geographic area to say those to overcome those challenges we need to face. >> moderator: senator please. murphy: i did work on that with senator cory booker. i cannot tell you how many and one negative owe frustrated he was not to sign on his legislation overwhelming bipartisan support there were some common sense provisions to help insure that tune of get back in the workforce that they had the education that he did not even support that plan. >> this is what i am not in favor of of those reforms to

put them back into the streets to harm people per car people arrested if you are 18 years old and arrested for a minor offense. said they convince you to plead guilty now you have record and cannot get to the military for first-time offenders we should do more to divert to the system

miami and tampa the 10 were cities in america with the income gap. what ideas to each of you have to give more floridians a pace? murphy: that is a critical question no question we have made some strides but there are far too many people being left out people tell me they have a matter raised in 15 years that their child has student debt and still cannot get a job and the reason was that they read the newspaper of the economic recovery but they do not feel it in so many have been left of the recovery but we have to do more that means investing more in education from pre-k through ph.d.. we should be investing more

bread infrastructure. with 2.$5 trillion offshore why are we raising the minimum wage class we have to address the tax code as well and the overly burden some regulatory environment. i fink we can solve and help the economy. when asked about these ideas he said it is a waste of time. there are hundreds of thousands of people right now living a minimum-wage. for because now they should not be living end poverty. bad is william is 41 percent of your votes, more than anybody else while running for president. but you have 100 percent of your salary will you miss those votes with those people on minimum wage not

being paid as you have to show up and be willing to work across the aisle. rubio: i air p.j. and find it ironic i a adam assured by the working class by a millionaire who inherit his many scientists and clearly what people are going through. but it is the cost of living but access to the internet. they did a plan is out of control. committing that we need to be addressing. also through the economy has been a disaster for america. so what creates better paying jobs? for those with the skills necessary because we are living through the rapid

with one of the highest tax rates in the planet with those corporate cash part overseas. that is larger than the size of the entire economy regulations that are out of control making america a and more expensive place to do business we have to roll back taxes on small business said the regulatory burden and then to diversify our educational choices. it doesn't have to be a four year degree, vocational training, more alternatives and i have a detailed bipartisan plan that worked on with numerous senators to cree options for raising the mother who has worked for years as a receptionist to become a paralegal. also dual enrollment in high-school allowing them to use the programmed to go to a community college at the same time to be satisfied and ready to work. >> moderator: you have time.

murphy: that is the same failed trickle-down economics more tax breaks for then millionaires and billionaires and you might have forgotten a union carpenter and labor on the back of the pickup truck to build a business for his family the number one thing he taught me was hard work and to show love for work that we all know that you forgot. mitt is important to note the new refining for right there - - right now senator, you're fighting against raising of minimum-wage. >> and not having to worry a uh day in their life.

i know what people are going through but the of minimum-wage and that is better than a minimum-wage increase. with 500 or 600,000 jobs. they will be replaced by a machines and in less than five years there won't even have people at the window so we do want to help them with the skills that they need to find those better paying jobs. >> >> day for the first time ever to abstain from the one continuing resolution vote against the u.s. embargo on cuba. and dish shows that they are

against us when it comes to the embargo. from the debate you talk to the government but not the trade embargo itself. >> this is an important question we could talk about this in the last debate and i will take the same story i told last time. this is a very personal situation and then i talk to them at late vendor standish's personal but we have a policy in place over 50 years that has not worked. i want to help the cuban people i don't believe anybody does democracy like america so make sure we are providing opportunity for those people with the royal caribbean rather see russian

spy ships we can do more to protect national-security basis to help those cuban people out so to ensure we do have targeted sanctions and those with the terrible human rights violations to move towards normalization. and then make can help the cuban people. rubio: the presence removed even further sanctions now they are eligible for the first time in our history. with a massive opening the second point is nothing short of lawlessness if you increase with the embargo are not the demonstration to enforce the detonations if you don't like the policy you cannot just ignore the law of the country and as

far as opening is concerned and cruise ships will bring democracy to cuba? it will not because the cuban government is a dictatorship that now have concession after concession not even a quarter step. data on the same big president announced we would now allow the full sale of cigars and rum that very same week they invited the russians to open a base for the first time in 30 years. this is not working. and for every step and then this is the all one-way deal there are people living there that still your medicare many. harbored by the castro government and a cop killer joanne murdered a trooper in new jersey and the cuban government continues to

protect her. to split is a crazy and broken deal that rewards the castro regime asking nothing in return for human-rights dignity and freedom. >> just this weekend donald trump was done a show in miami and of the cuban embargo me know this is one of your core issues. hot and he violated the embargo and you continue to stand by his side despite that is your core initiative that you care about. is there anything that you can do to support him? rubio: you are criticizing donald trump for the position? that is why you agree to. [laughter]

[cheers and applause] >> moderator: please refrain. we are only 10 minutes away. >> moving forward with cuba the cuban leadership means according to actuarial that hope this they will be replaced by a new generation of leadership but the problem is the result president in human history for capitalism for democracy in a country. this is not been interested in democracy. they $1 a one-two leave one is in place to be permanent. so why pay a are the only people in this hemisphere? >> congressman murphy as a

reference to the town hall in an iowa use said we will not fix america cup but it agreed with the statement. barely night at of 10 americans only did a job that congress is doing. a pdf -- a goes too partisan infighting out and on which issues that can affect positive change in america? >> 84 this question is gridlock what is holding the country back more than anything else. but what i elected to congress with a bipartisan group called united solutions 40 percent of the

freshman class together that we agreed on instead of what we disagree and from that to put forward legislation to get the fiscal house in order. it is amazing what you can accomplish if you don't care for against the credit. a quotation from president truman. i am proud because they are bipartisan to reach across the aisle to get things done. to help insure the veterans are getting the care they need by reducing the backlog. and now just north of my congressional district to pass legislation that is devastated that was signed by law by the president to work across the aisle to bring home billions of dollars for the everglades to pass flood insurance for floridians. into bring home millions of dollars of research to help

the citrus farmers if i will continue to reach across the aisle and that is in stark contrast to senator rubio that when he shows up to vote to 90 percent of the time it is the same as the koch brothers he does the bidding for them in washington d.c.. >> danielle - - ortega has been banned to travel to the country because i worked across the aisle with the industry shin to criticize for stealing election. but i am repeatedly attacked by the leader because not once but twice to impose sanctions but hezbollah is criticizing my name working with the bipartisan way. today it is conditioned if

they are doing a good enough job to take on human trafficking. one these are laws and measures because the work with people across the aisle. >> a club called united solutions. i ask again look at the record of achievement. these things will happen with or without the is been in congress for years never passed a single loss under the president i have been in the senate six years i have worked across the aisle signed by the democratic president even though i was in a senate controlled by harry reid. but the best example when we needed zika by responding of was the first to come forward to support the request. i voted for every single funding bill and we finally

got it done. >> moderator:. murphy: the senator has proven himself he just talked about a secret virus but he took almost eight months to ever get a vote of. the president cannot in february, needed to do something else started working and is immediately. to make sure we're working with the private sector and nih but to have zero influence with mcconnell whatever business up for a vote sunday has no influence of a buddy knows he has 1 foot out the door berkeley have to show up for work gang get to know your colleagues to should have come to my bipartisan group republicans and democrats to bring money home for the everglades. >> moderator: your out of time. otherwise we could go all night.

