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we are moving today towards an aids regeneration. if we keep pursuing it. i've always respected him for that. bill clinton and i had a good relationship, and mrs. clinton. because i with you when you first got here in 93 and was here when they were first tried to put the health care bill through. so i got to know them very well. they are wonderful people. mrs. clinton is smart and tough and quick and funny and listens to you, and then tries to, she's a good lawyer. she tries tries to jerking around what she wanted to. my experience with both of those presidents was good. >> host: any regrets of decisions you made during your time here? >> guest: no. no. this is, politics is the equivalent of war without guns. so it's a tough business. and you get beat up and you make
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mistakes and you get wounded, and you've got to get up the next day, put on your hat and your coat and go out and do it again. not every day has been perfect, but i'd like the opportunity to be involved in trying to make this site better for most people. i don't worry much about which people but i worry a lot about ordinary folks because i came from ordinary folks. i understand, my father was unemployed. i know enough about what it's like to be at the bottom. i had to work my way to medical school and everything else, so i don't have any illusions that i got there without somebody else helping me. people helped me all along the way and i really wanted to be in politics to be able to help people reach the maximum potential. >> host: you mentioned the amount of the trip she took as a member of congress. any one of them stand ou up to , or a couple of them?
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>> guest: well, i've had a number of trips that have been, when i first got to congress, the banking committee, the berlin wall had just fallen and we went to see what the eastern european banking system was going to be like. we went to budapest and warsaw and prague and belgrade in east berlin. that trip had lots of impact on me. >> host: in what way? >> guest: well, in terms that seeing what what these people had lived with and how quick they were ready to come back into the system. i mean, your later someone from czechoslovakia said the youngest member of his parliament to tom foley, and said, teach us how to run a congress. and that guy came over, tom sent
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him over to my office, his name was martin verse six and martin burson was in my office, and i had an opportunity to help shape the beginning of the parliament in the czech republic. i mean, there were so many things that have happened that were related to trips that i took. i took trips to africa. i went to india in 1991, and i went there are 30 times afterwards because i fell in love with india. it's the most complex country on the face of the earth with six major religions and 18 official languages and north and south and muslim and, you know, it's a society you never totally understand. and i helped deal with their aids epidemic. the last trip i made to india they gave me a lifetime achievement award from the aids foundation of india. i'm very proud of that. i mean, i'm prouder of that then rising sun and star which i got
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from the japanese government. i been to japan about 4 40 time, so i know the japanese. i've known them at every level of government, and so those kinds of connections i'm very proud of and pleased to have had the opportunity to have that kind of connection. >> host: what will you miss about congress? >> guest: every day when i get up i open the newspaper and somebody has done something somewhere, and that means the day here is going to be different. when i sit at home now, after this, i'm going to open the newspaper and somebody is going to have done something somewhere and i'm not going to have any part in changing it. that's a real, i mean, i look at that and i think, you know, how do you make yourself feel relevant? how do you find, i mean, i gave it up deliberately, but there's
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a bitter sweetness to it. on the one hand i loved what i did. i love to being in congress. i have nothing bad to say about it. it was tough. i had hard days and real tough things, but in the end i loved it. but there comes a time when you have to say it's time for someone else to do it. >> host: what were the low points of your career? >> guest: probably the lawsuit and whole business with john boehner. when i get into that i didn't quite understand everything i was going to learn in 11 years of the lawsuit. you learn a lot of things. and i'm still here and both newt gingrich and john boehner are gone. you got to ask yourself who won? they got to be down to who wins
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and who loses. i was defending the first amendment right of the press to publish things, and they were saying that i invaded their privacy. well, the courts came down, however they did, but the "new york times" can still put on a front page of the paper anything that comes in that's legitimate. >> host: john boehner did to you for a tape that was illegally obtained. you released it to the media. the courts decided against you. what impact does that have on you? >> guest: i'm still here. >> host: zero impact? >> guest: with my constituency they thought it was good i took on john boehner and that it took on newt gingrich. the fact that that tape, i didn't do in using illegal to get that tape. i did do anything at all. this couple just came up to be out in hallways and handed to me and said listen to this. and handed it to the "new york times." and the courts, it's a long story about why they came down the weight did, but joh john bor
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tried to drag me out of congress, and he didn't do it. i told him, i went to matt tried to negotiate, and he wanted me to go out on the floor and admit i broke the law. i said i didn't break the law. i'm not going to do that. and he said well then, we are not going to settle this. i said okay. >> host: did you ever talk? did the two of you? >> guest: not about a game. we talked about his showtimes and i tried to negotiate. i gave him as many ways as i could figure i could give him what he wanted or some of what he wanted, but he wanted to go out and admit that i broke the law. but i never did break the law. >> host: what we do not miss about congress? >> guest: -- what will you not miss about congress? >> guest: i will not miss the plane flights. >> host: all long way back to washington state. >> guest: i have three point 85 million miles on, because i
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went back to 35 times a year back and forth. i believe that going home to district is the key to keeping yourself in congress, and i was so and i was at weddings and funerals. you know, all kinds of meetings, and they always call me. and i was there try to to find out what was going on. but traveling back and forth, i mean, i never complained about flights because as i say, i knew where the capital was when asked for the job and they didn't move the capital, and i could quit quit you need that one. so shut up about it, but believe me, i won't miss and going out to the airport and going through tsa. >> host: where will you travel with all those frequent flyer miles? >> guest: i would pick and choose. i will still travel. i love to travel. i've been in 101 countries, so i've been traveling since i went to ghana in 1961, so way before ever got to congress i was traveling.
