came over on the fiance's the from the philippines before i met her she had a prior illegality try to get in illegally and they deported person there was the major black spot on her record coming in and. and we went through a lot to try to clear that up. now she is a citizen but we know of illegals a think there is that common sense compromise that first of all, of we have to build the wall but second with those who have not committed a crime, a trump knows that we cannot deport all those people so the logical solution is to give a green card which will make republican say and it'llut upset with no chance of citizenship whatsoever

behalf to honor those who come here. if they want to become a citizen they have to go to their home country civic those type of details are very important and to be controversial as always. and to pursue a wall. but it was bipartisan support with federal clinton and barack obama now this in is different and it was popular 2006 and that is thetr

mandate of the number one issue. >> and don the democratic p side? >> you have to think of the red state democrats in 2018 there are a number of them. west virginia, so right now the republican majoritye he repa because you were republicans are up 2018. public debt that judiciary committee chairman as well as senator chuck grassley from iowa state with take of the i imagine. aboutyears old.

>> i have the question about the people that are married to the illegal citizens better in the process whatoi will he do about it collects >> i don't know we don't have that many details as far as i am aware of and something he will have to flesh out that will be coming down early next year. >> or the relationship with paul ryan the said those leadership elections despite calls from those outside conservative groups until they can evaluate how they handle issues during the lame-duck session that is the exact same leadership after the victory is not

sitting well with mcintosh for for the house republicans chef-d'oeuvre replace them with the speaker should rethink the composition of his leadership team. was he empowered. >> i think they picked up some power if hillary clinton had won. so i did think he was empowered those you are in leadership right now. to get the operation going. also where the of the jurors will say it through the freedom caucus we need to be

unified for our agenda the democrat is leading the the white house to get somein stuff done but they will not agree was stuff could get done.speaker >> and with those committee members with the house chairis and candace miller who heads illustration also john cline of the work force. with the term limit did. he is retiring from congress. to have the choice of chairmanship? >> those are big decisions. there is an aspect republicans have to watchle that.

>> because that is the only female chair. the one big race with obamacare is the energy commerce committee trying to get the bill with a lame-duck those used to have the house republican campaign arm. he has the most votes of anybody on the steering committee i am not sure will win that race but that committee is very powerful.t li? >> independent line. >> caller:i have had y >> i have had wanted the background haven't paid

100 percent attention. so to phrase the guy who said the election was rigged did you actually confirm that hillary won the popular vote or what they will do? but more people voted for hillary and they and trump. and i'm calling on the independent line in l.f. the democratic party for those who will fight if i fight. already we've heard news some democratic the deere said below work together.

and to be reminded that when obama of was elected to take office we will do our best to make sure he is a single term president. >> if you look at those who ran for president did not win the popular vote but he did 2004. but that is something that tim kane when he introduced his clinton yesterday he noted that but they said we need to have a transition to give donald trott a chance but hillary clinton said that should be eliminated. so donald trump won fair and square.s, she won the

yes they won the popular i vote but there you go. the next president.ders in the first post-election comments he said there is to path for were the potential for cooperation. what is double of bernie sanders and elizabeth warren and others quite. >> the democratic party is a vacuum. this is one of the most devastating nights in the history of politics. the ramifications will be felt for years. so now we think who or the leaders? joe biden is leaving. obviously nancy pelosi now a new majority of the deere

with the issuer because without a doubt the progress as are looking to elizabeth ward every sanders they both have that populist appeal of donald trump. do they agree? no. i think that to on the left sanders and elizabeth board is a huge movement behind both of them they will be fighting donald trump bought >> georgette democratic line >> caller: i like to speak to social security that would be the easiest to fix from the $125,000 limit but to what up at 5 million because that gives the commission on lower end of the spectrum i am understand they're having a meeting today in the oval

office with trump heaney's to be searched for a wire in case russia has him wired up steve mcqueen will leave itg with the meeting today at the white house. to be a fly on the wall? >> i would love to. it would be a little bit of an awkward meeting for barack obama who said repeatedly on the campaign trail that he is unfit for president but not other nominees but the people have spoken we need a smooth transition said he will have to and show the white house to donald trump and his wife.it. and it will be awkward and no doubt. but at the same time repeatedly at the white house correspondents' dinnerhe

