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nothing touched a button on the dashboard, started blowing cold air, the radio switched to a st. louis hip-hop station and windshield wipers, wiper fluid, everyone knows about two hackers involved. all of the sudden words like black hackers, ransoms, all of a sudden we are in automotive vernacular. .. with our panel. it's great to have d.c. in detroit.
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i but whoever named the panel commits fantastic. we love d.c. coming to detroit, st. paul what's going on here. so we're going to cover a couple of different areas. the blueprint for best practices, standards for technology testing, legal versus state laws, some national security issues. we will take questions from the audience and feel free to just bring those cards up as they are available so we'll mixed that into the joel dialogue. each panelist is going to provide about a tomb and overview on their point of view on the subject. so we will start with admiral thad alan. booz alan executive and vice president. a leader in the firms department of justice of homeland security business and civil market. elites a development on the future direction of law enforcement and homeland security. admiral alan complete a
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distinguished career in this coast guard and in 2010 serve as national incident commander for the deepwater verizon oil spill in the gulf of mexico. >> it's great to be here today. i had a discussion with some folks from the automotive industry last night and my comments were that this is a very, very important time to be talking about enacted vehicles inside with its associate with economist vehicles. some of the events by work democrat let me to believe there are two things that we'r we havo address moving forward and i think what we're seeing is the convergence of information technology, operational technology. week issued with industrial control systems, anything connected to the internet come anywhere on the internet as we know. i believe it's important we start to understand complexity as a risk aggravated. so technology enables us to do a lot of things but it creates a larger attack service. we move into new areas as a ton
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of vehicles of mobility, we need to understand the convergence of competition, nobility, access to the internet are providing challenges that are unique to each particular type of industry but need to be addressed holistically if we are going to reduce the threat from cyber attacks and the attack surface not made available to adversaries better out of there. this is not restricted to automobiles. offshore drilling units, operate on dynamic positioning and industrial control systems. transportation systems in the energy sector. this is a very pressing time to be having this conversation and i applaud everyone who is involved, so thank you. >> round of applause for mr. allen. [applause] >> i apologize for the sample. i had some work done on my feet last night. >> all right. general mcsweeney, she's been outspoken about -- importance of
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data security as it pertains to consumer protection prior to doing commission mr. mcsweeney served as chief counsel for competition policy and and into governmental relations for the is department of justice antitrust division. commissioner mcsweeney can welcome. >> thank you for having me. it's such an honor to be on this incredible panel to discuss such an port an issue. i really think billington global automotive for pulling together the cybersecurity summit. it's very timely a recession as admiral just alluded to. i'm from the federal trade commission and i'm here to help you. [laughter] you know, going to start with the usual disclaimer. i have some codes are also federal trade commission budget and speaking my own views, not their views and not the official views of the federal trade commission but i will say the following. we are primarily a consumer protection enforcer. generally we think about the automotive industry our relationship to it has been
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advertising claims and issues on marketing to consumers and maybe pricing of things like that, warranty claims, et cetera. but over the last 25 years as consumers have moved from brick-and-mortar world of consuming to online and hyper connected one, we've become the preeminent date of protection privacy and security enforcer for consumers. either also map of consumers to say look, we are at this incredibly critical moment where the security of these vehicles is going to be a really common consumer trust issue, and i think we have an incredible opportunity. as was discussed earlier this morning, the audible to set to catch up very quickly to some of the lessons that have been learned about the cybersecurity in the information technology industry but i think it's incredibly well-positioned to do so. we just need to avoid some of the pitfalls we've learned from other industries are going to
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avoid things like criminalizing hacking, need to work with security researchers and when you think about what some of the best practices are that are associated with good cybersecurity hygiene, at the ftc we talk about starting with security, security by design, because security is a process. as we think about how to take our lessons learned from over 500 security and privacy cases and apply the misguidance, we have generated a document that's relevant for the auto industry but also for the internet of things industry, for the mobile in that space they really articulate a set of 10 relatively easy principles in the start with security initiative. i'm looking forward to the discussion today. >> round of applause, please. [applause] >> u.s.-centric gary peters was first elected to the u.s. house of representatives u.s. house of representatives into the snake, worked on the survival against auto industry in the area during one of its darkest days.
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he was elected to the senate in 2014 and among his many duties in 114 congress he serves on the senate commerce, science and transportation commute as well as homeland security and governmental affairs committee. detroit, michigan, is his backyard obviously. senator peters. >> thank you and thank you for the kind invitatio invitation td b. with this panel. detroit has my back are somewhat to the caveat. you mentioned bringing d.c. to detroit. let me be very clear, i'm and michigander. i say you're familiar with the light bulb system. allows playing system. allows plan and nonetheless plan of washington. i do my job there during the week and take it seriously and will every weekend. very excited about what's happening in the auto industry been through a lot of changes in these last few years but the fact we are now on the cusp of incredible new technologies in a vehicle-to-vehicle, autonomous vehicles that will transform how we get from point a to point b. i tell folks this is the most disruptive technology since henry ford of the first car come
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off the assembly line. this is a really big deal. i'm going to be focused on on te future most all of the states here in michigan from those of you around the country but we want you all to be part of what's happening here. as we work through this and from the senate and from congress perspective and as we work with the regulators that are, this is very disruptive technology. we have a really, really big and serious policy issues we need to think about. it's clear technology is moving a just and unprecedented rates. the excitement i get from engineers, software engineers, other engineers working on this, they see the self-driving cars, outcome just a matter of a few years, certainly incredible fans is that with driver assistance available now and in the marketplace. this is happening a whole lot quicker than i can tell you the public really appreciates what's happening. that's why it is so important we do this right. i'm a believer in what could
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happen, it's going to be incredible for safety where we can eliminate perhaps up to 80% of all non-and paired crashes in this country. autonomous, maybe 100%. it will be incredible to see that happen but if we don't get it right, there's going to be a big setback. and i think about cybersecurity in particular and i really failure is not an option. the auto industry will have the highest bar of anybody in cyber. i was in hearing the earlier panel and bridges, every financial, has abridged even though they adopt best practices, they all have a breach. when i talk to the public i get that. if someone takes your money out of your bank account that's a bad thing. if someone tries your car into the wall when you're in the car, that's catastrophic. and if that happens all the incredible things that are happening with this industry and this technology will come to a halt pretty quickly. you can imagine congress would
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get involved him and you don't want that obviously. that's not something anybody industry wants. to have hearings with what's happening, the technology will go backwards and we will not realize as quick as we should and need to in order to see the benefits happen. we are expecting big things from you all industry. were expecting really big things. we've got to get lucky with the cyberattacks, and at a time when this technology is growing so rapidly, particularly in area of artificial intelligence and deep machine learning which is why as a policymaker, i think us as we set standards they're going to be exceeded and there could be an accelerating rate particularly as ai really takes place. so how do we keep up with that? is it just best practices and do we make sure everybody in the system is doing that? it's been put from i've seen in the financial sector added a lot of work on the financial side of as will is we know the bad guys
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take the path of least resistance. that's often not the main company. some of the financial bridges have been subcontractors that got through. air-conditioning contractors that gets into the financial system and the credit card. you've got to see you all about and the same thing will have to occur through the auto industry. so i look forward to being your partner together. we will be in a position to see this technology move forward and help with this country grow and transform society as we know ant in very positive ways. but failure is not an option. it's got to be zero tolerance for any type of figure, and i look forward to working closely with you. >> warm welcome for michigander senator gary peters. [applause] >> violate doctor more rows than was sworn in as the 50th administered of nhtsa in late 2014. a passionate safety proponent dedicated to enhancing transportation safety. it's been a member of the ntsb and found alert was solution, scientific consulting firm that
