there are hundreds and how much farmworkers, working families that now have access to permanent are primary health care that didn't have if before. >> time for closing statements. one mint each and by virtue of a coin toss, mr. huerta you go first. >> thank you for have us again. as i'm mentioned, my life has been dedicated to helping working families here in central valley. as a young negotiator, as a lawyer, representing women, who have been discriminated in the workplace because of their pregnant condition, as representing workers who have been denied employment because of a existing medical condition, helping workers regain lost wages. in california, on average, workers door doo privates of three or four thousand does because employers refuse pay overtime or break periods. i have dedicated my life and my

career to helping working families near the central valley. and i will go to washington and continue to fight for us here in the central valley and for all of californians because now that california is a great state. we live in a great community. yet we are the poorest congressional district-done were opoor nest the country in one of the richest agricultural economies in the country. >> congressman valadao. >> thank you for the opportunity. enjoyed this conversation we have had. i've worked my butt off for the last four years doing everything i can for the district. everything i've ever focus cussed on is to make sure the anymore central valley are happy. yes, we started off in a tough time but a when you have a representative in congress that makes an effort to go out the small communities to make sure cob city opportunity casework is taken care 0 so you see the story on tv about a veteran who is helped or family with social security issues is helped. that's been my goal in this time in congress is to make sure the people of central valley are

successful. if have focused on the issued that are most important and spend time on committees with ties to the central valley. everything i've done in hi office has been for the central valley. feel like my personal experience as a business owner, a farmer, and someone who has to deal with the regulations have to deal with the employment signed of it, has a better understanding to make sure if we're going to create jobs we have to attracted business and i feel i bring that to the table. >> there you have it. one after these two men will be representing the 21st 21st congressional district at the start of 2017. thank you for being here. we appreciate you take thing time and with you both the best of luck heading down the home stretch. >> coming up. >> for my colleague, we have cc24 in fresno i-jim scott here. we want to thank the candidates and thank you for spending time with us tonight, and as always, go out and make an informed decision at the polls on

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debate in new hampshire's crucial race for governor in our studio,'mam chris sununu and democrat colin van ostern. >> he said we need to inned. >> to score employ account points and imply aim genes expanded met okay is an absolute lie. >> to their high profile executive council votes. >> a lot of big issues in front of us that our next governor has to tackle. chris and i have had different points of views. >> even their real estate mays -- their resumes they don't see eye to eye. >> to compare my business background with colin's is comical at best. >> our debate begins right now. >> good evening. we want to welcome the candidates and thank them for come are to our studios and taking part in this important discussion of the issues and that matter most to you, the voters. >> the ground ruled. the candidates will each be

given a question and have one minute to responsibility, at the end of that minute the candidates and the viewers will hear an audio cue of the discussion and myself, your moderators, 30 second rebuttalled will be allowed. at then't of the do it be a the candidate give one minute closing statements. we're partnering with the open debate coalition, group dedicated to making debates better represent the people. and historic first tonight, tonight's debate will feature the top questions posed and rated by more than 120,000 voters in new hampshire and around the nation. >> we have got a lot of crucial issues we want to tackled but start with some of the charges we have seen in this increasingly contentious campaign in recent days. now, counselor sununu, you often highlight your business credentials especially your issue to pass -- and a new ad running on tv right now, you said you created hundreds of

jobs there, but today, the state democratic party and your opponent, citing a recent published record that says the resort has lost jobs expense our and your family took over operations there six years ago. they call your ad misleading and urged you to take it down. i'd like to give you a chance to respond them to. >> thank you for hosting us tonight. the fact that we have created job friday in our success is undeny able. we bought the company back from a california driven company. we moved all of those administrative jobs right here in the state as we relocalized. we developed restaurants, sold a lot of those aspects off. we developing a work fours housing project that tomorrow we'll be closing ton provide quality work force housing for employees in the heart of waterville valley. we relocate ordinary adaptive program which helps those with disi disabilities par take in regulation activities on the mountain. used to be run bay vermont group. now we localized. when it comes to creating jobs in waterville valley i havecrafted hundreds of jobs.

the skis is undeniable. the only resort on the east coast expanding itch just invested two $2 million in new trails, all new hampshire contractors and workers. the democrats like to play games, talk about anything they took avoid the real issues of what is going to be important. moving new hampshire forward out. skiing up deniable. i'm incredibly proud of it and incredibly proud of my team. >> congressman van ostern. >> that race is about how to move our state forward, and there are certainly elements of chris' management at waterville i think would be detrimental to us here in new hampshire. when chris -- when his family purchased waterville ski mountain five years ago, they've lost market care and cot jobs not create them. there are 62 jobs less now. whether it's new hampshire business review or public rayow, you gookle and learn more

yourself mitchell concern more is less about the jobs he cut is the fact that it's one thing to have someone who owns a ski rye sort oppose 0 a minimum wage but when you have a governor opposing a state minimum wage at all that's bad for the people of new hampshire. when you have a ski resort owner want to hold people's hours back in order to not give them health care that one thing but when you have a candidate for governor who voted to cut off fund are for birthed control and cancer screenings and cams for women that does real harm to people of the state and we need to focus on what to do november our state forward. >> mr. sununu. our discuss is undeniable. the only resort on the east coast investing and growing, creating jobs, moving the ball forward creating a new experience for employeed. colin likes to reference the internet. clearly, clearly colin von ostern does not understand how business works and entrepreneurship and how to grow jobs.

politicians like to talk about creating jobs, do the tours of the factories and that's well and good. i create jobs. live and breathe it every day and that's the stakeholder experience we need in the governor's office. >> moving forward, counseling van ostern, courage sununu brought ifdown years as a political operative but something you don't talk about much on the campaign trail. why is senate. >> i like to focus most on what matters to voters' lives and what we'll each do to help move our state and our state economy understand are forward. i'm pound of my ground, like governor jean shaheen. early in my career i worked in politics. governor lynch did as well. senator yell ayotte avis the governor -- ayottes a viewed the governor withshe ran. most of misexperience since i moved to new hampshire has been in the private sector. when we talk about creating jobs, i think that when i helped start southern new hampshire university others college for america. a dots employee and now almost 400.

i don't define success based on how many gobiids create. i defiant what die to help others succeed. thousands of students are getting a college degree without debt because of the program we built. i think that's something to be proud of. am proud of that work just i my like -- and i think it stands in stark contrast to cutting jobs and holding back people from getting health, inn. >> colin avoided the question. in his short career, over ten years was spent as a paid political operative. as a professional trained in being partisan and divisive and crafting those message wes see on television all the time. the negativity. that's the kind of politic wed don'ted in here. when colin yip was working for jean shaheen i was clean inning landfills. when he was working for the academy praters are party party if worse building a resort form families with diairports. the question its want to ask

colin when app when he was working for john edwards, do do you complain to the women of new hampshire, being the spokesperson of the like odd someone like john edwards, the things in our ground are backgrounds and need to be excelsed in an open way. >> couple? >> i think what voters care about theirs lives and what re we'll do for. what i say to the women of new hampshire i have 100% of the time supported funding planned parenthood in our statement if didn't vote to set off billing control and cancer screening and annual exam fundings. i'm the one who over the past year want it making wait lists at the manchester health center send from three weeks to five weeks after the fun wags shut off. those are the issue that wouldmast this isn't about politics. this about people's lives. way raised bay single moment ill know what it's like to live without health insurance and this not about politics. it matters. >> thank you, gentlemen. >> you set nix to each other on the five member executive council and i was there last month when it was a unanimous

vote in favor of a $36 million state contract to staff new hampshire hospitals. days later we learned that there could be large layoffsties on this year. council sununu you called for the contract to be re-bid and called for an investigation. counselor van ostern you disagree with him on that. it's ban big topic is in campaign. just today, though, counselor sununu you brought up the fact that counselor van ostern received some $50,000 in campaign donations from hitchcock and employees that work there and you seem to question whether those contributions may have influenced his original vote but also his stance since then. >> mr. van ostern, like to get your response to that. >> what matters to me is doing right by the patients there. the contract that we bow bothed and i presume choice chris support evidence it for the same rei dinned means more doctors

and more beds availability. folks at the new hampshire hospital, 7,000 enrolled in the last three years, most are there because they have a mental ill unless that makes them danger to terms of others. that's not a statistic for toe me. one of the silver lines of the drug crisis is we started to break down the still na and bring addiction out of the shadows and need to do that it with mental health, too. my stepfather struggled with mental health for years and his final months in life he was found to be a danger to himself and others. when i was a sophomore in high school he took his own life and the reality is that patients and healthcare professionals, loved ones, doctors, nurses, that's the reality they face every dave at our state hospital and need a governor that will put what is right for the parents ahead of the political attack. >> colin has complete live avoided the question. the fact -- with an cowling nor this contract to re-bid for months, and red flag after red flag has come up.