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>> fellow say was another thing before we head back to ohio because i was pulling in the gate about the results of the election people or protesting i want to remind everyone that the office of the presidency needs to be respected. the president needs to be respected. frankly every sunday when i go to church they pray for the president and the governor and i happen to be in the governor but regardless it will still pay for governor when i leave the office. today and said my prayers on the plane for the success of donald trump and as americans we need to come together because it is the lives of our children and my daughters to think that the

united states could really have success there are people in this country the struggle they hope there will be fixed. not overnight but to join hands asa a few prayers for the next president of limited states. and want to complement the president himself and obama and secretary clinton who i think was the inspirational and the away that they shared the outcome. so think about the fact america works best when we are united not divided that would be my message as we move forward in this time.

>> [inaudible] >> i have not been i have met tim. [laughter] disparity of experience leading what challenges has he presented? >> i have never bent president but one of the most important things you need to do is put a great team around you those who have knowledge of impatience and stand-up with you so the most important thing now is to pick a team that can bring experience and wisdom to the president-elect. >>

>> i expect double the governor of ohio and two years. >> when we started this in 1998 along time ago this seems like just yesterday a seems like a long time ago but what they talked about was to changer sox in the middle of a winning streak

in baseball so we just had to deal with the fact that politicians are like professional baseball players they would grow a beard if they thought that would help for the would not change their socks. and they just ran against that. so now would is commonplace for them to be measuring the drapes and thinking and what will they manage to prevail? so now the job is to convince people so that is of a new equivalent of not changing your socks so that is uneasy transition into today's topic for this panel . the last panel was about what is like to transition to the warehouse and this group all walked in to the

white house on dave number-one with that aspect is they all walked out before the resident said and moved into the executive branch there where the mission administration so this will be about walking into the building and i did take that responsibility when that is only the top part of the executive branch of the american government one of the zero largest organizations and one of the most powerful and one of the most complex. especially if you make that your ambition.

so if i am allowed allegheny a brief synopsis of the first panel that basically the leadership is a team sport and the stars and top leadership is the team sportive practice matters because regardless whether or not and it helps everyone in these three people have had she also walked out of the white house with vice president gore and president clinton and with this conundrum about transition and started planning even before governor bush announced he would run for the white house that is part

of the reflection of then governor bush of that commitment the that longstanding personal commitment to not only walk into the building with george w. bush but also a different part of the presidency with the omb but he was deputy director. he is the management of the management and budget never assayed twist with the chief performance officer and i will let her talk about that and also the executive director of the transition planning group for obama that means they started one

way before he was the presumptive candidate and whose job was to make sure they knew what they would be doing now he is midway through a the demonstration he is locked out of the building on his own into the executive branch rickey is deputy secretary of labor if you know anything about the agency they are the ones to make the building one. that is their job to make scheerer that the ambitions of the secretary and the president are the actual output of the agency. so let's just start but what i plan to do ask questions and beach individual but of we can comment because they all have similar experiences you'll walk into the building where your person

was just a candidate and now president elect you walk into the building and what i would like you to do is think back to the end of the second week not the first week in the result of this circumstance but the second and ask yourself if you could only drawback to week experience what would you tell your successor that will lead help them walking into the building with more confidence and strength? >> of course, of what to say thanks for having me here and also to the of bush library to make this possible. we talked about this budget you what to come in with the very clear plan and road map of what you want to do. the first week does have

pulled in circumstance but executive orders and during that time period he said the tone very quickly. so you want to know when you walk in the door we knew what was happening on dade number-one it was very special actually but then have a very clear plan but be willing to be flexible the gesture trying to be proactive but hopefully the next president will have a honeymoon period it is a remarkable time you don't want to squander that you want to take advantage of it also you know what will happen so you have to be agile enough. >> and to expand that comment to take charge of

the of president you want to be to be confident that you would be able to be in the first couple of weeks. with those communications or legal things would never would you want to do? one of the things that could be a risk or opportunities in ways like it has ever bent. so a candidate for the presidency needs to think how prepared do i want to be to deal with the threat to our country or a health risk quest?

