>> >> i talked to a couple of different people. was a crazy? yes but there was the debate

summit was a news campaign not like wall-to-wall ads for one year. >> i am with the school of communication we have heard trump recently claimed of poles are ranked also clinton is leading in most of them and listen today that was on friday before the fbi staff broke but what they'll talk about there is some concern of the public trust of the polling going forward with the trump saying that this is rigged rigged, as though do you

have any concern of the public trust going forward by. >> is easy to say everything is fine but paris is a chance that we sample people wrong and also the clinton voters there is of a chance. some of the advisers can go either way. in the polls were showing that clinton was ahead. but let's consider the other alternative.

that the polls are rigged. could you come out quick said told you they were. so this is all possible. that is what concerns me the most. if they don't trust the polls they should be skeptical of anything. i don't like people questioning by industry. but to say that democracy is not working. that is what keeps me up at night talking about voter fraud. that might be broken but i don't think democracy is broken. >> again to be a horse race

so questions about what they feel about their economic situation and what tells us more. >> but six months ago the polls were not predictive of any thing they are to be illustrative. >> casals said there is a bigger problem. [laughter] >> we have time for one more question. >> i and a huge fan of the show but looking beyond the election, what do you think of how the government uses pulling for policy-making and other than the horse race?

use the congressional candidates using the poling also criticizing and do you think there is opportunity for the government to review policy correct. >> because tuesday that it needs to be gutted and even with that skepticism but the adn that it is fiscally responsible to slash the budget that enables us to take the huge federal budget to spend it more efficiently drives me crazy. i like to have that good data to make policy decisions in this so-so so important for quite understand if they have genuine concerns of their own privacy with the government asking invasive questions understand those

but would it is simply government slashed funding ises so important my party is the efficient government to make evidence based decisions that is so important with that spirit to the other point of members of congress using polling. there is a tendency to say why are they pull tested? but they are making stuff up or that the voters will just come side of.

that is why they have the better idea than actual constituents. but this is a way for people to say to their constituents >> first of all thank to public affairs for the help tonight and especially to our pollsters. [applause] recovering. we do have copies of the books for sale and also if you have any follow-up questions. [applause] [inaudible conversations]

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but. >> moderator: news 12 long island congressional debate. welcome to the island vote special. we will talk with the two candidates running for the third congressional district

that includes uh townships this city of glenn close even a portion of queens. let's meet the candidates running with the democratic line with from national county executive to terms prior to that tom suozzi was the mayor 2004 through 2001. jack martin says saw a number of proposed combined current is serving the third term in the state senate also the former mayor from 2003 through 2010 thanks for being here gentlemen so here are the rules and the format . each candidate will have one minute for the opening statement is to have to an end have to answer each question and 30 seconds for rebuttal. at the end of the debate both candidates of of one minute closing statements.

made the begin with senator martin's. martins: thanks for toasting this debate. i am jack martin's i miss a senator a business owner father of four daughters samite so many of you are country is headed in the wrong direction the economy is stagnant, terrorism on the rise in america is divided. people are frustrated and angry and so in my. flu taking the leaders who are willing and able to solve four problems as us senator ahead led issues all of long island to protect for structure protecting the environment to help grow and succeed and i will do the same washington by focusing on what unites us instead of what divides us we can look together to find better ways toward for america.

that is why i am running for congress. >> our country is very -- facing very serious challenges. that's my friends and family members say why do want to run for congress? i don't believe that. i believe in the system of government if there are people of good will democrats and republicans to work together to solve the problems. the reality is to change the status quo a very powerful force the way it is our have done that throughout my entire career. democrats as well as republicans in the state legislature so with the

property-tax cap we ultimately succeeded to get the funds. that is why of the legal conservation i have proven from my career i will fight to end the status quo to serve the people that i represent. thank you. >> moderator: right to the questions. nassau county blaise rocked by those federal corruption charges. was then one year after the senate majority leader and the speaker were convicted on corruption charges there are other examples across the state and around the country. if elected to congress, it mr. suozzi what led you do to crack down on corruption and also restore the trust of so many cannot feel with their elected officials? suozzi: this is a very sad thing right now in our country. back in 2003 at the time

