impeachment, the lying, the whole thing. we are going to keep, make the same mistakes if you keep doing that and we are going to continue to hear the same old excuses. these career politicians keep telling us that things can change, that we can't find new solutions. that's basically what they tell us. i have a message for them, the future belongs to the dreamers, not the cynics or the critics. i'm asking all americans to join me in dreaming big and bold things were out future. i will fight for every american of every background in every stretch of this nation. i'm going to fight to liberate our citizens from violence and poverty and crime and fear and i'm going to fight for the inner

cities and for the african-american community and the way they are forced to live in the inner cities with no jobs , no education and no safety. i'm going to fight for every person in this country who believes government should serve the people, not the donors and not the special interest. i'm going to fight to bring us all together as americans. just imagine what our country could accomplish if we started working together again as one people under one god, saluting one american flag. [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] >> it's right, once again we will have a government of, by and for the people.

you got to get out and vote. it's going to be something special. and i tell you this and i tell others this sometimes covered this is amazing group of people, the spear, the energy, the genius, but you will say that this will be one of the great and most important meetings of your life, but most importantly you'll say this vote will be the most important vote is ever cast [cheers and applause] >> because our country doesn't win anymore. we don't win with the trade. we don't win with our great military. we don't allow them to win. we don't win with isis. the world is laughing at us. we don't win at the borders. we don't win with taking care of our veterans. we do when with anything. we don't win anymore. we will start winning again like

you've never seen before. [cheers and applause] >> i kiddingly say that one of our great to congressman who are here someplace-- where are those great guys? they are here. they will be coming to see me at the white house and they will say mr. president, mr. president, sir, mr. president, the people of ohio, they can't take it anymore, sir. you are winning too much. you knocked out isis. there are too many jobs in ohio. too many companies are pouring in. we have a little traffic-- traffic would not be a bad thing; right? every time you see traffic remember it's not such a bad thing. mr. president, you are winning too much please, please stop what is so much.

i will say listen, congress, we are going to continue to win. we are going to win like never before. we are going to make our country wealthy again. we are going to make america stronger. we-- we will make americans safe again and we will make america great again. thank you very much. thank you, everyone. make sure you go out and about. god bless you. god bless you. ♪ ♪ ♪

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♪ >> good evening. this election voters will make a lot of important decisions and that's why wjz-tv is broadcasting a series of specials so you can hear directly from the candidates. tonight, we present candidates running to represent maryland in the united states senate. now, we take you to the university of baltimore and wjz-tv the carter moderated this debate. >> good evening and think-- tank for joining us to-- thanks for joining us. let's think the candidates for being here this evening. all the candidates who qualified for the ballots and pulling at 15% or greater were invited to participate. candidates are state delhi-- they'll get and congressman chris hollen. questions will be posed by our panel andrew green, editorial

page editor from the baltimore sun. and cotton, directed the shaper set up our public policy at the university of baltimore and myself, vic carter wjz-tv took the recipient of the property's statement was coin toss. moderator can repeat the questions for the candidate if needed. candidates may not interrupt one another. time limits for each question is 90 seconds on the timekeepers will warn within 30 seconds left. one minute will be allowed for rebuttal, but the moderator will have the discretion to drop were bottles for time later in the debate. each candidate will also be given one minute for closing statements. to opening statements in first chris hollen. >> it's great to be here and thanks to everyone for watching her during my time as public service i've listened to maryland families and work with them to deliver results for our community and for our state.

that's why i teamed up with our ptas to win historic investments in maryland to schools and why work with our veterans to support our wounded warriors at walter reed and to prohibit oil drilling. i am proud to have led the fight to protect promise of social security and medicare, so i know when to fight and i also know when to find common ground because we can allow division washington to block all progress for maryland families. we can't allow the poisonous message of donald trump to tears apart. we have got to work together. senator mikulski has been a great senator and i'm proud to have her support unlike the senator senator on focused on getting things done or marylanders. thank you for listening. >> now, kathy szeliga. >> i'm kathy szeliga and i'm running to being maryland's next united states senator. you see, washington is broken and somewhere along the line government has stopped working

for us. year after year politicians make election-year promises yet they failed to deliver on most of them. my opponent has been in washington for 14 years and over that time the debt has more than tripled, raising to almost $20 trillion. health-care expenses are crippling our families and we watch obamacare in this healthcare exchange collapsed-- class before our eyes. he supported 800 billion-dollar tax baylor-- bailout of wall street and supported the iran deal which makes america less safe and serbia's real. now, my opponent wants to be promoted to the senate. i'm a wife, mother, grandmother and small business owner and i know what it means to sign the front of a paycheck and i know it means to balance a budget. i'm an independent voice that once you washington and fight

for you-- >> i'm sorry, your time is up. let's move to our questions and we begin with and. >> according to polls more americans have unfavorable impressions than favorable ones of both hillary clinton and donald trump. to the any misgivings about your party's nominee? >> i have proven to be an independent voice and have called my party's nominee out of many occasions, just as i called out hillary clinton on many occasions. this is proof in the pudding. you know, my opponent has failed to call out his nominee on her many misgivings. calling americans deplorable, her e-mail scandal, the clinton foundation, i would like to know if he would like her to close the clinton foundation up. she has said it's okay to have different positions in private that in public, so if you are looking for a us senator that's

going to be an independent voice that will call balls and strikes on both sides of the aisle and you want to me-- vote for me kathy szeliga as your next us senator. >> in and secretary clinton, we have one of the most prepared, most qualified candidates ever to be president of the us commander-in-chief. in donald trump we have one of the least qualified at least prepared people. i have not agreed with secretary clinton on everything and i have a poster decision to support the war in iraq. i poster decision on e-mails. where she makes mistakes she has apologized. donald trump has run a campaign trying to pit americans against one another based on race and religion and ethnicity and gender and it's clear from the things he said about gold star families and our military that he is unfit to be our commander-in-chief. he doesn't know how to apologize when he makes outrageous comments and it would be

dangerous for us to have him as commander-in-chief. now, delegate kathy szeliga has endorsed donald trump. in fact, when macy's department store decided to discontinue a product line of trump clothing because of outrageous statements calling mexican-american immigrants rapists delegate kathy szeliga did not call on donald trump to stop insulting people. she went after macy's and publicly cut a per macy's credit car. i think we need to stand up to the outrages divisive rhetoric of donald trump and project support hillary clinton and i think donald trump would be a disaster. >> i like to read that. >> yes. >> there you go again, congressman ann. i knew you would bring up the macy's card. i was not a donald trump's supportive and a happen, but i will take what i support, his first amendment right to say what he wants to work that's a treasured and coveted right of american citizens. i was not supporting him.

i was a scott walker supporter and i carly fiorina support, but i might not agree with you, but i'm going to tell you that i will stand up for your first amendment rights to say what you want every day of the week. >> i would like to respond to that-- >> it does not allow for rebuttal against that. >> our next question comes from andy. >> the portable care act has been much in the news with the last week of the reports of soaring premiums. what changes if any would you make to the affordable care act? >> i think we need to make revisions and modifications, especially as it relates to the exchange, but it would be a big mistake to throw out the entire for the care act rather than to try to fix it. the 04 for care act has allowed families to keep their kids on their insurance policies until they are 26. that portal care act the prescription portable that met

seniors with high prescriptions would go bankrupt before paying for it they needed and we should also remove the overwhelming majority of americans get their health care through their private insurer and that if you look at the increase in premiums in the private insurance market, that those premiums have gone down compared to before the portable care act and with respect to the exchanges, these are primarily people who have been denied any health insurance before the affordable care act because of pre-existing conditions like asthma or diabetes. we do need to reduce the premium and co-pays and that's why i supported from the beginning in public option to create more competition and more choice within that system and to help drive down those prices, so fix it, yes. throw it out, no. >> ms. szeliga spirit this is a clear difference between my opponent and myself. the affordable care act test or not to be anything but affordable. we know next week our families

will receive their statements with their new premiums. we know they are going up double digits. we also know the maryland health exchange has just two providers in our rural areas one is evergreen and we know from reading your paper, the baltimore sun, that evergreen is on thin ice right now and may not be able to survive as most of the co-ops have not survived. if that is to happen, we will have only one provider in their exchange. we know what bill clinton said about the affordable care act and i am agreeing with bill clinton. he said this is crazy. people are working 60 hours of work they cannot afford their health insurance. premiums have doubled and their out-of-pocket expenses have doubled. it's not affordable and i would not support a public option. the government has created this health exchange that doesn't work. so, now, we are going to let

