a discussion of the 1941 attack on pearl harbor on the eve of the 75th anniversary. we are taking your phone calls, tweets and emails from noon to 3:00 eastern. go to booktv.org for the complete weekend schedule. >> it is surprisingly hard for the media to debunk some of mister trump's statement in ways which the people who believe the statements will find convincing. one thing i talk about in the

book is about a movement which is essentially a reaction to enlightenment rationalism. of rationalism focused on the use of reason, and based on evidence and facts, a reaction to that is part of the broader romantic which says no. what matters most is identity and solidarity, my relationship to you, which very quickly is key in this, and association with authentic language, national community, we talk honestly and often decision,

being authentic is something in the eye of the beholder but people who struggle to appear authentic and who won't leverage or exploit the idea, really begins in the 19th century and famously in the 1930s european fascists in germany and italy, often to schism becomes central to their appeal, and they find hard to distinguish themselves in the way they speak from traditional, rational politicians. they focus much more on the story, particularly stories -- we are together, unlike you. i speak like you, understand what you're going through,

together, we can ward off the threats of them, whoever them might be. they might be the elite according to the member's belief. day today, might be the elite technocrat foreigner, immigrant, and us in the context of honest, hard-working middle-classes left behind by globalization, whose contribution is not properly rewarded or accepted or understood and whose values are undermined by multiculturalism or political correctness. donald trump only has to mention political correctness and a spontaneous cheer. there is a sense of culture

being stolen. in that context what matters to audiences, does the story ring true. does it feel emotionally true, and it is actuality, whether it is literally true or not does not matter. trump debunking fact checking and debunking individual statements by donald trump may well absolutely convince the readers of your newspaper or the viewers of c-span but they never believed him in the first place. they think it is the elite media trying to shut donald trump up or damage him because he is telling the truth. >> you can watch this and other programs online at booktv.org.

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