employee concerns, major resignations. when we were finally left with very little choice we did move forward on it, only the next day to find out that there were potentially 450 layoffs coming. again, followed by resignations and red flags and i just learned this morning we have 40 plus thousand dollars, whatever it was, of contributions directly from that organization, directly to colin van ostern, and i've wondered why? why is that the governor and colin are so hesitant to do anything? they sat on their handers while at the rest of us stood up and demanded accountability. this if mismanagement at its worst in the mental health system. they need our utmost accountability and need the checks and balances and the need to make sure we're providing a system working for. the. again, the for and colin, the commissioner, have completely failed on this issue. colin can try to side step it but eventually the truth has to catch um and we need answers, accountability, the contract should be re-bid elm re need

more investigations. we need look into these issues because it's not about us. it's about the sensitivity and the quality of services four our mental health parents. >> for the first six month office this year we halt a new psychiatric care wing, ten beds that sat unused. despite the fact we had dozens of people with serious psychiatric conditions waiting in ers and waiting lists across the state. usually from 30 to 50 a day. the ron it was unused is because we couldn't find the staff to fill it and as we started to move forward toward this contract we hired more doctors, more nurses, the beds are now full on most days. and the fact is that what counselor uknew enough isopropylsing now -- remember, just a month ago, he voted, like i did, and all the counselors did to move forward with the contract because it means belter care, but what he signaturing now would mean less doctors and less nurses and we would struggle to have the wing open and i won't let political attacks stand in the way. >> how would be have less doctors by providing builder

choice? we had one bid are because the commissionerrers, the governor, yourself, would do nothing to provide more choices. choice is always a good thing for the people of new hampshire. that's the kind of demand i want, not just in mental health system but in every contract we have. the fact you have taken $40,000 brings into the question of ethics, morality and checks and balances. are we going to have a governor that puts politics first and the dollars in his campaign first? i say absolutely not. this is new hampshire. we need to do it the new hampshire way, not what see down in washington with the big, us live political attack, the big money going into people's pockets. we need campaign finance reform and accountability. >> counselor van ostern. >> imimpressed he managed to include ugly hill cat attacks he has taken tend of thousands of dollars from them biggest utility company in the state while we sat next todd on the council against solar energy pro. he said, once, quote dent want

to peoplize the electric utility. hi brothers run a lobbying and -- >> they're not lobbyist -- >> and the vote inside favor of they're clients -- >> i'm happy to cite when that happened -- >> once again of lie with colin van ostern. my brothers north lobbyists and you compare a power line to the meant health stability in our state, and taking $40,000, it's deplorable. it's deplorable. >> candidates. thank you. we have a lot of issues we want to get to but i'd be replies if i didn't ask one more political question. this is a presidential election like we have never seen before and the republican presidential nominees donald trump making big news when that audio reporting only if from 11 years ago was extremely lewd cents directed towards women. council sununu we talked about this before in interview. you called the comment repugnant and disgusting. >> they. >> but you continue to support donald trump. misquestion is, how do you separate the comments from the man?

>> look, the comments are disguising, repulsive. no place for comments like that. no place for the -- an attitude like that in the public discourse and i've said that from day one, for many other comments that donald trump has made, hat said. i've always said i support the nominee and i will. when you're looking at the options, this election on the presidential side isn't about one person. it's about the fabric of our country, where we're going over the next four or eight years, public trust. hillary clinton has none of it. think public trust us win one of the most important aspects of public service. hillary clinton has none of it. we have to look at what we're going to do over the next four or eight years and where the country is going on the supreme court, the potential to finally end horrible programs like obamacare that failed across the country. again, end the bigwig government, big washington spending that has pushed its way into new hampshire, invaded our state, eroded local control. those things matter and will really affect people's lives here in the state as individuals.

and we have to always remember, policy affects people. it affects their lives and we snead too stand up strong in new hampshire. >> counsel million, van ostern. >> ing this is simple. kris sue knew has failed a leadership testifies every single day that he continues to support donald trump. while donald trump insults gold star mothers, entire religions, nationalities, win. , pows because they got captured and lately our democracy, and chris says what is more important them to than up a owl of that is his political party. more important to him than doing what is right for the people of our country and stake is sticking with his only political career. well, sometimes leadership takes a back bone to say, bill the way, 30 of the 31 republican governors around the country, one out of three have said they won't support donald trump. it takes being the independent minutessed and the fact that kris won't put what is right for the boom of cower kiln triahead of his own politics speaks

poorly though sort of governor he will be for our state. >> this is be our country -- if anything, donald trump doesn't define a republican. think we all know that. hillary clinton is the epitomy of the democrat party. we have seen what -- again, what she done, with not answering questions and e-mails and pentagon benning and the list going on and on and on. she rye lited she public trust. and she truly defines the democratic party sort so day donald trump defines our party, that's a foolish statement. we need to make sure that we create the best government possible. not just in washington but here in new hampshire, and again, believe we need to push back on washington. i don't trust a whole lot that goes on down there and we need a governor that's going to stand true to our values. >> the reason he does define the republican party is because politics like chris sue enough stick with him even after everything he said. >> let's go to some other issues. >> time to talk about the drug crisis. today, the governor and executive council which you both

sun on, approved 6 of $600,000 in contract to provide sub substance mitch use recovery service us but more people are expectedded to die this year lan that in new hampshire. can we spend or way out of this problem and do you predict next year if electedded fewer people will die? counselor van ostern. >> i. >> we have to overcome this crisis. we cannot only spend our with a out or arrest our way out of this alone and we need be to honest about the fact that knife years ago we didn't have a heroin crisis yet bud he had the second highest level of prescription drug abuse, and the second lowest treatment per capita. so i suggested we need too put forward a plan that comes with both resources and more investment in prevention, treatment and recovery services. i support the successful bipartisan expansion of method indicate which i voted for and chris voted against. the nonprofit, nonpartisan group that is dedicated the leading group to dedicate to tackle is this crisis, new futures, has a

five point plan which i endorse and chris has not. one of the key parents its making medicaid expansion permanent. thousands of our citizens are getting addiction treatment services now wimp also need better prevention treatment in our schools and age appropriate and evidence-based. we need make sure that folks with private insurance don't have barriers between them and getting the treatment they need and we need to make sure our law enforcement has the tools because they've been stretched thin on the front lines. >> counselor sununu. >> it is a crisis of epic proportions. it's the most significant health crisis the state has faced in decades. my program. looks at very aggressive prevention some schools ump hey a fifth and sixth grader if know in the kidded will be offered drugs and pills. we need to get aggressive. my plan is unique in that it brings the parents in so i they know the tools and resources available. also believe we have to provide more bids, especially four women and children never the state. we're drastically low. i was an an event, a wonderful center on the sea coast that

provides services for pregnant women dealle with substance abuse. these are the type of facilities we need more of. i finally we need to get very tough on those that would deal death to our children, and that's what they've doing. they're dealing death. drug dealers have to be taken to task. when they're facing seven to 15 years for dealing drugs, pill that can killed a child in one shot, with need to make sure they're getting the seven to 15 years. with need to get cougher and courts to get tougher because that's how we will keep our kids safe and keep our state moving forward. >> thank you, gentleman. another question tonight about the drug crisis. this one come bridge bridget and she wants to know is the state doing enough to help people in recovery who have criminal records because in drug addiction, get back into the work force? counselor suh knew. >> the question answer is we're not doing enough unfortunately. a., don't have enough recovery beds for young folks. i sad with a young woman named

lisa, 25 years old, had twin boys. three years old each. her mother had before watching. the. she was on day 20 of a 28 day program and told me that her only focus -- she what starting to feel good, starting to understand, starting to get it. but her only focus was making sure she had a car to live in when she got out of her 28-day program. she had abandoned her friends. stolen, had a criminal record, figured she would never get a job. my program looks at providing business tax credits for candidate who invest in job training for those come ought of recovery. ...

>> counseling other men about life without heroine is like, she was 10 months sober at the time, we met in a restaurant in winchester and she told me someone who's two days over and help someone who's one day sober because they know what the first day is like better than anyone else on earth. we all have family members, friends, coworkers, loved ones who have fallen prey to addiction and one of the ways we can overcome it is by tapping into the resources of those who made it through this or in recovery and the experience they have that can help others get through this is extraordinary and we need to make sure we are using that as part of our toolset. >> thank you we have a lot more to come in this debate from family and medical leave to healthcare prices to affordability to kindergarten. they went us,our debate returns in a moment .