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>> host: what was it like to pack up your office and go through all of those 28 years here in washington? >> guest: very exhausting. walking down memory lane, taking down 28 years of paper that you collected and trying to decide what you put inbox assistant to the archives at the university of washington is very difficult. because in part my staff didn't know with those issues were about. some of the things they weren't even born when i was working on these things in the congress. so they would bring to me me, ty bring the nation safe should we say this, is as important? and in my mind would start into all of the aspects of what the issue was all about. so it was a real exhausting walk down 28 years of experience. and, of course, it changed. at one point we stopped having paper and it's all on hard drives. we had all issues of what you
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want to say for future historians to go and look at? if you want to look at the aids epidemic and what jim dermot did it in, you've got to go so we had organized so people can find stuff. >> host: where will this all go? you mentioned the archives. what will they be used for? >> guest: they have a public officials archives there, warned magnuson and senator jackson and tom foley. i guess tom foley is not there. brock adams is up there. there's a number of washington state politicians that you can get an university of washington. >> host: who would you say that you might miss from congress? any relationships that you had over the years that were special? >> guest: well actually three of us are going out the same time who are good friends. lois capps from california and sam farr from california and me.
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we were good friends and had a very warm relationship. the other person i am leaving behind is also a very good friend is mazie hirono. she was in the house in which he came to congress she and i became good friends. and so george miller, there are probably two handfuls of people that i would spend some time with after i leave here. >> host: what advice would you give to younger members of congress about the key to having a successful congressional career? if you want to stay around for many terms like you did. >> guest: well, i think the advice i would give to anybody, given the situation we have today, we've got to get back to listening to one another. and even if i disagree with you intensely, i've got to listen to
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what you think. because you might have an idea that i should incorporate in what i'm doing. and i think the lack of people getting together and knowing each other is really the biggest problem we have. partly, we used to travel together, we used to go places together. they brought their families or to washington, d.c. nobody brings their families here anymore. so members just come in, they are here for three days, they sleep in the office, they are gone and you don't get to know anybody. and if i know you and i knew about your kids and your husband and your grandmother and your father, i then have to think, i had to listen a little more carefully to what you say to me. if i don't know you as a human being, i could say, well, she's a crazy, you know, this or that and put you in a slot somewhere. and i think that that's the best
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advice i can give to people, is listen to the other members. get to know who they are. wal.walk around, talk to them. talk about something besides politics. i learned a lot of stuff in the gym. i learned, you know, i mean, i got a guy from alabama down there whose washington annabella have been paired in the peach bowl -- and alabama have been paired in the national championship. he and i had a big discussion today and it turned out he played on the team. and so, he he was a walk on, i guy named palmer from alabama was a walk on, and i never knew knew that before. well, so now i think of it to billy. his politics are way to the right, and mine are somewhat to the left. i'm at least across the middle, but i now know more about gary than they did. and that makes it possible for us to talk about issues. >> host: if you could change
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something about how you have to run for congress, what would it be? >> guest: i've always been for public financing. i think, if you're running against me, i ought to have a certain amount of money and you ought to have a certain amount of money, and we ought to have some free tv time so we can get up there and people can look at us and decide them to i like him or do i like her? and listen to us, and to questions from probing people. but right now if, when i was in the congress, i won by 80% again and again. so if you tried to run against me you couldn't raise any money. so i had all the money money, by face on tv and you did nothing. so what you need is the balance of the field so that people can see real choices. >> host: what impact would that have on this institution? >> guest: well, i think you'd have a lot, a lot of people wouldn't come back because if
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they were up there and had to face an opponent who had an equal chance, then it would be a totally different thing. i mean, i could just ignore people who ran against me because i didn't have to. they couldn't raise any money and i was going to have the television ads, so why worry about them? that's not good for the system. good for me here it's good for jim mcdermott getting reelected, but it's not good for the system. and the system would be much better with public financing as much as a have in england and some other places for the campaign is a month-long and people stand up and say what they're going to do what they're trying to do whatever, and people then make a choice. that to me would make the system better. >> host: congressman jim mcdermott, thank you very much for your time. >> guest: my pleasure. >> joined us on tuesday for live coverage of the opening date of the new congress.