them have our healthcare as well i think this is a problem that needs to be solved. i do support some of the provisions including pre-existing conditions, allowing our kids to stay on healthcare plans. these are reasonable and rational, but we need free market things put into the health exchange and we need to work reform. you are not going to fix health care until you fix health reform >> i would like a rebuttal, please. looks, there's no doubt that the exchanges see premium increases that we need to encourage more young people. we do need to encourage more options like the public options within those exchanges, but it would be a big mistake for the over 20 million americans who now have access to affordable health care if you were to get rid of it entirely. we have reduced our uninsurance rate in the united states with historical lows and those are good things. donald trump made the statement saying just yesterday on the

affordable care act, attacking the affordable care act and he said all of my employees are facing these outrageous premiums as a metaphorical care act. it turned out his employees are not even in the healthcare exchanges and that is part of it that needs to have more competition, so delegate kathy szeliga is making the same mistake in inflating the exchange issue which dates to be fixed with the rest of the insurance market. >> thank you. moving on to our next question to ms. szeliga, the economic recovery from the great recession has been slow and then even with going disproportionately to upper income households. which it covers do to improve the economic prospects of the middle class and working poor? >> great question and as i have trouble across the state of maryland i can say that people are suffering and they know that our economy has been growing at less than 2% for many many years

middle-class families pay-- their expenses have increased. i'm a small business owner, 30 years ago my husband and i started a small company and we are still in business today and i will tell you what businesses need our job creators. they need the government to stop the overregulation of business and under this current administration or than $743 billion worth of regulations have been passed and that hurts small business who cannot higher or they can't give their employees raises in the tax code is unattainable. my opponent has been in congress for 14 years and over that time the tax code has gotten more and more and more complex. i think we learned that years ago that warren buffett paid less taxes than his secretary, yet they have done nothing to fix that problem. we need a simple five tax code and we need to help small businesses get back in the business of hiring people.

>> we need to accelerate job growth and the economy, but let's remember when president obama was first sworn in that economy was falling through the floor and we have had 15 million jobs created in this country since we came out of that hole, so that's the good news. we need to invest in things like the port of baltimore. we need to make sure we deal with the howard street tunnel to make more competitive. we need to work together, local government, state government and federal government to make sure incentives are right and at the federal level we need to reform the tax code and get rid of the provisions that encourage businesses to move jobs overseas and instead invest in the us. i have pushed for getting exactly that thing done just like i was one of the chief sponsors of legislation to get greedy-- rid of the--

unfortunately republicans blocked it and that's why we need people who support those ideas. we also need to make sure every child has a good start life with education and that means focusing on early education. it means good k-12 for every child in every neighborhood and it means a strength in community colleges and four-year colleges and building better pipelines between those skilled billing opportunities and the employers. in maryland, we are focused on those opportunities and we need to build on them. >> i would like to rebut. >> yes. >> governor hogan just announced this week that he's going to get that howard is street tunnel fix how great is that? i'm proud to be endorsed by governor hogan and i went to be a partner with him in washington because the porch is a vital part of our economy and a huge job creator here in maryland right baltimore. i want to work on workforce development issues. we have an education system

today that's not preparing our students for the workforce of tomorrow. we have 3 million jobs that are unfilled in this country. we do need doctors and lawyers, please, no more attorneys. we also need accountants, but we also need welders and carpenters and truck drivers and we need to make sure we have an opportunities for our students across the board. >> thank you. the next question goes to mr. van hollen and it is from ann. >> do you believe free trade agreements like nafta and the proposed transpacific partnership are good for america >> i do not believe that ttp is good for america and i think we need to look at every trade agreements on its own merits and ask ourselves the question, is it good for our economy, is a good for our workers, is a good for our workers wages. in my view that ttp fails that

test. that doesn't mean we shouldn't support exports. we had the port of baltimore and the reality is lots of maryland jobs are tied to international trade, so what we need are agreements that actually encourage american exports, not flood our markets with cheap imports, so i do not support the ttp. i would point out that with respect to the howard tunnel unless the governor's planning to put the bill himself, which he doesn't to say he is, he will need a fast lane federal grants, which is what we are pushing to try to get, so we are glad governor hogan is supporting this. now let's work together to make sure we get federal funding to go with it because that is also important economic growth. but, let's remember making sure that we have institutions, community college that can provide those skills is essential. i'm proud to have been endorsed by the ironworkers and sheet metal workers and everyone who wants fair trade and a decent

and fair shake in the us. you know, bethlehem steel closed and left behind 10000 good paying jobs that had been there. we need to make sure we have investment, trade.atlanta, but we need to make sure they bring back good paying jobs so we can work together to do that. >> thank you. ms. szeliga. >> i believe in free trade and fair trade that protects america and american jobs first. we do need a workforce revitalization. know what, you can't export your plumber to china and you can't export your electrician to china these are great jobs that are available for our youth, but you know, you just heard my opponent congressman van hollen talk about putting these programs and community colleges. i would like to see these programs back in our high schools. you know, when i went to severna park high school i dated a boy

in the electrical program. the high school was a community high school been just as it is today and that program does not exist in the high school any longer. we have to ask ourselves, where are these programs? where are these opportunities for our young men and women that they can be an electrician high school instead of delaying that until community college where it will cost them money and time. i believe that this is how we will change our country. let's look at the workforce development. commercial truck drivers-- there is a shortage of them today and was the answer to that, career politicians in washington put more and more regulations on our truck drivers so they can't actually increase their business and bring more people into that trey. so, i will support free trade, fair trade and american jobs. >> any rebuttal? >> yes, i mean first of all i support the idea of having more

skills building in high school as an option. in fact, you see lots more high schools in maryland bring that back, but is also important we encourage committed to colleges and apprenticeship programs spirit you talk about electricians and i'm proud to have been endorsed by the international brotherhood of electrical workers, people out there is installing electrical equipment and homes and businesses everyday because of the work we have been together to support their apprenticeship program and to make sure they get a decent wage, so all of these things are really important. we do need to have better coordination between our k-12 system, community college system and are four-year college system , but we all need to remember it begins with a really good early education and a solid k-12 education and beyond. we also need to build partnerships between trinity colleges and jobs and i was pleased to get a grant for the federal government to do that in the area of cyber security. >> what can congress due to

address college affordability and increasing levels of debt many young people face as a result of higher education borrowing? >> at the great question. college affordability is on everyone's mind. i look back-- i'm very proud. we have two grandsons and they are both married, both graduated from college and that was a little over 10 years ago that they started college and tuition has doubled, doubled since they started. we have a lot of people talking about how we will free up cheaper money for college students, but we don't a lot of people talking about accountability and higher education. why is it that these educations are twice what they have been while our economy has stagnated and family wages have not increased? i think we need to find a way to deliver these educations in a more economical fashion and look at your cell phone, look what

you can do from your cell phone today. i was a nontraditional student. i graduated when i was 32 years old, so i know how tough it is for nontraditional students to go back to school. today, with technology i could have done a lot of that right for my kitchen table, which would have been more economical and more formal. what i would like to see-- [inaudible] >> lisp at these trade jobs back in high school so our kids are able to receive training and education in high school instead of community college levels. i have also supported a bill that would allow students to put their student loan debt into their home mortgages. >> thank you. mr. van hollen. >> this is a big challenge in our country we students graduated from college with big debt and starting out from behind. we have made some progress. i'm pleased to have led the successful fight in congress to get the big banks out of the

student loan business. they had been pocketing billions of dollars in taxpayer money that should've been going to students, so we got them out and then we got them out entirely with respect to student loans and that's helped address of the issues, but there's no doubt you have number one, students have graduated with these huge debts. i have proposed legislation to allow them to refinance at lower levels and with respect to students currently in college, i support the proposal that was put forward by secretary clinton and bernie sanders to address that issue. it's an innovative approach. when this issue came up in the maryland legislature, delegate szeliga voted against the college affordability legislation. last session governor hogan let it go into law, that she opposed it. that would have provided more opportunities for kids to go to college without coming out with these huge overhanging debt.