>> we will be right back. >>. [music] back to our gubernatorial debate tonight. >> we were talking about the heroine and opioid epidemic and i want to turn the chapter, turn the page decriminalizing marijuana. we know that critics of this said marijuana is a gateway drug. yet we are in the middle of a crisis now so stacy from merrimack wants to know that before decriminalizing marijuana and if now is the

appropriate time. let's start with you, van ostern. >> i believe you have certain should join every other state in new england in decriminalizing marijuana. having someone derail their entire life or career or get kicked out of college or lose their student loans doesn't make sense for a small possession for personal use. we shouldn't be spending the money to incarcerate people when they can go into additionaltreatment services. we have a statewide court system is getting off the ground now in some areas and that's the direction i'd like to see minor offenses like personal possession of marijuana. >> mister sununu? >> this is one area where colin and i agree. i do support decriminalizing marijuana, it's a common sense to get us more in line with the severity of the crime . that question is always followed up with, do we support for legalization of marijuana? i don't believe we are ready to take that step in this date we are entering the initial phases of using medical marijuana , the growers that we have, make sure we are learning that process, accountability with a checks and balances system in place. all other states are taking

on that full legalization, massachusetts may go that route soon, may is looking at it as well so i don't believe we are ready to that step but decriminalization is a step for the people. >> let's talk healthcare. the obama administration confirmed premiums in some parts of the country will go up an average of 22 percent in 2017. for a new hampshire family of for the degrees will be smaller, an average of two percent but still an increase. cindy from grafton has a question about healthcare expenses. she wants to know would you support laws requiring healthcare providers to public published prices, mister sununu. >> transparency is always one of the most important facets in providing competition for healthcare but let's understand what obamacare is. it's a failure. the promise of obamacare as driven rates through the roof in the state, not just on the

obamacare side but the private sector. obamacare wasn't a one page document. it was a 4000 page document that wasn't read before it was passed. congress didn't understand the negative implications a program like that would have in our states and businesses and with 800 employees, we had demand. we had diminished powers. we don't want to let go of anybody because of healthcare but managing hours, we are constantly having to manage because of the dynamics of our business so sometimes we have to hire two people to do the job of one. it's the same thing for thousands of businesses across the state, even new hampshire has had to manage over 2000 employees into 29 hours or less. that's not our fault. that obama's fault and he's thrown this legislation upon our state, upon the country and even bill clinton said it was a failed program. he even called it crazy so we have to make a change and re-localize our priorities for new hampshire. >> and mister van ostern. >> when one of us is elected governor and begins in january, barack obama will be

president anymore. we need to have someone who will work with the other party to find solutions to bring down health care costs . there are three ideas we can use to do that. first, we need more pricing transparency. there's a great website called new hampshire healthcare cost.gov and they have a number of procedures where you can check out quality ratings and the cost of different healthcare providers but it can be expanded significantly. secondly and critically we need to make sure the successful bipartisan expansion of medicaid continues. this is something i supported. chris repeatedly opposed it despite the fact it had bipartisan support and what we found is in the states that did expand medicaid, less people are showing up uninsured in their ers and not only did we expand coverage to 6000 people without raising state taxes but middle-class , private healthcare premiums have actually risen at a much slower rate in the state had

not expanded medicaid like new hampshire did my opponent wants to make obamacare permanent. you know what happens when you make washington programs permanent? you lose all control. you can't create programs for yourself, you can't holocaust. that's 70,000 people in the statestill uninsured. the prices have gone through the roof. i asked everyone to look at what your healthcare prices, what your deductibles are today versus five years ago. that's because of obamacare. it's hitting us all in the pocketbook . it's affecting the quality of healthcare and business in this state, it must be repealed and we have to have a governor to push back on those programs. >> when it comes to medicaid expansion, for making it permanent, councilman sununu if you were governor next year would you support renewal or would you look for different options? where with those 4000 people go? >> i said again contrary to what colin likes to put out there because it sounds good, he's a great political wordsmith, i said if we need to take steps to keep

medicare going, we should do that. there are good qualities of that program but let's understand, to make it permanent means again, we lose all control. it's a very different dynamic in our state. we have a lot of substance abuse issues, we have more of an elderly population. those dynamics are different than other states. some giant, homogenized program out of washington that we have no control over is not in our interest. i want to take part of that program, get rid of the waste and bureaucracy and design those programs to fit our needs. so over time we can improve ourselves toward a more sustainable system for ourselves. my opponent wants to make it permanent. he wants to defer to washington, make all the decisions for it. local control matters. >> chris and i sat next to each other on the executive council table for the last four years. when republicans and democrats were working together to find a bipartisan solution to expand medicaid and bring healthcare coverage to 50,000 people without

raising state taxes including thousands for addiction treatment services, he did everything he could to stop that and that those were my words, he said recently he did everything he could to vote against it. he voted against bringing the legislator back in session, and declining federal waivers, devoted against and even in this campaign said he wants to repeal it. that's wrong for the people of new hampshire. >> colin is right about one thing. he hasn't voted a single 190 million contract that looks at medicaid as part of the waiver but that's because we were given the contract on your couple hours before the meeting. it was simple that people wanted to read it. i'm not going forward with anything if we don't get to read it and if the people don't get to. the contracts go online, people can read them as well. one of the largest contracts in state history, none of us read it. it was accepted at the table when we had just been handed it and it's about reading the context.

i never going to sign a piece of legislation or approve the contract unless we get to read it first. that's what the washington way of doing it, that's collins way of doing it. we need an accountability of checks and balances in the system. >> washington way is speaking out of both sides of your mouth. his friends are running attack one vote, the one that i voted for him he voted against which would expand medicaid health care coverage in the state. if there's one other executive counselor that voted the way he did, 50,000 fewer people would have healthcare. 50,000 fewer people would have addiction treatment services and not only that, he has repeatedly voted against the executive council, the only counselor to oppose legislation to come back in a session and deal with this. he voted against it repeatedly and he said a few months ago he wants to repeal it. >> bringing the special session back to the political gimmicks is no reason a legislature couldn't have taken it up in the traditional way.

was a political gimmicks pushed forward by the governor and again, i voted for three of the amendments. there were four amendments, i voted for three of them. the fourth one i simply wanted to read. colin was a rubberstamp for washington special interests. he said i don't care if we don't get the chance to read it, we need to move forward because the governor says we need to. we need a governor that's going to sometimes challenge his own party, push back and make tough political votes. >> we need to move forward as well because we could debate on this all night long but we have a lot of other things to get to. we got a lot of questions over the last couple of days about family and medical leave. christina, here's one in particular from portsmouth. she asks would you support it for all grant stators in the corner office and i'm going to start with mister van ostern. >> when you're looking at paid family medical leave, there's a broader issue we have to look at. a lot of folks don't have the capability and time to get to their families in some of the most critical times in their lives so we have to find ways to support them weather is making sure they can have

kindergarten in their schools or those on the lower income scale have the ability to have child's hair so they can go to work or have a job. we have not done enough in our state to support those families that need our help so they can make better choices in their life, so they can open those doors of opportunity. whatever we can do in this state to open those doors for young mothers, family, even children, to make sure they have better opportunities, that's what we need to focus on. i'm a believer in equal opportunity education. we need to make sure everyone has choices. we've lost a lot of choice, all of our families don't have the ability to make the best choice in terms of where their child might go to school or the best path for them and we have a governor that shot down because they were allowing parents to make the best choice for their families. family first, local control. >> councilman van ostern. >> i believe every worker should have the opportunity to earn a family and sick leave, we need a state minimum wage.

ours is the lowest in the nation and in fact, we are never going to compete with texas on having the cheapest labor in the country. we need to give the on having skilled, well-educated border workers, quality-of-life and low taxes. chris doesn't think we should have a state minimum wage at all and that's devastating for the answer families and i know we need a minimum wage, we need to raise it, do more to help ensure every family has the opportunity to succeed. >> in our state we have some of the highest per capita income in the country, that's a positive thing. we defer to the minimum wage and that will pick up over time. in my sis business i have 800 employees, four or five percent are on minimum wage. those who just entered in a few months but this increases

the minimum wage dollar fx 67 percent of my employees and other businesses across the state and my opponent doesn't want to kick it up a dollar or two, he's talking about $12. hillary clinton is talking $16. there's only one result, a loss of jobs and i won't be the governor that puts forth programs where we end up losing jobs. there's no gray area about that. >> 18 seconds. >> i have said i think we need to raise the minimum wage somewhere between where it is now and $12. that will mean more money in more pockets and fewer people who work full-time live on public assistance. having the lowest minimumwage in the country is wrong for new hampshire but you support hillary clinton's $15 an hour minimum wage . >> we have many more topics to cover tonight, stay with us, we will be back after a short break. [music] >> welcome back, this is the gubernatorial debate.

>> we continue with a question on the cost of education here in new hampshire. new hampshire has the highest average student loan debt in the country at $36,000 and that's a eight percent from a year before. this account for the first time in 25 years, she's frozen state tuition but lewis from hacker want to know what are your plans to make a degree more affordable? councilman van ostern? >> it's a great question and one of the central reasons i'm running. we have to do more to keep young families and new businesses and startups and part of that is bringing down the cost of college. three years ago i left a great job to launch a nonprofit college in southern new hampshire university called college for america. this past year we enrolled 4600 students, as many as unh and dartmouth combined. anyone percent are the first in their family to go to college. most are getting the degree

without that. that's not the model for every form of higher education but for working adults, there are good lessons. they include working more closely with the private sector is willing to pay part of the cost using moderate innovation to bring costs down. we need to make sure to fund our university system and we should do it at the levels we had before the recession. now it's the lowest in the nation but we need to have accountability measures we know that additional funding will mean lower student debt, more people graduating and the jobs that have high workforce growth. >> councilman sununu. >> four short years ago my wife and i finally paid off our student debt. it wasn't easy, $278 every single month for 15 years. i understand the burdens of carrying that long-term debt and is just getting worse. my program has a couple different ways to address this. my program says if you go to one of our universities in new hampshire and work in one

of our high demand job areas, psychiatry, teachers, we will pay down your debt. unlike my opponent i don't believe in free college. what you do that you will erode the quality of unh. i also believe we are going to invest more money in the university system and i'm open to that, i plan to take the first $5 million, provide a reduction to 5000 students. no administration costs, just direct savings. we need a governor that attends the trustee meetings. our governor has attended one meeting in the past four years. it's about beinginvolved, getting your hands dirty a little bit and understanding the budget so we can make the best decision together . >> councilman van ostern would you like to respond? >> i don't know how it is we ended up criticizing that. what matters here is we bring solutions forward in order to drive down costs and increase our workforce and strengthen our workforce.i've done this successfully and sometimes when you are hiring