first by coin toss those two congressmen murphy. murphy: thank you for being here. with this election is about courage senator rubio has failed the test i am proud of all the endorsements they have received from the newspapers and from so many of you because florida deserves a senator that will show up to work and roll up their sleeves to get things done. have a 97 percent voting record in congress consistently proving liability to reach across the aisle to get things done. think of what is at stake, the supreme court came to send of balance. there is way too much at stake we have got to do more . i am asking for all of your vote sanders approach - - support for a while be the hardest working senator this state has ever had congressman coffman 20 for being here today and i respect very much anyone who seeks public office in this

day and age and i appreciate your candidacy as anybody who steps forward. to talk about courage in politics there is no courage in politics that is the people who put on uniforms willing to die for our country we do public service and real honored. i am proud of my records standing in contrast to congressmen murphy i have gotten things done still one hour into the debate cannot cite one single law or policy that he had to do with. he talked about zika virus he also repeated his own virus when negative statement because i was instrumental to achieve that bonding with senator nelson. hopper i know this is an ugly campaign in general. especially for young people voting for the first time. but we will be okay. we're the greatest country

and we will go through this election to turn it around. >> moderator: i'm grateful to both of you to be here tonight. thank you fee-for-service or addicted audience all over florida and across the nation and the audience here. hopper one negative goodnight. [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪

been. >> and hillary has done her job.

now we need to do our job to get reelected president of the united states. [cheers and applause] because here is where i want to get real purpose of hillary does not win this election is on us. it will be because we did not stand with her. because we did not vote for her and that is exactly what her opponent is tapping will happen. that is the strategy. to make this election so dirty or ugly we don't want a part of it. if you hear folks talking about the conspiracy to say the election is rigged understand bear trying to get you to stay home. they are trying to convince you that your vote does it matter. that the outcome has already been determined. day are trying to take away

your help. just for the record in this country in the united states america, the voters decide. they have always decided elections. they decide who wins and who loses. .. end of story. right now thankfully end of story it is amazing to see we make our voices heard all across the country because one day go low. >> we go high and every vote , matters if you have any doubt about that considered 2008 when barack obama 11 north carolina by 14,000 votes. that sounds like a lot. but if you break that down the difference between winning and losing was a little over two votes per

precinct. take that n. because there are people here who did not vote. to votes. people who knew people who did not vote. to votes. if just two or three had gone the other the way he could have lost the state and the election. in 2012 he did this the state by about 17 votes per precinct. seventeen. that is how presidential elections go they are decided on a razor's edge. so you could swing in this stadium. think about it you could win this election for hillary. just getting out to do what you are supposed to do. [cheers and applause]

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we had a point toss prior to the debate to determine that senator murray will go first. muray: thank you to the debate coalition to put this together and microsoft for hosting us tonight. i am frustrated by the gridlock and frustration but here is how i get things done. with my washington state ethics to work hard and do not complain and persevere till they get a dog.

said to talk to people from communities around the state with the hopes and the dreams take those back with me to washington d.c. to solve the of problems here is a good example parkway few years ago i was hearing from parents and teachers i talked to one parent who said his son had a good teacher and did well. to save the school was bathing and he knew and the education was not a failure. so many of those who needed it the most so i took that story and that of many others back with me to washington d.c..

and reworked through that gridlock and dysfunction so now that means we will work better for the washington state families and teachers. and that college affordability do pay back student loans and then to get something done there. so i takeback work ethic and the taking back to make sure the policies that we have and the investments that we make work for the people represent. that is why i ask for your vote so i can be your voice and let me say i am tired of

the divisive rhetoric we hear at the federal level. and to say enough's. and to have a good discussion with the example. >> they give to the washington state debate coalition and absolutely. with dave thoughtful adult discussion negative lucky enough to be in our beautiful state i went to elementary school not far from here. we were married 28 years we have them blessed with two great kids who are here tonight and our daughter natalie is in poland

studying right now. i have vowed to represent our community as part of the council and the statewide leader of my party. no i am running for the senate because i am fed up with washington d.c.. there is a moment in the last debate that sums up buried everything that is wrong with washington d.c.. she says she is willing to work with anyone to bring down the debt but then not to rely any options other than raising taxes simply being hit on bush. we will never get an agreement that way. compromise happens when politicians have the guts to set aside the talking points to come to the center. that never happens right now on the biggest issues that matter the most. that demand real solutions the economy is stagnant.

$20 trillion in debt. washington d.c. is broken after 24 years in the senate part -- patty murray is part of the problem we need a new independent voices to work to bring them together rather than rubberstamp is to the up party's leadership. this is about all water things but it comes down to just one. this is what i look for talking to about tonight. change. >> moderator: there is a way for those watching to participate to shape tonight's debate. you will see on the screen

to help decide the subject matter we will discuss later in the hour. and to determine some of those questions in the debate. i am joined by my colleagues >> the debate coalition has received hundreds of audience questions about immigration reform the especially those who are invited on the other views. i have then in the u.s.a. 10 years on the h. one bb samite application for the green card is still pending and there's no hope of getting one in the near future return my god of the country to visit my family i run the risk of being stuck outside for quite have to put my job and my house and my kids education at risk on

a vacation factor the efforts are being taken to help limit legal immigrants so do you support the removal of the upper country limitation on 83? muray: thank you so much for that question in this safe to side - - safety say no one thinks the current immigration system is working today. face say it is not working for them. they cannot have a secure work force critically those who did in the shadows. and is imperative we take up the issue at the federal level. i was very proud to be part of a bipartisan group of senators that have strong

immigration reform and provided a pathway for citizens with many of the rules that we face today and that we have some uncertainty and unfortunately it was stopped in the house and not brought up for a vote but i am determined to work to get this done. and one of the stories i have heard is a girl who came here as seven years old and got good grades and corrupt here and now she wants to start a business and gets a business degree but living in the shadows. but she wants to be known. we should what hurt to be known and fix the immigration system so that could have been. >> moderator: but the question was about h.b.1 visa. muray: it has to be done in a balanced way under the immigration system so that we take all parts of what we're doing to make sure it is fair and balanced.

