displaced and affected those who have lost their lives to maturity maggio some of you may not

have to watch this debate you can only listen because you don't have cable to your tv set. but to dominate the attention there is some political effects as governor mccrory spent a lot of his attention in reaction to the hurricane. does someone who hasn't ability to act as the executive capacity so theyti saw him someone acting as an executive capacity.it with the political sector wewe have seen the last couple of weeks. >> was a virginia thanks for calling. for c >> caller: when people say that hillary is qualified and trump is not a deal haice she is qualified for is to fill her pocket books.

what she did in bed gauzy -- ben gauzy i cannot believe anybody would vote for her in then so did obama. it was put on tv and then to open the borders quick seconal understand that. like the bible says in-house divided cannot stand when you have people in here with such a radical item will fit this religion but they don'tbr bring it up and then they shoot the police every day you never heard of that until obama got in with hillary. so that started in arkansas. i think people are blinded.pr >> there is no doubt that we have said it before but it

is worth repeating that we have not had to candidates of the two major parties and such starkly high unfavorable ratings that is true of both the donald trump and hillary clinton some will go higher but compared with previous candidates that is the t situation. a lot of the people what effect does that have on the turnout to vote complex it probably is the case some people who don't turn out to vote they are turned off to say i cannot vote for eithere candidate as they have a tough time of it. the libertarian is on the ballot. the green party candidate is not on the ballot you can write to her in so people watching this ratings of the two major parties that pushes people to their candidates to is that pushed

them to libertarian? that is what we will bee watching for historic the third-party candidates if they will pull five percentage points out a few weeks we will be watching to see if that holds up in light of the dissatisfaction of the two major candidates how does that play halperin people go to coach? suspicious starkly to be a baptist make up with other growth rate religions or catholics certainly moving into the state with a significant inflow of migration but if you still look at the population and evangelicals it is still quite high as you would expect.

there is no doubt the nomination plays a role what we have seen we still have an understanding that they give their support to republican candidates candidates would given to the democratic candidatesir vott but and the reason years it has spent more split now we see less the divide among dominations but commitment to religious worship. if you could ask one question one of the leading questions will they go republican or democrat?you as so many times a week or a month the higher the number is the more likely they will vote. as much as anything ru catholic or jewish or protestant? that is a chief dividing line in north carolina and other states. >> north carolina go ahead.

>> caller: i know who said that such security. that was set up back in the depression and i know that wins set up for my part surgery. but the democratic party said they are taking care of us. but looking up the great depression eye looked at trump but you'll have to protect we have. >> the caller has rightly focused attention on the programs of the federal government of social security, medicare also talking about medicaid for

the low income people and yet for what is striking to me is fellow amount of attention they have gotten in the debate and as you saw the third presidential debate the candidates on these very issues but theyhe did not want to spend that much time talking about the issues so security programs sita will now enter a situation that you face challenges economically, medicare takes an increasing percentage. note of those things that are disappointing, for me that ranks right up there to devote more time and focus more attention county and makes her of these competing plans? you would not see attention given added trump campaign

nor clinton campaign. by yet no issues deserve more attention. >>. >> caller: can you hear me clacks so many things i want to talk about but when the things is social security. favor of blair d. thank you will get the money if he gives that to big business? that his reverie get the money is from taxes. goes to think about voting for somebody and then makes no sense.

to follow somebody to do what he can do. he looks and acts and talks like a dictator and he probably is a dictator if given the opportunity. >> the caller is focused on the tax plans of the two candidates. but it we could have benefited from more attention and to free ad at the time devoted to the issues in many cases the voters and analysts will wish there is even more attention. the trump tax plan hillary clinton's plan for tax reform, and i would expect

if you ask a number of voters how would you characterize the plan of trump traverses clinton? p it may be difficult babied the candidates have not amplified that but if there is one issue that is on the table almost certainly the next two or four years is a window of opportunity. democrats have of plan reflect - - it makes a significant difference that not much gets through v washington on as we move on tax reform so how would you use that policy window price index focusing on the battleground states with the

north carolina and go-ahead. >> caller: thanks for adding been that is not what voter i.d. does that protects legal voters and i think of that voter identification requirement in many states where we have voter identification and that seems to be just fine. but they said that these people that are against itcan't there isn't a way for everybody to have an identification i cannot figure out who would is but the law that was passed by the legislature made getting