that was an opportunity in the maryland legislature. i'm sorry delegate szeliga did not support it, but we will continue to fight to make sure that we address the issues and enact legislations like that moving forward by hillary clinton and bernie sanders. >> i would like to rebut. thank you. you know, think we have an education system that is broken today. we had people telling our students they are only happy future is a four-year college degree. they go off to college and a mass tens of thousands of dollars worth of student loan and then they come home and they are prepared to live in your basement because they have not been trained with the job skill that will actually get them a job. so, we need universities to do a better job making sure our students are not getting out of school with these huge massive loans and although back to saying what about these other great opportunities. you know, opportunities in the trade, first responders, law

enforcement, military, there are plenty of options for our kids and it's a shame the only thing they hear over and over again is that you have got to go to a four-year college. look, again, i put myself through college and i could it's important, but it's not the only answer for our students and a workforce-- force. through the next question, first to mr. van hollen, the nation is experiencing a wave of overdose deaths from heroin and other opioids. what should the government pursued to face this epidemic? >> this is an epidemic in every part of maryland and around the country and overall, our approach should be to switch from what has been an entirely criminal justice approach to a healthcare model because the result has been that we had our jails filled with people who committed nonviolent substance abuse offenses, which is why i

have been pushing in this direction long before this important national conversation began. at the federal level, there's legislation to do exactly that, to say that with respect to nonviolent offenders we will look for other alternatives and to make sure that for those who have been in prison and are coming out are returning citizens that we provide them with a second chance so they don't start out behind when they are trying to get back into the workforce, so we need to attack this on all levels, but i think our whole framework needs to change and we need to make sure resources are available at the federal level for health clinics in all their neighborhoods on bipartisan basis the house passed legislation dealing with substance abuse, but has not provided the additional resources that would meet the challenges of that legislation, so this is to be a priority, but we should change our focus and focus on the health aspects of addiction affects or not treat

this as a criminal justice matter. >> ms. szeliga. >> the heroin epidemic is a scourge across our state and across our nation and i doubt there's any one of you in this room or in the listening audience that could talk about a personal connection you have and you know when someone whose life has been changed, altered or even ended by this horrible scourge of heroin addiction. i will tell you i am proud to a blood-pressure up gaylor apartment of harvard county in the last legislative session to bring change in harper county. he's doing a great job working on this on a local level partnering with the hospital to really know how me overdoses and god for bid even deaths do we have and where are they. i will tell you what i've learned about the heroin addiction after working with the sheriff is that this really needs to be looked out from the local level. it to looks differently in all of our communities. some of the strategies that we

are employing in harper county would not work in baltimore city. some of the strategies that baltimore city uses would not work in harper county, so i believe we need to empower our local health departments, our local law enforcement, local recovery centers and parents and families to really deal with this issue at its core. i also support the justice reinvestment where we are taking -- we should not be locking people up for doing petty crimes because of their drug addiction. that is no way for us to solve this heroin crisis. >> rebuttal. >> i would point at with respect to the last comment that the maryland legislature looked at this issue with respect to marijuana is a substance and decided to decriminalize it to make a civil offense. delegate szeliga voted against that and wanted to maintain its criminal penalty and actually expand the scope for marijuana.

i think that's a long way to go. i don't think we should lock people up for substance abuse. i think we should try to find treatment in addressing the issue at its core. >> may i rebut? >> no. >> i will get it at the next question see the next question goes to you first and it comes from ann. >> thank you. >> american military intervention in the syrian civil war. >> the marijuana issue i cannot let go. [laughter] >> i'm sorry, but this is a free debate and yes, i did oppose that because that would allow people to smoke pot on the boardwalk in ocean city. that's what our debate was about. it's illegal to october the boardwalk in ocean city with an open container beer or alcohol and it should justly also be illegal for you to smoke pot on the boardwalk. that's what that debate was about. if you want to allow people to do that i'm sorry it is a family resort and i will support ocean

city every day of the week. now, regarding syria and middle east, no, i would not support at this current time putting our military men and women on the ground. i don't think we have a clear mission. i have been able to meet with military experts and generals and national security experts and they have said to me, kathy, what is our mission? do you know what we are doing in the middle east and my answer was no, it's not clear, so if you don't have a clear mission with a clear goal and clear objective-- on a proud daughter of a 20 year career army veteran. my dad served two tours in korea and one tour of vietnam, so i know firsthand the families of struggle when left behind and i would never ever take a lightly the lives of men and women who serve our military by putting them in harm's way without a clear direction and leadership from the commander-in-chief. >> mr. van hollen. >> first let me just say without respect, delegate szeliga,

you're mistaken. what is said is that it would be a civil penalty to smoke marijuana. you could not be thrown in jail for doing that. look, when it comes to the decision of putting our men and women in harms way, that is the most solemn decision that congress or the american people can make and my view is that we should only do that when our national security interests are at stake. i oppose the war in iraq. i was a strong early opponent to the war because i did not think it met that task and we have seen the awful fallouts from that war. i believe that putting american ground combat troops in syria would be a huge mistake and just make matters worse. i do support the ongoing efforts to go after isis and we have to eliminate and defeat isis. we do that by supporting the iraqi military and the kurdish

forces in both iraq and syria. we have an ongoing battle right now to retake mosul in iraq. the us is providing our support for those iraqi forces as well as kurdish forces in syria. we need to do that because we need to strangle and eliminates isis. this is a serious issue, but in my view putting american ground combat forces in syria would not accomplish our goal took it would make things worse and it would drag us another iraq. >> any rebuttal? >> yes. in a former-- in a previous forum i have had with congressman van hollen he said he thinks we are safer today than we were seven years ago and i would say we are not. i'm worried about the future. i will tell you, it is one of the reasons i'm running. i have a baby avery who is 20 months old and i'm way to her and i know the mark-- on mom's a? guest: around the state feel the

same way. our country is not safer today than it was and i know that we need people in washington that will value our military and know that their primary job is to keep america and americans safe. >> thank you. next question comes from andy greene and goes to mr. van hollen. >> what sense if any should converse take to address climate change and what role should the epa play? >> climate change is obviously a global problem and a very local problem. just to highlight the point, we had a hearing it little while back at the us naval academy and we had the superintendent of the naval academy testified to the challenge and the threat that climate change pose locally and also pointed to the flooding at the docks in annapolis as an example of how it was having a local impact and it's costing all of us right now. 's failure to act in address climate change is can shooting to more intense weather events

and people are paying more than property and casualty insurance right now. so, we need to address it. i put forward legislation that has broad support in the environmental community, endorsed by the sierra club that would do that by putting a limit on the amount of carbon consistent with the scientific recommendations, but also return the proceeds 100% back to american households, so that over 80% of american households actually end up with more money in their pockets that mean that day than before and it addresses the issue of what happens when our competitors are not playing by the same rules because we would apply a tariff on them equal to the amount to a cause them to do what we are doing here in the us , so it's a good proposal. it also brings with it lots of job opportunities to invest in more clean energy and energy efficiency, which maryland is beginning to do and which can be a big job growth area for us. >> ms. szeliga. >> well, if you like the

rain taxi will love congressman van hollen's climate change tax and that's exactly what it is. we know with the rain tax it was a taxon 9% of the they watershed and we know the watershed goes from new york to virginia and 10 jurisdictions in maryland were required by the states to charge impacts. to clean up the day that 91% of the rest of the watershed was contributing to, not dealing with the pollution coming from pennsylvania and that is exactly what this will be. it will be a tax on your utility bill. i absolutely know that we have to look at climate change and we must look at the science. i'm not a scientist, but i know we need to look to them for advice and i will protect americans and american jobs. of course, humans impact our environment, but we are not going to ask

americans and america and american jobs to do the work for the entire globe. needs to be be a say are playing field took those of you that drive through the tunnel may see the giant piles of: by the harbor to handle. those be shipped to chart where they will burn it in power plants. they are building about one a week in china and they do not have the same environmental conditions and standards we have in america. >> thank you. any rebuttal? >> yes. let me just say with respect to the chesapeake bay, i'm pleased to be the cosponsor, bipartisan cosponsors of the check-- chesapeake bay caucus. one of the things we have had to fight his efforts from the majority of the republicans in the house of representatives to let penciling out the hook when it comes to epa enforcement of the chesapeake bay

agreement, so we would welcome reinforcements on that issue. fortunately, the senate has bought that effort. i listened carefully to delegate szeliga's answer and i did not hear any proposal to actually address climate change. this is a serious issue and also is a huge economic opportunity for us. as i indicated in the legislation proposed would put a tariff on those other goods coming from those countries that did not meet the same requirements, so there is no penalty at all to us businesses. in fact, there are great opportunities into the area of investment in clean energy. >> next question goes to ms. szeliga. hacking has been a major story in this presidential race and has affected millions through data breaches of corporations and institutions. what can the federal government do to improve cyber security? >> certainly needs to be a priority. i'm very proud pair just this week my website, my campaign website was deemed one of the safest here in the region.