realize more people were indicted in the state legislature and have lost their jobs at the polling booth and half of those to be held accountable. politics when doesn't work without competition. you have to hold people accountable. if the light they can do whatever they want to do. how is that the united states congress have a 95% reelection rate? we need to have competition to hold people accountable in a robust political system . many to hold people accountable if you are convicted of a of crimea should forfeit your pension there are so many things that we need to do but it is up to the public to pay attention to be involved for

the republican primary after go to the right the only way to hold officials accountable is to put an end to make competitive race to defend their positions and to a good job. martins: and starts with having a zero tolerance for corruption and public office for by called on the county executive to resign and the county supervisor to resign behalf to have accountability first and foremost. one is to have those politicians that are convicted before they're allowed to finish their term we have to maintain that integrity first and foremost also consistently to make sure that those who are convicted of crimes there is

no way a person convicted of a crime was violated the public trust should have the ability to collect a pension they forfeit the right when they committed the crime. it goes beyond that look at money in politics, with the influence of money and frankly we have to make it much more transparent. some of those rules are circumvented with the advertisements and campaigns where they influence the elections. we have to cut to the chase and we have to restore integrity which means holding everyone accountable and plan they are convicted to put themselves in a position that they have to resign. >> moderator: the next topic is taxes.

pdf some criticize the county executive is raising taxes but the same for you senator martins so the question is to senator martin's why did they believe a case said you to washington you will cut taxes by. >> when i was elected mayor pet town was literally bankrupt it had happened million dollars shortfall with reserves. $43 million in debt and 23 million was short-term and rehab to have short-term debt into long-term debt. we restructure the finances and when i was elected to the senate we paid down the debt from 33 billion down a 20 billion that is one-third . we have the village heading in the right direction to everybody understood what they were paying an debris

did the master plan to put it on firm footing because of redevelopment in downtown into can see that happening right now. there is a difference. we took a very bad situation with the trust of the public erastus to represent, i was elected and then reelected 2005 and 2007 and again 2009 by the very same voters who trusted us to make a difference. we did. bizarre restructuring and getting things done with those eight years that served they are better off than a when we left from one make got there i am not sure congress can say the same thing. >> moderator: while he was serving as the mayor human accounting executive and also by should voters believe he would be a tax cutter was? suozzi: i will not criticize jack for raising taxes will rise blood negative raising

the salary by 61 percent but he is a hypocrite because he attacked me for raising property taxes in nassau county would be berger the worst campaign america before i got there. he is describing the villages will campaign is based on raising property taxes. summit is a hypocrisy he would criticize me for that exact same thing he did. as the county executive i was reelected by a huge margin by the same people provide all property taxes are killing people iran for governor of new york state. i saw property taxes scratching - - crushing people i saw that the one year later with in your

state commission on property tax relief i wrote the report and what we had to do to address that problem and that was the property tax cap which i am very proud also a member of the legislature to have a powerful interest to have that captain york city. martins: he will be taking credit for the tax cap like al gore taking credit for the internet it was in there before in the fact that we can pull that consensus together and frankly it is the testament to our hard-working and albany but there is the heating bill tax, taxes coming gimmicks and frankly those were put in place in 2001 that mr. suozzi was tasked to get rid of. and then he was voted out of office and he needs to take responsibility for that mr.

suozzi i am proud of my record during the course of my time we had 13 bond referendums more than any other municipality independent agencies say return to the county around. interface though worst recession since the great depression and of course, people are angry and upset i never should have done that energy package and i paid for that i've lost the race i've learned my lesson but the people of nassau county that is better than the problems embracing before. >> moderator: abbey will hear from media and facebook wanted to be part of the debate. >> en obamacare. coverage is worse. >> the bios did say premiums could go up as much as 25% with the mid-level plans.