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>> more than 300 members of the uk's youth parliament gathered in a british house of commons for the annual debate. this first part focuses on the uk's national health service with a focus on mental health services. it's 50 minutes. [applause] spectacular much for that. you are a very friendly bunch picture i must say. the previous years the youth parliament hasn't been friendly, it has, but thank you. order, order. welcome to the eight sitting at the uk youth parliament in the house of commons chamber. this marks the beginning of uk parliament week, i program of events and activities which
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connects people with the united kingdom parliament. this year the are over 250 activities and events taking place across the uk. the issues to be debated today were chosen by the annual nature marked ballot of 11-18 euros. the. the british youth council reported, but once again the number of votes has increased with 978,216 young people casting a vote this year. today, the uk youth parliament will choose the issues which it wishes to have as a subject of its priority campaigns for 2017. this years youth parliament also marks the third year of the memorial award which was set up in the wake of the passing of paul bosket wh was one of the
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driving forces behind the uk youth parliament and the british youth council. british youth council support workers, parliamentary staff and guests will have the opportunity today to vote in two categories, best debate lead speech, and best backbench contribution. presentation of awards will take place at a reception in january of next year. today's proceedings will be broadcast live on the internet. members of the youth parliament, as you know, at 11:00 we will observe two minutes silence for armistice day. we have a tiny bit of time before then, at a just just want to take this opportunity to underline what i think should be obvious to you, and that is that everyone here present, i feel
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this very strongly, the leader of the house of commons, david lullingstone from whom you will shortly here, the chandelier of the hous house of commons, the minister for civil society rob wilson, all of who work in the service of the house, all who work for the british youth council, all of your support workers here present and many besides are wishing you well. we are cheering you on here it would be absurd for me to say, if you know you're going to be speaking or if you hope to speak, don't be nervous. of course you will feel a great sense of occasion, and it will be strange if there weren't a real adrenaline running for you. ..
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house of commons mr. david lidington. [applause] >> mr. speaker thank you and thank you to members of the youth parliament could mr. speaker i think you and i would probably both agree that the great things that we have received are a welcome contrast for the time that we may get from our colleagues from normal working sessions. i would like to say first that it is appropriate that the this session should take place on armistice day. here in westminster we remember not just those who died but also the importance of the values of parliament, the principles of a democratic and free society for which they made that sacrifice and the shield that you see at
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either end of this chamber has been inscribed to recall the names of those members of the house of comments who fell during the first and second world wars along with those who in more recent years were murdered by terrorists who also sought to attack the democratic values and institutions of this country. those principles of democracy, debate, tolerance and accountability unites members from all political parties on both sides of this house and the leader of the house part of my role is to reaffirm and uphold those ideals. i wanted to explain mr. speaker two colleagues here a little bit about my job because it has two parts.
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it is in part representing the government in parliament where i sit as a member of theresa may's cabinet and i'm in charge of managing the government annual program. but also representing parliament and cabinet and in government as a whole and this notion sometimes comes as a surprise to those who may think harlemite and government are essentially the same thing. after all there are constitutional systems the government stand on its ability to command authority here in the house of commons. and it was not for that majority of my task trying to deliver the government -- would be a bit more challenging but for parliament to matter, for parliament to play its full role, a distinctive role of public life it is essential that it's able to operate as a strong independent institution in its own right so this chamber has
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been performing that function for hundreds of years. the scrutiny of legislation by members, their questions every day to ministers, the work of inquiry by the select committees of the house results and we hope better and more accountable government and certainly better quality legislation. that oversight work, that's scrutiny by parliament underpins the concept of ministerial accountability. in the british system ministers who are themselves members of the legislature also have to stand at this dispatch box or in the select committee and be questioned and held to account for the decisions that they have taken as part of the executive. thanks to you mr. speaker the increased use of the urgent question is made parliament even
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more responsive to most pressing matters of the day even though it occasionally causes a certain amount of discomfort to ministers when they summon their actual motives. parliament's ability to reflect the concerns and interests of british citizens depends on its status as a representative institution. this house has a proud history of ensuring the voices of marginalized and socially excluded groups are heard and reflected in public debates and it is probably a little known part of the routines of pretty well every member of parliament regardless of party, regardless of the county they represent but their work brings them into contact week by week with people from every part of our society and we in that constituency will
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have to confront head-on those who are the victims of injustice or those who feel that society in some way is not working for them. and as leader of the house, i think that tradition of all parliament is something which it is of vital importance that we uphold in which the government too must support. our objective must be nothing short of trying to build a democracy that works for everyone and critical to that objective was assuring the voices of young people of their interests are heard loud and clear. that is why the government not only supports the youth parliament in its mission but also takes an interest in the subject which you choose to debate. previously the youth parliament members have debated issues such as mental health, the living wage and these are all extremely