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specialized in fatigue management. not to be ignored the fact is also 2015 odd amount of news all start marking the first of our publication has been a regular as the industry leader of the year. mr. rosekind. >> thanks jason. and thanks for the invitation. i'm going to step right into my rope which is the larger context, and it's always in the contra costa with 35,200. that would be the number of lives were lost on our roadways in 2015. 94% of those were due to a human choice or a or. that's the context for all of this discussion. that is why dod admits it is so forward leaning on automotive and connected vehicles. but with all that great technology and i think that's the way to think about this comes double the dose. we know there are bad actors who are looking for ways to compromise the life-saving potential that is out there with automated and connected vehicles. that's the spot we're focused on. i would just say this is an issue where government and
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industry are lined up 100%. this is a place where there are no conflicts. we have to be confident in everything we are doing because this is one where the traveling public safety is essential to everything we're focused on. we have to find ways to make sure in january practice safety principles, all kinds of great action restore. this is an area where we are on same site, find ways to cultivate each other strength and make sure we are as aggressive as possible. we are also to look to be not just cooperative but in this case really collaborative in trying to find ways to protect the traveling public. it's all about safety. >> wonderful. and please welcome mark rosekind. [applause] >> i thought mary basra really set the tone for this discussion by saying this one of a series of challenges that we face. maybe you can elaborate a bit more on that. we look at 50 billion devices a
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2020 as she said, seven per household, the connectivity of the vehicle, market, what do you feel is the biggest obstacle that needs to be addressed going forward? >> the first thing is just the volume, right? i think that's the biggest challenge we have the it was about this time last year at another meeting where we are talking cybersecurity in the morning and a wired article came out in the afternoon. i thought they gave us a couple of lessons. one was within days we had a recall. for a boy who is asking for regulations we have tools to go after it so distorted that it is already concerned about which is if you put a regulation place, how do we go after this speed, the flexible approach we need it the second i remember making a comment about the target is in every scrunch. one of the biggest issues is the volume of what we're trying to protect. given the pace of change that's going to add to the complexity basically of our all those former those are going to be. it's not going to be the big
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hard-won come is going to be this large on the phone with those bolded those are in many, many more because of the volume we are dealing with. >> senator peters, you mentioned the government and speed and that issue. oftentimes we don't associate government with the speed. i don't think i'm saying anything new. >> that's the first time i heard that. >> the of the first thing art is government and industry lined up 100%. as we address about challenge the volume how does that work? how do those two things, lining up government and industry as well as the speed factor related to regulation, how do you equalize those? >> i think nixon was the administered talk about, collaboration to come together. a different paradigm than your luggage and regulations. when i think of the auto industry, fuel economy standards are different than what you're going out into cyberspace. fuel economy standards you can
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set a bar, ask companies to get there. however, they do, the technology to get there, that's great. but just get to that bar. i don't know where the party sat on cyber because it is constantly changing because of the changes i mentioned in my opening comments with cyber, or with ai and deep learning and all these things coming forward. we need to collaborate with regulators but i think there's also tremendous opportunities in once i will explore. i am on the commerce committee, on homeland security committee as well and we recognize cyber is probably our national -- number one national threat. there are incredible resources at the federal government within the department of homeland security, with coast guard and others. we have the department of defense doing a great deal of work. they need to be hardened. my concern that i worry about, thanks i stay up at night are not as much a hacker in the basement, although concerned about them and the impact they
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may have on the example you gave, i'm also concerned the state actors that are engaged in highly sophisticated cyber attacks on us that we have to defend against. when you consider a connected fleet of cars on the highway with a concerted national tag, this is a true national security for mobility that w we need to loosen sleepover and work collaboratively together. i think the federal government and agencies can work in a collaborative way, working with regulators, working with the expertise we have from national defense to work with our partners in private industry. >> commissioner, your view is best practices also need to be sort of sought out. how do you address that? >> one of the things we really learn in the ftc after bringing decades worth of data security cases involving whole different kind of industries is security is highly dynamic space, which is why we've really been adopting every process-based approach to what is regional
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security. starting with security needs, building from beginning with security guards in mind, and you're right, it is a highly dynamic space as the senator has just mentioned. i'm thinking right to a recent report from a couple years ago that said by large the auto industry had not adopted testing necessary, there was a lot of detection software in cars. this is changing rapidly and i think now with the work that's been done over the last year want to recognize the best practices are evolving very rapidly. we need to make sure whatever framework is adopted understand security will continue to evolve rapidly. we are any good position i think because there is so much learning that is going on from the information-technology industry. lessens lessons that need to be learned very rapidly by the automobile industry but i think the capacity is there which is what i've been at the outspoken advocate for making sure we think about working collaboratively with security
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researchers and white hat researchers. one of the things we do have in this country is a really valuable resource. we have really good hackers. not talking about the irresponsible ones, the black hats, the criminals but we have the ability to work with people who have excellent techniques and a really skilled and can be found the resource in making sure we can make our products as safe for consumer as possible. we have to think about responsible disclosure frameworks, other mechanisms for crowd sourcing some of this work because that's how we're going to get our best most secure environment. >> admiral, you spend time in offshore drilling and you mentioned that any opening, now you're involved in other i.t. and ot operations were using incidents in other industries. tell us about what this industry might be able to learn from what you have encountered. >> let me underscore with been said by the others. regulation is not necessary the answer. we used to tell the folks who
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used to work from and the coast guard, regulation is the sum of all real and perceived market failures. they don't look forward. i tried for years as the commandant inside the coast guard to cut down five, six, seven to eight years to get a regulation at the there's an asymmetry between acceleration of the technology cycle and what you need to do to collaboratively produced the outcome the public expect. this notion a coproduction of the outcomes, they will make the system safer i think is what we have to focus on. that is the antidote. it's everywhere. offshore drilling it is used dynamic positioning, not only i.t. and ot together but geolocation as well and that's another issue that can be discussed and i think the right way to do this since the means of production reside in the private sector and is a blurring of lines between what the government can and should deal with the private sector should
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do this need to be a negotiated coproduced outcome. you would get it quicker. you will get a better, and you're going to avoid some of the pitfalls we have to go to the regular process or legislation as the senator said. i don't think there's any doubt you're on the right path spent let me add, for the auto space, when you look at three produced technology and the windows about, enhanced rabbit, we were visibly cameras, 10 years to get to the regulatory. that is not nimble and flexible. >> senator peters, you hit on the state threat. last night ralph nader was inducted into the automotive hall of fame. as you know from this guy in the '60s and '70s it was really the forefront of getting some safety measures through. he said about cybersecurity they're so international treaty covering cybersecurity and no treaty equal anarchy. can you talk about that international aspect of? >> i think we have to focus on
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that issue much more than we have in the past. we know there are international state actors who engage in this type of activity on a regular basis, and so we are constantly trying to defend our systems which we should ever have to be aggressive to do that but you have to stop the folks, these to this could actors engage in activities who are really in my mind often times could be an act of war to break in and steal secrets, private information, activities, the went to say enough is enough and have the world community has to come together and identify. let's be frank, there are only a few, a handful that we know they're engaged in decency there will be significant actions taken against those countries that engage in these types of activities on a systemic way. that would be sanctions or other types of mechanisms. it's got to be two-pronged, enforcement which is what government does come enforcement people do bad things.