someone for a job is really what this is, it's a job interview and you are the hiring manager you need to hear someone but also see what they've done to make you think they can get it done. i nationally acclaimed workforce development college at university for america and that's good experience for bringing college costs down gentleman and another question about education. smarter balancetesting , isn't working and do you support keeping it? councilman sununu. >> my wife is a special ed teacher. i'm in my kids classrooms and i can tell you, in court, while well intended as eroded the quality of local control in our classroom. it has limited our teacher's ability to provide more individualized education and education as it's known. we need a little more challenge to be challenged, those that need more help can have it. when my son came home, over 20 straight days, 25 days and he said we practice again for

the smarter balance act . there's nothing educational about practicing for a test. we've gotten to the point where will all we are accepting his distraction, i don't mind a standardized test, we need good standards but let's make sure we had test designed by new hampshire teachers that have done new hampshire curriculum for new hampshire kids. it's about doing it our way. common core has failed, homogenized board of education in washington dc does not have our interest in mind. we need to empower people and make the best choices in our kids classrooms. >> councilman van ostern. >> we need to release our dependence on standardized testing. there's a project and we're the first program in the state to be doing that where i can follow school districts successfully replace half the standardized tests. so instead of every year between grades four through 11, at those tests are replaced in classroom regular

work designed by local teachers. that's a good step in the right direction. right now we are holding back other school districts from taking that sort of step forward. we shall out more school districts to do project-based learning.we just now, it's a good step to replace that final year of the standardized test with the sat that helps more kids get onto the college track. it helps strengthen our workforce and it's frankly a better assessment tool for the later years in high school. >> i've got two more questions on public education and i want to get to these a little quicker than what we've been going. one of them though, the three of us all have young children. the state does not have full kindergarten, it's up to the individual district. as governor would you support it and more importantly how would you pay for it? >> it's a good question. let me be clear on this. i do file like i make sure that we fully fund the public

kindergarten in every community in the state. i think it is vital, it's the right thing to do for our kids but also the right thing to do for working adults want to be able to work. my son finished kindergarten in half the towns in our state. and we are 49th in the country in terms of access to early childhood education. we can do better. most of our kids, two thirds are raised by a single parent like i was or are raised by parents like my kids are right now. we need those parents to participate in the economy and kids to get the best education. >> i'm a very strong supporter of making sure we have full day kindergarten for those who want it. the state has to be able to put up their fair share. in terms of how to pay for it, we can go back to the last question. common core, hundreds of millions of dollars to keep up with the federalized program. we don't have the ability to design our own system, to create our own system, make our own choices for ourselves. what we need in the state is a governor who is a stakeholder, who has kids whether it's in middle school or grade school who

understand these issues and pushes and pulls . >> i wanted to get to some clarification, i honestly didn't understand. the reason have to towns in our state don't offer kindergarten is because the state only pays half the cost of kindergarten. i am suggesting and in fact i will as governor if elected fully fund that in my budget. i wasn't sure from the answer if you will or not. i'm glad to hear that. >> sex education in elementary school, is it too young or what is the age appropriate place to start education? >> i don't think it's up to the politicians to make that decision. i think it's up to parents and school boards and professional expert. >> that's not a popular decision. >> i have a three-year-old and a six-year-old was too young. >> we agree on this, it's up to the parents and has that local control is vital, it's not the politicians. it's a personal decision on family. >> thank you. >> now question about guns. gun violence survivors from west moreland says do you support laws that make it illegal for domestic abusers

to access guns? and counseling, we will begin with you. >> i believe common sense gun violence prevention controls need to be consistent with the second amendment that i support and exercise as a gun owner myself . we seen a number of areas where there's more we can do area i believe we need universal background checks. we've also seen unfortunately where folks have tried to erode our public safety laws. one of the things councilman sununu has suggested that we need a permit to have a concealed weapon. right now we include local law enforcement in that permitting process, but it's important for public safety. >> people know that i'm a strong supporter of the second amendment and i do offer support for universal background checks where appropriate but to the point of the question, it's an important question. when you are dealing with domestic violence, we must be standing up at the local level and state level to protect those in families that would be held at risk. that's one of the first responsibilities of government is and safety of

individuals for standing up for them, providing support and making sure they know we will support them . whether it's limiting guns and making sure that we are, that those with prevent violence in the homes, that we are providing those background checks and providing those accent balances, that's important because it's important to families. >> on now to a question, one of the most popular questions on the forum. alzheimer's disease is a leading cause of death in the state and brenda of mcelroy says he's a caregiver to a husband, a mother who suffers from it and she wants to know what the state would do to support families affected by alzheimer's crisis in new hampshire and counselor, we will begin with you. >> it's a very important question. a lot of us know the state is increasing and we are becoming, we are becoming sobering and overtime alzheimer is becoming one of the most serious eight issues

not just for the state but for families who have todeal with that flexion. i'm a big believer in providing solid homecare services whether it's making sure we have the nurses available, family members , making sure they can be reimbursed. home care services have only received one raise in their increased rates over the last 10 years, he was five percent over 10 years. we are under servicing those who want to be able to stay home, take their family members or provide nursing services so that again, we all know the best quality of life that we can provide is when we are in our homes with our families and all the way. >> counselor van ostern. >> i have to thank a woman named heather herold who came to the house party that we had on sunday to my campaign, i was down in nashua at the posted by doctor jim briars, a former republican senator

who led the endowment for healthcare for years and a woman named heather came and she asked this question, she's an advocate for alzheimer's and she had specific ideas about what we can do more as a state. part of that start with allowing people to age in their homes wherever possible. you offer higher quality healthcare outcomes that saves money when folks are able to age in their homes. we need this in our workforce including nurses and other medical assistance.right now we have a serious shortage in one of the things i think it's important to bring down the cost of college and particularly incentivize our university system to strengthen workforce development in areas like healthcare is because the workforce means we will face looking forward as estate. i know that the attorney general's office, we started doing a better job of tracking down on senior scams and that's one of the areas that we need to make sure we're looking out for our seniors. >> shifting gears, we are in the middle of a very serious drought and we got rain but not nearly enough. the state started asking people to take shorter hours. i'm going to ask the both

of you if you were governor right now would you do stricter rules on statewide fines and people who use too much water? >> i think voluntary reduction of involuntary restrictions are the right way to go. i don't think we're at the point of having fines yet. we need to prioritize safe drinking water for human beings. you need to realize the drought is had a serious impact on our farmers, particularly dairy farmers. i've heard from folks i use to work for who don't eat yogurt who have seen this up close and personal. and i believe that we are still at a point where there's voluntary reductions made on a town by town basis. there are parts of our state have more severe and less severe drop implications depending on which watershed they are in. i think those are right now but we need to continue to monitor the situation as well. >> again, there's someone in the area of business, water is vital. it's vital not just for our businesses that many

businesses whether you're talking about farmers or those in recreation. the drastically low levels especially in the north country and southeast part of the state. that affects everybody. i do believe that local control is important when making those decisions, i don't necessarily believe in fines. voluntary programs make sure that people are reducing their consumption, beingsmart until we get through this temporary drought and i'm passionate about water. i was an environmental engineer and for 10 years i was on construction sites cleaning up contaminated groundwater . it's an important issue and what we see, we have an issue where we have contamination and groundwater, where we have put people at risk with this. we need a governor that has front-line experience in making sure that we are finding the best quality water for our kids moving forward. >> we have about 30 seconds before closing, so i want to get quickly to yes, sir number energy costs are big in this state and very expensive. northern path has been used a lot as has, would you support

the project as is, congressmen sununu. >> hundred million megawatts of clean, renewable energy at a lower ratepayer cost, $80 million per year for thestate of new hampshire, that the quality project that i hope goes forward . x there were seven of us who ran for governor, both sides of the island. six of us had a concern about this, only one candidate wants to get to the utility company in the state after they get him tens of thousands of dollars.>> thank you both. >> time now for closing statements and counselor sununu, we will start with you. >> thanks to everyone for being with us tonight. new hampshire is a great state but we must do better for our communities, our people, our businesses and our economy. i've traveled this state and

listen to the constituents and i'm going to bring my experience as an environmental engineer, a real business leader in the case management to make sure we're providing the best illusions to people in business. i'm passionate about education. my wife was a special ed teacher. i have a fifth and sixth grader, my kids are in school, i'm in their class. we have to make sure we are exploring local control and making sure parents of an ultimate say for their kids. >> we have an aggressive heroin crisis that needs to be. my program would set aggressive penchant for providing accountability and treatment and removing the roadblocks that currently exist in recovery areas. we have a very clear choice this election, we can keep going down the path of big washington programs, making them permanent, losing control or we can elect a governor that serves the new hampshire people, the new hampshire way. we do it better than everybody else. i hope for your vote and i hope you are ready to make that change. >> councilman van ostern. >> thank you and thanks for being with us. i'm running for governor to help our state make the next step forward and bringing

young people and young families and new businesses and startups in our state and for me this is about focusing on what's best for people and getting past the outdated political thing. and we talk about money, it's not just we need a governor who will support that money 100 percent of the time, it's also about looking up for that young man who needs access to a cancer screening and can't get anywhere else. when we talk about the investments in solar energy products what i repeatedly supported but chris has opposed, part of it is about looking out for that entrepreneur who is still financing a company and working to bring portsmouth high school which will be put up in a few months. when we talk about the importance of expansion of medicaid, it's not a policy i supported and chris opposed, it's a young woman i left was in addiction treatment recovery today because of the successful expansion of medicaid. we need to move our state forward, do it in a bipartisan way and that means always looking out for you.