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important questions and so too are the issues you will be debating later. i am particularly interested to hear when i read the accounts of today's debate your consideration of how we might seek to build a better kinder democracy to take the wording that you will be debating later on. so my message to colleagues from the youth parliament is that just as the government is committed to engaging with parliament so it will continue to take a great interest in the work of the youth parliament too and that's why it is significant and right that they annual sitting takes place where we are right now. this chamber is the united kingdom's parliamentary democracy and the fact that these debates take place here sends a signal about the importance of the uk youth parliament but it's the
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parliamentarians and the government it means that both mps here in the house and ministers in white falls will be listening to hear what you have to say. i hope you will go away today not only having enjoyed and relish the experience but also with a sense that you will feel confident about communicating to your colleagues and contemporaries that this is their parliament as much as it is the parliament of me or my colleagues in government or colleagues in the opposition or even you mr. speaker. it is the parliament of young people as much as of anyone else this is still the place where you can seek to change this country and its society and the way that you think it needs to be changed for the better and of course there will be many different ideas, contested ideas
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about what change for the better actually means. that is what democratic debate is all about but too often in the united kingdom the voice of young people is absent and with the boys -- with the vote of young people is absent decisions are still taken which affect young people's lives but which they have not always chosen in significant numbers to help shape the opportunities were there. so i hope that you will take that message back that this is a parliament for you, for all young men and women in this country, seize those opportunities, enjoy today and help us build that better more vibrant democracy which those of us here on both sides of the house also long to see you. thank you.
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[applause] [applause] >> thank you very much. i called lawand omar to come forward and read a message from the prime minister. [applause] >> thank you fellow mps. i would like to welcome you to the house of commons into the uk parliament. congratulations to you all for your fantastic achievement in this year's -- understand just under 1 million votes were cast. this represents another year-on-year increase in the number of young people voting and this is great to see. thank you all for the effort you have put into this worthwhile democratic campaign. i believe part of government's
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role is to build a better and stronger democracy for future generations. i want the uk to be the meritocracy of the world in a fundamental part of this is to ensure that all young people get the best start to life. i am determined to build the country that works for everyone and ensure that young people could go as far as the talent show regardless of their background. uk youth parliament is a wonderfully inclusive example of democracy in action. you come from all different backgrounds and represent the breadth and the diversity of our society today. this opportunity is one you can use to build the skills you need to succeed in life. by being part of today's event you are or were they on the path to making a positive change. the points you make today are valuable and it's important that we listen to you. i hope you have a fantastic day in the commons and i wish you
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the best future. [applause] >> thank you very much indeed for that and our thanks of course to the prime minister for her support which is extremely important to the uk youth parliament. order, order. the youth parliament will now consider the first motion of the day. we must stop cuts that affect the nhs. the motion is printed on the order paper. to move the motion i call from yorkshire expecting a very warm welcome from you all, ashley gregory. [applause]
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>> thank you mr. speaker. in 1942 sir william beveridge said medical treatment will be provided for citizens by national health service and the nhs is worn. four years later the national health service is provided for kalamazoo people across the county and provides a bare minimum. the government sets out plans for the nhs to make 20 billion in efficiency savings. the important issue is whether or not this will affect the quality of service it has provided. it's more than double the amount the government spends on the entire transport department and we mustn't under stress and make the scale of savings that are to be made. these savings affect all the attractive amount of time you wait for your doctor to the availability and your local authority. we have already seen the
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devastating effects these cuts are having. here the proposals in this department and given the go-ahead to centralize services in halifax meaning of people needing often lifesaving treatment are having trouble getting this. we must have our interest -- and stop the cuts. the local level many services finding the funding they receive per patient is reducing for this include services such as school nursing. if they are vital services. the health scare is becoming post-care lottery depending on the funding of local area receives readily this is fundamentally wrong. over the past to the uk youth parliament has been campaigning to improve mental health services and we have seen amazing changes especially where we have met with service providers. we should continue to improve mental health services across the country.
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this cannot be possible if we allow the devastating cuts to the nhs to take ways. this will dismantle damage and dissolve national health service services that we all know and love. everyone has mental health and the court should not put this at stake. we should be lopping local nhs and unions to protect services specifically for young people pay to me that one available appointment in your department could potentially be the difference between the life-and-death threatening situation. the nhs is a complex issue but that doesn't mean the change is impossible. change happens when you fight for what you believe in. change happened in 1948 when the nhs was founded and change can happen here today in this chamber. the nhs will last as long as -- and i ask you all a question do you have the faith to fight for your nhs? thank you.