there was a convention going on here locally and the nbc affiliate in washington dc came out and interviewed us because our website was -- got an a was the most secure and i think congressman van hollen's was not and he said they were going to work on and fix those problems, so when i hired a company to handle my website and handle my information on the web, that was one of the priorities that i looked at. what's kind of security were you going to offer because i'm asking volunteers to come and share them it-- or their information and donate to me, so i want to make sure that information is safe. of course, our federal government has a serious problem. the office of personal management with hot and thousands and thousands of federal employees personal information and their children's information was put at risk. i know many people have told me this is a problem and i don't think the federal government has done anything to fix it, i mean, congressman van

hollen has been there 14 years in the situation is not gotten better. it's only gotten worse. >> mr. van hollen. >> clearly, hacking is a big problem and challenge a cost in our country. in the public sector and in the private sector, sony and major financial institutions that spend a lot of resources trying to protect themselves have been hacked, so we do need to up our game in terms of protecting these systems and we have a great opportunity here in maryland, both to address that challenge, but also with respect to jobs. we are the home of the us cyber command at fort meade and if you go there there is a huge new investment in efforts to deal with cyber security and cyber warfare. we need to find ways compatible with protecting privacy rights to make sure there's more shared information between the public sector and the private sector to make sure that we meet the

challenge of hacking, which is costing consumers, businesses, cost to families. i was really pleased to actually put together and when a large federal grants for a consortium of maryland many colleges, $15 million to actually train maryland community colleges students in the skills of a cyber security cyber technology. those of students are now better prepared to get jobs at places like for meade and the us cyber command. we need to encourage that and we are trying to elevate the cyber command to a full commence with on the same level, part of other us command said that's good for jobs and security. >> any rebuttal? >> no. i think his record speaks for itself. >> moving along. our next question goes to mr. van hollen and comes from my colleague. >> this race may well determine whether maryland has a all-male congressional delegation since 1973. should voters be concerned about that?

>> when i talk to voters, women, men, people of all backgrounds, i hear them say they want someone who has been fighting for their values and priorities and winning battles in support of their priorities and values and that's what i have been doing my entire time in public office. i was proud to work with senator mikulski to pass legislation so women who had been discriminated against and pay had their day in court. i'm a proud supporter of the paycheck fairness act, equal pay for equal work. we are trying to get that through. i respect a woman's right to choose in the right to reproductive freedom and that's why when you look at the organizations that are looking at women's economic empowerment and their ability to protect the right to choose i'm proud to have their endorsement. i've been endorsed by the women to chamber of commerce and the national organization for women and pro-choice american, planned parenthood and people on the front lines

providing healthcare. senator mikulski i assure you would not have supported me if she thought it would not continue the fight. i find it ironic in a situation where my opponent is supporting probably the most unqualified person for presidents. i'm supporting the most qualified person who also happens to be a woman and i hope will become the first woman president of the united states. >> ms. szeliga. >> i can tell you what women love and that's when people man slain people-- things to us about what we want need, so i will tell you that women are multifaceted of voters and we bring such value and diversity to the table and making laws. every day for the last 55 years i have got up and looked in the near and said i look like a woman and i have to agree with don edwards. she said what a shame it would be if maryland delegation does not have a woman representing

them. it's been since 1973 cents maryland has probably had women represent them in washington dc. i think back to that time. i was a little girl. my mom had a beehive hairdo fact glasses wearing an apron cooking dinner on the avocado green stove and her choices were nurse or teacher and my mom is a proud teacher. and i think how far we have come. .. let me just say, and again i'm not suggesting to any women's groups as to who they should

support, endorse to fight for issues important to women and families and to all of us. i can assure you, you can't dictate to the national organization for women or two the women's chamber of commerce. so to look at our records and to look at our positions on issues and they said the person who is out there fighting for those issues and as the record, track record on those issues is me. i'm not the one who led the fight against maryland women's right to choose. i supported marriage equality. you didn't. there are lots of issues that are out there that are important to women and families and men. and i'm proud to have the support of those groups. i do think it's really important when you have a candidate for president those most qualified in our history who happens to be a woman, you would put party over country in making that decision. governor hogan put the country

over party as you have spilled our next question comes from andy. >> how serious and oppressing a problem is the national debt? what is driving its increase in the would you do to address it? >> the national debt is astounding. and truly one of the reasons that i'm running for u.s. senate. we know that it's almost $20 trillion. what does that mean? a million comparability and come a trillion. 20 trillion? i can't picture what that might be. be. what amuses everyone of you and your children and grandchildren already oh the federal government over $59,000. that is your share of the debt. and, frankly, that is not an inheritance i am willing to turn over to my granddaughter. we need people in washington that never would admit there's a problem. my opponent opposes a balanced budget. i think washington needs a 12

step program on a lot of things and it starts with spending. admit you have a problem. you cannot spend more than you make year after year after year. your family would be bankrupt and so would your business. yet for some reason washington just like they can year after year spent more than they make. we need a long-term plan to solve this problem, and we need some zero-based budgeting. when government talks about a cat come it's interesting that a cat as a decrease in increase. people need to realize when government talks but a cat it's not a cat that you taking the a family business or in your family budget. if you had $100 you asked for 120 and they give you 110, the conflict would call that a cut. i would call that an increase. we need people, the government to do the zero-based budgeting. >> thank you. >> we do need to address the national debt. and a number of years ago a bipartisan group of

simpson-bowles put together a framework, a bipartisan framework for tackling a. i didn't agree with every specific element of that proposal of the overall framework of addressing it through a combination of getting bit of a lot of tax breaks and making some important reforms provided a good direction for the country. when it comes to tax breaks, our code is written with the tax breaks that are not there for economic reasons. they are there because some powerful lobbyist guided in the we talked about carried interested in makes no sense hedge fund managers pay a lower rate than people who work for them. i put forward proposals to eliminate a lot of that junk in the tax code as we go forward. on the spending side we should allow the federal government to negotiate drug prices in medicare. it is crazy we have a system where the veterans administration to negotiate the prices but we can't drive down costs to taxpayers and to medicare to that effort. there are proposals would have

to get at this issue. we need to generate more economic growth and i would just point out that donald comes tax plan has been looked at by nonpartisan observers. it would bust the deficit three or four times and the debt through four times to what it is today. she's supporting the candidate who would totally blew the national debt. >> i certainly don't support his tax plan. look, i call balls and strikes. i continue to criticize think on both sides of the aisle. we need people are not going to go to the corner and throw mud at each other. i will tell you congressman van hollen has talked about the women's chamber that has endorsed and you'll be happy to know they endorse zero republicans. you can make a group and/or some of you want to endorse. the national chamber of commerce has given them a 38% voting record which means more than 60% of the time he's voting against business. the nfib he has a lifetime 6% score with them.

and many, many other business groups continue to weigh in on the debt and deficit and it is a major driver of our economy. if we don't deal with this, a third of our budget will be taken up with interest on the debt alone. he does not support a balanced budget. you didn't say that he does. how will they fix this problem if he won't admit you haven't? >> and t-bird much. our next question goes first to mr. van hollen. in the interest of time there will be no rebuttal on this question. congress have been grid locked for years. can you name an issue in which you believe there's an opportunity to work across the aisle? >> sure. i can mention many. i should say that i have worked with colleagues across the aisle to enact many important provisions. even in the very polarized environment. last year on a bipartisan basis we did the reauthorization for which is to be no child left behind. i teamed up with republicans to

pass legislation to the families of kids with disabilities. i met two boys in the park with down syndrome. their parents were really worried about what would happen to them when the parents grew older. we established a tax-free accounts for parents to say. whistleblower protection legislation, because people who blow the whistle on fraud or waste and abuse in government should not be retaliated against. we should make sure they're protected. those are things that became law on a bipartisan basis that i worked on. going forward i really hope we can have a major infrastructure modernization plan on a bipartisan basis. we need to invest in modernizing our roads, bridges, transit ways, broadband in rural areas and inner cities. that provides for good paying jobs. so we tackle a big national challenge but also we are able to provide great job opportunities. so i do think that's an area for progress.