or what a key area how will brief to want to be more the potential circumstances to i want to be pdf to make sure that happens? the key is that should not be a variable with the kennedy for president today what type of president to they want to be those first two weeks? then they say that amount of time between now and then but time is measured. how many people are working on this? but if you have 303, m i devoting the resources to add more days to the

calendar by adding more people to be prepared in those key positions to know i have a lot accomplished but now for those that might but that is the given for the first two weeks painted to 81 to start governing is that where is the bathroom parks so use those-- the best that you can so when you do what can the door you can immediately set the tone that you want some mechanism

to really 77 days for the president-elect said you did not start thinking about the transition on election day. you save months ahead of time but however many people but will be for the candidate obama had even wrapped up the democratic nomination we understood the importance of planning in a very comprehensive way with a really unique experience of many of those decisions

except that presidency the matter how great the planning is have to be prepared for the unexpected. in the spring of 2008 with a different policy groups education, health care, environment or economy but as the financial markets are imploding all of the work on the economy takes over everything else. behalf to be planning also nimble as well. >> planning is partly about the people to but it is also about the ambitions themselves.

to throw away the ability to pet it to a crisis that is unexpected but the but people have a hard time with is that the president could say something is on fire and it is improving afford not to. by have to do this other thing. the ability to pay to a crisis depends upon the fact of the notion that that depends upon and matters to him so it isn't what will we do the first couple of weeks to give a speech on this topic of a number for bottles so where is the

president's agenda corrects how was this already organized a that we know what we're doing because now i've to focus on when nobody was expected. that is part of the transition as well. >> if we set that as the objective where does that fit into the? and what they are familiar with but those that to they are drawing and in their not clear their ambitions or had

you know, with the president needs from washington or the campaign? >> i was the appointments% that is the texas but in but you decide who to recommend tune me to do the work we want to get dandelion governor or president. what is. >>guest: to do? so he did talk about politics in the political environment. but what were.

and the but what do you want them to prove and movie. >> what has this administration done with parks and wildlife, hhs are we going south or north star but then what type of person is best suited? a suggestion -- expert quick

somebody who is associated but what type area looking for a? but looking at that map he'd do 10. and and and -- ways to get around purpose masked but then also looking at the correct found but the charge was make sure we don't do anything stupid.

publicly. of selected would recommend people but that did not come from them but they were background check of people that did to be except apple. -- except double the starting of what food area looking for what is best qualified so with a very clear charge for the person that's best qualified to so

you describe it as if the church describes the person but what type of job is that until? it is all within the context of what is an issue get through to define that i will tell you pet there is a fair test said but what is the policy people suggesting that labor refocused on the next 34 years?

of course is he used to that is to make you were not given 80 but you are affecting the obama transition and those the better you telling those people they are the possy people to have the "in-depth" understanding of what it is like to ibm part of the employment trees but there is no way you'll be all the qualifications to be assistant secretary in

training. for those people go to work only because syria people joined transition teams we were very clear that. would we put together a transition team weaver very clear that they were thrilled. so practically speaking and tune your point to some degree ppv will prove themselves. they do agree job all of us transition team but then they are thought of to look at the deputy secretary for the department of justice. >> did you start with a profile with the obama team?

>> use said this earlier we had our transition team so in a june lot and the individual agencies to learn and said much as they could very quickly since david b. the whether it was a regulatory or legislative budget issue. we chose people who had previous different experience.

>> sucked talk about the of balancing of the campaign but why is it. it is not that he tried to keep them separate but is for those who are on the campaign is is easier and they should not be in the new ford but if there is a moment's death day are auction different. there are some wonderful campaign people that transition something for him and and then to planted in

the initiation. >> but also looking at a place, there is a key of appointments of the two but we say that the president makes the appointments and a personal make the disappointments. [laughter] so how do you discipline somebody but you never tell senator so and so that they will not be the king of the country. but you say you say our constituents took the

negative but what to say i am very interested in your qualification so we hope you will hang tight but there isn't a different rule that be so your senior communication people your policy people we need them. and to challenge what do you do with and it is incredibly important film. with a huge part of his or her life so try to translate that skill is tough.