mr. suozzi if you are elected hard to redress the future of the affordable care act? suozzi: there are more serious problems with obamacare. more people that are covered than ever before, children are covered through 26 years old under their parents' plan, you cannot deny for coverage of pre-existing conditions but while the republicans in congress want to repeal the act they have repealed that i want to amended don't end it. and then we need to work in the compliance with obamacare position is a rotten and a terrible bureaucracy from my career i will fight powerful forces even my own party when necessary to make changes on behalf of the people that i served.

i will amend it, not and it will need to consult more. because if you're launching that status quo with those powerful forces right now with health insurance companies in the pharmaceutical drug companies don't want that to change to draft the affordable care act and the first place someone to stand up. but i am willing to stand up to fight those powerful forces on behalf of the people that i served. >> to say that obamacare should be repealed. >> i think it needs to be but obamacare is the unmitigated disaster i often wonder why mr. suozzi is an apologist and supported it and to liberalize he actually made money when he

vote tells people how to comply with that when small businesses are raked over the call as they pay more in premiums summer making more money to consult with those businesses how to comply. it is that complexity of the law and here we are several years later premiums are going up double digits again this year and it did last year. with incredible deductibles deductibles, co-payments through the roof, the panels are getting smaller the choices are evaporation and people are angry and they should be. we do have an alternative to expanding insurance online them to buy across state lines giving tax credits to buy insurance that suits them. right now they have to buy off the menu i have to buy

the coverage that i would never need including postnatal care. did i understand to simplify to get the tax credits to put the emphasis where it needs to be on the individuals to make decisions for themselves and their families. suozzi: item no breyer, up with this but the reality is i not an apologist asset the same thing publicly so many times that they have so many problems that need fixed and we need to work together to solve these problems to make people's lives better. not to play petty little games to say i apologize because i made money. the reality is i worked in a firm that helped want with the affordable care act there is no question about that. >> i will not take 30 seconds but we have

discussed this issue he has spoken in time and again we do have montaigne party has said the success how it has ben and needs to be tweet out important it is that we keep it there. to me that is being apologists i will not retract my statement he knows very well he made money and the complexity of obamacare and will not own up to that. >> moderator: going to foreign policy. what is the most significant threat the u.s. faces to national security right now? had to address that? >> if radical islamic terrorism continues to be the great threat to be manifested losses see in the conflict of the middle east between iraq and iran and yemen and saudi arabia syria

used the than in syria and yemen and the migration between above middle east into europe and the united states and we have seen the taxes. people are concerned because there is such volatility because the united states has taken a backseat of the world stage so we see atrocities happening around the world in ways and we have never imagined before to restore stability in the batiste fear that economic pressure and israel as first and foremost, to provide the stability but also here at home education and transparency when it comes to identifying but also talk

about refugees coming into the country. that when people do come here that we keep our communities safe. >> moderator: the most significant threat for national security right now? martins: unquestioned terrorism is a significant threat as a result of terrorism and the war's where 60 million refugees from the entire world right now because of civil war or wars we have been involved with your clients exchange. suozzi: by cannot understand where they're not understanding the history. tinnitus states of america supported also led the modern with the support

again afghanistan and. may be some dog hussein and the syrians and we still support the saudis even a bad day philosophy to kill the jewish people. by have redone this? because we are dependent on foreign oil for so long we have to agree so we're not dependent with those members of the muslim community for those who are trying to kill us. into britain's the state of israel. we need to confess there the closest and best friend.