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we enforce that i might have been was associate with it but we had to take a broader given the extent of the challenges from sophisticated state actors that will have the ability, especially as get more interconnected in the internet of things. everyone knows our vulnerabilities go up dramatically if we increase our vulnerabilities, we have to be prepared to punish those who are trying to penetrate into that system. >> the previous panel talked tat best practices that were just released from isac at a number of them, seve seven of them government risk, security threat detection, incident response, awareness and training, and collaboration. i'll start with you, commissioner. how would you feel about some of those, or what is your reaction to some of the best practices proposed? >> they sound similar to the types of best practices that we've been underscore in our start was security initiatives that nhtsa underscored in its a framework. and again i think what's important is their technology
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neutral because tech is moving fast and they are process oriented. the ftc which is an enforcer can bring cases when we decide that consumers of david is now securely held. that's part of what we do. so we are bringing cases under a standard that is reasonable security. it's not perfect security but we are trying to articulate what we think the best practices are particularly for the internet of things that the sender mentioned which really increases the vulnerability of consumers and even the devices like cars they will be connecting into those things. what we are kind to do is say look, there's a set of best practices. they involve a serious commitment from the highest levels to make sure that they are being built in and resort to properly and that responsible decisions are made. the good news is we know about about how to do this would well and we need to make sure we make good choices. and then avoid i was in making
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like errors based on that understand best practices and security or not understanding the technology. and i would hold the government to that same standard. we need to make sure we don't pass laws that limit the city process harder for our achieving it here in the auto space. >> add-on the government side of things, market, and increased collaboration even involving academia, right? if you would talk about those efforts and try to get security researchers, english academia and government all on board. >> sure. everybody stay calm under really want to credit the industry because i think in january when the sector and those proactive safety principles to one of those those with cybersecurity. just two aspects, one was an open is to engage the research community, the white house basically, and we've been seeing the. the last few weeks new bounty programs. it's translate from an agreement in the room to like concrete things that are going on, the auto i second start.
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all kinds of interactions. i would say right up to that was announced about a week later we had a small round table of 300 plus people in washington to try to work on nhtsa's approach to what's going to look like from best practices. dissected will talk about that later this afternoon. i would also like to give credit to nhtsa. the associate and administered and i, we're talking about, nhtsa has been hacking for a 15 years. got to get into the safety control systems and figure out what's going on. we have been there a long time and have done all that stuff. having said that though, for all the meetings and progress i would subsidy of the parties it's not enough. that's one of the challenges we have. just for the number, 265 million vehicles out of the right now and that will change as we get to ride sharing and other kinds of mobility models but interconnected and there's all kinds of automation, each one of those is a vulnerability. i think that's what i want to picture with credit for all the
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work that's been going on at the same time say we've got to do more. nimble and flexible for us by watch which i we go forward. that will take some new models but it does not want to give a lot of credit to everybody who's been collaborative but we will need new models, that's the challenge, to finish with this part. on nhtsa is usually swinging a big stick. this is not an arena except for the bad actors. industry and the government are on the same site. where to find ways to make it as open system for communications so they can be quick action when these folders are identified. >> he gave you a lot of kudos for the collaborative effort for the previous panel, but what more can you do from your side to make it more of a collaborative environment with industry? >> i think, when we come up with any kind of our own guidance we had to make sure that they are complemented with whatever the industries do. we don't want to repeat stuff, we do want to interview. we have to find ways they are
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confident to. and a lot of direct conversations. again we were just me with some interesting automakers last week saying this is not a trick, we don't want you to report stuff. watcher reports as we can get the fix. we need to be part of the conversation. i think that's kind of you for the industry which is built around a love competition, this is more about cooperation. this is one where we're all on the same side and everybody has got to be countable this is all for sort of one channel of good rather than thinking that were after of the pieces around the edges. we have to do this collaboratively whether traveling american public will suffer. >> just want to encourage everybody to some questions on cards in front of you, if you want those posed up here. admiral alan, you making do with automakers last night. you lived on both sides of the fence. you've been in government as well as where you are now. how to both groups come together? with the best way to make that happen, that collaborative
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instinct? >> as i said earlier it's becoming a short-lived when the government is responsible for and capable of doing and what the production wen and the prive sector. the government doesn't do exploration but when you have the problem with the oil wealth we had to rely with the government oversight on private sector doing its job. we are overlooking a real positive things happen. over the last few months, the process to which the industry came together and started working in intensity with regulators to come up with the best solution they could. their voluntary standards but the conversation may be more important because it has to change and become more agile. i think that's not just in the automobile interest. is probably everything having to do with the government, private sector, interface moving for because there's this asymmetry to keep forming about the rapid advance of technology, the ability to absorb that.
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so everybody is meeting the requirements. we need to go back and look what's there and significantly enhanced. some things, iso standards, if you have to create a new regulation and there's something you can leverage i think we have to be doing that as well. >> can i jump in at this point real quickly before we get to the questions? i want to underscore the points that have been made that i think there's been rapid progress in industry doing voluntary work, i sat a good example. there's some voluntary privacy guidelines that were agreed to. this is really promising. but i want to underscore the fact that we need to not just built in ever the professional security infrastructure in our automobile manufacturing companies and their supply chains. these are also issues and was highlighted at the end of the less than of privacy and ethics as well. what we are seeing in some of these other technology sectors is a real recognition of
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building with privacy in mind, building with security in mind and building increasing with data ethics in my do so. there's whole new lines of professions in the automobile industry that are going to emerge and they need to emerge relative the quickly, given the speed of which this tremendous tresemme is taking place. at the end of the day, the regulators are here at the forces are here. they covet is your but mostly this is about consumers trusting the products and wanted to buy them. i think that's the biggest stick in the room. >> jason, if i could very quickly, one of the things we're hearing it's going to be challenge is the increase the number resources available. the best practices and the guidances and all the different things coming out. at some point -- that's going to be one of the challenges facing everybody i think it's time to get how to get it integrated and that we are really smooth and effective in that response for things that come up. >> questions are flying in. let's go after them.