>> did not know how many there are but hell many so-called schedule c is? it is transeventeen hundred. thises of lower-level with very key areas throughout the government so of person can doubt in akron ohio is generally an ideal person this person over this person also they are not expecting to be a secretary for nuclear defense. [laughter] so just about everybody campaigning but over the

years you might say how about this? or you may not know what this is at the time but the key is you are not trying to fill the positions by get the work done and the first death in that direction whoever is qualified to get that work done. >> so the work that you are doing is the agenda? but first you figure out your parties to do the cabinet quickly but you want to think about to have the

goals that they said on the campaign. what we do but one of the challenges for the senate confirmed positions prefer in terms of the cooperation believe one thing but where you can just a point some day. >> but it inevitably he -- ernest it is his -- peace but they will, perhaps up so you really do have people that are lined up one. >> just an example can do

the work crack's we want to get back. >> the senior member of our administration. will he knows housing, certainly transportation because he was chairman baton what do we want the secretary of imagination. >> touchdown. that he is well-regarded in congress but what drove that

primarily is the nature but what they suggest is the primary strength but the airline and the structure is not bush's primary policy objective. maybe 39 of 13 with the list of things that our important to him and his campaign. heidi you decide to somebody who is obviously not in the cabinet. rehash to fill applied to.

>> we could fill out the entire process once he is secretary. review june as the use signed up to fight over the thief will then but the issue and he sheehan town but we are good friends now. [laughter] and then to say i saw.

>> but never as recommended this to the president. nobody cut demand say you have to agree with those 15 people with 17 to ofs but is ahead of preferred perspective from last night or with the relationship. but she believes that is the right thing be she is hell is simple the you will be happy if you can agree but

to be significantly more successful. but just like we did. relations so they feel pressure everybody on their team. nine aimed nameless. but every single one of them . we said they will be the secretary of agriculture for the mistakes of america.

or the united states of what ever. this will not work. >> we both have to agree so it is harder to do it that way. but to find out where those direct reports are to always be extremely well qualified but you never met your direct reports before? no thank you little taken with the job. >> maybe he says i will take

that job. >> just to add another factor is diversity. for those to bring a variety of expenses i think it is critical if you look for those that don't just come not the typical washington establishment to be sure there are jobs for which specialize experiences necessary for your head of the faa. into some level of politics. >> is diversity something you would expect?

so this attitude so with uh bunch of groups with different interests and diversity with the way to do business because it is the exceptionally big tent and the republican party is one voice articulating one position did this seem like that to you crack. >> no. the president said by the way one month and to this, once a month tell me how we year doing on various types of diversity, by ethnicity or gender or washington insiders or

different ways because if it is only in the usual suspects you only get the usual federal government. the more diverse a group of people then but to say tell me how that compares to the prior administration. so we talk about washington inside the beltway. . .

>> is that something that gets decided before? >> president elect obama said he wanted an administration that reflected america. there was no specific quota. it was just every study that's been done on this in the context of the organizational dynamics, the more diverse set of views

that decision will be. >> i don't think it is democrat versus republican. it's about a well-managed organization. >> the policy agencies, is that a concern or is it just about their policy expertise? do you sit down and look at this group and say they are going in the labor department and all just one kind of person that has a stronhave a strong union backd for example. >> you want someone that knows the act and the needs are greater at that point.

transportation may have been 13th at the top of the agencies based on this agenda but they are making 11 part in decisions. the agenda you never know when something is going to come up. as the folks know it's

devastated the gulf coast for three or four months and we nominated and confirmed the secretary of energy who is a physicist and nobel winning physicist didn't have the lead in the response of the effort on staff who then got details down there and could actually help define the mechanism. but that falls under other but it's a luxury which is why you want to get the best people on your team. i'm not looking for the best people to do the best work.

we did predict that going in and it turned out plan 9/11 hit it would be led by extremely knowledgeable. it's not one of the most effective cabinet member who was the republican congressman from illinois and i'm not sure anybody would have said at the outset there's 12 or 14 term republican congressman. it might be effective. >> can you talk about the dema

demand? the thing that you think about. is that an advantage among those people that you think would do a good job here one of them is actually a democrat. when the candidates sitting around throws that issue i can tell you this may not go down well.