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[applause] [applause] >> ashley thank you for a very fluid and assurance start your proceedings. to oppose the motion i call from the east of england hoping and expecting that you will give this speaker and equally enthusiastic and warm welcome, nicholas gardiner. [applause] >> thank you. the national health service is one of the uk's greatest institutions. based on the privilege of universal health care and a core principle that we should protect and preserve. however, it would not be an understatement to say the nhs is one of the most suffocated aspects of government with so many moving parts and the
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question i pose to you today is this. what lasting change can we really make on the sprawling beast and while these are challenges that are great in our time is short with we have an issue that is so complex and so fraught with difficulty, a here spent on this campaign would be a here spent just trying to get grips with the issues that face the nhs. cuts could steer us away from the true issues of the nhs, maintaining high standards shorter waiting times, less bureaucracy or greater services. our doctors and nurses are some of the best in the world but we must ensure they are able to continue to deliver high-quality
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of service in the climate of great old prussian. policy mr. speaker it's key. is the nhs really without money? dandridge's and just writing a blank check this and raise standards. we have all had experience as demonstrated in our parliamentary health campaigns and should we wait for nhs driven by quality of service rather than quantity of money. finally, what would a national campaign that like where health services are dealt with on a local basis? county, not countries responsible for many of our services now and issues may not be the same in the northeast as the southwest. we struggle to coordinate a national message as we face different issues from nhs trusts to nhs trusts.
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now, we young people should give her undivided commitment to health care free but this campaign is not the way to do it and i am willing to fight for the nhs but it must be one worth fighting for not one that may waste money on aging infrastructure but a high-quality and safer in the works for every young person and benefits every young person across this great country. thank you very much. [applause] >> nicholas, thank you very much. now i would like to call the speaker from scotland. is the speaker willing to contribute from scotland's? not if you don't want to. yes?
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very well. >> the nhs was created to ensure that poverty and the pain and suffering before the war -- but if we can connect with everyone regardless who they are we have the supported to the nhs is one of the most important institutions in the most is important is just in the united kingdom and we must do everything we can to protect it. [applause] >> who wants to contribute from wales? is anybody here from wales that was to contribute to this debate lacks not if you don't want to. you do. the gentlemen here. >> the nhs is one of united kingdom's national treasures. it's a neat virtue of our
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country. very few countries have a health care system like our own and therefore we need to preserve it and move towards stopping cuts that affect our nhs. i feel very strongly about this issue. he worked so very hard to improve our health care system so we should work equally as hard to help preserve our health care system. thank you. [applause] >> every year i always strive incredibly hard to get almost an exact, almost an exact gender balance insofar we have heard from the man. we have a female speaker from the west midlands?
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no, not in this debate? in this case i'm going to look somewhere else. who have we got two wishes to contribute from the southeast? anybody from the southeast? >> your moment here. >> would the recent fall uk economy is much weaker. cuts to services and is transformative as the campaign sounds is not achievable. how are we as the youth parliament going to convince the government? i think we should focus where we have seen a change in the year. [applause] >> what about the northeast of england? have we got anybody wanting to contribute from the northeast? please. >> the nhs is at the heart and soul of each of our lives from every birth to every death dealing with the physical and
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emotional pain that we suffer. to fund the nhs is not just the first step that we need is for our future. as nyp's we have to think about what we want out of our nhs. i would like to guarantee the free service throughout my life made for all young people and for everybody that deserves it. [applause] >> thank you, hanna. i was a convincing speech and a speech delivered without it -- that was quite outstanding, well done. have we got anyone wanting to contribute to this debate from northern ireland's? not from northern ireland's? okay cool who is the guy from london who wants to take part in this debate? what about the young woman in the back with the black jacket. soon i think you mr. speaker.
