where our author mark stein emphasizes american self-reliance over government independence. the radio talkshow host also recommends to british authors, the history of english speaking people by winston churchill and historian paul johnson's comprehensive history of the jewish faith. finally, hugh hewitt has on his bookshelf a book about the world war ii spy and mark levin's liberty amendments which explains 11 ways to restore the american republic to the framers vision. the full list of book recommendations is available at hugh hewitt.com. >> i think the trend has been in the wrong direction on both sides. congress has not been assuming its responsibilities, which has forced at least this president's to do more things by executive order. there is no question that they should have come together and pass immigration reform

legislation. [applause]. >> they were not that far apart and yet this president and congress would not sit down and talk it through. so, in the book i emphasize-- it does not take-- to change this is those not take but one thing, one person that is willing to be a leader and step up whether it's a congressman or senator paul ryan has the potential to do that kind of thing as speaker. i have a lot of faith in him. or, a president to say i-- i worked all the time with bill clinton. we did not agree philosophically. he was a character, but we talked a lot of times when i did not want to talk. he called one time at 2:00 a.m. the phone is on trisha's side of the bed and she picks up the

phone and she says is the president and hands it over to me and i started saying yes, sir mr. president. i hung up, goodbye and handed the phone back and i said what did he want and she said i don't know. something about central america, but here's the point, we talked all the time. we worked through all kinds of things, budget issues, tax issues, safe drinking water, you name it. did we agree? no, but a lot of times we press each other to the point that we would get mad, but we communicated. that was true with reagan. we met with president reagan just about every tuesday morning that congress was in session at 9:00 a.m. sometimes it was bipartisan and sometimes it was just republicans, so this trend of not communicating is a recent phenomenon work it started developing with the george w

even though he tried hard to get immigration reform. by the way, i say to mississippians that immigration is one of the big issues in this campaign. if we had done what we should've done in 2007 we would not be here now and immigration reform is not just about illegal immigrants. it's about legal immigrants. we have people that want to come into america that has something to offer and cannot get here. one time i had to doctors from canada that wanted to come to mississippi. do you know what that is? underserved medical area, to doctors, highly qualified and you would have thought i was try to sneak in the saddam hussein. so, it started with bush. i saw it coming in 2006 and now this present and it is congress just don't talk. that's why the deficit worries me more than ever. now i worry about my grandchildren. it's not about me anymore or as. about the next generation. congress and the president are not dealing with this.

so, the next president-- all hillary would have to do to be president is to follow the road to a degree of president bill clinton because he did meet with us and he did talk with us or if it is trump someone, some of us have got to reach out and say mr. president, you say you are going to change washington. of the first thing you need to do to change it is to begin to communicate. there are four things in need to make washington work. number one can medication. if you don't talk you won't get anything done. number two, you have to develop a kinship. clinton made me nervous, but we had a relationship. there was a chemistry that made it possible for us to turn that into action and the other thing we have lost is-- what in the hell are we really for anymore cracks do we really know what either side would actually do if

they are in the majority of the congress and how the white house last but not least, i have seen it, leadership. one man or one woman that will face-- the slings and arrows, the median say and we will develop an energy policy in america. we will have all of the above. we are going to do it, so it could change on a dime. it's going to take a person of strength because i have seen it. washington is a tough place. i rode the high road and i got knocked down into the valley, but the best thing about being in the valley is you learn when you get back up how you can do things better, so it can change. i don't see it right now. i don't see it with mitch mcconnell. i don't see it with nancy pelosi

i do see hope in paul ryan. i don't know what to expect from chuck schumer who will probably be the senate democratic leader. he is smarter than read and every bit as partisan as harry reid, but there is one difference, he's transactional. you can do business. they don't say at that weight in new york city, but they understand, so there is some hope out there, but it all begins in the white house. we have got to get different tempo coming out of that place. >> you can watch this and other programs online at book tv.org. >> every weekend a book tv brings you 48 hours of nonfiction books and authors. here's what's coming up this weekend, saturday at 6:45 p.m. eastern david baron, circuit

judge for the us court of appeals for the first circuit provides a history of the debate between the executive and legislative branch over the constitutional right to declare war in his book: waging war. joining him at the national constitution center in philadelphia is the it or rogue or, dean of of pennsylvania law school. >> the two branches are really in a dance with each other all the time. congress checking the president, backing down from the president, president cooking congress-- >> sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern on afterwards a guardian journalist looks a gun death in america over a 24 hour period in another day in the death of america, a chronicle of 10 short lives. he is interviewed by williams, a staff writer for the atlanta. >> it's a kind of broader societal thing, which counts

people out, dehumanizes them and then when their life is taken-- well, that's already been accounted for, but yeah, i think there is a real problem once you start saying, well, he was on a student. there's a grade that you could get where it would be where they. >> go to book tv.org for the complete weekend schedule. >> grover cleveland is interesting. you can win a trivia contest. he won three national elections in a row, but as is the peculiarities of the american democracy it's that electoral vote that matters as samuel hylton found out in 1786 and grover cleveland found out when he won the popular vote, and

when the popular vote again, but wasn't president. when the pop their vote again was president again, the only person to have two nonconsecutive terms. >> do we contribute or blame our presidents too much? guest: yes, i think the founders would be pretty shocked to find out that for basically-- certainly since franklin roosevelt that the president has been by far and large the most important person in the government. they always assumed there would be times as there were in the 19th century when what happened at the other end of pennsylvania avenue on capitol hill mattered much more than what the executive was doing and presidential powers weren't sort of associated with impulsive personality, but we live in a media culture and there is something manageable at -- about the similarity of the presidency and so we tend to end congress seems willing to go

along with this and sort of have moved everything to the other end. host: before we got started here we were talking about the gettysburg address and abraham lincoln. what were you saying? >> i was wondering in this age of immediate even with wonderful glorious c-span whether we know how important it was. it would be very clear that only you would cover it and chances are that the networks and cable might say there's a dedication of a cemetery, but i can imagine that cynicism of someone standing up-- while he was talking the president came to gettysburg to try to distract attention from his disastrous military campaign out west and we would never hear it. we hear it from you guys, but then with this tsunami of all the information, would we know 1503 years later that this is the declaration of