people are concerned about the h.b.1 visa system to bring people in mostly because they want to be sure that people in united states have access to jobs. we all do. we need to be educated and trained pretty can be done in conjunction with the h.b.1 visa program. >> moderator: san question do support raising the per country limitation? vance: h.b.1 visa this is been utilized for a long time by microsoft to get the workers who have high tech skills setter necessary but i have heard from a lot of tech workers in washington state that feel the program is used to bring in workers from overseas to lower their salaries and they are very concerned i am pro immigration reform that 2013 bill has all the elements that we need but there has

to be at balance between protecting jobs and people. talking about immigration everybody understands what has to happen. we need as a guest worker program, a battered guest worker program for otherwise but can congress fail to get this done? it is one of the best examples of the gridlock we need more republicans to work across the aisle to major impasses comprehensive immigration reform. >> did i hear you correctly? you would not raise the number? vance: i indecisive about what but on this side need to study we're already allowing too many. i know the number per

country. >> moderator: on friday l. wave of cyberattacks disruptive major websites we have heard a lot about hackers gaining access. so what can and should the united states do to better safeguard the public and private networks and how do we balance the need for cybersecurity? >> that right to privacy is to not have your system hacked. i understand when i read the headlines. to participate in this this cybercommand is the world's best a cybersecurity and also cyberwarfare to

understand their wrists with retaliation as a form of warfare ahead on all why we're not using it we need to make it clear if you use cyberwarfare you might have been relations with united states. >> having a reformation hacked by anyone in this election cycle for we have heard about cyberattacks we cannot allow that to happen whether the electric grid or e-mail me up to make sure we are working to protect those privacies to make sure we have the information shared possibly can prevent them and that we are doing

everything we can to be prepared for whatever cyber attacks we have. fin and we're training people tend the area and to trade with cybereducation it is a complex field and they have not seen the information. we have to work together with our businesses and with our government to protect our individual privacy to make sure we can share information i know my fishing license was hacked. some people's health care they are very complex and we need to work together to address them.

>> moderator: diem been a declared war? what are the rules of the road quick. >> again, when countries have gone too far i believe iran has gone too far the cybercommand has the ability to be launched against us. we need to be clear if you attack our computer grade grade, you will face the same sort of response from us so we cannot passively sit by and allow them to launch attacks with impunity muray: your question is do we move onto counter cyber attacks? >> first of all, we need to be very careful if it occurred and where it came from this is a complex issue

and we have to be very smart. if we know somebody has launched a cyberattack against them and we have the right information to stand up with a strong response bobby have to be very careful in this arena to make sure we have the right investments in our nation and within our budget. and not cutting back on critical infrastructure. >> the question for senator murray. to provide transgendered students including the bathrooms and locker rooms several state sued the department of education and one temporarily allowing schools to block those students n negative bathroom of their choice until they

decide it is violating federal rights law. so what is your position on this issue? to they have the right to decide transgendered bathrooms or locker rooms? muray: i am very proud of my state that is a great example to people across the country ppv spec individuals where they come from with the bathroom issue. i went to make sure they have the ability to know they are secure in their not discriminated against. we'd have come along way battle long way to go.

and are not discriminated against. and to have a supreme court they are the decisions to impact all of us. if republicans have filibuster or prevent a nominee. >> moderator: we're seeing conservative lawmakers trying to pass legislation to ban trends gender people to access locker rooms consistent with gender identity. so with that federal edges patient? >> no. i went to enact those of all americans including transgendered individuals. we believe been a life liberty and the pursuit of

happiness they have of right to live their lives as they see fit to live out their identity and it makes people uncomfortable but to enact policies to respect everybody's rights and dignities. and several years ago they do respect the privacy and in what they did for north carolina those who had gone through the entire process and those that corresponded to the birth certificate is just wrong. you don't need to do that. this is an issue decided in the courtroom as the supreme court interprets the constitution that says equal protection under the law.

but the republican leadership was wrong to allow consideration of any nominee that mr. obama would send them and also when senator murray joined it to filibuster senator all the dough that was the republican nominee. that was wrong i will not. >> moderator: if you have the power and you don't to wave a magic one over the federal budget but to take an equal amount of another program with those two programs? vance: and now i would put more money we need to roughly triple on clean energy research. the federal government needs to do much more about technology to address clinic change berger not by raising

taxes on the american people that what senator murray supports but when and solar especially carbon capturer sequestration to use in the power plants to virtually eliminate the amount of carbon put into the atmosphere. that's right. more money back from taking from any one program what bothers me is that people look at small areas. we will never solve the of problem five finding knotty enough paper clips the way to bring down the damage it is social security medicare or big reform those of the cost drivers. we need is some symbols grand style bargain to bring down the debt rather than small debates because with the debt of $20 trillion

that is why i strongly support the bipartisan grand bargain and battle think that will be done with current members of the united states senate. >> budgets are more than numbers on the page they are or what priorities and policies of our country. the most important is what helps grow the middle class to make sure we have a strong education system with affordability, investing in infrastructure to make sure people have a job to grow the economy from the middle of to i would invest in education and research to help the middle-class grow and i would pay for that by closing corporate loopholes to benefit the biggest corporations. because i believe that theory does not work if we help grow the economy by investing in middle-class

america that is how we get a better budget to reflect the policies the are important for our country. >> we may not hear specific vote for a cut. muray: attacks loopholes are cut. >> moderator: would want to check in with our microsoft topics produce have some early votes right now health care 20% you can still vote on the subject matter we will be discussing later in the debate. we now go to the next question. >> question for both of you hillary clinton has proposed

a plan to allow every student for the in-state public year college. by 20201 incomes up 3-1/2 to $25,000 per year that would require congressional approval do support this plan? if not had to prepare to redress affordability of prior education? muray: things asking that question because i get that from so many people today. so they don't plan to go to college because they cannot afford it too often they say they are working sometimes even five jobs to pay for college education and then have a stand-alone that i am not able to buy a car or a home because they pay back with student loan.

how to make college more affordable. and our economy needs people. so yes i am very interested in the proposal that hillary clinton has put out there and how we can make that work. it is a great conversation to have but if we put this together a weekend get bipartisan support to make sure we have accountability and get good grades achieving what we want them to do to get a degree to allow them to contribute but it is a good conversation to have i am proud of the democrats to put that forward in working in a bipartisan way to assure the

young people in this country don't give up purdue are in a parade. that the student loan debt is for those generations coming behind you. >> i have a daughter who was a junior at washington state univ. nothing would make me happier than free college. there are things we can do to reduce the burden of student debt. your car loan or your home loan. one of the worst things i have seen politicians making promises. with $20 trillion in debt. with hillary clinton's proposal higher taxes for the rich to make college free. and the wealthiest could contribute to a bit more but we need to pay down the debt

not more spending. i would love it if they can make it free for everyone but that is why we are $20 trillion in debt. politicians keep promising things. and with revenue to bring down the debt. with those legislatures across the country to have that support for higher education white tuition is going up. actually they or college tuition is the way to go. . .