i know secretary clinton, if she is elected will make that a first order of business. ad hocly can get bipartisan support on that. >> thank you very much. >> veterans, that is why my heart is and that is where the heart is troubled day after day. it is not a democratic issue and it is not a republican issue. it is a moral imperative that we had to serve the veterans of our country. the men and women who risk their lives for our safety and our freedom. and i can't tell you how upsetting it is when you open the paper and read about the bottle after debacle going on. i look forward to working with senators from every state in this union to reform the veterans administration. the suicide hotline, i was in cambridge at a veterans roundtable, a demand took us let's look out, an older gentlemen who is a veteran andy dow the va. usage will not believe this.

listen to the message. it was a saturday. we didn't expect anyone to answer at the message was if you have an emergency, hang up and down 911. if you'd like to reach of the suicide hotline number is 1-800 blah, blah, blah, block. that is that serving our veterans in crisis. we can even direct connect our veterans to a hotline. then we have congressman van hollen who voted against the va can build a bill just four weeks ago. he stood with unions and not with veterans. we have so many problems in the va that need to be solved and i will look for to working with great men like john mccain on these issues and i do my word i will work tirelessly until we fix the va. >> thank you very much. this will be our last question and again in the interest of time there will not be a rebuttal. >> cities have experienced significant increase in shootings in gun homicides during the last few years.

is the answer to keep americans safe more guns in private hands or fewer? >> so, we all know that there is a serious problem with gun violence in baltimore. again you open the paper and read almost daily of shootings and even murders. and thank goodness for maryland's shock, saving many lives, people who are shot in gun violence. and i can than what i've done your i met with the maryland against gun violence and i tell you what was great, reach across our, meet with people of maine or may not agree with your solutions and i'm proud to tell you we agreed on more than we disagree done. what we agreed on primarily is that prosecutors and judges are not enforcing the laws on the books. so they're letting these violent criminals back into the neighborhoods. heartbreakingly read about a child who is shot, they come in the health of a rap sheet a mile long, yet he is in our

neighbors. he hasn't been taken out of our neighborhoods. we have to enforce the laws on our books and that is how we're going to turn things around. my opponent, demagogue this issue. he uses it to raise money and i'm sure he will tell you lots of things that it will be able to rebut when i'm done, but we need people that will stand up for these communities and make sure that our laws are being enforced in these violent criminals are not terrorizing our neighborhoods. >> we've got to address the tragedy of gun violence. in maryland and around the country. when i was in the maryland legislature i teamed up with a mom on the name of carol price lost her son to an accidental gun shooting when he went to play at a neighbors house. we worked together and make maryland the first state in the country to require the guns have built in safety trigger locks to

prevent those tragedies. it has saved lives. we need to enforce the laws but we also need to make sure nationally that we do with the laws that allow a lot of guns to come in for maryland from out of state. we need to close a big loophole in a criminal background check system right now. have universal criminal background checks. should not allow people were on the terrorist watch list to be able to walk down the street after being denied access to an airplane and buy a semiautomatic assault weapon. these are things that we need to do. in fact, a study by johns hopkins showed what the maryland legislature did a few years ago it required a permit to purchase a state licensed is like connecticut where it's been a place for longer period of time. ms. szeliga vote against that commonsense gun legislation in nearly and the only person to my knowledge was raising money on this issue is ms. szeliga who got money from the gun lobby and the nra. i don't know how they found

common ground because they decide to spend money on a radio ad warning people about her position. >> thank you very much. we now move to our closing statements and again as a result of a coin toss, the person who will begin his mr. van hollen. >> well, thank you all for listening. when i think of senator mikulski i think of somebody who works on the above all marylanders. we've got a lot of work to do. we've got to make sure we work with urgency to make sure every child from east baltimore to the eastern shore, from west baltimore to western maryland gets the very best education in life. and we need to make sure we have an economy that works for everybody, not just the folks at the very top. we need to end the scandal of mass incarceration and the scourge of gun violence. and protect the resources of the chesapeake bay and address climate change. working together we can do all these things as marylanders. one of my favorite sayings is

the world needs -- both of all the world needs dreamers who do. let's be dreamers and doers together. i ask for your support on election day. >> so jeanette boechler choice today. in november, on november 8 you can vote for someone who is a career politician who's been washington for 14 years and just ask yourself, is gun violence better or worse? is the economy better or worse? is your family safer today than it was when he took office? what's the definition of insanity? doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. if you want to change washington, you are not going to do by putting the same people back there. i am a wife, a mother, a grandmother and a small business owner. i'm going to roll up my sleeves and go to washington and change things for you and your family to make sure the american dream

is available for the next generation your please visit my website, join the team and ask for your vote on november 8. >> thank you very much. [applause] >> this concludes our debate for this evening. thank you very much for joining us. it's now up to you. goodnight. [applause] >> c-span brings you more debates from key u.s. house, senate and governor's races.

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television companies, it is brought to you today by your cable or satellite provider. >> all this week "washington journal" has been focusing on presidential battleground states in this year's election. today we took an in depth look at florida. this portion is about 45 minutes. >> host: and we are back continued our battleground series this week with florida. joining us from ft. lauderdale this morning is susan macmanu macmanus, ph.d political science professor at the university of south florida. let's start with what is florida a battleground state? why is it a swing state? >> caller: because florida is a microcosm of the united states at large. two-thirds of the people who litter were not born here. we often say that our politics is in part from every other part of the united states and also from latin america and other

countries. so we are a melting pot after demographics more closelyy parallel and near the united states at large particularly and race and ethnicity. and increasingly in age than any other state. we are absolutely almost tied in terms of the% of registered democrats and republicans. it's 38% registered democrats, 36% republicans and the rest no party affiliation. we are just the actions bob bishop as in the past. >> host: party registration is year parity. what is the impact of that on outcomes and the states swinging back and forth? >> caller: the last three elections we've had, the 2010 20 governor's race and the 2014 governors race and the 2012 residential contest, the victor only carried florida by 1%. that's how competitive this state is. 2012 alone when obama bested romney he only won florida by

0.9%.es this is highly competitive state. the parties work hard. the grassroots is critical. the swing voters, independents are on the rise. it explains why we are just t inundated with television ads and have been for months on end. >> host: the electoral vote, how many and what does that mean? >> caller: 29 electoral college votes. we are 27 u.s. house members plus our two senators. we are a powerhouse when it comes to the electoral college. we are the third largest state. with the same number of electoral in the college as a new york. we are frankly of the big states with a lot of electoral college votes by far the most competitive. california clearly leans blue. taxes read a new york blue. florida purple. >> host: where does the race stand now in florida?

>> caller: just to show how volatile it is, within the last two days we had one goal come out that showed trump was up by two, and another with a showed hillary up by three. take your pick, but the bottom line is they are both still a tossup statistically which is why there's such an intense battle right now. to make sure that everybody was registered to vote. get out the vote is at peak frenzy level right now because vote by mail has been happening for a couple weeks. in person early voting started this week in most counties. everybody is reporting daily how many people turn in their vote by mail ballots, how many people have voted in person early. the real bush this time has been to vote before election day, a pollution that is being pushed by both the parties in the campaigns because they can track

who has voted and focus on those who haven't. but also by florida's electionos supervisors. the last thing that any supervisor of elections, we have 67 counties, the last thing any of them want a long lines on election day that keep the florida's results from being a firm for a couple of days, as what happened in 2012. so a push everywhere to vote early, either in person or by mail. >> host: who are these swing voters have been, the unaffiliated voters, that could guest:e balance for one of these candidates? >> caller: the swing voters are swing for a lot of different reasons but age wise we knowny that many of them are youngers voters.nn among florida's millennials watauga 18-34 year olds, and they make up 26% of florida's registered voters, a third are registered as no party affiliation. which explains why old parties are really aiming their sights

on college campuses. but there are also other independents who really are minor party affiliates, sometimes we lump the two together, plus the libertarians and greens and other minor parties. they make up 24% of our state. among those of people are disaffected with both parties. they don't like either one of them, for different reasons. t the swing voters are really all over the map but the largest concentrations are young, in terms of race and ethnicity, there are larger shares of independence among hispanics and asians, which goes to pot push to make up about 15 for 60% of florida's registered voters. >> voters know that florida has in the past been seen as seniors voting, that there are pocketss. of cuban-americans who reliably republican, that seniors tend to