>> so what could be done on a federal level from falling into l.i. greg. >> understand what happened but the reality is at the same time at the same time of toxic content sert similar to heroin but the production of heroin brew by leaps and bounds by central american and afghanistan and greasy that to be a cash crop so people were addicted to opioids at the same time their production was increasing and is cheaper than ever before. we need to continue to do enforcement efforts to recognize that drug and dr. dr. hall and mental health issues are all related and

based upon drugs in dhaka and metal 75% to people in jail are drugs are a call or mental health those family dysfunctions are drug or call mental-health. i've had closest friends die because of the drug overdose misses an epidemic of alignment. ready to start educating kids that got young age especially with mental health in our schools to make sure that we understand the dangers of this destructive drug. with the federal government has encouraged prevention as a young age as a collaboration with government agencies. >> what could be done on a federal level to stop the drugs from falling into our communities? martins: carol lynn epidemic is by far the greatest challenge we have.

there isn't a single community that has not been impacted. retractable this issue and pass legislation to have the privilege to carry a legislation that requires that schools teach about heroin and drug abuse sadden early age because it starts early behalf to make sure they understand stop treating the condition along with enforcement but federally there has to be the opportunity to stop that from coming into our community and the country. we have to make sure we have the care necessary so those who do succumb to a addiction have a pathway out i have had the opportunity unfortunately to meet with families who are dealing with the crisis right now. the one thing we don't have

enough facilities long-term care facilities. we did with 150 beds in place as recently as 2003. but unfortunately the county executive decided to close those facilities after he was told there was a heroin addiction epidemic on the horizon now we have less than half the beds now we have the ability to refocus we have the money and they took it away and that is the fact we can discuss details and dates i can get into those 50 knows i am right and people out there do as well. suozzi: one of the things i am most proud of was to create a program that took different agencies of social services mental-health physically challenged veterans come to merge them together in one building so

somebody showed up for assistance they could access of all the different agencies. specifically my endorsement was the work that i did of the relation to mental-health early win this for starters, l.i. >> moderator: we will be that there antiphon to closing statements. martins: thanks again for hosting this debate. this election specifically at this time in our country's history is about the opportunity to understand as we all do the country is headed to the wrong direction. the future it is bleaker whiff and frankly things are continuing to get worse when the people who will show leadership by have shown leadership in the past six years and before that as the mayor to tackle those tough issues that our important to was whether the environment

environment, our water, here when, cutting taxes and helping small businesses succeed is where i have fled from the front. not from the backcourt talking about it but actually showing real results. people have the choice to decide if we take this country in the right direction or to double down to continue to support the same policies for our will take us in a different direction and i'm asking for your vote november 8. suozzi: you never showed danish ship when they were indicted nq defended him as majority leader. price still believe in the united states of america in this country if we can get good things done democrats and republicans to work together to solve problems. to do that we have to take the most powerful interest

to retake the status quo from the way it is now. i have proven i can take on democrats and republicans to fight for what i believe is necessary for those people that i represent the medicaid caps there are so many other battles that i have one and that i have lost but this country can have bright days ahead to have people to work together across party lines not playing political games or negativity but to work with each other to solve problems pdf. >> thanks for joining us. just a reminder election day is tuesday november 8 get out and vote this is available on-line. you can watch a the complete debate on channel 12. thanks for watching this election special.

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a. >> when i was democratic chair of california who used to give people a dozen donuts for voting. you take take your devoe in a doughnut shop and certain key briefings you would get an extra voter turnout and you get a free doughnut. a dozen free donuts. >> there are a lot of places if you come in with your i voted sticker in a lot of places you can get free stuff. >> which way to dog owners lean? >> well that's a good point. i would think if you play with

puppies you are in anymore rights person. that's what i think. how about this coming up later this month am a i will be celebrating a birthday november 29 is her birthday. she's going to turn 117 years old. assuming she makes it to november 29. >> oh, come on. c i'm not trying to be dark red i'm just saying she could make it to 117 if she makes it an extra two months. how did she live to be so long? this is ice the first question i ask. >> probably urban and cigars. >> you are not far off. she eats two eggs every day and she says quote i eat cookies. she says for the eggs she eats maraud. a doctor told her decades ago that eating raw eggs would help her with her anemia but she says she likes the cookies so she