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you said failure is not an option. will be auto industry day held liable for auto security failures? >> i believe they will. that's why failure is not an option for folks, is that, these are some of the broad policy issues that i alluded to in my opening comments with this technology moving to the our liability issues, the interest industry, how is this going to change in church with will companies be on the line for errors? privacy issues. there's a host of issues that have to be resolved if we are expecting technology to be fully utilize going forward. i think there's no question industry will become if there's a cyber attack and people get injured and there's going to be costs related to that. but i think what i mentioned in my initial comments is consumer acceptance will not be there. it will be dead in its tracks if you have some of these accidents. i saw a recent report or a survey that said over a majority
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of people don't want anything to do with autonomous vehicles right there. even bigger majority to what of the string go, take human contact of the. folks are barely. unless you ask him linea. they have a whole different view. but folks my age another folks don't want to do that. there's that hesitancy about that. if you have a cyber attack the lead to some sort of catastrophic result, the company will be in trouble by the whole industry. everybody is in this. that's what we're talking collaborative. we are all in this together which is what we have to test together, know that all the companies have to talk to each other. it's a whole different business model in my view, enjoy the experts, where it's not just competitive advantage. you have to work together in order to protect the entire industry or you will be in trouble. >> at the ftc we are also get other issues like ransomware. you can think of a small bar nuisance attack as an equally
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annoying vector for consumers. >> i think we also need to start looking standard of care and behavior. there's a driver and passenger somewhere. i told my folks we buy computers -- if you think about the notion with the car attached be something about factor authentication. what is the responsibly of the operator and the passengers. >> questions about liability already exist. last year when the jeep was hacked, the effect was competent is. we enforce. those tools are already there. spill we also enforce. >> you don't enforce. you used to do. >> senator peters, should we expect partisan politics to obstruct the changes, and if so, obligations? >> i hope doctor copeland we can
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rise above that. i don't know where the partisanship will rise but i'm always amazed at how can arise. it just does. sometimes logic doesn't factor into some of the process. it shouldn't. to me this is a basic in first and foremost it's a basic safety issue that we're going to be able to save lives as administrator rosekind, the 30,000 figure. saving 80% is a big, big deal. not to mention the hundreds of thousands of folks were injured in serious injuries on a continuous basis. hopefully that's something we can all rally behind and understand how important it is. if you look at some exacerbations of the economy in terms of efficiency, what's that going to be as for productivity another we directly translate into a growing economy. it with me which enter infrastructure, we may not have invest in infrastructure which that should be a bad person issue, to say the federal money if we can put more automobiles on any given amount of pavement,
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because of the safety features can we don't have to build extra lanes. you can do that in a safe way. there's all sorts of advantages that will accrue to the government that will hopefully bring us together. >> everyone knows the details of the tesla model and more, you can last week, and said no one is it will stop nhtsa from providing highly automated driving down. the question is do we need to slow the adoption of vehicle technology? >> thank you for that question phrased just right. because i will not make any comments about open investigations, but it was on wednesday and we've been relatively silent on the issue generally and i appreciate action highlight it here as well because with this technology developers, cybersecurity issues, the secretary, dod, nhtsa has been very clear about our living for because of the safety opportunities. and we look -- we cannot wait
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for perfect we will lose two more lives while we waiting for perfect. just science, 35,200 last year, over 2 million injuries, 5 million crushes. this is what we're talking about the toll it takes in lives, money, our society is tremendous. so we've got to be able to move forward to do everything we can. i keep bringing this up because 2015, the number of hotel is what up about 8%. but the first time in a decade. it went down 25% per decade. lest you be lost one-third of the progress. we cannot keep a flood. we can't even doubled the. isomer in a better place. it's not like we're in a good place to try to make a better. we should be desperate for anything we can find that can save more of those lives. >> how does the rest of the panel feel on autonomous vehicles? senator peters decided to sit smart transportation caucus, bipartisan group is looking at innovation. you also have a national test
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citizenship announced for will run. you want to talk about the? >> thank you for that opportunity. it's something i've been focusing a lot on come engaging partners in that as well as in the industry. as the importance of having a national testing and validation facility where we can put these technologies through the paces before they get out on the road, to simulation but also have the track where they can work. it's a new paradigm for us as well and how we test these applications in my mind. in the past, or even currently every company, every company represented, get tested tracks where you touch a bit of which are testing them for competitive advantage and you hide them in camouflage and all sorts of things, keep photographers waiting of the next great product that will give you a competitive advantage over your competitors. in this area that isn't that competitive edge. you all have to talk to each other. toyota have to talk to gm and gm
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has to talk to nissan comments out of. you'll have to be in one place of where that is a great we're hoping that place will be here in michigan. the center from ability is one we're working on which is addition, the university of michigan. this will be they will run facility, old will run those part of the arsenal democracy that turned out the 24 bombers to win the second world war. now can be the place to osha does incredible new technology to bring folks together. we are asking the section of this project, department of transportation to put on the competition for the national testing and validation site. i personally believe no surprise, michigan should be the place because the most competitive, all of the auto companies are here comes a major victory, the foreign manufactures. toyota, nissan, honda in northern ohio plus the suppliers. we also the very vibrant defense sector in michigan with the land
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assistance and research. autonomous vehicles and the defense space is important or it can protect warfighters lives and allows us to use the drones. all that is located here. to put it all together in one place. we are hoping to get that competition and designation by the end of the year. year. >> is anything defense can one from automakers? >> could to be some share in? >> there's already work being done in two d. with autonomous vehicles and efficiency. and reducing the threat to the people that are in aircraft or trucks or anything else that can move supplies, cheaper operation objectives without lies been involved. beyond that there's probably something else. we focus on safety and i should be the most important thing we talk about but as public a chance to do a leapfrog in technology would not only infrastructure that we want this
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world to work in the future. the highway trust fund cannot support reconstruct our highways forever if we get off also feels the faa is looking at nextgen. these are always have more efficiently and more productively use our transportation systems. i think we may be offered a chance that leapfrog generation of technology decide what we want our new airspace and highways to look like, that we can integrate this technology in a not only look at the safety aspects regarding saving lives but how we can make more efficient environmentally friendly and lower cost world that we all live in. >> commissioner smith's we become even asked to elaborate on some of your views on the criminalization of hacking -- commissioner mcsweeney. can you expand on that? >> government should do no harm, so we shouldn't pass laws that are so going to be harmful to the evolution of really good security being wrapped around all of this amazing technology that would go down in the automotive space.
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one of the things we've learned and information technology space after decades of fighting hackers is about hackers are going to hack. in fact, some the best most efficient investments in security research can be made by crowd sourcing and taking advantage of that incentive. we see already i think was discussed quite well in the panel just before this and we see some really prominent companies and even the pentagon embracing this kind of model. because actually it is a sufficient security investment as well. something we want to make sure that we don't pass state laws and we don't ask federal laws that make th that kind of reseah and work impossible to do. absolutely you should be responsible disclosure absolutely they should be bad actors doing bad things. we don't want to facilitate that but there such a thing as really drawn to broad restriction. that's what i'm talking about. we need to be careful not to do that because the fact is, i've been going to hack at conferences for years and i
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wasn't at all surprised by the cheap hack. sorry if many were. but i think it's from established that cars are a huge targeted to continue to be a target. it's that don't really matter what kind laws we pass the for statement or the federal level but we need to be focused on maximizing the work we can do with the research community and bringing it into the security processes that we have and taking advantage of it. >> given the push for collaboration ware d.c. enforcement going in the near future? will be a focus of prosecution for lack of process rather than failure? >> probably the place to start readjusting is passion over the last year and have there's been a real push to move the auto industry to proactive safety culture. cybersecurity a perfect example of the challenge which is double the bill he can and then it is
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reacted. the challenge is how do partner those at least where you know. from a proactive stand but we are going to watch do everything we can on the front end but one of the things we've all learned is it needs to be balanced so when people to violate, you've got to be there and makes a bloody nose that will not be tolerated. >> if i could just add, in the ftc in terms of our data security cases, our standard is reasonable. is not perfect and it is process oriented. but as the processes around security become more established we are looking at things like whether you responsible disclosure programs, whether you are responding, an in these kins of processes are starting to be very important in our assessment of whether data security practices are reasonable. >> great comment from the commission because i will just say, recovering nasa scientist around a lot of the early anonymous reporting system basically with limited immunity,