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i represent the borough. the nhs sees over 1 million patients and 3 million patients in england alone and approximately 6 million patients in england. cutting funding for nhs affects every single one of us. not only does the nhs provides a considerable amount of employment that is such a critical servers that x. is so important. cuts can be considered simply because it would fall apart without it. [applause] >> how about a contributor from the east midlands? yes, the young man they are. >> think you mr. speaker. i myself love the nhs and i would like give my respect to
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the workers of nhs even in dire economic times. the regular parliament this is ms. chamber filled this is an issue that should not be addressed by young people when their batteries is a prominent time. i call upon you the government has trouble doing with nhs as well as the eu economy. i feel the youth parliament cannot do anything more effective than is currently being achieved one thing we can do however is tackle discrimination. in my opinion the more important campaign of fighting for discrimination at the highest authority meets every fiber of our being and time. [applause] >> thank you. >> now someone from the northwest. we will try to cover as many as
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we can. the young woman with the red dress. >> thank you mr. speaker. my name is victoria. now the topic it's not surprising has come in under the top five. as you can tell a lot of the same people feel like we need to do something about it. the nhs is very important but do we have the power and do we have influenced to be able to make a decision that the parliament stopped this court? as we have said before it's not the parliament is the best the cuts. if the parliament has to decide and i think as a young elected representative that we have much more important issues to deal with like stopping cuts to youth services. in my opinion and in the opinion
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of many people here we don't have the power to stop the cuts. thank you. [applause] >> who do we have from yorkshire and hamper side. the gentlemen nearest to me with the longish hair. excellent, thank you. >> thank you mr. speaker. i would like to highlight the fact that the members of united kingdom youth parliament, we are a future organization. i must say the access -- austerity is some terrible behemoth that must be slave. how do we hope to approach the tremendous issue in an unbiased fashion -- thank you.
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[applause] >> what about the delegation from london? who is interested from london pacs yes, the young woman here. soon i think you mr. speaker. i represent the london borough of hamlet and the reason i feel cuts affect the nhs is really important is not just because they are cuts affecting people's physical health but under the services we have mental health provision which are art and are funded than they are already suffering. that means young people are getting the services that they need in order to treat the mental health issues or even to seek help for these issues. and so in the uk when cuts against the nhs are made the nhs is therefore unable to add funding to mental health services which is already underfunded.
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by cutting it even more clear there for having another affect some of the young people who suffer with mental health issues there are no provisions available or there aren't enough which is why i feel strongly that we should vote on this motion. thank you. [applause] >> west midlands. the gentleman from west midlands. >> thank you. my biggest concern with this is if you add up the shortfall of funding for the nhs for this year is probably around 6 billion if we can do it now for certain we won't be able to do it in the coming years. the second problem is psychological pressure for future medics as well is beyond
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one's worth thinking about it. the huge pressure for the nhs is affecting their attitudes and finally the youth services are slightly, are affected disproportionately for example 11% less school nurses i believe this year. [applause] >> thank you. now are there people from the northwest who stood? the tennessee two demonstrative or tends to increase by the year and i say this in no insulting or critical spirit. i was much struck by the gendelman with the green jacket in the pink dress who was in a state of almost uncontrollable excitement. we look forward to hearing from you, please. >> my name is jennifer and i'm from scottsboro. the nhs is an extremely important service. it has a drastic impact on my
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life and it has drastic impacts on my dad's life who had a brain hemorrhage. this one-year campaign could -- our campaigns only lasts one year. we are doing our nhs a disservice by campaigning for only one year. we can't really do anything. it's a lifelong campaign that we should all be looking for entire lives. by making it our campaign we are just wasting money because we can do something in one year. there are much more important issues here that we can do in one year. it's a disservice to her nhs to spend our time and our efforts.
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[applause] >> thank you. thank you very much indeed. now can i enter scotland again? >> molly kirby northey scotland. our generation epidemic that was the response the parliament got from young people of our nation when we asked them what do you think of mental health? i believe we are facing a fundamental crisis in our mental health services. i really strongly believe that we can help young people. imagine what we could do with a campaign does top mental health
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cuts. there is no need to cut funding from the nhs. if we can take people -- and paris then certainly we can have funding to secure our nhs. [applause] >> thank you very much indeed. there are two parts of the uk so far which i have been unable to elicit speakers. southwest, can i ask anyone from the southwest. there is a young woman brandishing a document by the way of people that say their name that would be great.