>> that is it for our gubernatorial debate. if you want to watch it again, head to our website or on our facebook page. >> the action continues tomorrow in our u.s. senate showdown with kelly ayotte and challenger maggie, you can go to our website and give us your suggestions and questions. the debate begins 8 pm tomorrow night. >> we hope to see you then, have a good night. >> heading into the final weekend before election day on our road to the white house coverage continues this afternoon with hillary clinton in detroit for a rally. at 5:50 p.m. eastern. later it's donald trump campaigning in pennsylvania. we will have his event in hershey at 7:00 eastern. in the oregon governor's race, incumbent democrat keith brown and challenger republican budget here debate homelessness, the use of the governor's veto and the

minimum wage. >> your balance just arrived. now you have to decide who will be oregon's next governor. democrat keith brown wants to continue the work she has already been doing for 18 months. >> i am the best prepared and best qualified candidate in the race to lead this work. >> republican budget sears is new to politics but argues the state needs fresh leadership. >> we see a lot of problems and we see problems that the governor doesn't feel qualified to take on. >> a contentious corporate tax proposal, extension 97. >> it's time for corporations, particularly out-of-state corporations to pay their fair share. >> what we really need is to have governments learn to live on less revenue. >> oregon issuesrun deeper than just taxes.

the next governor has to deal with our homeless crisis . >> we need to have allowing people to live in specifications. >> and also find a way to improve oregon's crumbling the roads and highways. >> oregon as a transportation issue. we have congestion, we see it every day in the states around the metropolitan narrative area. >> tonight, both candidates meet at the kg w studios in downtown portland for the final debate before election day. from the oregonian, ordered online and katie w news, this is decision 2016. the debate for oregon's governor. >> hello everyone and welcome to the debate for oregon's governor, hosted by kgw, the oregonian and oregon leg, i'm tracy barry and snipes we are pleased to have the top two candidates in the governor's race here in our portland studio.

governor kate brown took over the state's top office 18 months ago after john catawba resigned. republican challenger is doctor budpierce . he's an oncologistwe also have several veteran political journalists on our panel tonight , our reporter is a kgw anchor and hosts the current affairs show straight talk. kate dean is a long-time columnist for the oregonian and is author of seven books . hillary, hillary borrud is state politics reporter for the oregonian and has extensively covered this and i'm so happy because yes, professor chris kerry is back with our timekeeper tonight. chris will be keeping the candidates honest and on time tonight. we are going to start tonight with an issue that has really dominated this election and the airwaves, we are talking about portsmouth tax, major 97. i'm hoping you are up on it

but to give you a very brief reminder, it would tax all sales above 25 million for certain companies in oregon. we flipped a coin to determine who goes first and the first question will go to governor brown and it will come from hillary borrud of the oregonian. >> governor brown, if measure 97 passes the state would have $60 billion in additional revenue for the next state budget. how much of that would be you put toward education and how will you ensure that money would be spent there? >> good evening everyone and thank you all for being here tonight. i am supporting ballot measure 97 for a couple reasons. number one, we need adequate and stable revenue for key basic services like education. number two, no other viable

alternative is available. number three, it's time for large out-of-state corporations to pay their fair share and i would ask oregonians do you think our school year is long enough? do you think the class size is small enough? i don't. are you willing to call hundreds of thousands of oregonians from the health plan? i am not and i want to make sure that struggling seniors have programs like project independence so they can stay in their own home. i will spend $97,000 and the voters intended for school, health care and services for seniors. >> i'm going to commit to a specific amount. >> at this point in time i will spend it as voters intended, dedicated to education, making sure we can work toward funding the quality education model for $2 billion short of funding that. where about $1800 short of funding or health plan to ensure that all oregonians have access to healthcare in the next couple of years as well as making sure we have adequate funding for programs for seniors, vulnerable seniors and enabling them to

stay in their own home area also very importantly, we have made significant investments in early childhood education.i want to make sure that we can continue to sustain those investments. 1300 preschoolers now have access to the preschool promise. i want to make sure they show up to kindergarten ready to learn. >> doctor pierce, are you ready to commit how you would spend that money if it passes? >> the legislative revenue office and said we will use 3300 private-sector jobs and the increased cost of living will be $600 and i can't go there for that reason. the budget is going to grow about $2 billion if we get themedicaid waiver we are seeking and i propose a budget increase , k-12 funding by $1.4 billion. i will say this, that if the measure passes i would go to full funding of, to optimize educational funding, we are $2 billion short so i would commit to that and i would look to mitigate the damage

to oregon families and oregon businesses by trying to get the money back in the hands of oregon families of low income that are going to take $600 more a year and try to provide relief to businesses like kumquat dairy, powell's book, oregon clinic and corvallis clinic will be hit by this. >> your first question is doctor pierce. let's continuetalking about measure 97. you're opposed to measure 97 but you acknowledge if it fails, the state will face a huge budget gap of more than $1 billion . in the balanced-budget you would have to present to the legislature if you were governor, can you name to state programs specifically that you would be willing to reduce or eliminate to help balance the budget? >> i prepared a budget with a dichotomous in portland that is out and published online that assumes that, the 67 percent budget increase you will have on income tax brackets not being fully indexed in the growth of the economy and if we can get

that $400 million in this waiver that increases spending by 10 percent and i've committed a good deal of that money to k-12 and in other areas are increased although the expense is less then the government agency say they need to continue the current service level and what we need to learn to do in government is make the internal efficiency of government work better. if you look at the spending budget for the last biennium you will see the second-highest item in the spending budget is 17 percent , representing $12 billion for administration. we don't need to cut and eliminate programs, we need to have much better internal efficiency so the money that on process can go to the programs themselves. >> you think you can make up $1.3 billion through the efficiency? >> i do believe that you talked about on your website consolidating those agencies, would you name one of those? >> i would look at things like the department of energy and i know that's a small savings but this is an

example. the organization 150 employees, you have one legislative analyst, you have five hr people, you have three people that deal with public affairs and i would say take the functions you need to do out of that agency and put it into another agency, something. i'm getting to the point that that's not a great example because of the way it's funded but that kind of efficiency and looking at where we can take things that government says it doesn't need to be done so that we can again take that revenue and put it into actual purpose of the organization rather than the internal process. that's where we have to find money in government or measure 97, if it passes we are talking about a 40 percent increase in our fund budget. >> as a rebuttal, is there anything specific you would cut if the measure failed or something you would try to save? >> i will say my opponent released is one page but it last week, it certainly has seen recipes longer than that and recipes with more details

than his budget provided. but his budget denies basic reality and that is oregon's population is increasing. several dollars particularly for the oregon health plan. they are decreasing and we are facing a $1.35 billion deficit. i am required by law to prepare a budget that meets the revenues that we have and i will do that should ballot measure 97 failed and that means roughly right now about 10 to 12 percent cuts across state agencies. i will work to prioritize what i see are key investments that support working families across the state including early childhood education, reducing class-size and healthcare for all. >> thank you. your first question goes to the governor. >> governor brown, organized one of the worst graduation rates in the country yet we are middle of the pack when it comes to classroom running. before you asked her more money for school, how do you get better results with the money we are already

spending? >> i appreciate the question. oregon's high school graduation rate is absolutely unacceptable. and this is apersonal issue for me . my stepson grew out of high school after two years. and we were fortunate as a family. we had the schools and the resources to make sure that he got his ged. but not every family does. that is why i brought on my education innovation officer, cold. he is tasked with making sure that schools and students have tools and resources they need to be successful. that means adequately providing career incentive for education. it's working to make sure students are in the classroom, reducing absenteeism and making sure students and families have the support they need to be in school. >> in the five months that he's been in office, can you name one innovation that the

chief innovation officer has come up with? >> he has been working to meet with school district around the state, he met with over 1000 oregonians . we are looking at replicating practice so for example, would born high school has seen a tremendous increase in their high school graduation rate. they have four salt small schools within their high school, number one, number two. they have a high bilingual population, that makes that bilingual program working on having a trilingual program that meets the needs of the russian community there as well. these are the kinds of best practices we need to make sure that all schools have to ensure that every high school graduates from high school with a plan for their future. >> governor, her party has been in charge of the state for roughly 20 years and this is the result of their efforts and during this governors tenure of 18 months, it's gone from 47 to 48 in graduation rates. a few basic things we need to do, we need to make sure

people go to school, people at school can graduate at a much higher rate. second, we have to support teachers in the classroom, chalkboard projects, teaching, training, that means a longer school day and a longer school year with the funds that we currently have available and again, i believe bringing in measure 98 with technical education will help keep people in the classroom that are otherwise leaving but again, we have to focus on making sure humans are in the classroom. i believe our schools are funded for attendance if the students attend one out of 11 days of instruction. obviously things like that need to be changed your next question goes to doctor . >> doctor pierce, you want to be governor during the next legislative session and we are likely to take up the transportation funding package at that time. what is the top project that you would want to see funded and do we need to increase the tax to pay for it?