the identification n is easy as anybody has ever done by going to various institutions. >> no doubt those issues are very contentious over the last four years passing the law that would impose the requirement apolitical debate but that being said it did not have a photo id our requirement to vote in that respect now they do have these requirement of some kind sometimes it beyond photo identification but as is the case it is out

of touch with its neighbors that would require voter i.d. of some kind at least for this election that will not be a requirement spanishve you have to set this up to say the governorship be defeated just by signing h.b. 2 visa. >> to guess on background that is much discussion this spring the city of of charlotte that there was transgendered rights provisions among others to give access to what course bonds with gender identity but the state legislature had a one day session to pass a law to return those

coordinates and then to sit as individuals will not be required to go to the bathroom to correspond with their gender not necessarily gender identity it is then a member of legal filings it is now tied at in court but politically speaking what do we know? as we increase businesses and the atlantic's coast conference as we with droll various championship eventsit's the last development from the n.c.a.a. to withdraw the championship event to kick

things into gear of those surveys recently do approve for disapprove disapproval was clearly a outpacing approval. so there is no surpriseic those democratic candidates are in the campaign ads that any of legislators that supported h.b. 2 and comes up with virtually any campaign ad but what is not yet clear how that is fair on the reelection bid and republicans now have supermajority control for gun down now with the presidential race but also for the governor's race. what is the effect? >> alabama a good morning.

>> caller: i have twost questions. we'll deal eagles be allowed to vote in north carolina? the number to, uh tee pp waiting in the wings that my and standing we can move frivolities areas that would put a lot of americans out of their jobs. >> with regards to voting in no with uh tee pee pee the trade issue that is no surprise it is a dominant feature of the trump campaign ads and rallies we have made bad trade deals in

the past and said don't make these mistakes in the future that trade issue is currently submitted to congress in the coming months but no surprise that trump has played on that.. is a classic issue revers are a few benefits that the country will benefit from this trade deal and he sped up the benefits to concentrate hard and pain the statistics show it is to save the communities and workers who were harmed as they lose their jobs. donald trump and is focusingna on that concentration of harm to make the case said the that is a tough argumentin to make a campaign to be

positively affected by this. >> north carolina next.ar >> caller: good morning. i find that the coverage of the press, our forefathers believed in order to remain a free country we did every press. unfortunately don't inform the people. it is people think nafta is just trade but what it actually calls for his goods and services is sand people. you never hear the third leg . i move to north carolina recently from new jersey. new jersey is absolutely overrun. t my family has been here

since the 1600's eye saw within 25 years new jersey state jersey, and go from an american state to enter national state. when you talk about the trade deals, how good is that for america with $28 trillion deficit just with mexico? >> there are issues that the caller brings up that is prominent in the trump campaign. issues. it is a whole set of issues about immigration in a changing population.pat buchanar these are not complete before in one as the nomination battle with national party politics but it donald trump has raised those issues to blood by

higher degree and perhaps of the different position. the question that can be raised with this the staying power particular with the trade issue? suppose trump loses his or wins? what happens? if he changes the republican party in ways that makes the standard free trade positionpard for republican candidates to embrace.on we will b and that is the we focus on. >> so talk about governor mccrory. so with that likelihood to be reelected also talk about richard burr as he faces a

challenge as well. >> naturally most of the attention it is just one of timothy states had competitive races battle the holding a governor's race but of och -- but highly competitive is north carolina. and the little bit more on the senate race. but the tune of term incumbent senator burr how facing a democratic challenger. mom the dozen other same degree of prominence it

isn't clear that race would be competitive hot hot hot hot -- but it is even more competitive home but it has '' money coming in from out of state as that drives the numbers but the governor's race we have governor mccrory facing attorney general challenger cooper as a democrat that has been highly competitive. we have seen there is a time for the early 1990's that they voted republican for president so north carolinian star very comfortable. those are the three races refocusing on presidential and senator and governor is

race. >> good morning. >> caller: good morning. i appreciate it to ask the professor about the ballot races. i think the latest poll shows that secretary clinton holds a slight lead over donald trump and the cooper holds a slight lead over governor mccrory. do you think if secretary clinton wins by a bigger margin than what dishroom now if more traction and comes to her kamel had more

pressure to the othermo democratic races quick. >> no doubt one of the central topic is looking at the presidential level that can boost the candidates onrs the same ticket. surely that expectation but north carolina teh's have a history of split ticket voting they're very comfortable to cast a vote for one party candidate. and then base day and vote

for an in-line as much as any of their state has a history of split ticketth voting that could be true and promptly is in place. >> what does our the votingti tell us about what could happen in north carolina and >> naturally starting this past week it continues until just before the election. they say what is the of racial breakdown or the of party breakdown of those who have shown up the first few days? and i'm hesitant to compare that with the party getting a boost or not. early voting is on par ever so slightly below and is

close enough that it is on par. the challenge is different parts of the state to havees different numbers of early voting hours or days so i am very hesitant to draw a comparison but what i would say is we have seen no big boost were no big drop suchfr take from what they have seen those early voting members. >> at wake forest university starting things off on the battleground states, the thinking for your time john dinan. >> good to be here.