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>> i'm carroll lewis. the nhs deals with everyday emergencies. the junior doctors who came to my previous school teaching cpr, very valuable skill. [applause] all over the country in our constituencies they want students to be committed but you cannot just fight for -- could i ask can we help? i would like to thank members of the chamber for taking a very strong interest in mental health and physical health and everything else in nature is covers including my area constantine were looking into young people's mental health. we need to fight for the unheard and the poor and fight for us to ever take up day by day needing help and not getting it because
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of the cuts preparation and encourage our generation into the medical field a very valuable field and hold regular chamber the account selection but we cannot do that by her cells. thank you mr. speaker. >> thank you. [applause] thank you very much. when you mentioned it i thought of rebecca powell who is an active member this parliament. if you are elected in the parliament she is in this chamber and you are taking an active and conscious interest in the pattern going to make one last effort to attract a speaker from northern ireland. northern ireland? perhaps the young woman towards the back, thank you. >> thank you mr. speaker. i agree our nhs is a very important service and we should be able to access health care at the point delivery but the act
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attitude is not the only service our police service -- we cannot ignore the fact that austerity is up public services. a re-is very important to fund the nhs we must fund all of our public services that we expect them to work. how are we supposed to have the services of wood don't put any money into them? to my nyp's in england please think twice about not funding your other public services as well. thank u.. [applause] >> thank you. very much indeed. we have participants from all across the country and that is extremely welcomed. to conclude the debate. >> the east of england. >> yes we have had an east
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englanders start the debate. somebody from the back benches? a very fair point we haven't had a contributor from the front bench? that there is a backbench from east of england i would be delighted to hear him or her. thank you, that's a very fair at go. before we go one orderly echo again we will take this gentleman here. thank you. >> thank you mr. speaker. a member of the youth parliament the nhs is a fundamental part of the united kingdom. it is a very british organization. imagine losing -- imagine the bbc of losing great britons bank. the nhs is vital to the of the structure of the united kingdom. my grandmother served in the nhs
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and i was so proud she served in the nhs. members of the parliament who are currently studying a local university near future is at stake but also the jobs of people who currently reside in the nhs. it is under funded. remember it is our future. it is a critical part of british infrastructure and i have to say the nhs, is not that whether you are black or white, gray or straight rich or poor we ought to have free access to health care. so that all of our religious leaders have access, bus and transport servers drivers have access. so all of our politicians have access and each of us in the debate that are coming as members of service groups. nhs provides it.
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ladies and gentlemen we have been giving each other rounds of applause but i don't deserve applause. all i've done is said some words strung together sentences. if you want to give anyone applause give your nurses, give your doctors and your junior doctors applause. [applause] >> thank you. [applause] thank you very much indeed for that speech. i'm so glad that we had an additional speaker, that bench speaker from the east of england now to conclude the debate i call and ask you very enthusiastically to welcome from the east midlands florence orchard. [applause]
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>> thank you mr. speaker. i don't know about you but when i first heard about this cuts to the nhs i wasn't sure about the issue. after all it is an efficiency -- 22 billion we does that number come from? over 1000 young people feel passionate enough hope to make it a national campaign so we simply cannot ignore it. the nhs is one of britain's greatest achievements and we have some of the most amazing health care professionals in the world. from here in the debate is clear that we all care about and want to make it the best service they can possibly be. however many believe it's already underfunded and the savings will like we overstretch the nhs. if this happens it will directly impact you all. from longer waiting times to the
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potential likelihood of maintaining its services while making the savings needed is very low. this is a brand-new and exciting campaign that we as a youth parliament can come together to work on to fight any changes to our nhs and to guarantee a positive environment for this campaign there's the opportunity to tackle mental health while still focusing on a new issue. however nobody can dispute the nhs is an extremely complicated structure and perhaps is too much to try to combat it in one year. local authorities are becoming more dependent and one case defunding the nhs entirely. the court should question whether there should be a local campaign is that the national blend. with do you for marketplace should we be working with these organizations are leaving them them -- due to the complexity of the health services possibly would be wiser to campaign on
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different issue. furthermore i believe this campaign is necessary as the government has committed 20% of its budget on the nhs and yes this 22% will maintain the current state of the nhs for the moment but taking and creasing puppyish and size into account this short-term solution if we were together with local health services and show passionate issue in social media can we have the potential to create a stable and h.s. not just for the short term but for the long-term and my piece today it falls to you. is his campaign to complex or is it a way to make an amazing change? thank you. [applause]
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>> we will now proceed to the second motion members of the youth parliament of the day, namely votes for 16 and 17-year-olds in all public elections. the motion is printed on the order paper to move the motion and i ask you warmly to welcome from scotland jack northway. [applause] >> thank you mr. speaker. hello my name is jack and i'm 17 i can vote in scotland and i cannot begin to emphasize the honor to cast my ballot. here's why i believe every
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single 16 and 17 wrote in that country should also be allowed to vote. lowering the voting age comes down to two things, maturity and marginalization. we know what 16 and 17-year-olds can contribute. voting is a civil rights issue however we can offer much more to our society. most of us are making major decisions about our future and many of us already do offer much more. today we are granted in an test and affairs but we as a youth parliament can help transform into direct political engagement. early entrance into politics will help create lasting improvement and help create a
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more representative democracy we so desperately need. in the heart of this democracy we are also the voices that should be represented in this democracy. the 2014 scottish referendum, if you give us responsibility we will cast it on voting day. polling stations were three and four and length. the scottish parliament unanimously lowered the voting age. we find ourselves in a situation you can vote for a concern but if you live just 30 miles down the road in carlisle, you can't.