>> can you talk about how you decide that you have been assigned this responsibility, you've taken care of transition and now you have a job for three or four years and you decide that it's time to go do that job hell do you make that decision? >> we've had a multitude of different jobs in the administration. i do think there is value moving throughout the government. there are high-level project

managers and it hope helps to he expertise in that area. you can use those people all throughout the government. >> every one of these people made the decision at some point to leave the white house to go to the federal government. the positions were filled for the first time and he said they want you to think about going out and get another role to make sure you don't get burned out. i said that's great.

i bring a message to matt ness and there is a lot of mad at us and the federal government so there is a method called for. >> i haven't worke >> i haven't worked on labor issues except i have a passion for what the department of labor does. it was hard for me to see a noble way to spend my career to work with a dynamic secretary of labor a lot of people are reading about these days and

will work on hard challenges. i have spent most of my career as a political person but what i lacked was true medical experience. you're the ceo of a massive organization and that means the budget and the nuts and bolts of an organization and that is a challenge i wanted to take on but i was given the opportunity. >> is about peace and prosperi prosperity. most of the work of the government is done in the agencies that there's a lot of folks that come into the white house and think i don't want to go anywhere else but i encourage them to.

you can actually really make a difference in those jobs. >> because the president asked. >> it was similar. i went initially to work on the initiative but it was a management position because the president asked. >> is there a point which you sit down and say on election day we have these 12 things. we succeeded in moving that forward.

somebody has to make sure the radar is still working and that isn't a terribly thing but it's an important part of the government. we are replacing the president's agenda but there's still a lot that we need to do as opposed to want to do. somebody still has to do these things and that is an important part of the agenda. how do you keep doing that every day knowing that there is a time that it's going to run out and you need to be preparing for next generation if there's going

to be another democratic administration. two of you are democrats and have been in that situation where there's going to be a successor. at the problems that are faced in the labor or management regardless of the party. given the gridlock in washington you never have the point where you say i got everything done. so you will keep trying to push your agenda forward but future presidents to learn given the dynamic in washington the agenda with your agencies will be the agenda of the administration.

there is the ability to get the government passed that would be challenging so the billions of dollars that grant money to the federal government, the multitude of regulations and initiatives that drive to government agencies is the accomplishment of what the white house is trying to push. or in the end of the administration the list of things that we checked off. we got health car healthcare pat was an accomplishment.

we got a climate change treaty that we have done significant changes in admissions of motor vehicles and trucks. you can either go about it or get ten regulatory changes. >> it's not an on and off switch. you continue through the administration and i think that even when the vice president was running for president the administration was still working very hard to accomplish all the things president clinton had promised. then to the other part of your question you have a discrete set of people that are working on a transition and so it is not an either or. >> is that an important thing?

>> if you want to get anything done, here is a statement for you. here is another one. the primary reason any government in the world doesn't work to satisfaction is because they don't govern with desired outcomes in mind and there is little transparency about how well they are performing relative to the goals they do have. that is the case of every country and every state. their outcome oriented and tied to the money that is available

and it's not in any specific time frames. it's hard to govern if you have specific goals and make it transparent in how you are performing relative to those. >> the president of shaw remain nameless but in his next state of the union to say here's where i want to be held accountable. here's what i want to be accountable for in six years. you could have heard the explosion you've got to be kidding me you're not serious.

maybe it is too big of an idea for something like the federal government, but the essence of that is why do government the gs don't work better because there is no . here's what we want to do and what we need to go faster on and so forth and there is no transparency to that. >> you get asked the question why do we want to make it well known what isn't working in the federal government, did you ever take an eighth grade civics class like democracy and wonderful things happen, that's what that is.

we've got to figure out how to bring more sunlight to what people are trying to accomplish and when. mountains move when that happens. the presidents management agenda, bush 43 defined outcome goals on the quarterly basis of the evaluated agencies how they are performing relative to those goals and issued a scorecard yellow or green. agencies celebrated when they got to green and it was incredible but congress resisted because it is harder for them to be members of congress. you can't get bridges to nowhere if you have goals to deal with.

there is very little in what we accomplish going on in the federal government. and particularly not in the public passion where did you believe that you'v you're doingt you set out to do. >> [inaudible] i said it had been viable. >> i am a believer that the administration agency has the best effort but i'm not convinced there's one effort. the traditional way the schoolhouse rock version is you get them passed and if that is your version you will be waiting a long time and there's other ways to move the agenda forward.

how much do you depend upon if you are setting aside the team, ththat team is satisfied to help prepare the next administration. is the team mostly the political people you brought with you that represent the agency in person or the civil servants that face ththese day in and day out regardless of the parties and administration. is it possible to sit down and say president obama has a long list of goals and the department of labor that we have yet to accomplish to fight for those every day until the day that we walk out of the building and the responsible decisions that have to be made to help the next

administration get ready we believed the professionals in the transitions to the new administration's regardless of the party. >> i don't think that it's either or i don't think that they are running through the tapes until january 20 and they are binding thbigger binding thd doing this. regardless of who is my successor, regardless of the party, i have a lot of things i want to talk about. what we need to realize is what happens in the vast majority of the government happens regardless. there is the broad agenda and priorities in terms of the programs that we administer and you just want them to work as well as they possibly can.