we had a legislative group working on projects and what you hear often is no bill products are likely to go forward so these are projects of the department of transportation has brought as bringing forward to improve the efficiencies of interchanges and how traffic flows and that's an easy thing we can do. in terms of getting lanes of traffic built, that's going to probably hit production because it is so hard to build things with actual engineers, it's tough to do that so i'm willing to wait for the proposal from the committee working on that and department of transportation, we get no bills looking at more efficiency. i'm interested in exchanging the low carbon fuel program that governor brown brought forward in exchange for a gas tax. i'm interested in that.that program turns out to not get lower carbon the world, it's called oregonians to get more gasoline. and we need to do, to have a

different approach to lowering carbon and getting our transportation. >> is there any specific projects you feel would benefit your area? >> we have two lanes of freeway five going by the road, that would be an area that we could get improvements on it, number one. >> governor brown? >> we have a transportation visiting panel throughout the state, hearing from communities and what oregonians want and need in the transportation package. number one item will be a surprise from the portland area folks is investments to reduce congestion. portlanders are spending about 52 hours a year in mindnumbing traffic. i find it intolerable. i'm sure you all due to. second, mass transit. every community across the state is asking for mass transit and third, we must continue to invest in seismically retrofitting our roads and bridges so they can withstand an earthquake event. yes, i believe we need additional revenue on the table.

you cannot make these investments without new money and if i were going to choose one i would choose mass transit throughout the state. >> your question goes to the governor. >> recent governors have not been afraid to assert their leadership and use the veto to kill legislation they thought was unwise. yet you haven't vetoed a single bill since taking office. some say this means you are a rubberstamp of the legislature, how do you respond? >> i am proud of the work we've been able to do, collaborating with a legislative leadership and legislative committee to make sure they know exactly where i stand and where i want them to go before they come to my guest.in the last legislative session, every single bill but one has broad bipartisan support. i think that's a good thing. i've worked hard to reach across the aisle and bring in republicans, work with them on a number of bills and i look forward to doing that as governor over the next few years x doctor pierce, is

there anything you think you would veto coming from the democratically controlled legislature? >> what we're seeing is a result of one-party rule and one-partyrule has led us to increasing homelessness and mental health not treated appropriately and filling our prisons and transportation gridlock . and k-12 failing so what i would say is i'm very sure the democratic legislature would be interested in raising revenue. again, i am on record as saying a fixed 10 percent increase in state revenue needs to be enough money to fund the programs and projects we need. i'm willing to exchange as i pointed out the low carbon fuel program for a gas tax , we can build transportation infrastructure but i'm going to be resistant to charging the citizens more money for government when it takes a 10 percent increase is enough and the state budget. >> i'd like an opportunity to respond. >> my opponent has said in

the past he would have vetoed paid sick leave in the minimum wage and i was very proud to work with the legislature to bring forward a minimum wage bill that reflects the different economic regions of oregon and allows over 100,000 oregonians to get a pay increase as of july 1 of this year and secondly, paid sick leave. i think it's critically important that employees don't have to choose between paying the rent or going to work sick and i was very pleased to sign the bill into law because i think it's supporting working families, struggling working families across the state. >> doctor pierce. >> what i said was i would work hard with the legislature to get more money in the pockets of low income people in a different way. i would do it by reducing their state income tax burden, i would work to better support the tax credit and look to have a child program they can afford, that way we are all contributing to the support of low income

people because the problem with bills such as mandatory minimum wage is you make people lose their jobs. the dignity of work is so important so i would look to negotiate in that direction and betting on what on my desk would determine whether or not i would veto something. >> rolled into a benefits package and give especially the small businesses much more flexible in because when you take, when you put burdens on small business you cause people to lose jobs so it's a different approach, a different solution to the same problem. the governor has her. >> steve, your question goes to doctor pierce. >> this is a glorious segway and iappreciate both of you bring it up . doctor pierce, walmart, the nation's largest private employer has concluded it can improveproductivity , service and the company's profitability by raising the minimum wage. you opposed oregon's recently approved increase with walmart for god sakes has

shed light on this issue. what the heck are you waiting for? >> let business aside and in my practice, the numbers is an average wage in our practice which is high school graduates and two years, nurses are $38 an hour and that's not based on a minimum wage, they definitely pay to get more than workforce. i just say that the big companies can do this. they can do it by the way they work and trading with workers, the way they handle productivity.i'm worried about small businesses, those mom-and-pop that are starting and when you burden them with a regulatory environment that's hard for them to get started and grow, that's when you get into trouble so i'm very much into supporting low-wage workers by the means that i discussed and working with businesses tohelp business be profitable and have a competitive labor market so they do need the paperwork and i think that's great. that's private market at work . >> governor brown, also to follow up on that, i'm wondering if you have any

clarity declaring victory early on the minimum wage. walmarts average wage for nonmanagerial position is 1369 now. we're not going to see that in the portland area until july of 2021. what's taking you so long to get oregon again up to the speed that walmart seems to be setting. >> the legislative process is a compromise. i brought business and labor to the table to see if we could reach consensus around a proposal that we could get through the legislature. we were hard to do that. i would say it was a consensus product but we had brought support from democratic legislatures and working families coalition to pass a particular measure that we passed. as you know we were facing a ballot measure that would

increase the minimum wage to 1350 as of january 2017. we felt like this proposal gave businesses through the state of oregon time to plan and prepare and increases as well as immediately put money in the pockets of working oregonians. >> hillary, your question goes to governor brown so turning to the state public pension deficit, governor brown, investment officials oregon's pension system is beyond traces and what we're talking about is a $22 billion funding gap. yet oregon is the only large public pension system that requires no employee contribution. so do you think it's time to require employees to contribute to their own pension? >> yes and frankly sissy, over 50 percent of state and local employees already do. if we were to move forward with the rest of the state employees, number one we would have to tackle a six

percent pay cut. i think that would be challenging and secondly, you are not going to see the significant financial savings because over 50 percent of state and local employees already pick up their six percent. what i'm proposing based on my discussions with the oregon investment council is to provide the oregon investment council with tools and flexibility that they can use to stabilize the system over the long term. and we're working on the proposal, we will be submitting it to the 20 17th legislative session. >> follow-up so people have an idea of how much that would save states, $22 billion is that deficit. how much would your proposal say? >> i don't know the numbers because some of the pieces are being implemented administratively. the last numbers we had were close to $1 billion. >> this governor has never been able to complete a package in her legislative career because she's very close to public employees and their support. there are a number of good options on the table.

you have the betsy johnson cannot package which will smooth some of the final salaries that are going to be paid out. you have the idea that public employees in the systems, the vast majority, that's going forward. you don't have to do an immediate six percent exchange, you can say some of the wages and salary benefits can be contributed. we need to come up with a defined contribution plan for future employees so that the future doesn't have to deal with this. and those are the realistic ways we can address. i'm hoping for higher investment yields is a fool chase and you're going to get moderate returns and maybe a little bit better and that's three percent going forward over the next five or 10 years and that's not enough. >> to follow up quickly, what you're talking about is reducing the benefits for future state employees area you think that would perhaps affect employees wanting to work for the state? >> what i would say is this,

we have a very generous medical plan. we have a generous retirement plan here, and then we have our salaries which are good and i'm saying that unfortunately because of the deficit in the system, the current employees working, some of those future increases and benefit coverages are going to, instead of going to them are going to have to go into the system rather than asking them to pay six percent. so the average employee pays public employees, 22 percent of that bill is paid by current workers and a lot of employees it is zero so we all have to contribute to general fund money. you have to get this under control and the bill is due. problems that made the past be honored our people that retired can be made whole. nothing fruit is going to be lost. >> next question for doctor pierce. a recent report shows half of oregon women and girls reported experiencing some form of sexual assault or

domestic abuse. in a campaign debate said woman with a good education and a job are not susceptible to domestic abuse. you sensed apologized for those remarks and said you've learned a lot since making that statement. what have you learned that will help you as governor change the culture of silence around this type of abuse? >> it's instructive to look at the last week's events where you have ex-president bill clinton and you have candidate donald trump and women coming forward and accusing them of sexual misconduct . if these items are true, that's sexual harassment at worst it's sexual crimes . though it's also interesting to note how these women are hesitant to come forward, you feel like they are not trusted or listened to so the culture is awful and what we need to do is absolutely change our culture and so that the people that are making the accusations are protected. it's kept anonymous, if they need shelter they get the

heck out of there and the pressure has to be put on the perpetrators rather than the victim and we have to do everything we can and i was thinking about my life and the importance of growing up in a stable family, albeit poor and my one experience with whatever striking a girl or anybody is the one time in my life is interesting, i was six years old and my sister was a and i got mad at my sister and punched her in the stomach and she went to my dad crying and there's this big guy looking down at me and i'm sitting there and he goes well, you'll never touch a woman or a girl again and i mean, after that i've never in my whole life never hurt anybody. it never struck anyone, never harassed anyone so i think that culture, i was in a good family, a strong family. i got that correction early and we need to have families and our social sports teams, our churches and that has to bebrought to the forefront and . >> we are way over time and

we need to get the governor a little extra time on her response. what actions would you take as governor to make sure the culture of abuse and silence changes? >> working to increase the penalties for domestic violence, particularly when children were present. working to get the first general fund dollars to build more domestic violence shelters because we are still turning away four out of five women from our domestic violence shelters.