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>> gave a week-long look at the battleground states and today we take a look at n north carolina and focusing specifically on the state we are joined by the executive director of the north carolina republican party thinks for joining us. if you look at the averagespolis on real clear politics page coming to the presidential race if shows clinton up by 2.five points how do feel about those numbers this close to election day? >> i think republicans arer closing strong in all of theon races. fe has been in full campaign mode for over one year and

with three major races with the presidential electors. >> if turnout is the issue what will the state do topa ensure turnout. >> >> we have an incredible ground operation from the rnc. we have not done over a $1 billion in north carolinain r with every part we have people scattering all over 100 counties republicans out of it to the polls to see things our way talking to voters on the telephone that continues through the close of the polls on election day >> but how does that compare to the donald trump effortspaigd

with his on the ground campaign their quest. >> pike cannot speak to the everybody else's state the more tima great relationship he has been in my office more times than not but we share office space for a long time. we worked very closely to get the vote out in we are totally insane trying to help their candidates in helping us with the rest of our candidates. the state party is certainly a taking a bigger role than h the ground operations. but it seems to be working well and we are comfortable with where we are. >> was specifically areas of the state are you focusingt on? not only donald trump but

senator burr can governor mccrory? >> would you like to know? [laughter]ow. and every vote counts the same every four quarters of the state the rural areas areas, the urban areas traditionally day have done in the rural areas and democrats tool better in the center city but i do think that is not any different now. >> you saw them go just barely to mulroney in 2012 produce seed that kind of the enthusiasm for donald trump quick. >> there is a lot of enthusiasm for donald trump to bring volunteers into our party that is a positive

thing. it is good to see new faces. but these elections are very close to everything you can to cleanout every pc gold voter but one thing i feel good about is to have tremendous work with the rnc on voter registration.the that has dropped since the first election we have been significantly to the tune that we have come up in voter registration about 150,000 voters since 2008 it is a is a ticket number to make a big difference with a close election. >> talk about the voterct identification vaughan what about the decision and what has the legal system decided quick. >> what coming out of the

fourth circuit is atrocious. it told north carolina citizens they don't have the same rates as indiana or georgia who have voter i.d.. they have not been treated fairly in this regard as the same as any other state to have a fair constitutional law. >> some of those decisions and the cometary. >> a thank you are right. it was commentary, not legal opinion. >> but i meant saying that it was racially motivated you don't agree with that greg. >> not tell-all and it is fascinating that the political actors with the

discriminatory intent that is almost unheard of. because the people intend to discriminate then they find no example with the african-american encoding is tepid registration is up. to believe that you actedg with ill intent ended is virtually unprecedented. and if we don't get reverse did other things. with those voter education provisions to be treated as the redheaded stepchild. not to have the same constitutional as with the

estates have. >> executive director for the republican party and taking your calls. at our first call from hickory north carolina. >> caller: good morning and thanks to a species -- c-span. going to let the previous caller had to say that was disingenuous what the appeals court ruled that the legislature was precisely used the data as it pertained to african-americans and was used in such a way that they precisely that they were

disenfranchised. most african-americans but i am independent most would be open to the republican party with some of the policies that they implement the same with h.b. 2 eye enough for it or against it to but if you look at it and how it impacts the residents of earth carolina. -- north carolina bulking how they vote the appeals court determined the data as far as registered voters actually targeted african-americans to disenfranchised them that is why they ruled that such. >> the court perform all types of the gold jujitsu and what that had less so

frustrated is the legislature requested and received hundreds of thousands of pieces of information on all kinds of things and you could argue they looked at how certainvo voting things of foot of mud negative effect certain groups of the voting rights act but but they don't tell you that north carolina added in the provision to play in a safe harbor in other words, if you cannot get in idd would give anyone for free if you cannot find a buyer cert leave your wallet a whole new just signed a paper in it you can vote with the hardship provision. is ironic that the courts have not allowed north carolina to go through at the same time the justice department dealing with the state of texas with the