that question is, you said months ago that you would not vote for donald trump for president. you have taken some grief from your fellow republicans for this position position. what do you say to those republicans about how you fit today into the grand old party given the rise of the tea party and donald trump? vance: this has has been a very typical year to be a republican. i haven't changed. i haven't changed. i am a ronald reagan clay gordon dan evans jennifer dunn republican. i believe in limited government. i believe in bringing down the debt. i believe in securing our national security. i believe in free enterprise and i couldn't support mr. trump for two reasons. number one he is demonstrated over and over again is not i believed it to the president and the most basic issues that most republicans have always

supported such as free trade, such as entitlement reform he hasn't taken positions that traditional republicans have taken so i made it clear i don't support mr. trump but you know what's interesting is senator murray is an ardent supporter of hillary clinton. i've criticized their party over and over again again. i've yet to hear senator murray criticize a democrat for anything and we need i believe in this new era we need people who will be independent voices not rubberstamp to party leadership for their presidential nominee. i intend to go to the senate as a free agent. i can work with anybody to solve these problems. the last thing we need right now in my view is to elect hillary clinton and give her a blank check rubberstamp congress. i think that's a major concern in the major difference between the two of us. >> moderator: senator murray you do support hillary clinton for president in the "cnn" poll 68% who responded said honest and trustworthy are not characteristics that apply to hillary clinton.

how to explain to washington voters including those who supported bernie sanders your unflinching support? murray: i'm very proud to support hillary clinton for president and here's why. had the opportunity to work with her when she was in the white house in the 90s when she worked extremely hard to make sure that we passed a program that made sure all of our young kids in the chip program had health insurance. i know where her heart is. i watched and worked with her as she was secretary of state and lifted up women around the globe. i know that today she understands what's happening to middle-class families. she knows that too many people today face workplace issues where it makes it impossible for them to meet their economic potential so she is talking about policies like paid family leave and making sure you get paid when you take sick leave and he don't lose out on your salary.

investing in education and college educations like we talked about before i know that she will work hard to lift up families around the country and i'm proud to support her in that. i'm also proud of the grandmother of two young girls to know that they will have a woman as the president of this country. >> moderator: piercer health care question. diana from bellevue asked untreated hearing loss is associated with social isolation, depression, a greater risk of dementia as well as reduce quality of life. medicaid no longer covers hearing aids. would you sponsor or co-sponsor legislation to restore it? murray: the question is that medicaid does not cover hearing aids? i certainly understand your concern. hearing is a critical part of learning in a critical part of participating in society and i would love to talk to her about how we can do that and as we rightly know medicaid is a health care program that is impacted like costs and we have

to adjust as we look at how we do that. but i do know this, health care is a critical issue for so many people in our country and we have to make sure our federal policies, programs like medicaid and medicare are there for people so that they have the support they need. vance: absolutely medicaid needs to cover hearing aids. we need to raise the medicaid reimbursement raid so mort doctors who see medicaid patients. this has to be part of a comprehensive solution. one of the worst things that happens in congress right now is politicians respond to a need as they increase funding for program and they'll pay for it or they cut taxes and they don't pay for it and it drives up the debt. this is why i am such a strong supporter of a simpson-bowles style solution to our budget. this is a bipartisan commission by president obama to come up with a conference of solution to bring down our debt performer

tested and stabilize programs like medicare and medicaid pay will involve increases in revenue which republicans need to involve changes to our entitlement programs which democrats need to to accept that all things things have to be done together not peace now because when we do them bit by bit and don't pay for it that i wind up driving up the debt. that often is not just a number. the debt is one of the main reasons why our economy is not growing. the congressional budget office tells us if our debt were on a downward path we 5% more economic growth. more people would find more good jobs. people are hurting out there. the gap between rich and poor is widening because our economy is not growing. we have had less than 3% growth in the past 10 years for the first time in american history and one of the main reasons why is because our debt is crushing the life out of our economy so these things have to be done together in one grand bargain. right now this generation of

politicians in washington d.c. have demonstrated they don't have the brains or the guts to get it done. >> moderator: thank you. that brings to an end to our microsoft poll question of are today. thank you to all who participated in the auditorium and across the state of washington. now back to my colleague. >> moderator: this goes to chris vance, under what circumstances would you vote to authorize the use of force an american intervention in the ongoing syrian civil war and would you commit more ground forces than we have now? vance: i would love to have one minute and 30 seconds to answer this. any question involving military force or foreign policy me goes back to the need to prevent war, to prevent a major war. i have a 24-year-old son. understand the united states is involved in major confrontations in the way to give all that is to be strong in our commitments.

you have a situation with isis and you have the ongoing civil war in syria between sunni and shia and any of the problem with the kurds who are in conflict with the turks and this is extremely complicated. we need to be focused on job one which is destroying isis on the ground. isis is a country that is an existential threat to many areas of the middle east. they are launching terrorist attacks across the country. they are the ones killing americans united states i'm glad we are putting pressure on mosul. we need to go farther and we need to take back iraq -- raqqa in syria. we need to do whatever is necessary to destroy isis. if that involves a few more ground troops and that's what's necessary but her first job has to be to destroy isis. then i think we need to try to use diplomacy to try to settle the syrian civil war. that's what's causing the refugee crisis is the syrian civil war. it might even involve getting the u.n. involved in further

partitioning that part of the world may be as we did in the balkans. we need to redraw some orders to separate sunni and shia. the underlying conflict to sunni versus shia so it will require leadership that we cannot unfortunately we cannot rule out the use of american ground forces to accomplish this mission. >> moderator: senator murray, the same question to you under what circumstances would you vote to operate a use of authorize force in the syrian civil war and would you commit more ground forces than we have now? murray: thank you that's a very important question because one of the most important priorities we have is to make sure we protect america and american citizens. we do have to fight terrorism. terrorism is not a country, terrorism is across the globe and we to fight terrorists wherever they exist. the situation in syria is extremely complex and i know the

thing we should not be doing right now is putting american troops at risk in a civil war in syria. to fight terrorism and we need to take terrorists out where they exist by using our airstrikes to take out their leaders and their financial resources. we need to make sure that we are working in local partnership to go after terrorists wherever they are and we are doing that now in mosul with support for the iraqi troops that are taking out terrorists bear. that's the right thing to do but we also have to secure this country as well. we know that lone wolves are actually more likely here in united states. we have seen that in san bernardino and we have seen it in paris and that means we need to make sure we are interrupting their social media that they are using recruit terrorists and fight back on social media networks which we are now doing. we also need to make sure here at home we are protecting our