eats is. raw eggs and cookies. >> together? >> i don't know if together. have you ever done the whole rotten ag thing? >> now matt, have you? >> there's an old bar where if you had the breakfast beer they would have a carton of eggs at the end of the bar. you an ag in your beer. >> that it is still in a raw ag. here we go, 14 minutes after the hour now. so, let's start with the fact that donald trump says how bad this james comey is, it's the worst thing we have ever seen in american politics. >> this is the biggest scandal since watergate. hillary wants to blame everyone

else for her mounting legal troubles but she has brought all of this on herself. >> the biggest scandal since watergate. is that what you are reporting on? >> you would never expect a man like donald trump to overstate anything. it's crazy. first of all if he had any knowledge of history he would know that is not chair and second of all he is making a big deal out of it and this whole james comey announcement really played into his pocket. he was looking like he was down and now he has new ammunition and he has been lacking hillary clinton over this day in and day out. some of the polls this morning have shown a softening for her which may or may not have started before the comey announcement but really he has got some issue now to work with.

>> the lead story from "huffington post" today points out that the largest dent the headline is trick-or-treat, the focus has shifted from hillary to comey particularly on the russian connection because it seems from leaks in the fbi that there is, okay may have just discovered this, a trove of hillary e-mails or oma abedin e-mails but meanwhile there's an ongoing investigation into the trump campaign with connection to russia. there are kinds of levels of possible russian connections. work is through some of this. >> first. >> first of all you have trump's former campaign chairman paul manafort has all these ties to ukraine in pro russian separatists there that they are investigating. there is a purported server

trump organization server, that is making some kind of contact with russian banks. you have got all these different ties. trump's own finances, we don't really know what's in them. here's been touting putin on the trail and there's all these different strands. >> you have roger stockham clearly with the connection to julian assange and wikileaks. he knows what the wikileaks is talking about ahead of time. the john podesta e-mails and intelligence agencies are getting all of these attack e-mails from sources close to the russian government and so you combine all of that and then comey according to leaks from the fbi, they would not talk about any of the trump russia related stuff because it might be seen as interfering in this election. that is the part i don't

understand. comey reportedly earlier this year made the decision not to come forward and tell the american public about this investigation out of concern that it would unfairly influence the election and came out last week and said he was restarting this e-mail investigation and basically deciding that one was more important than the other. i still don't understand his reasoning there. i think he might be, it he might be trying to cover himself later on. >> you can say cover your house on c-span. >> sorry, c-span. >> they say worse on c-span. some of the shows of brian lamb 's on c-span, yeah.

congressman adam schiff is the ranking member of the intelligence committee and the implications of what comey did. >> with the beer was calling transparency they will have a different word for later and it will be mistaken this is where we have now been led to i thank what will go down as a colossal mistake by the bureau. >> because it injects into the partisan political gain. and the justice department. >> to make matters worse the justice department is totally gone and no one has heard from them. loretta lynch obviously made the mistake or self meeting with bill clinton on the tarmac and the tarmac meeting that trump is hammering about and now she has chosen not to intervene. she is comey's boss and she could have said something and so you have that playing at any had

the fbi is leaking more than the titanic right now. it's a way to run a campaign off fbi leaks. she seems to have competing interests in the fbi. one hour you have one leak leg and the other hour you have another leak so there is a whole lot of moving parts and it doesn't appear to be slowing down. >> only seems to be out of control. >> he has lost control. >> lost control that's right and it doesn't seem likely he's going to come out and clarify what the investigation is about. he is kind of in a if you do, if you don't position right now. >> you are in the bill press show tuesday november 1. "the huffington post" and you are welcome to join the conversation. 86655-press if you think this will have any impact either way on this election and what day

this week is it week is that the donald trump is going to release his tax returns? >> there are four days left here. we will be right back. >> that light at the end of the tunnel is the bill press show. >> what is? >> that is for the podcast. that is what the podcast is going on on. >> here's the thing so saturday and sunday spent a good chunk of the day cleaning it up on top because there were wild hairs everywhere. >> when he finished to do notice that it was bad or did you wake up in the morning and go oh my god?