identical lot to go through for this election cycle. north carolina continues to of the most liberalized voting laws 17 days of devoting, you cannot function in this society without some sort of identification if you don't have one then it is their. responsibility to help you get one daniel p. get the documents in a dedication for free on our program will help you take it to get one but this was a political decision. >> good morning. >> caller: good morning. to sayi i will be voting for missile and the clinton because she is the best of two evils. would donald trump has said what he said about women tells me the type of man that he is than the republicans gerrymandering of the districts in north

carolina and governor mccrory crush the film industry in wilmington north carolina and now is a texaste style government the way texas has said ryan. >> how did the governor do anything to the filmy? industry? the image he crushed it in wilmington. >> he stopped giving them money didn't the film industry do that on its own. >> let him finish his thought. >> he took the money to fight h.b. 2 if not the

country and now highest taxes the governor has turned that around. now we have a much flat state income-tax and we now have the fastest growing economy from gdp that is why he will be returning to the governor's mansion. >> go-ahead. >> caller: i have a comment and a question. for every petty voting for

jill stifled the day after the election and you try to get the signatures on theer ballot to have a legitimate my queparty. those that receive more in tax subsidies contribute more and wondered if north carolina is one of those? of the efficiency of the state? >> i don't believe that is correct but i do say that north carolina governor in the legislature have a real regard for all tax dollars and realize what the federal taxpayers are also state taxpayers to make sure that money is not wasted no matter who's coffer it is aton the time. the caller mentioned the green party ticket this stein.

she has had about of pneumonia i know how she isna managing so i do hope she is doing better from charlotte go wellheads. >> caller: i would just like to say have been working the poll's sample stations. there are not enough machines their hidy overcrowded -- overcrowded their standing in line at least two and a half hours to vote. that is a suppression if you ask me i have concerns to election officials into the directors everybody seems to say that we only have 10 s reen not all of them. but the reason not to have the rest of them is just

because of the cutbacks from governor mccrory. i listened to your show all morning watching these ladies call pretending to be christian but that they go for donald tried on know-how that happens.about mcy. i have a daughter food teaches in the public schools who was in eighth year teacher but when governor mccrory said he gave a race to the teacherss he gave it to the first negative second year because we lost so many. >> quantity of their governor do for your daughter? any raises over four years? >> but if i may, governor mccrory is the one who claimed xx made the point.d

>> want 2.0 it is a fact governor mccrory had given more and teacher raises than any governor in all 50 states than 3-1/2 years in office. that is a fact. but to bring uninteresting issue of early voting, north carolina has 17 days early voting some say whether that is too long but, what he have done is made everybody think they have to wait in line on election day when we have hundreds of precincts open if you go to the early voting sites especially the first 10 weeks -- last weekend the wines are very long. during the week it is not that long if you did vote by mail that anybody has the right to do there is no line at all.wa but you have to decide if they will continue to have a traditional election day are

not the state cannot afford to keep every voting site to open it is extremely expensive and inefficient. we already have very liberalized early votingea laws i am for that that you will never have referring to the county where they have a early voting sites without having hundreds of precincts on election day. the state can't afford that. >>, a wide florida. >> caller: can you hear me ? what is the feel of thent republicans and democrats on the sharia law with the muslims coming into this country? they want to be under sharia

law which is totally against. women and homosexuals. in the , or anywhere in the united states what about the practice of sharia law to get a foothold in america quakes nobly as answer that question. >> the legislature specifically banned the practice people who come to the state of north carolina in a matter their religionirir or gender able expected to follow the laws of north carolina without regard to anything else.north caro north carolina is a very lotrg you understate we have a population and retired military we expect people to behave accordingly. >> talk a little bit aboutabout the passage of h.b. 2 on this electoral cycle i have

the bit to from tim kane and what he had to say. >> been allotted things affect lot of people how they vote that piece of legislation has stirred up a lot of fashionable sides it is my belief they didn't have much of an issue because the governor has done so well with the economy going back to work or unemployment that they wanted to create an issue and could do so that isee unfortunate. >> would you have to say about it then we will get your response.e. >> when this city of charlotte passes an ordinance to protect from discrimination with eligibility date decided they wanted to crack downcr even though the city council and the mayor were doing what the voters elected and