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and i know a panel earlier today became a, those are the conversations we have to have to make sure that proactive safety means we find ways to get those reported in a wakeup with the vulnerabilities, not as we do lack a stick but at the same time when it's real clear people doing things in a malicious way in we have to have the enforcement strength to go to make sure they don't repeat of that activity. >> question for the commissioner. should to be protections for companies were giunta disclosed vulnerability? should that be criminal or protection for researchers who disclosed -- >> we need to figure how to set up mechanisms that will facilitate that kind of relationship. i think just to pick up on the administrative point, what we want to do is find ways to have security researchers be able to conduct research but also have a mechanism whereby companies cannot time to assess that research, test the research, make sure it is valid, they got
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the right response and also notify customers that this is a breached situation to these are competent areas and i think we can likely come up with a good solution that really protects the first principles, which is facilitating the collaboration and also facilitating the responsible disclosure and making sure one side is responsive but also as time to make sure that response is adequate and sensible. >> a general question for the panel. how do you square the protection of intellectual property rights with the sharing of information and best practices? admiral allen, how do you feel? >> i think there's a process. if you have the communication lines open and you're having a conversation resulting in best practices that were issued, you basically have an equivalent of removing the attribution of things that might be proprietary, and you're focusing
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of the genetic ways you need to attack the problem. i think it's probably the way to think about it. it will put it's about differently in the specific situation you're talking about but i don't think that's a bar and i don't think that's reflected can't move forward and this conversation can be as robust as it has been. >> i'll just add, and to proactive safety principles, one of those have to do with anonymous data sharing. i think we have two great examples for the industry to look out. one is this area where want to get rid of all that confidence of the cisco proprietary stuff, there's a huge amount of data that can be sure that everybody can benefit from. a second example, automated able to there are things that happened that are out there that are relatively unique that everybody could benefit from. again, no real issue about confidential business kinds of information but the thing everybody, i do this, having been very fortunate to get to know captain jean stern, the last he walked on the moon, one
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of his favorite things to say, i'm never going to live long enough to make all the mistakes that could kill me. so that's what data sharing is about. that's what good is safety meetings. it's like learn from everyone else's mistakes so you have to make them yourself. i think those cases, cybersecurity are perfect sense with industry could establish anonymous agent to the benefit of all. >> this is right at the heart of information sharing them with the larger issue of cybersecurity. what you want is the effect of happened up there. you don't have sources and methods on how you obtained information. you can separate of those. >> i want to go back to state laws how do you avoid state laws which otherwise inhibit investment or adoption of certain technologies? >> i think it's significant, we will have a patchwork of state laws. yes in some states pass those. michigan passed one that is very forward thinking, however though the others coming out which is
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what i think it's incumbent upon the federal government, congress to come forward and put a federal guidelines out there, federal law that prevents state laws similar to fuel economy standards but you can have every state has its own fuel economy standards. the same occurs with this industry across the board. that is something that we will definitely have to work on and passed. >> might expect with the coast guard, the best had to make relations when interest came to you and said we don't want 50. then you know that's the time is the role for government. >> what we know from the private data security space is that we 47 different data breach laws and 37 different student data laws. it is an area that, we see a myriad of states take action until the quickly and expect we will see the same thing over time here. >> in january the secretary announced beauty and it's a would be putting out guidance in this area and the four elements. one was operational guidance,
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get the vehicles on the road safely. second was a model safe polesitter with a word with the american association of motor vehicle administrators basic come up with what a model state policy would look like. whatever the in sending the question remains is how to take that model and then see enacted in a way that provides a consistent national framework as opposed to the patchwork. that would be the challenge going forward. when can we check to see that speak with you can ask the second about this afternoon. [laughter] >> kodansha. >> but obviously that model is a good template, attempted for the national template to execute. i think the admiral's point is well taken. it's incumbent upon issue to come for us and let's move forward on this, this is something where we've agreement so don't have a conflict that was brought up in a previous question so that we can get that done. that backs my morning when. the policy has been moving on a parallel track with the
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technology, otherwise they could come to a halt pretty quick and this is a critical piece of that spirit senator peters, let me stay with you for a minute to a few more months left on the benefit will cybersecurity need a new topic of trade agreements speak with i think it should be. it has to be part of a discussion as to mention earlier. yet state actors, particularly engage in very sophisticated cyber activities to steal secrets and use and national espionage to leapfrog their efforts. we would consider those kinds of things active or mostly in the past. we did to consider that as well. i think we are to strengthen the international framework to protect what we have worked so hard to create and put in sanctions against those countries that engage in those. we've got to identify that i know who' who is behind that and those are not easy things to do, but if were able to do that we have got a much tougher approach and we've had in the past.
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>> international conference, and just because some of the recent issue of microsoft and the data storage in ireland has brought to light this is a virtual industry. if you're connected to the internet you're connected ubiquitously around the world and i think that's hardly the next come the conversation, how do you square what we are doing with international levels spirit senator peters, what specific action should use take to punish state actors attack dod or private industry? >> i don't have the framework right now as to where we should go. certainly some of the normal dose you could have would be sanctions of some sort that could be brought against countries. so that's a traditional framework that's used in the international agreements. something along those lines. asked about that would be, you have to balance the severity of the attack, have a good understanding exactly was behind it and some evidence to prove that obviously. you have all of those issues because you're getting with diplomatic issues in addition to
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just strip of law enforcement. there are tools available that would then be escalated. >> following the sony hype there was an executive order issued that it invites something called malicious cyber activity. i've asked the government from to time to define the and i think they will know it when they see it right under that it allows state department treasury to issue sanctions against companies, organizations or people that engage in malicious oactivity. we had a case we can establish what the threat will be. >> in the final two minutes on what each a closing comment. let's give the group in the room something to think about over the next year or two. administrator rosekind, i'll start with you. what would your view be or your question to the remedy when you think about cybersecurity over the next couple of years speak with in this particular area i think our vegas is going to be what we don't know.
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we are already trying to plan, and said about the concerns and boulder police are. i think the areas, the volume is so large and of all abilities so great the biggest concerns will be what are we not thinking about now that could be dangerous in the future? >> sounds like a scary notion. >> i think everything about it now and running those scenarios and come up with it and will be in a better position. but it's changing too fast for us to know all those things that i think we just about to from i to the collective is a proactive way so that always fixing stuff that's already happened spirit senator peters? >> i guess my thought is related to some the comments i made an issue with artificial intelligence and what's happening with machine learning. it's there because of the volume of data that's out there, the volume of information with the internet of things that in order to identify a cyberattack is very difficult. i think it's particularly difficult made in the operational area, less so in the
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financial area. sometimes the initial feeling for operator if you see something wrong with the car that it might be a glitch in the software in the car rather than a cyber attack, and so because of all the items that are going to be connected and all the cars you're going to need machine learning and ai to defend against what's happening as the complexity increases. as that ai increases we know that folks are going to use ai to fight a i system. you have to ai systems going at each other. this is where the gary part starts. scientific reality as it goes forward. how to cybersecurity folks defend can use ai to defend but understand they're going to be fighting ai systems that are going to be very sophisticated against your ai system. >> commissioner? >> i am not so worried about the robots taking over the world, the way think that is something, i mean, i think is a really important concerns and i'm glad you are flagging it.
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i'm really hopeful, i can't wait for the day when i can send my car to take my parents to the doctor's appointments and have a ticket like it's out of school but i'm afraid it probably would not be ready in time for me. i already need it now so i guess my message would be this is a sweet issued i think this has become one over the last year. but cybersecurity isn't just a chief security officers sitting over with some computer programming geeks think about security anymore. it is the core center of this business. so with privacy in those data effects of think there are a lot of resources in this country with fantastic leadership on these issues. i think the auto industry is really well-positioned to take advantage of them, is taking sensible and meaningful steps am quite hopeful we'll get there. if there's one message i could leave with, the consumers are at the heart of this and t the trut for essential of doctor we need this to be paid attention to and resource appropriate at every level.