>> i didn't notice until much later the next day. i got in front of the mirror and i said that's a. it's a long hairdo. yeah, it was bad. >> so we want to ask caine -- >> kaine: , comey and early voting. >> e, definitely.

[background sounds] >> that's not a bad thing to make a little news on. >> what is? >> the transit workers truckers in philadelphia. >> are they out how? >> i think they are out today.

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>> hey, all right. our printer has never gotten so much airtime. >> another tweak copy, hp. [laughter] >> all right, now i can talk. i've got coffee. >> you have now, there you go. popeye needs his spinach. >> all right, here we go. >> this is the bill press show. >> 26 minutes after the hour now at the half-hour we will be joined by senator tim kaine democratic candidate for vice president out on the campaign trail. i'm not sure exactly where he is today but we will catch up with

him and get his latest take particularly on the fbi and comey's announcement last friday. i wanted to ask you about what the site yesterday that the cleansing campaign, some people thought as a way of getting focus on the e-mails they released the so-called daisy ad where the woman who was the little girl back in 1964 comes forward again saying we never thought or she never thought her kids would have to worry about the things they have to worry about in 1964. can you give us a little bit of that jamie? >> in 1964 the fear of nuclear war we had as children and never thought her children would ever have to deal with that again and to see that coming forward in this election is very scary. >> trump asked three times why

can't we use nuclear weapons? >> what safeguards are there to stop any president who may be not be stable? >> joe scarborough there the spokesperson against donald trump on this issue, very interesting. it's an issue that hasn't gotten as much attention as it deserved in the presidential election. >> i think that second ad is the same theme and i think another one was they got a former nuclear missile control guy out of minnesota to talk about the risk of having somebody like donald trump in charge of the button was really effective. it's not something that any campaign has ever said since lbj i guess so is a very visceral ad. people remember that ad and i

think, and as you said the timing was dead on and the fact that they were trying to shift the conversation. >> it raises the ultimate question about who do you want and who do you trust to have their finger on that button or close to the button even in the time. god forbid we have a serious threat of a nuclear strike against united states. >> we'll take a quick break and come back and welcome senator tim kaine. >> this is the bill press show. >> all right, i'm going to get out of here. i believe he is in madison, wisconsin by the way. we will find out for sure. >> sorry. >> he dresses up as met my --

probably. >> hey jamie. jamie. >> how are you doing, man? [inaudible conversations] >> just listen in and enjoy and we will talk about it after.

>> jamie, confirm madison wisconsin. confirm madison, wisconsin. is that where he is? okay. [background sounds] i have down here rochester. tomorrow tim kaine is in dubuque, iowa.

>> yesterday. [background sounds] >> okay. raleigh, durham?

he has an durham? [background sounds] >> he is on the line. >> your place to talk about the 2016 election. this is the bill press show. >> 33 minutes after the hour. this is the bill pressure live

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>> you are in rally durham and our friends at 92.1. senator i forgot to ask ask you where we conducting this interview in english or spanish? i wasn't sure. >> all in english. i'm going to give a campaign speech in spanish later this week in phoenix. i'm doing back-to-back events in phoenix. we will stick with english on this. >> i am glad we are solely english on this one. let me ask you the thing of course we have been talking about the last few days the announcement by fbi director james comey on friday. did he make a mistake senator in your opinion in raising this whole issue with 11 days to go in the campaign? >> well i will tell you bill and i note call me pretty well. he plays a key role in the district attorney's office when i was mayor of richmond. i have high regard for him but i'm very puzzled by this and i

think it's pretty clear that what he did is a violation of at least two really important protocols that the law enforcement team should follow and one is not talking about an ongoing investigation and second there is a clear long-standing pattern in the fbi and the justice department have not putting out information that can be politically controversial on the eve of an election and we know from reporting yesterday that director comey is very aware of both of those. he appeared before congress and the end of september and was asked questions about investigations into russian activity and compromising american election. i'm not going to confirm whether it's such an issue and 10 days later on the seventh of october a whole slew of national intelligence agencies put out a statement saying that they had their advisers that russia was