then h.b. 2 will become a national cause that has brought the wrong kind of attention and to north carolina because you were not a place where bigotry is o.k. those are progressivevees values and that drives a lote of us. >> your thoughts? >> he should clean up his own backyard we are slapping virginia solely with the job creation to get the economy moving. he is playing partisan politics but here's the message republicans we're going to sent they would not put young girls in the same bathroom as grown men. they will do what.not going to not going to do it. if tim kane was to do that in virginia then he can go back up to the commonwealth

we will not do that here. we will do what is required t and necessary for the safety and security. >> has that been an impactct from the business is at issue here from the n.c.a.a.? >> though long-term effect from u.s. supreme court has to figure things out. if you are a private business with a single gender restroom the same kind we have had sensed sinc planning was invented thenha this city could prelude in jail to put you behind bars. . .faci

facilitating that in any way even if by accident so we are not going to do that in north carolina. >> host: our guest is dallas woodhouse. terry from canton north carolina you are up next. >> caller: good morning mr. woodhouse. i just want to let everybody know hillary clinton could look into the mirror and the reflection would be jeb bush. jeb's father was the architect of nafta. hillary's husband signed it into law and the day they signed it into law are factors in our

furniture factories in western north carolina last. today we have two candidates. one candidate says he wants to bring jobs back to this country. the other candidate hillary, says those jobs are gone and never to come back. we as consumers have to be complacent. it has a sticker on it that says made in china.t says m now for all the benedict birdie fans out there he sold out to the machine. >> host: thanks. we will let our guest respond. >> guest: certainly there's a lot of conversation about jobs in north carolina. pat mccrory and the republicans have a done a good job of bringing some of them back and they do think we havek to rebalance art trade deals upke mr. trump has talked about. >> host: from greensboro

julia's up next. hi julie, how are you? >> caller: good morning. dallas i heard you say one time that you just wanted to have one polling place in charlotte.e as big as charlotte is you just wanted one polling place open. you know what, mccrory is as basketful of deplorables. just go now come on, i wouldn't say that about you. w >> caller: you said you want one polling place open. >> guest: i don't believe i said i want it. i believe i said that is what the law requires. a d there's a difference in saying what i i wanted and what the i wanted them with a lot of requires but here's the bottom line on early voting. t t north carolina under republican

boards of election have provided more early voting hours, more early voting opportunities across the state in the state is ever done. republicans are now in charge of mea passmore early voting hourss and the democrats ever did, period. >> host: talk a little bit about the senatorial race because i want to get this in there before we let this go. where do you think he is on winning re-election and what challenges does he face? desk of the biggest challenge he faces are all kinds of liberal special-interest money pouring into the state but this was eyes going be a close race. i think he will pull it out by two or three points. these days is a lands north carolina politics wouldli say it's a landslide. he has a very long record in the legislature and this time as attorney for the american civil liberties union which reflects some values and some interest i that i do not think match well with the people of north

carolina including being very soft on crime, not collecting dna versus accused felons being against the original creation of child sex offender registry. i think that even for a state that has certainly got a very moderate streak to it i think you will find he is too liberal for the state of north carolina. >> host: would you expect expect the turnout to be this year compared to the previous cycle? >> guest: we expect turnout to be really healthy and really good.te it may not quite match 2008 but it's probably in the 2012 range. it will be a good strong turnout. >> host: how much should you get in the 2012 turnout? >> guest: i would have to look back at it. the a fairly high percentage. i think we were maybe in the

70s. back i would have to look back at it but we certainly are going to have -- we had 75% of people voting in wade county where i am. we will have a good strong turnout. the thing is most of the presidential years people turn out. its it's off year elections where their wild swings.: >> host: dayton ohio on our line for others. leonard, good morning. >> caller: good morning,gu fellas. mr. woodhouse tell the viewers what is the welfare state. lincn after lincoln won the war all the slave states became welfare states. mississippi used to send a dam to washington. how do north carolina's said that my next question to you, black people, the only people ik america that don't have a real

birth certificate a cause all their heritage was taken away from them. i'll listen to your answer. please tell the people in north carolina the welfare state how much -- >> guest: i don't know where the caller is going there.u want in north carolina if you want to get voter i.d.s and we think it's the compassionate thing ton do. you help people get an i.d. so they can function in society, so they can go to the doctor and do other things. we will help you find a per certificate or get the necessary documents free of charge.re youh i assure you north carolinians play plenty of -- pay plenty of federal taxes. >> host: marie is up next in harrisburg, pennsylvania.ha our line for all others. >> caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call but