be, can vote either way but sometimes can be conservative. thbut then you also the demographics of religion in florida. how does that play out? >> caller: religious makeup of florida is absolutely identical to the national makeup. in fact, when i give presentations i often have a chart that shows the religious makeup of florida. this is based on pew research center data. i put the religious makeup of florida side-by-side by the nation at large, and it is absolutely a perfect mirror. the big change since the last election from last presidential has been the rise of unaffiliated people, people who do not identify with any faith just about 24% of the population in florida a little bit of the same on the same nationally. who are they? the young millennials. frankly, religion has not been a key part of a lot of the discussion in this year's

election as in past. i think a lot of it has to do with the fact both parties are recognizing that the millennials who are now america's largest generation and become a powerhouse politically, that religion is just not some way that you reach them and, frankly, in our state as and elsewhere based on the u.s. fdo from sunshine state survey which i am the director statewide survey released recently, the number one issue as is elsewhere is the economy and jobs. so religion has kind of taken a backseat to other demographics of this timeout. now you mentioned the cuban vote which in the past has been solidly republican, but now the younger cubans are leaning a little more democratic so you can't say that the hispanic vote is all cuban and all republican because frankly not non-cuban hispanics outnumber cubans. they are mixed by giving mores.

heavily towards the democrats, and the puerto ricans on the big story this timeout. the biggest change in terms of hispanic since the 2012 election has been a huge influx of puert, ricans here because the island'h economy has been crashing and many have moved to the central florida area, orlando a lot and more in camp as well but the two areas together, the i four quarter is the big story is the influx of puerto ricans and the democrats been making some inroads there. >> host: so if it stayed in puerto rico it would not be able to vote for president but when they moved to florida, what's it like to be able for them to change their residency and then: vote? >> caller: any person who becomes a citizen, regardless of, or comes to this country like the puerto ricans can cast their vote. it means so much. i have a couple of canadian friends who just became citizens.

they are watching every single thing that comes on television, reading everything. they're so excited to be able to vote in an american election.sa the same is true of the puerto ricans especially in the orlando and which is the largest concentration of new arrivals. we are even beginning to see them exert power in terms of offices. the recently had ended august 30 primaries in florida three puerto ricans who secured democratic nominations, one for the u.s. congress, house. another for florida senate seat, another for florida house seat. so the muscle is really being exerted. not only in terms of voting but also now in terms ofly in te officeholding. >> host: before we get to calls, talk about the geography of florida. image in the i four quarter. but how does a breakdown in florida and where are the areas

that voters should watch onn election night? >> caller: well, let's start at the top, the panhandle, the famous panhandle. let's go from pensacola east towards jacksonville. c that is the more conservative parts of the state. typically vote republican, several military installations especially closer to pensacola, the panama city area, a glint in others, not ago and the other bases. and that's the consider part of the state and it's very, pretty much world, i turn the. he was a high turnout in the seven and 80% in some of the world counties in north florida. then let's go down to southwest florida which would be maples and fort myers. that is the most solidly republican part of florida.

and if you go to the southeast part of the state, that's the most solidly democratic part. pr a lot of this works for nowe people -- i-95 takes northeastern from new york and new jersey and so forth down to the east coast the they settle in southeast florida. i-75 takes people from the midwest down to the west coast and they settle down in southwest florida. so the interstate highway system has sort of helped formulate who lives where. but the real key battleground of course is the i-4 corridor which stretches from daytona east to st. petersburg. the two media markets, cap and orlando together, account for 44% of florida's registeredflor' voters. and in those two media markets the percentage of democrats and republicans is almost identical which is why the mid-drift ofmo florida is called the swing part of the swing state and it is

exactly where you see the most television ads in the wholeit country. number one orlando mortgage or number two tampa.nd it is the battleground rarely will a candidate coming to florida and not appear and at least one of those two media markets on a visit. >> host: the candidates havevi been in this past week many times holding summer rallies and we've been covering them on c-span did you can go to our road to the widest coverage on c-span.org. let's get to calls. building in miami, florida, you up first. good morning to you. what's it like where you are c letting? >> caller: well, i'm an anglo living in a spanish town where i grew up and i was raised. two things went to think about. when i see the commercials of hillary clinton sitting befores the investigative committee where she says benghazi happened and i'm paraphrasing, what difference does it make now?

that rubs me the wrong way because i'm ex-military.ce secondly, i saw a college student voice an opinion by saying, and it really made sense to me, he says we are electing a president. we are not electing a pastor of a church. i'm sure that if we went back in history with george bush, dwight eisenhower, bill clinton, right on down the line i'm unsure we would hear stories that are very comparable to what we are hearing about donald trump. it's 2016. it's not 1953. you have a different character with donald trump, which i support holy. but then again i have to think about, i'm a liberal, i'm a gay man and with hillary clinton, oh the next eight years we're going to be placing for supreme court justices come and we are going

to need liberal judges on that court. so i'm kind of toward. i support a lot of the ideas that donald trump has. with hillary clinton is going to be more of the saint. it really bothered me when we gave iran back that money. when they violated an accepted policy where you do not cross the line of an american embassyn i think they should've forfeited that money. >> host: let me jump in at this point the you have less than two weeks. when do you think you're goinghn to decide? how we going to make the decision? de >> caller: i have made the decision but there's room for change on both sides are it's really torn, if they don't issue. i like the man. i like his ideas and i have tode worry about the supreme court

justice. thank you very much. >> host: we heard that point. what do you say? what is your reaction? >> guest: absolutely reflect i what i hear everyday when i speak to there is groups across the state. people are just really torn. they don't know how they're going to vote. and it's because people really want to do the right thing. if there's one common theme that i hear a lot among floridians is, i wish that this country could come back together, that would be a healing of this horrible divide in this country. but what they see in the two tht candidates, they don't see that coming together. t they're such polarization. and unlike some aspects of one candidate but not of the other. some people have described this whole election as a personality-based election rather than an issue-based election. and i think that that is what of

the sea changes that we've seen in this election which hasha anybody asking, is this the t craziest election you ever seen to be? t and, of course, i have to suggest. it's really changed how we campaign. but many people are torn. and in our state of course you do have a large number of military retirees and active duty military, and their families, and security issues are always a big concern in ourd state as we heard from this gentleman. we also have a sizable gay population, increasingly very political in terms of their activity in politics come in terms of donation and high turnout groups. many running for office now. and i understand people like billy who are really conflicted that are really worried about the security of the country. but at the same time worried about the supreme court. >> host: oscar is next in

yucca valley california. good morning. >> caller: good morning. i think millennials will takee the state because this is a progressive florida state the it's like california. these people are young, invigorated, they are knowledgeable and i will say that it's not just educated whites but it's educated whites and blacks that will vote in florida and will elect hillary clinton.n. this state will be taken by millennials. this is not the old guard of florida. this is a new florida.s a ne host but let's get dr. macmanus his opinion about that. >> guest: as an academic of course you to write things after the election and my big storyline for what's been the biggest change in america and in florida especially in 2016 has been the rise of then millennials, the 18-34-year-olds. we talked a little earlier, people still think it's tough to coming to florida, you run to an area where there are large number of retirees and to talk

the only solace is good and medicare and you can when florida. those days are long gone. the two youngest generations in florida, the millennials is the gen xers make up 50% of our registered voters in what are they interested in? the same things many others are interested in, the economy and jobs. the big question mark is whether people vote because they're still many of the millennials who do not like the two-party system, after all huge portions of them voted for bernie sanders. they are not really as one towards hillary. they don't necessarily like donald trump but will they vote? it's a huge issue. if they vote, she should surely win. .. huge issue. if they vote, she will win. that is why she has been going to college campuses, and she has been able to bring in surrogates that connected with younger people. obama is a terrific