own community with their police so if we have a terrorist attack here we have the resources to go forward. finally i have to say this. at the very least should be doing is saying if you were on a terrorist watch list that you cannot purchase a gun and i'm deeply frustrated that the senate refused to pass the bill not long ago. >> moderator: we have another question from melissa santos. >> federal education policy shifted dramatically from no child left behind to the every student succeeds act. you are one of the chief architects of the new law. what is the proper relationship between federal and state jurisdictions when it comes to setting standards and regulating our nations schools and how does the new law to ensure that the quality of the students education does not vary depending on the state which they live? murray: that's a really important question because we live in a country that assures

every child not matter where they are or where they grow up gets good education so the federal role is to make sure there is a floor and all students are getting access to education so our federal education policy has to assure that all students have an opportunity. as the federal education law essentially a civil rights law. that's why it was first passed because in too many states into many places students of color and students of lower income were not getting the same access. we set the floor and we set the requirements. the no child left behind act was too restrictive and teachers and parents were telling us the over restriction with all the testing was creating too much pressure in their classrooms. we have to make sure that we are accountable with their federal education dollars. when you get that diploma it has to mean something but we also have to ensure the students that come from other states and their students a good other states

come enter school with the same kinds of skills. our new law keeps accountability but has that direct approach based in local communities so they decide what they can do if they are not reaching those accountable roles -- rules. rather than having to cover my say if you don't meet these requirements here is a one-size-fits-all. we have changed it so that states themselves can develop what their response is if students aren't achieving what we want them to be doing. >> mr. fancy fancy of calls and infer federal government forcing schools to adopt standards or face loss of federal funding for education weeks and will report finds southern and western states perform worse than schools in other parts of the country. should geography determine the fate of our children and the quality of education? >> of course not in lemmy salmon hued supporter public education. my kids went to public school and i went to public schools. tomorrow morning my wife will

work with autistic kids with down syndrome. i've served on the house education committee and am one of the senior advisers for randy doren could have been involved in education policy for a long time and the federal government should help provide funding to our local schools. we should make sure that no one civil rights are violated but the federal government has gone far beyond that. we have allowed congress to become the great school board in the potomac potomac. their legroom in cases where parents have gone to school board meeting saying why do we have as textbooks and they will say because the federal government says so we will lose our funding. the new law is better than the old law but it goes far too far in my opinion in terms of interfering in local school decisions. school should be governed by states and school districts not by the federal government. we should not be looking over their shoulders requiring them

to do testing requiring them to adopt certain standards in under the new law but federal government is reviewing the tese standards threatening to a told federal funds. i don't understand why all these members of congress like senator murray and i have started -- don't trust state legislators want to get back to washington d.c.. i think the federal government should help provide funding and they get the heck out of the way. our school should be governed locally. >> picking the next supreme court justice will be one of the most important jobs unless the lame duck session surprises at all. mr. vance richard from auburn has this question. do you support the senate's delay in hearing the merit garland nomination for the u.s. supreme court vacancy and give a litmus test for the next supreme court justice and if you do what is it? vance: i was very disappointed to hear the debate between the

candidates the other night regarding supreme court justices. they talk about the supreme court justices as it they are openly partisan. it's not supposed to be that way. our judges are supposed to be nonpartisan and they are supposed to interpret the constitution as they see it. i think the court has become far too partisan so no i don't have a litmus test. i will look at federal judicial nominations for the supreme court and other courts and whether or not they are qualified whether they are good solid people not for an ideological litmus tests. that's dangerous to our form of government and the day justice scalia passed away calling on the republican leadership to work with president obama to jointly come up with a nominee who could be confirmed by the senate. that didn't happen and in typical washington d.c. fashion the folks spent the last several months issuing dueling press releases and yelling at each other while nothing gets done

and the vacancy remains unfilled. i think it's just wrong and it's gone on too long. both parties do it. as i said earlier when president bush nominated samuel alito to the supreme court some democrats, few highly partisan democrats including senator murray tried to filibuster that nomination. other democrats and republicans said we shouldn't be filibustering judges of both parties have been blocking judicial nominations and it's wrong. i will never support anything other than confirmation hearings and an up-or-down vote from the senate floor. >> moderator: senator senator murray if republicans control the senate after the election is a key senate leader what would you do to get a clinton nomination nomination confirmed? d of a litmus test and is there a dealbreaker and you want to address the filibustering of alito? murray: let me say that our supreme court justices are critical to every person in our country and every business. they provide certainty, they make decisions about our woman's

right to choose, but our environmental laws across the spectrum. my vote for a supreme court nominee has to reflect the values and issues that my constituents care about. every nominee that has come before me i have a value it down on their life experiences. have they been been out and about in our communities and see what's going on? what is their life experience and what is their judicial philosophy and certainly whether or not they reflect the values and my state considers it to be important. that's exactly what i did with justice alito. when he beat -- came before the mic merrick garland i brought him in my office and i talked to him. i listen to him. he be adhering and i listen to every word that was said and i made a judgment that he was not someone that i could support. he is now on the court but i will tell you this, what really disturbs me is merrick garland

didn't get the same. he didn't get meetings with any republicans senators. he didn't get a hearing. he didn't get any ability to make his case to me or any other senator. i wanted to write that my state to vote in that. i hope this election is past the republicans will step back from holding back the nominee and we can move forward. we need a full court. >> for senator murray use it on the armed services committee. u.s. -- and fellow democrats have tried to patch budgets that increase funding for the veterans veterans administration. how do you deal with your republican counterpart especially in the house who continually vote down the budgets while claiming they have veterans tax. murray: i think you are talking about the veterans committee that i said on. the veterans committee covers the dash first of all one of my

highest priorities is the daughter were world war ii veteran and the first woman ever to ask to be on the senate veterans committee and to be there to make sure even though i voted against the war in iraq i have made it very clear in my country armed men and women who fight for us, i will be there to fight for them. i stood up when no one else was and said we are not providing the support we need for our men and women who are coming home from the war in iraq and in afghanistan, to make sure we were there for them with more than just a promise, we were there to make sure the services that they earned, they got in a timely manner and we are not there yet. we still have work to do. i hold every administration republican and democrat be to the fire. we have to keep going and i have gone further than that to make sure our men and women who serve us that they get the skills and

ability to get a a job when they come home so we can make sure the work that they have done is replicated. i call on everyone of us as citizens and business owners and people to make sure that we are doing what we can do to help make sure the men and women who have served us get what they deserve. that includes fighting in the budget committee year in and year out to make sure we have the resources to take care of those who have served us. >> moderator: i will let alexander to which committee you saddam. so my question for you mr. vance in response to alexander, would you vote for increased funding for the veterans administration why or why not? vance: we need to spend what is it for is necessary to keep our commitments to america's veterans. that is everything, everything has to be in the context of the overall budget agreement that will be directed towards bringing down our debt stabilizing social security and medicare reforming taxes and putting to death on a downward path. when you talk about the federal