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>> admiral allen, the last word is yours. >> that's a great segue. i think we need to kind of come to the discussion with the people centric view and what behaviors are involved in all this. my grandson who usually is glued to the couch plan begins as a running around the backyard and as my wife what he was chasing, those pokémon characters. at least is getting exercise. [laughter] i think the interface between human beings and information technology and ot images of social logic of a plan to climate change. i'm not sure we really understand the way you react to climate change is to suffer, adapt or manage. i suspect our summer between software and trying to figure out what manage means. >> wonder for how about a round of applause for our panel? thank you very much. [applause] >> republican donald trump is
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>> c-span, where history unfold the daily. in 1979, c-span was created as a public service by america's cable television companies and is brought to you today by your cable or satellite provider. >> stephen ayers is the architect of u.s. capital, it is a career in 1980 and under president reagan. he will be holding a briefing on the completion of the restoration project at the capitol dome. >> i would like to introduce the architect of the capitol and the honorable stephen ayers. [applause] >> thank you, christine, and good morning, everyone. thank you for coming out today. it is my pleasure to announce that with the talent and leadership of the dedicated team of people that have joined me here today, and many more
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consultants and contractors from across the country, the capitol dome restoration project is complete. [applause] this project was the first complete restoration of the dome in more than half a century. the dome was in dire need of repair, and with the help and leadership of the congress, we repaired more than 1300 cracks and efficiencies in the cast iron. ..
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the aoc's model is reserved and inspire and we do so every day across this cap the campus. but this one project was the most visible of all. the symbol of america's democracy and a beacon of hope for millions around the world and we deliver. our work to serve the people of the united states and the congress will preserve this monument of american ideas -- ideals for generations to come. i am so proud of the team that worked through the night and all kinds of weather, a blizzard,
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snowstorms and scorching summer days. we successfully met our deadlines and is well under budget. i would like to recognize two important individuals in particular. first is joe of greatest. joe is a certified construction manager for the dome restoration project. and secondly, shane gallagher, also a certified construction manager working on the rotunda restoration and these two gentlemen did a fabulous job for the last two and a half years they lived and breathed every single detail of this project. they did a fantastic job in managing a very complex and risky project and for that we are all incredibly appreciated. so let's give them a round of applause, please.
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[applause] now it is so important for us to just take a mo just take a moment to celebrate and share the fine work that this team has done here. sit thank you for joining us today. thank you for your patience as we restore this beautiful building for all to appreciate and enjoy. i'm happy to answer any questions anyone may have about the project. >> i believe it's the biggest cast-iron dome in the world. the top is 288 feet tall.
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[inaudible] >> the question was did we find any historical graffiti or remnants of the original workers? we did indeed. first of course as you may know like to stamp his name on everything he did. montgomery makes here on the dome did indeed stand his name on many pieces of cast-iron and many people see that today is the two were the dome. we have also found some tools in particular a crowbar that will share with you today that was left behind 150 years ago on the project. an employee at the architect of the capitol, al pours carved his name in the plaster nearly 150 years ago as well and we uncovered that. i think it is port.
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>> i mentioned some innovative new tools. what type of work you have to do on the dome. >> reinflate tecog first use in a computer program that enabled us to track these 1300 deficiencies along the way. i was incredibly beneficial for us. they use 3-d modeling to model any of the pieces of ornamentation that had to be recast and use that model to construct an recast the new pieces of the ornamentation on the dome. >> ever ask about why the project needed to happen now? >> we've been monitoring the
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condition of the dome for nearly 15 years now. really started in the early 1990s that we had a very significant water leak in the dome. we found that many of the rain gutters on the dome were completely clogged with the rest that was falling off the dome, clogging the rain gutters and causing overflow if the water that came into the rotunda itself. and so we monitored the deficiencies during those years we had 200 or 300 he had limited 2000, we determined it was time to intervene in the historic and material of the dome and went before the congress requesting money to refurbish the dome and they were incredibly generous and supportive of that
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initiative. >> did you have to repaint any of the paintings? >> question was did we have to repaint any of the paintings in the rotunda? >> there's three of washington at the top which is a fresco. that was not touched during the restoration project. it was refurbished perhaps 20 years ago and is in great shape today. secondly, the freeze of american history that's in the center of the dome, the freeze was cleaned and touched up during this process and then down below the beautiful oil paintings were not touched during this process and they are in great shape as well. >> can use a little more about what it means to have this done by inauguration? >> that's so important for us to have this project done by the
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presidential inauguration. we called this capitol and the west front our nation stage. and as a nation stage, it needs to be beautiful and that is the time that everyone across this great country and across the world will be watching and it's so important for us to have this grand capitol building to look magnificent and to truly be our nation stage during that time. thank you, everybody. >> i'd like to thank all of you for attending today's announcement. i want to add go mr. ayers' remark and thank you are talented and dedicated team has supported the project. on the table to my right we will see examples of the cast-iron use during the restoration. you will also see a cast-iron
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acorn. one assembled in one disassembled so you can see the level of detail that was required through the intricacies of the dome. we also have additional information on the website to use than the address is amc.gov. thank you for coming. [inaudible conversations] >> stephen ayers announcing the completion of the restoration project of the capitol dome. 13 years, $60 million project. a look at some of the photos taken while the work was done on the 150-year-old dome that was
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covered in scaffolding while workers repaired 1500 cracks and replace broken cast-iron ornamentation and windows. the structure 29 stories high according to the architect of the capitol. one of the tallest if not the tallest cast-iron dome in the world last restored in 1959. one goal of the latest project was to have the dome restored in time for next year's presidential and a duration. happening under the new dome today the house financial services committee will be hearing from the chair of the securities and exchange commission mary jo white to announce yesterday shall be stepping down. live coverage issue response to lawmakers questions at 10:00 a.m. eastern this morning he arrived he spent two. the u.s. senate returns today to begin the remainder of the 114th congress.
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transfer talked about the transition process is agency is taking. he sat down for a one-on-one with bloomberg's national security reporter bloomberg government and focused on the nation's infrastructure needs. turn the conversation he talked about ongoing concerns including the threat of homegrown terrorism, lone wolf attacks in the u.s., border security and deportation efforts. [inaudible conversations] >> good afternoon. good afternoon.
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sorry to break up the conversation. my name is josh eastright and on behalf of my colleagues at bloomberg whether it be bloomberg news, bloomberg intelligencer bloomberg government, i'd like to vote in each the kickoff which is a week of briefings, conversation will be host name. we will be talking about the future of work and technology, innovation, law and government. we couldn't pick a better time to talk about any of those topics given the fact that we have a new administration in a new congress coming to town in just a matter of weeks. those of you who don't know us, bloomberg government is all about providing washington congressional's the tools they need to be successful in their work. with infrastructure expected to be one of the very first things they take a look at, we couldn't pick a better topic to pick up
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the bloomberg next series. once the new administration and congress comes to town, we will be tracking the bills, moving through congress, the rules, moving to the agencies, the lobbying dollars for the contrast moving throughout different agencies. for today we've got a really exciting lineup of panelists, panels and speakers and i do want to say a word of thanks to all of ours beakers and moderators and panelists at also like to take a moment to acknowledge our to acknowledge her partner and today's building america's future and in particular building america's future -- great partners. they've been great partners. and soliciting about five feet away. i want to introduce our first
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session today. it's my real pleasure to welcome to bloomberg and homeland security jeh johnson with my colleague from bloomberg news nefeesa syeed. with infrastructure being such a big topic, security is what we have to be thinking about and i can't think of anybody better to have the conversation then the secretary. mr. secretary -- [inaudible] [applause] >> good afternoon. good afternoon. >> thank you from a secretary for joining us. we are excited to have you here at bloomberg. i wanted to start off with a question and then we'll open it up to the audience as well. i wanted to bask in the run-up,
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there is a lot of concerns around cybersecurity. dhs was in touch with a lot of days that have been offering cyberassistance. i just wanted to know less than a week since then what you saw that day. was there an activity, intrusion, report that you can give us after so much concern they did not that time. >> sure, let me begin by addressing the elephant in the room be non-responsive to your question at least initially. the transition we are in a stanford -- this is my third transition that ran through. i've been part of the outgoing team in 2000, part of the incoming team in 2008 and now part of the outgoing team in 2016. i can say with high confidence this'll be my last transition. i very much believe in the
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public servant model looks forward to returning to public life in 67 days and there are two things that i would like to point out. one, anytime there's a transition there's lots of uncertainty and anxiety question about the direction of the new administration will take the government. will they take the government to the extreme left for the extreme right or try to steer a middle course. we will be part of the transition in the cabinet. there are two thought i'd like to make. one, our government is and this has been true since the day the constitution was issued. our government is a system of checks and balance is. they are not a monarchy. we are not even a
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parliamentarian form of government by the prime minister is part of the legislative branch. we have three coequal branches of government to serve as a check on one another so that in a new administration comes than if they have an agenda to take policy to an extreme left or in extreme right, there are other institutions of government to serve as the check on going too fast, too far in any one direction -- checks and balances. that is number one. number two is important to remember that something in excess of probably 90% of the day today work of government
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seems it by the president and the administration is. day-to-day work of government goes on at the gs 13 level, even certainly within our military community, our men and women protecting our court, the united states coast guard. men and women deployed overseas in uniform. only a fraction of 1% of the department of homeland security are political appointees. the rest of government goes on day to day. now, one of the things that i hope and expect will be accepted at purdue much doctrine by the next administration affords this administration will be the importance of infrastructure.