i am for donald trump because hillary clinton just cannot tell us the truth. everybody knows that she doesn't tell the truth and i don't know why democrats either don't recognize it or they overlook it, deny it and let her get by with the things that she has done better so corrupt. she has corrupted the fbi. she has corrupted the attorneys general's office. there is no law anymore. there isn't any because they don't believe in it.t everything is for hillary clinton. she is just going to take us down all the rest of the way. one thing that really scares me is that she wants open borders and i just heard this morning on another station that one family had taken and what they thought was a 15-year-old refugee. they found out he was a jihadist and threatened to kill the family.at

that's how they found out. now where's all that vetting that hillary thinks that we are going to do? a it scares me to death because i heard her say in a speech that she was actually going to raise taxes on the middle class. people sat there in class for her and i just hope near the carolina has the good sense to come through like they used to do. >> host: thanks. >> guest: we are counting on north carolina. of course we respect theirgh. people like ms. clinton and the other folks. we like to have a respectful dialogue here. i will say one of the big issues in this campaign in north carolina nationally is just the complete collapse of law and order. people coming across the borders , people not telling the truth to the fbi, people -- andd

most of us know we would be answering to an fbi agent if we did that. i think it was a driving factor. one of the things that is really lifted this is the sense that the system does not treat people the same who are wrapped up in the political culture and those are two things. >> host: mr. woodhouse the front page of the charlotte observer this morning shows a picture secretary went in speaking at unc. the headline says clinton pushes for student voter rally. with the strategy for their public and party in the state reaching out to students not only for donald trump but also down ballot races? >> guest: we have a very active campus outreach program. we have lots of young people to work on our staff that work with us and the republican national

committee. a we have our republican leadership initiative that's going out and training young folks. we have traditionally been rife for democrats and that's not going to change. we hope that i grew up in little little -- get a little older they will become republicans. but we are fighting for every vote in liberal counties, conservative counties in the suburbs because we have spent all these races to be -- by a few thousand votes. >> host: because if they college research areas in the state who do those areas benefit primarily? >> guest: while the republicans will capture about 70 of carolina's 100 counties. democrats will probably wind 30, mostly focused on the heavily urban areas of mecklenburg

county, guilford county and some of our far northeastern counties that are friendly to democrats. we just have to see how the rural versus urban vote comes out. how many ticket splitters we have, certainly there will be people who vote for mrs. clinton and for ms. mr. mccrory and there will be people voting for mr. trump. there will can be all kinds of combinations. we'll have to see how some of the strategic voting works out as well. >> host: wax on north carolina's worst divas. good morning.ing. call good morning.nted to just a couple of comments and i'd like to ask a question. number one do you really want to know what teachers make a north carolina?

there is a north carolina's teachers salary schedule.iddle i never once i kid take a showes in middle school, not once did i see a kid take a shower. north carolina university considered a valid voter i.d.. >> guest: thank you for that question. first of all it's a moot point right now because there's no voter i.d. in this election. student i.d.s was very contentious because it did not prove residency. you have to be a resident to vote where you are and there was absolutely no consistent standard from college to college college whether it be private universities or public universities. so student i.d.s were not in the original legislation. origia

we will have to see if that changes in future years but of course there were multiple ways that college students were able to get ahold of ballot i.d. forms. >> host: next up we will hear from harold and he spends north carolina. harold, good morning. >> caller: i wanted to ask the gentleman if he thinks there's a slim possibility that in america's history there has ever been a presidential race where both candidates were disliked to such a degree and i would like to have a follow-up after his answer. >> guest: since we are north carolina i will bring up the presidential election of 1824. jackson felt like that election was stolen from him by the t speaker of the house, henrik lay and a flop that out for four

years until jackson came back four years later. i don't think anybody was very popular after that election. thus one that comes to mind. >> host: harold, your follow-up? >> guest: my follow-up is what is the thing about the federal lawsuits filed in the federalwss court against the -- on state-sponsored terrorism? >> guest: i have no knowledge about that. not america. >> host: dallas woodhouse can donald trump when the resident resident -- presidency without winning north carolina?th >> guest: i don't know. donald trump is going to win north carolina. b we are going to win and returnwe america's best governor pat mccrory to the governor's's mansion return a great member,r, chairman of the senate committee richard. burr: back to the senate. north carolina is going to stay red.ybe no it may not be. by a lot but it will be. by enough. >> host: columbus, geoia