budget again the big giant cost drivers or the entitlement program social security and medicare and other health care programs so there is money available for the other programs in the context of the budget agreements including veterans programs and of course we have to do that. my dad was a world war ii veteran, vote in -- thought in most of the major battles in europe and got a disability check for the rest of his life. as soon as i announced to the u.s. senate my phones are ringing and veterans passionate about this issue. it's an enormous issue in washington state where we have so many military bases and retired veterans. what i hear consistently is a lot of that, maybe most of them liked the service they get from the va once they get into the system. the problem is that getting in the system. literally hundreds of thousands of veterans have died waiting to get service from the va so congress needs to hold whichever administration does next year more comparable to better

administration of the va and i think we need to get more veterans more options to seek services outside the traditional va system if that's what they want to do. >> moderator: are you saying you anticipate more funds for the reform of the va? vance: again i get nervous about politicians promising. i'm going to increase funding for this and increase money for that and not paying for not being part of a conference of budget agreement. that's what we have to do. >> moderator: with a little bit of time left so you get one minute each for this question but i think in handling the matter. for both of you what is the first web site that you looked at her open in the morning when you get up and what is the last one you look at before you go to bed at night? vance: absolutely the three web sites, absolutely but in addition to the note local news site i look at all the web sites that aggregate the news. i love rilke where politics.com and the others that take all the

various news stories together into one site where you can pick and choose what you need to read. the internet is a wonderful tool for finding the news on line. so that's pretty much where i go. murray: i had to be honest i would love to tell you the very first thing i look at us all of your web sites that i will be on. i looked to see if i want to find out how my grandkids are doing and how my family is doing so i look at what they are up to on facebook and other sites but i do look at many of our state newspapers across the state in our media to find out what's going on so that i can keep current and contingent be a strong voice for whatever the issues are that people are facing in our state. >> moderator: i knew you could both keep it under a minute. thank you. that brings us to the end of your formal questions and interpreted to provide closing statements. senator murray will begin with you. murray: thank you tour moderators who did a good job of that guitar audience and chris

thank you again. i think we had a thoughtful discussion i think chris and i both agree that our country and our economy is not working as well as we would like you to. i think we disagree on our approaches and their policies to get us there. here is what i want you to know. i'm watching my grandchildren grow up in this world and i want for them what you want for years, to be given a good education, that they go to college if they want to come that they have health care and mental health care, that they dream their big dreams and be what they want to be. i want them to know that their country is there for them as it was for me when i was growing up and my dad got sick and lost his job. my country was there to make sure he got his veterans pay and veterans services. they gave my mom the ability to go to school and get the skills she needed to go back to work and get a job and help out all seven kids in our family. my country was there to invest in me to make sure i had grants and student loans to get an education and be here tonight in

front of all of you as your united states senator. i want my grandchildren to know that in this country we respect their neighbors and all americans and treat them with dignity. i want them to know it is not okay to demean anyone for what they look like or what they believe in and our classroom or our workplaces. i asked ask for your vote so i can continue to fight for you and those you love, to help them realize the american dream that no matter where you are or where you come from, the color of your skin, how much money you have that your country will be there for you. that's the promise i will work for everyday is your united states senator. thank you. >> moderator: mr. vance. vance: thank you austin and thank you microsoft, thank you senator murray. you and i have shown how i debate should be conducted during this campaign and most importantly thanks to the washington state debate

coalition the seattle city club and diane douglas. none of this would have happened without you. i hope the debate coalition grows and expands. folks we are coming to the end of one of the most disappointing and divisive elections in recent history. i am very concerned that after all of this the gridlock and dysfunction is going to continue in washington d.c.. i'm equally concerned about giving hillary clinton a blank check rubberstamp congress. i think we need independent voices in washington d.c.. we can't fix america's problems that we cannot continue to accept politics as usual, excuses and blind partisanship. electing the same people year after year, decade after decade will not change anything. if you want change you've got to vote for change. i will be a different kind of senator. i will work hard every day to

change the culture in washington d.c. to bring republicans and democrats together to solve our biggest problems. i will be an independent voice and never anyone's rubberstamp and i would be honored to have your vote. thank you and good evening. >> moderator: thank you to our candidates. if you have not yet already received your ballot in the mail you should expect to get it in the mail but this tuesday october 25. new washington state voters do have until october 31, that's halloween to register in person and if worse don't forget to vote by november 8. ballots must be postmarked or dropped in an approved box by election day. the drop boxes close promptly at eight a. m. on -- 8:00 p.m. election day performer permission to visit the web site. goodnight and please vote. [applause] ..

thank you for watching and goodnight. >> coming up tonight on c-span2 michelle obama joins hillary clinton on the campaign trail in winston-salem, north carolina. donald trump holds rally in springfield, ohio and battleground state of florida and its role in 2016. >> c-span's washington journal live every day with news and

policy issue that impact you. this week we are focusing on presidential battleground states leading up to election day and coming up to friday morning, ohio, we will take a look who the voters are, recent polling and latest on top races including the buckeye's state race. david, chair of the ohio democratic party and chair of the republican party. be sure to watch friday morning, join the discussion. >> later in the morning a panel of journalists dive into political rhetoric and presidential campaigns. that's live tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. eastern. earlier today michelle obama and hillary clinton on the campaign trail. she held a crowd in

winston-salem, north carolina. [music] [music]

[cheers and applause] [music] >> hello winston-salem. hello, lake forest. [cheers and applause] >> it is so great to be here in this beautiful city at this extraordinary time and -- [cheers and applause] >> to have a chance to be with so many including the wake forest family. [cheers and applause] >> and it doesn't get any better than being here with our most

amazing first lady, michelle obama. [cheers and applause] >> i want to thank -- i want to thank everyone who has filled this arena and i specially want to thank dr. hatch and the staff team and students at wake forest university. i will never forget visiting here with the legendary maya angalou, one of the most powerful voices our country has ever heard so i cannot think of a better place to come back to with another woman whose voice we need now more than ever. [cheers and applause]