trying to engage in activity to influence the american election and comey would not fight back. he didn't disagree with the conclusion according to reports yesterday that the report was he didn't sign it because i don't want to put out controversial information right before an election. if there are those protocols and he understood them and has been following them why would he have broken both of them last friday? he had to immediately within a day to a 20 -- so i'm troubled by what appears to be a double standard and i have called upon the director to clarify why is there a double standard? >> do you believe, do you also believe that he broke the law as senator harry reid has suggested? >> hairy suggested that and i have not read this letter so i don't know the legal argument there and i have no opinion about that. but what i'm really focused on,

there are these two protocols and they are there for a reason. you don't talk about an ongoing investigation because what if it turns out there's nothing there and leaking information that someone is being investigated is itself harmful. on the thought that you may find there's nothing there, you don't talk about it while it's pending that's really an important principle, very important principle for a justice official in the second one is equally as important. don't inject into the closing of the campaign beat -- that people will use for puggle purposes. the letter that the director sent to congressional leaders and within minutes he was misrepresenting it and it was misrepresented that the fbi was reopening the investigation to hillary clinton which they are not and that's why you don't put that information out to right before an election. >> are you worried about what might be in these e-mails? what has hillary clinton told you or huma abedin told you

about these e-mails? >> i've spoken with hillary but not a must. i'm not worried about it for this reason. the fbi did such an extensive investigation on this matter months and months and months with a lot of manpower involved and huma was completely cooperative with them and gave them everything that she had and then they reached the conclusion that conclusion was a very unequivocal one. director comey testified to congress and said there is no reasonable prosecutor, not one would take this case for further and he was asked at the hearing about that strong conclusion and he said they reached that conclusion. given that they looked at this for so long and they reached a conclusion that was very unequivocal, hillary says fine look at anything you want but we don't expect anything to be different than the elaborate investigation.

>> i would love to have more time senator but i know you have got to run. another week to go. good luck luck in this final week and we will talk to you again soon i hope. >> i look forward to it. seven days of spring. >> again we are back in the studio in washington d.c.. we are joined also by van newkirk as staff writer for the atlantic. welcome back. it's good to see you. congratulations. you are pregnant. >> yeah. >> i remember the last time he came in april. senator tim kaine is in north carolina and you have been writing a lot about north carolina. we only have a few minutes. a lot of effort is in north carolina to suppress the vote. that's what it is really. any progress in that and how has

it impeded the vote or could it impact the vote a week from today? >> what we have seen in the early voting period are two different things that mean different things for democrats. we have seen the early voting turnout over the first couple of days and the first souls to the polls sunday actually increase twentyfold release for maui as seen from the early returns within those numbers the black turnout seems to have diminished. we can't tell what those are as a result of suppression efforts in some counties. that's what some people believe but it could be there's just a lack of enthusiasm among black voters after this date has tried to disenfranchise them for years on end. it would have some effect on motivation to vote. >> i want to come back that issue right away.

hillary clinton's, speaking for the campaign they are coming down hard on comey accusing him of a double standard. >> i found it interesting when he asked him whether he thought thought -- he didn't want to go there. he kind of dodged it. so i think they are trying to put pressure on him but they are not going so far as to call it down. >> i believe the hatch act violation is a stretch. to really violate the hatch act he would have to join the campaign and be part of the campaign. write a check to a candidate or something like that. >> the law requires whether comey had intent. >> there is no doubt that they have been able to shift the

focus here from hillary clinton or huma abedin to james comey. >> with a little help from comey. we have seen folks focusing on e-mails on the whole scandal more so than the disenfranchisement effort and i think that does have a potential to hurt voter turnout in a lot of these swing states. >> people are just so turned off by the whole thing? >> they are tired of everything in a sea motivation problem and early voting returns now so how will that affect motivation? >> on that question about the impact of this, it took them a while to get their act together in terms of the response to what's going on because it was such a bombshell and so unexpected. they didn't know what he had. nobody does.