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infrastructure investment and infrastructure security. we've heard a lot from the president elected that investment in infrastructure which is a good thing. but the security of infrastructure, the security of critical infrastructure is something i hope and expect will be accepted as gospel, accepted doctrine in the new administration in the interrelatedness between infrastructure protection and cybersecurity. because there is an increasing interrelatedness between physical infrastructure and cyberspace, cybersecurity. it is critical that the tube be seen hand in glove. not to get to your question. election infrastructure. in the run-up to the election beginning in august, i made a very public and private appeal
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to lots of state and local election systems to seek our help when it comes to cybersecurity. not because we had some very real concerns about the cybersecurity around the election infrastructure. there is a love that exists on the internet but because we want to make sure all of these systems under some nine dozen jurisdictions across the country involved in our national elections. we are thinking about this and doing the basic things they should do to protect themselves. we had our rage from something like 48 states which i was very pleased about. we had something like 36 or 38 dates for cybersecurity assistance of the run-up to november 8. we identified some
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vulnerabilities that i would characterize as not significant, not earth shattering indian connection with the election, we did not say anything that i would characterize as significant. the incidents bearing manner of the type we would expect, but nothing significant and is everyone here knows i believe run-up to the election we did declassify and very explicitly accused the russian government on october 7th of meddling in our political process essentially. the director of national intelligence and i made that public statements on reggae, over seven and attributed to the russian government suit me the
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hacking that was going on the true distinction than between what we can say with confidence about the hacking of various political figures and political institutions versus the election infrastructure is held. we express them and continue to express a great deal of confidence around the election infrastructure. but always do it they can to protect there is cyberspace and cybersecurity. >> we might be some respond to the cyberadministration by january. >> i wanted to then get to transition, just to wrap up on election infrastructure, i've heard you over the years speak about perhaps making it part of critical infrastructure. i wanted to see where that
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discussion is, what progress has been made and how the. >> i said last summer that we would not designate or determine that the election infrastructure was part of critical infrastructure without a close collaboration with the state officials there from the process. we said that in august and that continues to be due. we put it aside for the election because we wanted to, without the distraction of the issue of whether or not they should be good editing critical infrastructure to encourage state to come forward and seek the assistance when needed. it is something that i will continue to discuss with secretaries of state out there and will reach with an
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assessment at some point, but not without close consultation. >> getting back to the transition, we would like to hear more what your role lives and the processes like to be kind of passing onto your successors currently going on right now. >> at some point a transition team will show up at the department of homeland security and they'll be very interested in what we do, what our missions are, where we are, whether the existing problems and so forth pretty much like i did eight years ago when i showed up at the door at the pentagon as part of the department of defense incoming transition team. it took an interesting turn when the secretary of defense was going to stay. so what are we doing? but we actually did have a role to make assessments on policy
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direction of the fourth. at some point the transition team will show up and they will meet with various leaders. i will sit down with the transition team. i'm quite sure to brief them on everything i see, recommendations going forward. here are the things i think they need to focus on. and i know that our leadership team will do the same thing. and it is safe to say and i've given this considerable thought. what i say to an incoming transition team is irrespective of who won the election. it's going to be pretty much the same. here's what i think we achieved in here is what we need to focus on. work is still in progress. i'm proud of the fact that we
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have done a lot in the last three years about how as a department does business with the lot for management reform to approve our acquisition process, a joint requirement for acquisition would raise morale which was a big budget of mine across this department wasn't easy. will have the largest morale. and so, feel as though we leave the department better than it sounded. we do have challenges that remain and i will point those out to the team and to my eventual successor. it is important that we do this in a transparent collegial way
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for men and women that we serve. and i told my people that we should be transparent, should be collegial and work in an orderly transition that is very much in the direction the president wants us to go over the next 67 days. and if i could add one more point, what is your advice for the transition team? one of my models for management style is making no significant decision without consulting all of the relevant players across dhs. don't make decisions and make sure you have a point of view that encourage people to express this point of view to you. that is how help the government policymaking and decision-making should occur. i hope that is the
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administration and the secretary of homeland security encourages a collaborative open environment in which they are included in which he makes decisions. >> are there any concern in terms of the transition working with the chamber the next administration coming on in the campaign that wasn't necessarily have many differences and criticisms of press and obama and how you're going to go to smooth that out. >> i take the long view is a student of history about these things. there is a lot of criticism by the incumbent of his predecessor and there was criticism by his predecessor of his predecessor. if you observed president obama and the first lady with the president which 43, ms. bush was
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the dedication of the african-american museum. you could see the warmth between them. eight years ago the rhetoric was pretty sharp. i tend to take the long view on these things and believe that ultimately i tend to see the best in everybody and ultimately those of us who come to washington to serve do so because we are dead in the best interest of the country. and so, i believe that it is important that the next administration rely upon it by for those across the spectrum and make the best, healthiest decisions for the country, for homeland security and for the
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public. >> sensor is talking about critical infrastructure, i'm wondering what are some of that, things you think the next administration should focus on that you didn't get to her that you would like to continue to see them make a priority. >> well, first let me read you -- i'm going to read to you a summary from our national terrorism advisory system will attend that we are going to issue tomorrow. making news. we went to a new system in december where rainout issue in addition to an tuskawilla on the taxable attend which have a six-month exploration. the current one expires so we are issuing a new one tomorrow, which is largely the same as the
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previous one. this is something that the next administration will have to focus on. since the last in tuscola 10 shooting june 2016 will take a picture of me with my glasses on, our basic assessment of the global threat environment has not changed. we remain concerned about homegrown extremists who could start the homeland with little or no notice. it reinforces accordingly the public constituents and awareness continued to be of utmost importance. this was, for example, a critical component of the swift response in the september terrorist attacks in the september terrorist attacks in new york city and new jersey according to the event since it number 17 through 19th. the other points i make in
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response to the question is what i alluded to earlier. i think it is critical that we work closely on cybersecurity mission of critical infrastructure that to themselves have become more closely at all mind. that is why we are seeking from congress the authority to reorganize which is a national protection program director. commerce on me than to say it. we want to change that into a leaner cyberinfrastructure protection agency of our government responsible for cybersecurity and for critical interest rupture protection. they been asking congress to give us the ready to reorganize into the cyberinfrastructure agency with those two missions
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closely aligned. >> well, i think we can now start opening the floor to questions. if you can say your name and identify which organization you read, we'll have some microphones floating around. >> and afternoon, mr. secretary. thank you for being here. and peter pfizer. i am interested in building onto the critical interest of shared of comments made. the congress and others seem more interested in having the department focusing on urban transport networks and amtrak, potential targets like that. i'm wondering what you think the appropriate role for dhs and the rest of the federal establishment is in cooperating with the state and local
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governments on protecting particularly urban transport. >> as a general matter in the current global threat environment, i think we need to work more closely, we at the federal level would need to work more close late. state and local governments come as data and local law enforcement who are grantmaking through programs such as this woman. security start here. connect plan train and report. this is something that assistant secretary dirk goodrich over there has been a big promoter of homeland security starts with hometown security. in the current environment, we say that we have to be vigilant
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when it comes to public events and public places. that is not meant to refer exclusively to just urban areas, urban transit centers, but we are in an environment we have to be concerned about new york city, major metropolitan areas, l.a., chicago, but also places like orlando, chat to the period that makes for more complicated homeland security environment. so in that environment had been a big proponent of active shooter training exercises. our grants reaching as many communities as we can and that we not focus on one type of infrastructure to the exclusion of others.