>> any administration in the last six months but tried to launch initiatives better be prepared to fail at that because it's not going to happen. in my mind of the important thing is the white house and the agency leadership agree on what are the priorities how we are going to run the business the next six months so basically we would all agree they are not going to try to get a new bill passed or cut this thing in half because that just isn't going to happen. so you get agreement and it's

impossible because they just don't understand it. second, because the standard for handoffs between the outgoing and incoming administrations have been sent so high, your objective viewpoint because of the work by obama coming in and british going out, they have to live up to and are mindful to that. and the agencies, the primary responsibilities for welcoming the new team is the career sta

staff. they should get the senior career people who are going to lead this effort and say let's talk about what the priorities are to be into the well organized welcoming strategy and here's the information we are putting together and you've are in charge and then they are highly motivated. they want the new bosses to like them so they will make that the best welcoming party and get them up to speed at a fast pace because then their agency will benefit from that. >> six months from january 20, 2017. in your agency have you had this

conversation? >> it's not to say that we won't continue pushing agendas or setting the table for the next administration of priority as we help them implement but that's what are the longer-term transition issues. we are going to turn the question over to the audience. talking about the transitional leadership of the goal or the idea whether it is the elected

administration it seems to me the gridlock is because the leadership in congress talking about both the house and the senate so is there any attention paid to that? it seems to me if i were president, which i will not be, i would want my guy as much as possible to be in charge of the senate and in charge of the house that i recognize that that has some problems in itself. >> they have no control or influence on that. so in other words, that is part of the environment, it's not a part of president feels like meddling in the legislative

branch. george w. bush, governor of texas charge to you isn' isn't y to figure out how to get rid of the leadership in the house and senate. the way the congress looks is bs the way to congress books and you have to deal with that as an issue. it's not something that . >> it's set up to be independent. >> and early on after either election day you set up between the president elect and the congressional leadership whoever he or she may be. you try as hard as you can to form good relationships and find areas of common agreement that becomes more challenging in the political dynamic that we have right now.

>> it becomes more than normal from the unusual. is there any thought that there would be more continuity of the same people regardless and that mamaybe a staggering of taking over do you think that is something that would be considered in the future. they turnover every two years and they run all the same agencies. they kept them as political positions but i think that there've been 160 or something.

so there is recognition of the opportunity but i don't know if that hasn't been done. >> there's nothing democratic or republican about homeland security or national security and i think having everyone turnover on one day creates ri risk. >> the country of australia when there is a new administration that comes in, the jobs change people. in the united states it's 4,000.

>> the director is a political appointee in a fixed term so as a consequence, he's still standing there in the administration. >> aren't most regulatory boards? >> there is a fair amount into the recognition that we need a central bank working to be in place and so there may be some vacancies but they are not . they don't all leave. >> [inaudible] >> he said please stay in place and tell your people to stay in place until someone comes and

stands down. that is not an unusual practice, but it is possible to do that. >> it wasn't until i had the privilege that i understood the process. so i came from the private sector and had an opportunity to serve president bush that i will tell you it was at my expense to relocate, and it was a long process to go through the security clearance fbi checkpoint and you don't have any security in your job whatsoever, so i came first-term and hoped he got to second term and we did. i was one that got to make

changes from one department to another but i want people to know that it's quite a process from an appointee plaintiff be a and what you are changing in your life, so i didn't come necessarily from the political campaigning even though that isn't how i was known and recommended because the positions i have never private sector independent a community so it is quite something to recognize those that put forth the service for all americans. so i want to say thank you to those of you that have a critical role finding people like myself who never dreamed that we would have the chance to work for th the president of the united states. >> i think you touched on an important topic leaving aside to pay i spent a career hoping i

would never havtheywould never h the senate confirmation. i had a smooth confirmation but you are opening up to a lot of people. i wrote a column for the school newspaper and they asked me to get a copy of every single column i had written 30 years ago. they looked through my social media and one thing i confirmed because the department of labor regulates every company in the country that's right imagine doing that in 2008. you make a lot of personal and financial sacrifices and that is a disincentive for people

serving. >> in the bush administration, we put a letter up in the appointed position and it was scary. it was everything that occurred in your life when it becomes known. so we wanted to say make sure people have an understanding of what they might be getting into. i called the head of the personnel in bush 41. look at this thing and you have to read this before you go in.