i think the question is do you want someone who has and will continue to be a leader on these issues, or do you want someone who just learned about these issues two weekends ago? i will tell you that i will be a champion, continue to fight to make sure that we have the service is available for domestic violence survivors and sexual assault victims and that we provide a safety net for everyone. >> governor brown, whether it's the corridor or terminal one, portland continues to struggle with the complex problem of homelessness. as governor how directly we be involved in that struggle and how you make a difference? >> i will continue to be involved because i believe every organ family deserves a safe and stable place to call home. last year in oregon's public school system we had 20,000 children who didn't have a roof over their heads at least one

night. no food to eat, a safe, warm dry place to do the homework. that's what i worked very closely with the oregon legislature to put together a $70 million package to build affordable units to prevent homelessness, provide rental assistance and provide for closure assistance. secondly, we work this last session to make sure local jurisdictions had additional tools to build affordable units. moving forward i think we need to do more of the same. we need to continue to build more affordable units and make sure local communities have tools at the local level to prevent homelessness to begin with. i look forward to working with mayor elect we learn and the chair. >> so stable transitional housing tends to be the answer for individuals that are homeless. it's not a permit lifestyle. if you get people in stable transitional housing, bring

wraparound services and, get the issues that would, whether it be untreated middle ellis or addiction are just like a job training and then sequenced towards a life of work and have worked that's available to them. that's the real answer. it costs $50,000 per person that is homeless. we need to invest that money into making the to be contributing members of society. the companies be a leader, a coordinator, get the federal government, state government, counties, metro and the city to work on this in a way and not accept people living in the streets anymore. >> dr. pierce, washington is considering a law that gives the state the ability to remove guns from people who are deemed to be harmful to themselves or others. california already has a similar law and lawmakers here have expressed interest. would you support what's called

extreme risk protection orders in oregon's? >> if the law was written, crafted in a careful way and it would be rapidly look at, in other words, if you would need to go before a judge or a decision-maker early, make sure your right to be protected, i can we do in medicine. what i started in the oldest two doctors could say you were to be held and what would happen that we've got go before judge also. i think that if law-enforcement and people that are concerned about someone's mental state and then exit the weapons as long as they can be brought quickly before judge anderson legal process, the bill is well written, i don't see any trouble with the. >> governor brown? >> i would certainly signed that bill into law. i would have to roseburg following the tragedy at the college and saw the pain in the families eyes that suffered horribly as a result of the shootings at ucc your body think in addition to signing a legislation there's more that we can do. i will be working with community activists and commonsense gun

owners to draft legislation that will close the charleston loophole, prevent folks from escaping, getting access to guns if they don't meet the criteria, closing the domestic violence boyfriend loophole, as well as limiting access to high-capacity magazines. after that, horrible tragedy at ucc we cannot just stand by and do nothing. >> governor brown, health care costs continue to increase. insurance companies have raised rates in some companies are choosing to leave the market. what would you do to improve access to health care while also driving down the cost of health care for average oregon family's? >> i think there's a couple of pieces we need to do in terms of the cost of health care. my top priority as governor to make sure that every oregonian has access to health care. i see this as a basic right. as they were a represented a young woman and the foster care system. her children had been removed

from her by dhs. she would not leave her home. she would not come meet with me. she would not do her service plan so she couldn't get her children back. i finally figured out why. she had no teeth and she was embarrassed to go out in public. it was at about the same time that the oregon health fund was including dental coverage. so she was able to get dentures. and i think it was the beginning of a access story for her and her family. so i am committed to making sure that every oregonian has access to health care. right now our coverage rate is 94% for adults and 98% surely. i think we need to move it to 100%. secondly, in terms of reducing costs, we need to look at social determinants of health. we know for example, that outcomes are better in terms of health care. if everyone has a safe and stable house to live in. >> dr. pierce. >> so i am all for people having health insurance.

i taken care of thousands of uninsured patients throughout the years as a moral imperative. we did it. hard to take care of people without insurance and better for them to have insurance. insurance of the cost drivers, access, more people working with the dignity of work will help a lot. in terms of practical matters, when you have mama must take -- monopolistic health care districts to raise prices 40% can we need to make sure there's competition in the delivery. pharmaceuticals, when drugs go off a patent we need a cheap generics available. we need to make sure that doesn't happen. we need to have continued to allow the cc pose such a citizen primary model that saved us two and $40 million to invade and try down the cost of health care. that's the way we're going to do it. >> final question of this segment and we begin with the dr. pierce. >> dr. pierce, in the past week 10 women have accused donald trump a sexual assault.

he has denied those claims but he was infamously caught on tape boasting about groping women. does the access hollywood tape and these allegations disqualify trump from being president? >> if true they disqualify him. and again that's the problem with people stepping forward in terms of accusing him of these charges. if there's convincing evidence, if it's true then yes, that disqualifies them. you can't sexually harassing you cannot sexual abuse people and the president of united states. the problem is we are engaged in, and, you would like to be more certain. i am greatly disturbed by that behavior as i pointed out before but other comments. unacceptable. and if proven then that would disqualify you from being president. >> do you believe these 10 women? >> i am, it's 10 women, a lot of

women, and it is, that's a lot of people and it makes one believe that it certainly could be true. what its allegations and we have a process and you just have to hold on because people do things for other reasons. but again, when i heard this and read this, it is compelling. >> governor brown? >> i believe these women and i believe anita hill. i think it's appalling that this man is running for president. he should be disqualified. my opponent, up until for weeks ago, endorsed donald trump despite the fact that mr. trump has made very sexist comments. the way he is treated women in the past. he has made very disparaging comments towards our veterans, and the way he has treated particularly reporters with disabilities is absolutely appalling. and my opponent just disavowed

his support three weeks ago. that to me smacks of political opportunism. >> we are going to move on now to question some kgw8 of viewers and readers. all of these questions were sent in by people on facebook and on our website. we will give you both 45 seconds to answer. we will rotate back and forth. the first question goes to dr. pierce and then governor brown we will give you a shot at it as well. dr. pierce, this question comes from randall on our facebook page and you'll know what this is about as soon as you here. what are your plans to ensure that all foster children are able to stay in the home of ivan and not a hotel or dhs office? >> we cannot have children in office or in the hotel. and again we did have defined the shoulder. rich find homes. we have defined families that are available and capable to take these children in. that's i think with the focus

is. we have to do a better job of recruiting families that can take in foster children, give these family support and take care of them. they deserve that. we can't accept failure. so again it's an all out effort to find these caring families and give them the support they need so that they will take in foster children that commonly come from difficult backgrounds. >> governor, how in the world can this happen? >> so as it were i represented both the parents and the children in the foster care system. i remember struggling to make sure that a handful of my children clients, i have five little kids in my family, and i wanted to make sure that all of these children were able to stay with one foster parent. i thought it was critically important. and worked with the agency. i ended up bringing over foam pads because there were no beds in a foster home for all of the children, to make sure that these children had a safe

cushiony place to sleep on. >> but covenant, this is happening on your watch. >> i understand that. i have brought in new leadership. we have done extensive work to change both the leadership of the agency and working very hard to make sure that we have the right systems in place. but some of his is a resource issue and i know this from personal experience. our caseworkers have too many cases. we don't have the resources to do adequate training for our foster parents. we are not going to get additional resources by cutting the department of energy. i know from experience that lawyers have to make a sit the juvenile system as well. so if we want to really provide the care and the rampant services that our children in foster care need, we must put our money where our mouths are. >> governor brown, this question comes from an oregonian reader. oregon seems to be divided

increase only on geographic lines, east versus west. do you think all parts of the state can be run fairly by one government or should the state be split into? >> it's totally a fair question to as governor i want to be the governor of the entire state of oregon. have traveled extensively both in my role as governor, as candidate and formally asked the state around the state. i think what we want, we all want the same things. we want our oregon, all of our oregon to be a place where everyone can thrive. we want to make sure that our businesses are humming and every single corner of the state and we want to be sure that we preserve the beauty and bounty of oregon, not just for our children but for our children's children. i have worked hard to make sure that we pass legislation, provided infrastructure support for our rural communities and urban communities. i worked hard to bring and

republican legislators and democratic legislators to solve oregon's issues. >> dr. pierce, do you think the whole state is being, you know? >> it's one stake of what oregon. this cover has traveled very little outside of the mid atlantic valley. when you go to the rural areas what you really find are people that are frustrated by government, a government that will with another natural resource economy, what with enough managed forests and develop great timber products. a government that increasingly restricts the use of grassland, won't allow them to develop local projects. so again they are incredibly frustrated because they are not listen to and their dictator to. as governor of iowa let the people be free and worked with them so they can create a great economy and a great prosperity in the rural areas. >> dr. pierce, this question is from. the you are elected and are

faced with a difficult decision whether right answer for oregon goes against your political party values, can yo can you dot his rifle or get and put your personal views aside? >> its always about what's right for oregon but i'm not that political. honestly, people ask me, how are you going to foo to fall the pon of government with republicans because there hasn't been a republican government for 30 years. there's a litmus test. can you do the job? do you have a heart for public service? do you want to serve? again i'm running as a citizen, running as one of the audience members. i think we will improve the government, improve the lives of oregonians. >> governor, what about you? could you go against it? >> i've had experience doing that. i've worked very hard over the last couple of years to bring oregon, create campaign finance reform in oregon.