>> among younger women even the idea that just because she's a woman, this doesn't resonate. to many younger people, racial and ethnic diversity is a key part of their lives and raise andracist is still seen as a bigger barrier in life than gender . older ones don't exactly feel that way but i think the millennial's are a big if in terms of turnout and that's why the last phase is aiming everything at lgbt on college

campuses. >> and is the effort to get them to vote early? >> yes, absolutely. there was also before this a big push to have them change their registration. one of the things we surveyed at usf, i was in charge of the survey was we surveyed a lot of election officials across the state and asked them what are the common questions that people call your office and ask about because i was able to talk to groups across the state about how to reach people and one of the biggest things that they told me was that many young people just don't know how to change their registration from one place to another which often has been in the past one of the reasons they haven't voted. they were still under the impression and a lot sterile are that you have to run home to where you are registered to vote but it's very easy to change your registration to where you currently live and i do think that the supervisors across the state have tried to get out that message more this timeout. but it's the mechanics of voting. brand-new voters, brand-new registrants often need that extra help in telling them

where to vote, when. giving them a sample ballot, explaining to them, we take it for granted. brand-new voters are a little bit unsure and intimidated and that's the role of parties and candidates in the election cycle is to make sure those new registrants actually vote because of hurricane matthew by the way, a federal judge in florida extended early voting passed october 18, it goes until october 29, until november 5 so that has been extended in over 120,000 people have taken advantage of that so far. let's go to deltona, laurie, good morning. >> caller: good morning c-span, love to see you guys.

my main issue, and i'm an independent voter born in 1966 and i wasn't invited to any of these parties and neither were the people younger than me like my children but my main issue is power. we have amendment one coming up or solar. it's important for me to be able to choose my power company. for instance, right now florida power and light want to force me to ruin lives in oklahoma by continuing fracking and they want me to pay for that. i would much prefer to pay for solar panels in florida so i want to see them address these power companies not allowing us freedom of choice area and i think it's very important how we bring our power choices down and the more choices we have the better we will be. i want to see candidates who will talk about amendment one, especially in the senatorial race. marco rubio was our house representative for house speaker, he had an opportunity to allow the legislature to take part in

this and they've ignored it sense, kind of like our water amendment from the last election they are ignoring so i want the candidates to address this and then i will make my choice . >> guest: we had the senate debate in fort lauderdale last night and of course it turned very quickly into the usual of each one of them pointing out the other ones flaws and their credentials rather than talking about issues like this. the environment is a big issue in florida. it was number two in the usf nielsen sunshine state survey. the economy is number one but the environment number two. people moved to florida because of the environment. sunshine of course and they want to hear candidates talk about the environment and this is especially true of all age groups but the millennial's are of course a very environmentally conscious generation. but fracking, in our survey we found and this is very interesting for environmental advocates, we found a large portion of floridians didn't exactly know what that term meant. that points out that the

importance of our survey is often to help groups see where people don't have strong opinions and things that need to be addressed. no question about it, the environment is a big issue. climate change, in our state is mostly water related issues. the everglades, the quantity and quality of our water. we have of course environmental things of late but it just hasn't gotten a lot of attention as the presidential level and the u.s. senate race frankly, even though it's critically important to controls arsenic party wise it hasn't gotten as much attention because everything on our television is pretty much presidential ads nonstop. >>. >> host: that races between marco rubio who decided to run after losing in the presidential primary against democratic house member patrick murphy and that

debate, if you missed it and you are interested you can go to ourwebsite c-span.org. we are covering several of the debates from across the country for senate and house races . glenn in new jersey, you are next . >> caller: thank you for taking the time to hear from me. i think the back and forth between hillary and donald needs to be put aside and we need to focus on issues such as global poverty because if we can stabilize these other regions, that's going to bring jobs back here to the us area it's also going to take the threat of terrorism away. a target areas where there's poverty and there's no structure and they can come and take over and there's 1 billion people that are hungry in this world and one child dies every 3.6 seconds and that's from poverty, a lack of clean water, hunger and preventable diseases and i think if we focus on that issue, that will bring some security back to the united states and it will also help

bring jobs around because they will come out of poverty and then they'll become consumers and they will be buying ourgoods and that brings jobs to the united states . >> host: doctor mcmanus. >> guest: certainly, her argument about the global nature of the economy is something that is absolutely true. we know that. the problem is that when you have an election like we have right now and when the concerns of voters are the economy and jobs and personal safety and security which would include both terrorist incidents on american soul as well as all these random shootings that are very unsettling to people, we do see polls that show and asked the question about where people would prefer that

emphasis be spent. one of the polls shows that over half of americans cite less emphasis on solving people's problems in america first and let other countries take care of themselves. americans become somewhat isolationist in what they want when there are such huge problems at home but it's absolutely true as your caller mentions that the world economy is intertwined. it is aglobal economy . as i said, americans say right now, big problems at home, let's address these first and then we will worry about the rest. >> panama city florida, good morning. >> good morning. first i wanted to say that i've been with the republicans for 40 years. i did not vote for bill clinton but when newt gingrich came in, it pretty much accused him of

everything you can think of. he and his wife so i watched this for 30 years. i voted for hillary because i think that was donald trump, his lack of civility and the crudeness was enough to change my mind right there that i would have voted for hillary anyway, i think she's going to make a great president. i've lost friends in the selection. part of my family were divided right now. i hate it. but i still think she's the best one. i could not possibly vote for somebody that is as crude, swears with children in the audience. i think he's terrible. >> host: what about your female friends and family? are both of them, do they have the same reaction to donald trump or are they split? >> caller: they are split. half of my family are for hillary and half are for trump along with a lot of my friends. i've even lost some friendships because of it. >> host: doctor mcmanus, howard joan women in florida

reacting to the stories that came out not too long ago about donald trump and bragging about taking actions against women that you know, did not give consent. >> the women's vote here is leaning towards hillary, particularly the older women spoke probably but it's still not cohesive block of voters. women differ ideologically. to me, the bigger point is how many people just can't talk about this with people that they have friends with or family members. this is the toxic nature of our politics but to me, the most interesting poll that i've seen this timeout was again, it tells where we, and what we've come to is how many people say that they would be very upset if their child married someone from the opposite party. think of that. >>.

>> host: we will go to joe in pensacola, good morning. >> good morning, how are you doing. >> host: question or comment here? >> host: it's a comment. i want to commend the lady that got off the line, a fellow floridian. you know, it's the same old thing and we have to realize one thing. we have to know what it is that we are still aware of. donald trump is your typical, average american man. yes, he's talking about everything people want to hear but if you are talking about the racial divide, it didn't start with donald trump. he's just a voice for people who've already felt that way. with the first black president, there's a lot of resentment in this nation and it's very hypocritical for them to think that the issues are going to hide their true feelings. i wish we would come together

as human beings first and really see that we do have a problem. accept the reality of success and procurement capability speaks for itself. yes, i'm voting for hillary. i'mvoting for hillary for one reason, because she is qualified, ready and prepared . >> host: i heard your point, i want to have doctor mcmanus jump in . >> guest: the racial divide thing that he pointed out does go back many, many years. people are hopeful that that at some point can be resolved. it isn't happening this election cycle but it didn't start with this election cycle either. interesting thing there, even in florida we released poll researching yesterday from our survey which shows when asked what's the biggest divide in our state that's keeping big problems from being solved, just two years ago by far the biggest divide was identified as republicans

versusdemocrats. the partisan divide. this timeout, it's the racial and ethnic divide.we are seeing this all over the country . it's been exacerbated by this campaign but as the gentleman pointed out, it's very distressing to people who just want people to come together. good people. the problem is that how we come together, the viewpoints of how to do it are extremely polarized. >> host: another call from florida in lake worth, tony, welcome . >> caller: i'm really concerned about how they're going to regulate fraudulent voting, fraudulent registration because we've seen it compound to rates that i would never believe. how are they going to account for the overload on our election system? they can't even get through the number of registrations.