[inaudible] [laughter] >> all the leadership is about getting people to do sacrifice and the amazing thing is the people willing to sacrifice to serve. >> people say to you thank you for the service to the country. it is a great privilege and challenge. >> how big is the transition team and how is it formed?

>> in bush 41 it was one person. then january, 2001, there were 600 people. you all had hundreds of people and i suspect by the end of . we had 60 or 70,000 apply electronically. you all have 400,000 people.

we must have had overall 8,000. >> asked one point it was just one person and it starts with just one person. >> at some point he says figure it out. >> and that was a year and a half before the election. >> at some point he says figure it out.

there are those in the institutional memory the first thing i did is go back and talk to jim johnson who ran the transition who included this compendium and the challenge that we face is we are drawing on two transitions that had never been implemented so you can do all the planning you wa want. having someone like john podesta gives an incredible level of expertise. sorry we're out o we are out of. maybe you can ask your question

and then we will . >> the confirmation process is broken and in the transition this is so important. is there any effort to reach out to the senate majority leader and senate minority leader to agree on what the rules might be and how do we get the appointee in faster than we are able to do now? they drive them out of work and

they want to get 400 people. there needs to be 15 but the senate doesn't expand their capacity to and if they don't expand bears and the intelligence department and the state department eightfold flow through the process. so there've been general discussions expanding the capacity but it's got to take place again this year with the fbi and senate leadership. you've got to start with what their goal is in defending me to

sit down with the senate and the fbi and so forth. we are going to be spending twice as many as we do during these months. how can we work together so that's going to get hung up in the shop. even in the best of all worlds the senate doesn't move very fast. it's a body that runs on unanimous can vent that means if any senator wants to block something they can hold the senate off and if you try to move through as fast as you can if one raises his or her hand and says i don't want this person to go through. >> i'm talking about before it even gets to a vote. at this point in time when one or another could win, could

there not be some sort of an effort to make an agreement between the two senate leaders between how they are going to limit the things getting in the way. and i recognize that it's by unanimous consent but it wasn't always so. it was sent up and confirmed that afternoon. it's not impossible. we've gotten into a situation where it seems it is neither in the democratic or republican interests. >> it is also the senate

prerogative. we worked on an initiative to streamline a paperwork part of it to fill out so many different forms and you could ask in three different ways. even trying to get that through is a challenge. >> that's irrelevant if they can't invent reasonable period of time and conduct a separate practice. athe capacity has to be consistent with the volume of

the potential nominations in the white house. >> i want to go back to the point about what is broken in washington and you said it's not in the senate's interest and i agree that it may be individual senators and trust and that's the problem with the congressman and it is the individual member versus what is good for the institution and the country. [applause]

the constitutional issues facing the trump administration and the incoming 115 congress and later a discussion about how the newly elected presidents manage the executive branch transition

c-span was created by america's cable television companies and is brought to you today by your cable or satellite provider. lot legal analysts at thetu constitutional issues facing a trump administration that included the use of executive orders, repealing federal regulations with congress and judicial appointments posted by the heritage foundation and the american enterprise institute. this is one hour and 15 minutes. it's a pleasure to welcome everyone and goes joining us on

the heritage.org website and c-span tv. we remind everyone in-house if you would be so kind to check to your motivated and ready to send e-mails by sending them to e-mail at mac heritage.org. it is my pleasure to introduce the one gentleman who probably needs no introduction and we are so pleased to have president jim demint open this program so please help me welcome senator jim demint. [applause] all >> thank you all for participating. those joining us on c-span was a great event.

this has gone on with greatto t events and the opportunity to talk about the constitutional republic anrepublican things tha country great. today is the wrapup. i won't pretend to get into the discussions that distinguished panelists have been talking a about but i did want to talk about a prospective i think what happened in this election may have preserved the a constitutional republic. we know the laws . donald trump

and the systems he released gave some positive indication it wasn't his intent to selectrr justices that would carry outt the original intent. there's a lot of ways to talk about the constitution and you will hear that today.t we look at what it says, what it means. that is an important discussion. you will hear a lot today about how you take those principles and apply them to regulation and civil society as a whole. but there's anothe there is anof discussion that i hope.