as governor i introduce legislation to make sure that one person's megaphone, someone couldn't buy a megaphone big enough to drown out all the other voices in the state. i think it's critically important we work together to bring reasonable campaign finance to oregon to make sure that would level the playing field and make sure more voices can be heard in the political process. >> i want to ask you about that because people have asked about his donation you got from michael bloomberg, $250,000, when you talk about campaign finance reform. how do you justify that? >> certainly i play by the current rules but it worked to change them. i work very hard, brought a bipartisan group together 10 years ago to great oregon's transparent campaign finance reporting system. because of our work, oregonians can now follow the money in politics and see how candidates, people ar receiving money from d how they're spending it.

i have introduced legislation to amend the constitution to enable the people or the legislature to provide a reasonable campaign limits in oregon and i will continue to fight for that. but i'm proud of the support i've received from working families across the state and from folks across the united states that support my vision for moving oregon forward. >> governor brown, this question from ais from an oregonian read. we're talking about a world -- different rural issue. much of southern and eastern oregon have been in a drought for years. we don't see that so much and with the recent rainfall. but it's really seeing groundwater depleted. what can you do to help in? >> i am already working on a budget to providing oregon water resources department with additional dollars. the oregonian did a great article outlining the crisis

that we're facing in terms of our groundwater. the oregon water resources department needs additional data. they need additional research and they need additional tools for monitoring enforcement. we want to make sure that eastern and southern oregon have water, not just for this generation of farming and ranching families but for folks like john o'keefe was raising his grandchild on the range. we want to make sure that that grandchild can enjoy a successful ranching and farming life. >> dr. pierce, what can you do? >> size, number one, be frugal on use of water when you for. you want to put the water on the planet. there are places like israel that's done really well. california has done it very well. also their places that recharging their groundwater. they tend to catch winter runoff. let it percolate through the aquifer and once it is claimed they can develop into more prominent on before like the columbia basin. we need to use science. we need to keep our wits about

us, and can be frugal with its use and recharge it would begin. >> after pierce, this is from a gw.com. i swear that's not my pen name. this question is not for me but i am all ears, believe me. he asked what would you do to address the financial situation of the shrinking middle class? for example, college costs. many parents make too much income for any real aid and yet do not earn enough to pay for college costs. >> the first answer in terms of better incomes is look at the jobs that of their income to bring back manufacturing, having people that are trained in technical who can work machines, compete with the germs on manufacturing where they get paid $36 an hour versus our 22-$23 an hour. natural resource-based economy, those jobs pay grade. protect the environment. finally, infrastructure buildup to those jobs pay grade in terms

of university education, i have two doctors and a bachelors, $10,000. unheard of in today's economy. we need to go back there by doing two things. demanding the universities figure out lower cost ways to educate our students. they have to be innovative, new ways of teaching that are lower cost, and then we need to support higher education and a better level. >> governor brown, help us. >> i will. the state doesn't create jobs directly but w we can create and if i'm that allows jobs to grow and thrive. number one investing in infrastructure. roads, bridges, mass transit so we can get people to work and school safety and products to market effectively and efficiently. other infrastructure looks like building workforce housing in communities which we have done. challenge for businesses coming to this day. it's finding workforce housing. third, water ever structure i make investing in the water resources department but this last session after meeting with ranchers and farmers, we

invested in a water bonding package that will literally take water out of the columbia river and create jobs by growing crops. secondly, career technical education. and steam program to get under my we have doubled our funding to provide students with hands-on learning experiences to enable them to awaken into the power of their own potential. >> governor brown, this question is from an oregonian reader. oregon democrats and considered a plan to capital tax carbon emissions. do you think taxing businesses that release carbon into the air is a good way for the state to confront climate change? >> yes, i think it's when the tools we need to have on the table to make sure that we are tackling global climate change. this is the biggest challenge facing not only oregon that the entire globe. and oregon is a very small part of the global problems but we can be a large part of the national leadership and under my

leadership we will do that. but that's not all we can do. we can continue and i will use my tools as an executive to reduce energy consumption by building both residential and commercial. they can sue over 40% of our electricity use. thirdly, we can make sure we invest in an intensive electric vehicle infrastructure, particularly and underserved communities. >> dr. pierce, what do you think of that i do? >> i'm generally not in favor of that approach because oregon doesn't produce much in the way of carbon. i'm interested in lowering carbon emissions by other ways. infrastructure update and repair so there's not so much gridlock. improvement in our greek efficiency. buildings out of timber instead of solid concrete. demanding more efficiency out of the new products. i think that's fair. gas, electric hybrids are take -- a great way to do that. that's a better way to go added,

better insulation. than charging attacks with state money. >> guitar lasso should be questioned ghost you dr. pierce. this is some james on our facebook page. he thinks the oregon lottery is a kind of regressive tax that preys on vulnerable people. he asked how can you support a continuation? he got asked like this, how can you support a continuation of the lottery that oregonians voted for over 30 years ago? >> the people want to gamble and it's not at all clear to me that if the organ water shuts down they won't think of it means. citizens voted for. have to respect the will of the voters. we need very aggressive programs to help identify problem gamblers and to reach out and give as much of a possible. i don't know another way. we have a free society. people want to gamble. identify those are getting into trouble can do all you can to help them.

what he is saying in many ways i feel it in my heart, but the citizens have spoken. >> how about you? >> i agree with my opponent on this one. i think t think the task for the is make sure that we have access that folks that have problem gambling have access to new treatment. i want to go back because it wasn't able to address the gentlemen's concern about accessing university and community colleges in a way that doesn't break the bank for families across the state. i was really pleased with the work we did over the last two years to add 16,000 students to the oregon opportunity grant and decoration of the oregon promise, which allows some high school students to attend community college for a mere $50. i would hope if we want to see all of our students hav have at least a two-year post-high school degree that we would make it as affordable and accessible as possible. >> this will be fun, a lightning

round. quick answers. after the columbia basin project filter would you let it rest in peace or bring about? >> i would do everything possible to bring back. back. >> our focus is to be on oregon versus roads, mass transit. the ball is in washington's court. >> governor brown come if elected will you run for a full term as governor in 2018? >> in 18? let me get to the to assisting election cycle first, please. >> yes. >> dr. pierce come how many oregon counties have you visited this year? >> wow. more than a dozen. i don't actually know the number. i've been to a lot of counties. summer between 12 and 18 i would guess. >> governor brown? >> i'm guessing about 18-20. i've had some extraordinary

experiences meeting with oregonians. >> we would love to hear but this is a lightning round. would you favor allow a law that favorite oregonians pumping their own gas? >> now. >> yes. >> that means there's time for your closing statements. that's the good news. thank you. each candidate gets one minute. dr. pierce elected to the last so we start with governor brown. >> thank you all. my opponent over the last, the campaign cycle, has been blaming me for everything that's gone wrong for the last multiple decades. i'm sort of surprised he doesn't blame me for the corruption of mount saint helen's. i'm extremely route -- eruption -- of the work i did over the last 25 years to make oregon a better place for all of our family. from the very moment i walked into the capital to work to pass family medical leave so that parents could stay home with her sick children without fear of

losing their job, to passing legislation that enables women to access mammograms and contraceptives, to making sure into state we don't discriminate based on gender, sexual orientation or gender identity. i am so pleased of everything we've done to make oregon better. i believe that if we work together, we can shape both the place and the times in which we live. i look forward to working with you to make our home, to make oregon a place where everyone can thrive. thank you. >> what an honor to run for governor. in 1980, 1% of the people that were homeless were families and now we're 37%. the mentally ill fill our streets and prisons. gridlock increases. the housing increase at an affordable. higher education is on for the. k-12 continues to be today. my opponent intraparty have been

in charge for two decades in the state. they own the problems. they cannot solve the problems. they need to be replaced with people who can solve the problems. my wife and i've traveled the state extensively over the last 18 months. oregonians are capable of solving these problems if they have a governor and a government who will work with them. in the end it's always about unity. it's about bringing together all people, all races, all religions, all genders working together to greet the great oregon that we all want to live in. thank you very much. >> thank you both very much, and congratulations. this was her fifth and final debate. way to go and thanks to the oregonian as well and all of you into our viewers at home. ballots in oregon started arriving today so don't forget to vote. election day is officially november 8. thank you and goodnight.

♪ ♪ >> heading into the final weekend before election day and i wrote to widest coverage continues this afternoon with hillary clinton in detroit for a rally. that's live at 5:15 p.m. eastern. later it's donald trump campaigning in pennsylvania. we will have his event in hershey at 7:00 eastern. >> in new hampshire's first congressional district incumbent republican frank guinta, former democratic congresswoman carol shea-porter and he defended shawn o'connor debate health care, congressional term limits, can patrol, national security, climate change and the presidential candidates. real clear politics reports that on october 31 gave ms. shea-porter about a five-point lead.

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>> the ground rules for this debate. each candidate will be asked questions and have one minute to respond. at the end of that minute, candidates and you the viewers will hear an audio queue. >> your moderators the second bottle at the endof the debate . and a one minute closing statement. earlier today there was a coin flip to determine which candidate will get their final closing statement first and your supporter tonight, carol shea-porter and sean o'connor last. >> before we jump to the issues we want to get out of the way some important campaign questions. miss shea-porter, you were run running for the democratic nomination and chose personal attacks and you threatened to sue her and the state democratic party. all this on the democratic bid launching a bid for congress.i want to have questions and soon after,