>> i want to say what i think is obvious but can't be said enough, and that is this maybe one of the most, if not the most important elections of our lifetime, no matter our age, but for young people, it will be so consequential because every election is about the future and this one is about whether we build on the progress we've made, the legacy that president obama has built or rip it away and go backwards. [cheers and applause] >> so we have a lot of work to do and i don't mean just in the presidential race. let's be sure to elect roy cooper, the next governor of north carolina. [cheers and applause] >> he will always put the people of north carolina first and he

will repeal hb2. [cheers and applause] >> because he knows that discrimination is wrong. it's bad for business and it's against north carolina's values. [cheers and applause] >> and let's send debra ross to the united states senate. [cheers and applause] >> you know, she will be an independent voice for the working families of this state and she will help breakthrough the gridlock in washington and unlike her opponent, debra ross has never been afraid to stand up to donald trump. [cheers and applause]

and remember, it is not just roy's name and debra's name or my name that's going to be on the ballot. so much about what we care about, so much is at stake in the election is too, voting rights are at stake and if you care about this sacred right and want to make sure our leaders of both parties do their part to protect and strengthened it, not chip away at it, you've got to vote in this election, and so i hope after all north carolina has gone through with the efforts to suppress people's votes, you will turn out in the biggest numbers ever to say, no, we demand the right to vote. [cheers and applause] >> and supporting our veterans is at stake. [cheers and applause] >> if you believe that america

should stand with those who served because they served us, then you've got to vote. and so when you think about yourselves, your families, people you know who have worn the uniform of our country, the best way to make clear that we respect the military and we will do everything we can to make sure they and their families have what they need as they sacrifice for us is to show up and vote. [cheers and applause] >> and, you know, climate change is at stake. [cheers and applause] >> now, i shouldn't have to say this in 2016, but i will. if you believe in science, right? and you know that climate change

is real and demands action right now, you've got to show up and vote in this election. [cheers and applause] >> immigration is at stake, if you believe that we need to fix our broken system and keeps families together and get people who love america a pass to citizenship, you've got to vote. [cheers and applause] >> and you know marriage equality is at stake too. [cheers and applause] >> if you believe everyone deserves to be treated equally in america no matter who they are or who they love, then you've got to turn out and vote in this election. [cheers and applause]

>> good jobs that pay good wages are at stake, investing in our roads, in our bridges, water systems and all the work that needs to be done in our country, that really matters and we can put millions of people to work and have a more competitive economy. that's why we have proposed a very big job's program because i don't want anybody willing to work in this country not to have a good job with a rising income to support themselves and their families. [cheers and applause] >> if you believe that, then you've got to come out and vote. [cheers and applause] >> and particularly for all of the students here affordable college education is at stake. [cheers and applause] >> and not only that, relief from student debt that you

already have is at stake. [cheers and applause] >> so if you believe as we do that everyone should be able to afford to go to college and graduate and that everyone should have a chance to pay down and pay off your debt, then you've got to get out and vote in this election. [cheers and applause] >> and you know, dignity for women and girls -- [cheers and applause] >> again, i wish i didn't have to say this, right? but, indeed, dignity and respect for women and girls is also on the ballot in this election.

[cheers and applause] >> and i want to thank our first lady for her eloquent powerful defense of that basic value. [cheers and applause] >> so i think you're getting the idea here that i believe everything we care about is at stake in this election. so you've got to vote and get your friends and your families and your neighbors to vote too. and don't just take it from me, because i think you've heard some really compelling voices say the same thing and one of them is here with us today, right? [cheers and applause] >> there are so many things i admire about our first lady.

[cheers and applause] >> you know, michelle reminds us to work hard, stay true to our values, be good to one another and never ever stop fighting for what we believe in. [cheers and applause] >> she has spent eight years as our first lady, advocating for girls around the world to go to school and have the same opportunities as boys. [cheers and applause] >> she has worked for healthier childhoods for our kids here at home, better nutrition, more exercise and we are seeing the results. we actually have seeing kids who are healthier, something that she was determined to try to achieve.

she's encouraged more young people to go to college and follow your dreams and she has supported america's military families who served and sacrificed as well for our country. [cheers and applause] >> now, it hasn't been all hard work. she played a mean round car pool of kareoke and among the many real privileges i've had is to see the president and the first lady dance. [cheers and applause] >> wow, one would only hope. [laughter] >> now, she also planted an

amazing vegetable garden at the white house. i can promise you if i win, i will take good care of it, michelle. [cheers and applause] >> and, boy -- [laughter] >> thank you. >> and, boy, didn't she dazzle the world with that beautiful speech at the democratic national convention this summer? [cheers and applause] and, you know, i have now stood on the debate stage for four and a half hours with donald trump and if you see any of those debates, well, that has proved once and for all that i have to be president of the united states. [cheers and applause]

but there were times during those three debates when i will tell you, the loop running in my head was what michelle said to us at the convention, right? when they go low, we go high. and on top of all of this, just by being herself every day, never missing an opportunity to honor her parents for the hard work and sacrifices that set her on her way. she has shown every little girl and boy in america that there are no limits to what they can achieve if they work card and do right and believe in themselves. seriously, is there anyone more inspiring than michelle obama?

and maybe it's specially, specially meaningful to me because i do know something about being first lady of the united states. [cheers and applause] and, you know, i'm going to state the obvious, it's not easy. you've got so many people counting on you. you've got the eyes of the world on you and when you're trying to raise your children as she is and i did and give them the space and support they need to have that normal and safe and fulfilling childhood as possible, that makes it even harder. you know, i use today hang out in the main room just to be sure i got to see her and see, you know, what happened that day and try to figure out, you know, what i needed to be thinking about in doing for her. and let's be real, as our first african-american first lady she

has faced pressures i never did. [cheers and applause] >> and she's handled them with pure grace. [cheers and applause] >> by any standard, she has been an outstanding first lady who has made us all so proud. and she and the president, she and the president have been such wonderful friends to me and my family. it's meant the world, the world to me. it really has and i want to say just one more thing about the first lady's work, i mentioned the military families, she's been their fierce champion and military families have come up

against a lot in this election. it just made me boil when donald trump disrespected a gold star family, mr. and mrs. khan. he still hasn't apologized to them. he actually made it worst, just yesterday he said again if america had only made him president years ago, their son captain khan would still be alive. honestly, i don't understand how anyone would want to rub salt in the wounds of a grieving family. and he keeps insulting our military. yesterday when he heard that a retired army colonel and former dean of the army war college said that donald doesn't understand military strategy, trump said, i will teach him a

couple of things. well, actually, donald, you're the one who has a lot to learn about the military and everything else that makes america great. [cheers and applause] >> starting by learning about the dignity and sacrifice about the men and women in uniform and their families and he should learn from michelle obama how a leader supports them, not disrespects them. [cheers and applause] >> so no one knows more about what's at stake in this election than our first lady because all the progress that we've achieved under president obama's leadership is at stake. he pulled our economy out of the biggest ditch that it was in when he became president. [cheers and applause] >> he saved the auto industry. he cracked down on wall street.

he has tackled health care, education, climate change, civil rights and so much else, and all the work that we've done to strengthen our relationships with other countries and secure our leadership in the world is also at stake. now, i for one and i hope all of you do not want that hard work by our president and our first lady and millions of americans to be wiped away. we cannot let that happen. we've got to do everything in our power to get everyone out to vote, to understand no matter what issue you care about, it truly is on the ballot. now, this has been a hard election at times it's gotten pretty ugly, hasn't it? and we've all felt it specially kids. i hear this from parents and children across our country. kids write me notes, they hand

me little cards and notes when i shake hands with them, their participants write me, teachers talk to me, kids are scared, kids are scared by the rhetoric. i see the educators' heads nodding. it makes them feel terrible and doubt themselves and that's why it's important for voices like our first lady's to stand up and say, wait a minute, respecting women and girls is important and is specially important to send that message to our children, boys and girls aligning. our kids are actually scared they're going to be sent out of the country because their parents are immigrants or they're immigrants. they're scared if their muslim or they have a disability. i've got a letter from a parent, a mom in wisconsin, i think, who adopted her son felix, he turned 11 year's old.