this may seem so basic and we of assume it. they do not understand the need for the principles that drives the rule of law. you have to be able to obey the rules that have it and willingly follow the law no walls can constrain them tha them but we d lawmakers that understand the importance particularly in our case where it is to limit what the federal government can do.t i found a disturbing situation

in the house and the senate. our job is to defend and protect the constitution. we don't make an oath to bringng money back to the states will do what's best for the state. all we do is connect to defendth the constitution. the original post is rarely mentioned again if you stand up at a republican conference talking about a bill and you say this isn't constitutional if it violates the enumerated powers, you will have people looking at you like your crazy but that yot shouldn't be because the purpose of being there is to act and defend that constitution itself. we will talk about how we can use this moment in the countryc

as a whole to remind them why it is based on a constitution that is predetermined and allows usil to build a republic on thosese ideas and what it means and how we can apply it in the new administration because this is an opportunity in a lifetime to reassert the importance of the constitution and the country. i challenge the panel to talk about how to move the way thing are back to the republic that limitrepublic thatlimits what tl government can do.l james swanson is a legal scholar

and advocate of center he was the founding editor in chief att the court review. he's an award-winning author off the best times are manhunt in the chase for lincoln's killer which renders him ishot & is bea series. he's a graduate at the ucla school of law and during thegan administration he clerked on the court of appeals for the dc circuit and served as a legal advisor to the chairman of the international trade commission and served in the office of legal counsel where he worked on supreme court nominations we will desperately need now. thanks again for the panel. [applause]hief your comments reminded me of

something said by chief justice john marshall. the opinions of the court should be understandable to the average educated american. how many hundreds of years agogo to the court abandoned that rule, perhaps at the outset. we have a great all-star panel today and i will begin by introducing them. michael mickey z. to be christie six tha . he served from novemb, 22007 to january, 2009 and he sw international and domestic law. for four years he served as an assistant u.s. attorney. from 1988 to 2006 he served as a judge on the court of appeals for the southern district becoming chief judge in 2000. he's currently in a private practice and received his ba

from columbia law school. as we introduce the attorney aty general i want to make sure we have another that is here and that means ronald reagan's attorney general. [applause] byron york is the correspondent for the washington examiner. he's written on nearly every aspect of the obama administration in 2016, 2012, 2004 and 2000. an account of liberal activismng

the "washington post," atlantic and the university of chicago and washington, d.c.. the fellow at the american enterprise institute. his syndicated column is in over 100 newspapers across the state and he's a weekly columnist and a member of the board of contributors to usa today in aay fox news contributor. in the atlantic monthly magazine be identified as one of the top 50 commentators in america. he was with the political action conference. he's written on the media for a

long while in publications that it occurred on the numerous programs he's th he is the autho "new york times" bestsellers. john yoo is a professor of law at california berkeley and a visiting scholar at the american enterprise institute and the enemy of my law school. the next book on the technologies and future of war will be published in 2017.greatl there's been published "the new york times," "washington post"so and others.

he served in all branches of government and is an unofficial who served as general counsels for ms. and judiciary committee under orrin hatch and was on the supreme court with the court of appeals for the dc circuit. john graduated from yale law school where he was the editor. >> jb. [laughter]n history. and from harvard with a degree in american history. we decided they will not make presentations. we will get regularst conversations with set the stagd for that. does donald trump's victory at present for the rest of the constitution with respect to federalism, human rights, criminal justice, environmental

law, the presidents were making powers. and what about the first amendment and power of the regulatory state would hold the presidency mean for the congress clause in the constitution which a liberal interpretation causes a wellspring as much of the power of the federal government and what will it be i that meane supreme court in the united states.cl .. n this election her supporters had hoped that her first appointment to the court would have allowed her to transform the court by replacing justice scalia. >> she could have brought the conservatism era to an event where for several decisions most hated by the left including heller, citizens united, citizens united and the free speech case.

mr. trump victory puts an end to those plans but what can we expect, how will he filled the scalia vacancy? how should the approach this? is first appointment will not be as transformational as hillary clinton's first appointment could have been. h >> >> >> have one serious occupational defect to be shared by everybody hear i have never been the supreme court justice i can tell you how they decide cases after the elon