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do we not focus on this particular transit location to the exclusion of others. we often need focusing our efforts and in this environment we have to encourage medium-size police forces as well as the larger and to focus on this, to focus on jurisdictional multi-disciplines, responses and training in with the yours as well because of the nature of the current rat. what have to work and we have been working my closely with private security expert, private security forces, sharing information with private security infrastructure but not to the exclusion of any one
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community or any one segment of infrastructure. >> the congressional quarterly. i wanted to ask you so during the course of this administration, 2.5 million undocumented immigrants have been deported. as the transition team comes in, what would you say speed about how much that effort needed to deported as many people over one year. what would it take more people, more money and what would your advice be? >> he would immediately deport 3 million -- >> well, when we talk about first love, when you talk about a deportation force called era of, enforcement and removal operations which inspired isis.
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when we talk about deporting criminals, it's actually our current policy. our current priorities are public safety and order security, apprehending those that are criminals and removing those who are apprehended at the border for purposes of border security. we have focus increasingly so on public safety and border security since the prioritieprioritie s they issued in november 2014. i have said to her enforcement and removal work force, focus more on the criminals. focus more on threat of safety and they've actually responded. so we've seen. deportations that a higher percentage of those removed from the interior are convicted criminals. that is good for public safety
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and because i've asked our force to focus more on threats to public safety and function more like a blunt force and, we are also changing their pace to so it aligns more closely with the law enforcement pay scale and that is something i hope the next administration will can send it to move the direction toward. in general, we are focused on threats to public the and the numbers to reflect that. when we say we are going to deport 3 million people, think about that. that is equivalent of the population of the city of chicago. that's a lot of people. so in anything you do of that magnitude, you've got to get funding through congress. but right now we are focused on
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threats to public safety and we have been the last two years for specific way. >> i was wondering if the scaling up of the operation to do what she'd done over a six-year period in just one year >> we are currently budgeted to focus on public safety. that is where i believe the focus needs to continue for the safety of the american people. >> time for one quick question if there's anyone else. >> john butler with pedestrians.org. part of the resiliency to combat from symbian is redundant to you. how much difference to take looking looking at places where the single point failure and a little redundancy so we can come back with a natural disaster or
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a terrorist incident to take place. >> accessing, minimizing single points of failure is basic linear talking about cybersecurity, protection of critical interest picture on the aviation security in, rail safety, any kind of technology. minimizing single points of failure, creating redundant the is pretty basic. any assessment of homeland security in broad terms. want to know that there are redundancies efficient useful redundancies built into any system that we have. i was reassured that in our election infrastructure, suppose
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this fails, what have you got to back that up. there are redundant these notes into election reporting, for example. if your e-mail system fails up the telephone. if that fails you can write it on a piece of paper and send it in the nearest router. there are numerous redundancies built into things like election night reporting and numerous other things then that the best practice obviously. >> where might we see you after january 20th? >> in now, i'm not -- i can't say publicly, but i will say that i look forward to being a private citizen again, an anonymous private citizen. i will share one personal and to. one of the people i greatly
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admire and public service with cyrus vance, secretary of state. and your courier. i'm a new york lawyer fundamentally. one day i was riding the subway, for those of you who are rail safety specialists here, i love trains. i love the rails. i was just saying to somebody i've written every single new york city subway line except the franklin avenue shuttle. one day i was riding the subway in new york and in the last car i looked over and hunched over a newspaper in a trenchcoat all by himself, nobody noticed him with cyrus vance, former secretary of state. i'm going to be cyrus vance in six or seven days. >> i would like to thank you for your service. my colleague marcia hale, president of building america's future will come up next for a panel. please join me in thanking secretary john did today.
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>> you let us know what happens in the house today when it comes to their leadership election. >> sure, it is basically expect it to be status quo.afe, polygram considers safe despitee the election of donald trump, his leadership team, steve scully's, kevin mccarthy, expect it to stay in place. >> we heard about concerns of whether that would read the very case especially when it
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solidifies them or were there other changes happening before that?ould' >> it's impossible to know what would happen. there is a good chance that members of his own conference, speaker for not fully supportinn donald trump.cu but ironically, in even as trumh has one and installed if it chief strategist, steve cannon, someone who has made it hiset mission, it looks like the president -- the president-elect wants to keep the leadership structure in place.-- r he's appointed reince priebus as his chief of pass. reince priebus as a friend.re that move more than annie named seems to have signaled that the president-elect wants to
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continue working with brian and so we're not expecting any major upheavals today. >> their other possessions and elected against house republicans? >> you'll have to go muche further down the vice chair of the republican conference in secretary much, much more minor positions. people who are not in this posto going to be familiar to most americans, let alone two people in washington although we will have some in the over the agenda of the house. >> talking about republicans ine the house, that even democrats in the house calling for holding off of their election scheduled for thursday. >> the democrats or the losing party here. often when you quickly hold
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leadership election it doesn't end a major change at theco conference doesn't have as much time to digest. they don't have as much to get organized. we see mounting pressure and give the congress more time to decide if it wants to go in any direction. >> is there someone challenging it closely for the decision. the stories this morning so is tim ryan of ohio. it is possible that if you delay succeed a bunch of more names popping up, someone in the mold
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is running for dnc chair who comes from a younger, more progressive wing of the party. t we'll have to see whether they get this delay. >> thank you for your time. >> thanks for having me.
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>> president obama is on what will likely be his last foreign trip as president, visiting greece and later this week germany and korea. in greece today talked about the u.s. commitment to nato and said he was confident that president-elect trump will continue on the same path. here's a look at some of the arrivals.
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[background noise] >> president obama's arrival in greece. he met today with a great prime minister and tomorrow he will be touring the acropolis and giving a major speech about democracy and globalization before he goes on to berlin. from germany, obama will travel for an asian economic correspondent summit before returning to washington d.c. on sunday.
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>> the house financial services committee will be hearing from the chair of the securities and exchange commission mary jo white. she announced yesterday she will be stepping down. she responds to questions from lawmakers about the operation and budget of the fcc. "usa today" reported the stage for a potential conservative shift in the sec under the incoming trump administration. ms. white is a new york attorney, former federal prosecutor. in her nearly four-year tenure she championed aggressive enforcement of work to implement many of the posts financial crisis reforms required by the 2010 dogs were intact. unless the senate approves two
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pending nominees during the rest of this year's term, ms. white's departure from the sec will leave the agents do with just two of its five allotted commissioners. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations]
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