he wrote my campaign to let me know that he was 11 year's old. i love it when kids do birthday remembrances. america is the only country he's ever known. and one day he turned to his mom and he asked, if donald trump becomes president, is he going to make me go back to ethiopia? now that honestly breaks my heart. we have to make sure all of our kids know that america has a place for you. the american dream is big enough for you. [cheers and applause] >> and then we've got to make sure they learn the right lessons about how to treat people. i saw that sign, i believe in love and kindness, right? [cheers and applause] >> here is one place to start. we know that bullying is a real problem in our classrooms, our playgrounds and online and teachers have reported that this

election has made it worse. i want you to know, we are going to launch a major new effort to help states and communities and schools and families end bullying wherever it takes place. [cheers and applause] >> and we will work together to make the internet a safer space for kids. invest in frontline professionals like guidance counselors and social workers and school nurses and psychologists to support kids who have been targeted like the young woman i met in iowa who told me she was bullied because of her asthma. this has got to stop and i can't think of anything more important than making sure that every single one of our children they are loved just as they are. [cheers and applause] >> so ultimately, my friends as

michelle reminds us, this election is about our kids and in my case, my grandkids, their lives and their futures, nothing is more important than that. i've been fighting for kids throughout my career, i will fight for them every single day of my presidency, so we have a job to do, starting right now let's come together, let's work together and let's be hopeful and optimistic and unified in the face of division and hate. bring people together in a spirit of mutual respect to solve shared challenges. let's have each other's backs, lift each other up not tear each other down. let's go out and win this election to make sure we do exactly that for roy cooper, debra ross and all of us, let's make sure you vote early. vote as you as you can.

vote this afternoon. i'm excited about what we are going to see happen here in north carolina and i am so excited to be introducing our amazing first lady, michelle obama. [cheers and applause] >> whoa. well, hey there. you guys are pretty fired up, right? [cheers and applause] >> i like that. i like that. wow.

so let me -- let me start, of course, because hillary's, you know, many tributes to me was taken me off, has thrown me a little bit. it's very generous, but i just want to take this moment publicly to thank hillary. i mean, it takes a level of generosity of spirit to do what hillary has done in her career and her life for our families, for this nation. [cheers and applause] >> and people wonder, yes, hillary clinton is my friend. she has been a friend to me and barack and malia and sasha and bill and chelsea have been bracing and supportive from the very day that my husband took the oval office.

so i am grateful for hillary and for her leadership and courage and for what she is going to do for this country. so it's going to be good. i want to take time to recognize your former senator kayle hagen who is here and again i want to lend my voice to your outstanding candidate debra ross. [cheers and applause] >> as hillary said, she's someone who cares deeply about the people in this state and she is always going to put your family first. so let's make debra your next u.s. senator, all right? [cheers and applause] >> and let's make roy cooper your next governor, how about that? [cheers and applause] >> thanks also to all the members of congress who are

joining us and your mayor alan joins. thank you, mayor. but more importantly, thank you to all of you for taking the time, waiting in line to be here today to help us support the next president and vice president of the united states, hillary clinton and tim kaine. [cheers and applause] >> i don't know about you but i'm fired up. [cheers and applause] >> we are going to make this happen. now, you may have noticed that i have been doing some campaigning for hillary. [laughter] >> and i know that there's some folks out there who have commented that it's been unprecedented for a sitting first lady to be so actively engaged in a presidential campaign. and that may be true, but what's also true is that this is truly an unprecedented election.

and that's why i'm out here. [applause] >> i'm out here first and foremost because we have never had a more qualified and prepared candidate for president than our friend hillary clinton. never before in our lifetime. [cheers and applause] >> i say this everywhere i go, i admire and respect hillary. she has been a lawyer, a law professor, first lady of arkansas, first lady of the united states, a u.s. senator, secretary of state. [cheers and applause] >> she has -- >> hillary, hillary! hillary! hillary! >> yeah, that's right. hillary doesn't play. [laughter]

>> she has more experience and exposure to the presidency than any candidate in our lifetime, yes, more than barack, more than bill. so she is absolutely ready to be commander in chief on day one and, yes, she happens to be a woman. [cheers and applause] >> this election is also unprecedented because i don't think we've ever had two candidates with such dramatically different visions of who we are and how we move forward as a nation. one candidate has a vision that is grounded in hopelessness and despair, a vision of a country

that is weak and divided where our communities are in chaos, our fellow citizens a threat. this candidate calls on us to turn against each other, to build walls, to be afraid. and then there's hillary's vision for this country. [cheers and applause] >> as you just heard, a vision of a nation that is powerful and vibrant and strong, big enough to have a place for all of us, a nation where we each have something very special to contribute and where we are always stronger together. [cheers and applause] >> that is the choice we face between those who divide this country into us versus them and those who tell us to embrace our

better angels and choose hope over fear. and as we look into the eyes of our children, as we send them off to school each morning and tuck them into bed at night, as hillary said, the stakes in this election could not be more clear. and let me tell you, this is not about republicans versus democrats, none of that matters this time around. no, no, this election is about something much bigger. it's about who will shape our children and the country we leave for them, not just for the next four or eight years, but for the rest of their lives. [cheers and applause] >> because as hillary pointed out, we all know, we know the influence our president has on our children, how they turn on the tv and they see the most

powerful role model in the world. someone who shows them how to treat others, how to deal with disappointment, whether it's to tell the truth, they're taking it all in. and as hillary said, when you've raised children in the white house like barack and hillary and i have, you were reminded every day of the impact that you have. you start seeing the images of every child in this country in the face of your child. so when people wonder how hillary keeps her composure through the overwhelming pressure from not just this campaign but of her career or how barack and i have dealt with the glare of the national spotlight in the last eight years, that's the answer. with every action we take, with every word we utter, we think about the millions of children

who are watching us, who hang onto our every word, looking to us to show them who they can and will be and that's why every day we try to be the find of people, the kind of leaders that your children deserve, whether you agree with our politics or not. [cheers and applause] >> and when i think about this election, let me tell you, that is what i'm thinking about. i'm asking myself what do my girls, what do all of our children deserve in their president? what kind of a president do we want for them? well, to start with, i think we want someone who is a unifying force in this country, someone who sees our differences not as a threat, but as a blessing.