>> host: we will have doctor mcmanus answer. >> guest: we've had a lot of great late registrations because of the court ruling that said registration can be extended a week and it's the job of our county supervisor of elections to certify those registrations. and it is what is causing people like your caller to ask the question how can we possiblyverify all this ? every election season in our state and especially, you can understand why, there's always local press that comes up with a story about how people are voting in a state , especially the north but also voting in florida so those kind of things arenot news to florida. they come up every two or four years when we had elections .and of course now the late let registrations and you know, that's causing people to really wonder about the integrity of the election system. but thankfully, let me assure the nation florida no longer

has hanging chance, no longer has the a lot of electronic touchscreens that are causing problems elsewhere. we do have paper ballots, we do have good rules in terms of how people can track ballots that they sent in and so forth. but no election system is absolutely perfect whether it's people or equipment, you can have shortcomings. everybody is committed to making sure every vote counts. the last thing florida wants and any state for that matter is to be the epicenter of the country for a month after an election and i don't see florida going there. i think our election supervisors are doing a good job this timeout. >> we do not want another replay of 2000 but what are the rules now for a mandatory recount? have they changed? >> guest: the mandatory recount is to prevent a certain percentage of automatic recounts and a

tighter percentage being that you have a recount. the first percentage is of a sample precinct and then the other was all of your returns or mandatory recaps. it's half of one percent, i think it's a trigger for automatic recounts. >> host: anthony in las vegas, good morning, you are up early. go ahead. >> caller: good morning. i always watch your show and i really appreciated for the independent news that you can actually watch this. i'm a member of a labor union and one of the only labor unions in nevada who run against the afl-cio and we actually endorsed bernie sanders area they didn't want us to endorse him in the primary and i'm also pretty active online and i'm in a community where there's a lot of millennial's and i know for a fact these millennial's

are not warming up to hillary clinton. they're not going to vote for her and they're pretty dead set on that. we can see the chatter online and a lot of them are starting to warm up to donald trump. and the reason there warming to donald trump is because they want to take the system down, the system is corrupt. we talk about it, all of us. we share posts from wikileaks and we see all the things that the democrat party has been involved in. >> host: i want doctor mcmanus to share her thoughts with us on that point of young people not trusting the system. >> guest: absolutely and again, he points to the verification of it with a percentage across the country. that notices with him in the primaries and caucuses and it is true again, we mentioned earlier that the turnout of the millennial's is in question of course in florida

we have a history of less than a third of young people voting but on the other hand, they do think the system is corrupt. the money in politics is one thing that is alienating to them and when i various party groups across the state, they asked me how can we reach younger voters i say don't make every appeal that you are sending to them all about money because these young people have a lot of debt and they resent that the whole system seems corrupt. they only known to presidents and they've only been a political age for the barack obama and george w. bush administrations and the alienation of the two-party system is very evident. i think you will see that some of them will choose jobs in their prime, we know they will. one of the unfairness things

in this whole process is that polls only focus on hillary clinton and donald trump when in fact in the ballot for other candidates i think that helps for americans in terms of making their decision for younger people are absolutely tired of politics as usual, no question. >> host: doctor mcmanus, it didn't help bernie sanders suggestion, encouragement to vote for hillary clinton and not a third-party candidate? has not yet not help in states like florida? >> guest: it has not helped a lot whatsoever and there are older progressives that also have not warmed up to her. in spite of what sanders has said because the older progressives are the ones that track exactly like your last color pointed out, all the wikileaks, especially when it related to what they already thought was the case about bernie sanders being treated badly by the party so we don't know what percentage with that is going to

withhold their support or one of the third-party candidates but what i will say about florida which makes it so difficult who's going to win is in all my years of following politics i don't believe i can ever recall that there's been such softness of opinions about voting and about who to vote for in both parties at a time when both partiesneed cohesiveness more than they've ever had in the past . i just call this kind of the soft opinion election which again tracks back to the difficulty of using polls totally because polls cannot predict turnout, especially in volatile swing states that are so important like florida . >> host: heather, tony, good morning. >> caller: good morning. i'm a traditional republican but i voted for patrick

moynihan in new york when i lived there. did commandant, i'm going to make it about this population, the world getting overpopulated. earlier the lady mentioned something about reaching out, reaching out and helping people around the world. you've got poverty, my concern is that when the population is getting doubled in asia, china, india, south america, before we know it and i don't know how many years exactly, we will be doubled in population. how far can we go and how much more immigrants can we accept? before we know it, it's a major concern. we have to have limits and we have to have protocols that people probably need to follow. >> host: doctor mcmanus is not an immigration expert but what are some of your thoughts about immigrants in this country and what it means for elections?

>> guest: in florida, it's ridiculous. it is not cited as one of the top issues in the state which i think only five percent in terms of what was asked what was the major issue facing the state, it was not the top but in terms of asking floridians how the economy can best be or improved or what are the things that would best be improved, the top of the list was better paying jobs but number three was the immigration issue. florida has torn feelings about immigration because obviously many people who live here areimmigrants . and my own grandfather was an immigrant area way back when in the 1900s. on the other hand, this is a state also that is aware of what uncontrolled immigration can do for the economy. and so you do have mixed signals on this issue but really , it's not as big an issue here because obviously puerto ricans who are a large influx of our citizens and of

course cubans have had special status. it's just not the issue. what is the issue is immigration and security in our state more than immigration and the economy. let me ask you about the ground game for each of these candidates. where are they sending their resources, their time? who has the better ground game and both of them need florida in the win column in order to get to the magic number of 270. >> let's start with the last question first, absolutely donald trump must have florida. he cannot win without it. hillary clinton could but she doesn't want to lose florida because our u.s. senate seat is critical to whether she can have a senate controlled by the democrats were won by the republicans so she's here fighting for patrick murphy as much as for herself. it is true that when you look at where they're going and whatmedia markets candidates

are appearing in , you can almost sense that they are picking places where they are worried about a key part of their base and turnout. for example, hillary clinton spent a lot of time in southeast florida, particularly appealing to the young college students and the communities of color in that area which have had some turnout issues in the past. she's bringing in president obama tomorrow to that area. but she's also come to tampa as has donald trump, albeit for different reasons. hillary has come to the tampa market, she's trying to reach there. again, the millennial's and a lot of the older voters and hispanics, why did donald trump come to tampa the day before her? to reach the large urban vote which is very critical for a republican victory in our state . our suburban areas are filled with middle and lower income,

not as much but the places that are competitive are places where you have families and children and middle aged and a bit younger population so each of them is carefully choosing the areas of the state where they need to ramp up turnout and that's why donald trump went up to saint augustine. if he's in saint augustine and he's in and on television in the key jacksonville market, a lot of republicans there where theyare going , where they are sending their last-minute money on ads, the get out the vote effort. it is true clinton has better surrogates, trump does it on his own . >> host: susan macmanus, thank you very much. >> guest: thank you. >> host: we are back with our look at the sunshine state of florida and its 29 electoral votes. it will go down back down to fort lauderdale where the chair of the broward county

democratic party and a member of the democratic national committee's executive board joins us from that city to talk to us about hillary clinton and the democratic party's campaign in florida. mister caesar, let's begin with what happened four years ago in 2012. resident obama won florida by less than 75,000 votes, less than one percent. when the state had pretty much parity, but more registereddemocrats, 537,000 , has hillary clinton been ableto capture the obama coalition in the state ? >> i think she has. i think it's been a process because president obama, certainly we talked about millennial's for a really long time and he kind of effortlessly connected with them. i think there's much more momentum now on the clinton

side now that we are closing on the actual election day. i'll give you a historical perspective as you mentioned president obama won florida by one point and about 70,000 or so. broward county where i am is the largest democratic county in the state. the margin of victory, the margin in broward county was 255,000 votes. so for us here, it's not about winning and we are part of the greater south florida, it's about the margin which trump obviously tries to tap down but there is a lot more enthusiasm here and i think there's genuine concern that there is a possibility of a trump presidency. >> host: this is from cvs, there's an article that hillary clinton who many voters said one the debates has not persuaded loretta voters on key items such as her ability to fix the economy or that she understands regular people. fewer than half said she can or does. only 37 percent deal she's trustable in the context of her emails. she's below the 60 percent

mark whether she would match the integrity of president and she failed to hit the 50 percent mark on whether she understands regular people, 40 percent had a question on whether she could fix the economy, 42 percent read what's your reaction to that ? >> guest: first of all i find it interesting, i don't doubt the numbers but i find it interesting where on the one about how she relates to average people, she's comes from very humble beginnings, donald trump did not. he was given money to start off unlike most people i've met in mylife. what's interesting also is we have to remember we talked about florida as a swing state. those numbers reflect why the race is so close . we're the largest mega state since california, new york, texas, we always go in a predictable manner. florida doesn't. it goes back and forth although we do much better in presidential turnout years. i think people have this

baked in with hillary after 24 or 30 years. the republican attack machine has done a good job. on the flipside, donald trump did a good job of defining himself which has been pretty negative so yes, people have concerns with secretary clinton but at the end of the day in florida as will be in the country, i think there's certainly more comfortable with somebody who's reliable and has the right temperament and i think that will make this a more obvious choice. we are closing in to fewer and fewer undecideds. >> host: what do you think could make the difference for hillary clinton's campaign in florida? what will it be and where could that happen? >> guest: suburban women. out of republicans, there are a few left. it's going to come down to two factors, how good is the turnout in south florida,