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following the referendum plea to face difficulties ahead and further marginalization but great opportunities also here. extending the franchise is no longer just about voting but it's about young people's marginalization and making sure that government honors the legitimacy and oversight of all its citizens. we are here to debate and decide between five great topics but bear this in mind. gaining the right to vote at 16 but give us all the power to seek change to our education service, the power to seek change to our transport system, the power to seek change to our health service and the power to tackle racism and religious discrimination. voting should not be determined
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by what accident you have. now is the time youth parliament it is time for this united kingdom to begin i did in the right to vote at 16. thank you. [applause] >> jack thank you for that very powerful speech. thank you members of the parliament for your warm enthusiastic with welcome and especially thank you to the scottish delegation fan club of jack for their explicit and demonstrative show of support which is entirely in order. just before ask you to welcome our next speaker it is my practice to try to identify members of the house of parliament. i would also like to mention a
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very senior member of our staff who is taking an interest in his supports u.n. and that is the assistant in the house come the second procedural official in the house of commons dr. john ventura. john just put your hand up so everyone can see you. thank you. [applause] in the youth parliament i worked with john every day of the working week to try to make this place function better and i can tell you that john is a terrific ally to me and trying to promote diversity and inclusion within the house service code, that is to say in the makeup of this place and it's absolutely appropriate that he be here and thank you to all of our class to provide a terrific service. i would ask you to welcome our next speaker to oppose the
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motion, matthew van rooyen. [applause] >> thank you very much mr. speaker. sighs of pleasure and i'm delighted to be here for another year. thank you to two-year effort to ensure that youth parliament is here every year, year after year. thank you mr. speaker. [applause] i ask your indulgence for a moment because i would like to pay tribute to a member of parliament. not on my employer but someone who challenges and people. he spoke on several debates affecting young people and young people's mental health. i would like to thank him from his been doing. [applause]
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the house of commons, the that half of our democracy developed over many centuries. this is the heart of our democracy is. that's why we are here today, to democracy. we do however have a government that has a majority in this place that is not only not in favor but actively opposed to the single voting age from 18. with the independence referendum and the result of the referendum for the majority of british people which leave the european union and developments in the united states of america the governments are going to be far too busy working on policies other than what is absolutely necessary. what we are seeing from this government yet again is the government putting young people to the back of the queue. the government excluding young
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people from the democratic process, young people being excluded from taking part in democracy but what we are seeing is the government stifling democracy. it's a very fact over the next several years. so i ask you this, is now really the right time put our energy in a can pain -- campaign -- for this campaign to be a success we have 355 days, 52 weeks, 12 months, a year. alongside our peers we have been campaigning to reduce the voting age for well over a decade. and for her efforts with red to show? to achieve success when the time , resources and the support of the government.
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i will ask him if he does consider young people and thus consider bringing young people into our democracy. however the action plans do nothing to change the governments policy because for the submission of a local -- a motion calls for the local press, the local press? really? it calls for mps debate not on the floor as her speaker. what these campaigns are going to do nothing i suggest to change government policy on reducing the voting age. i suggest today that our votes be used on a topic that has a realistic prospect of success to achieve what her constituents
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truly want. i suggest you all today you do not vote for the vote at 16. without government support substantial changes to education policies such as a curriculum for life reducing the voting age would be deeply unbiased and almost impossible. friends we have banned -- by her constituents. to campaign for curricula for life and making it the top of the ballot. today friends we are here to do democracy and if we truly are going to do democracy and make the most of this opportunity we would do in way that i can ditch onto voted for curriculum for life and voting for when racial discrimination. thank u. very much. [applause] >> thank you. thank you very much indeed for that speech.
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we have had a great start to the debate. who do we have from yorkshire in amber side wishing to contribute to this debate? are about the woman there, holding an exercise book still standing. yes indeed it is you, thank you. >> i am 13 and to me it seems appropriate to allow voting and i know you represent everyone 18 to 11. if people are not affected by this campaign to they feel excluded and maybe not affected in our community? i think it's really important. i think it's quite important. so thank you. [applause]
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>> thank you very much indeed. congratulations on your first speech in the house of commons. now do we have a would-be contributor from northern ireland? what about the young gentleman here with the red hair wax yes. >> thank you mr. speaker. i am representing london and in northern ireland we are in a unique position to actually have a land border with the eu and the length of the referendum it has become quicker that there's a clear and democratic -- with regards to actions in general in the uk pay the vast majority of northern ireland it becomes quite clear to me that we clearly are -- and you can general. i believe fundamentally we are
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being dragged against our will. a lot of our economy relies on cross-border trade. our economy is going to be balance beyond repair -- damaged beyond repair. i believe this election has been changed and at the start of the debate in america and scotland scotland -- so why can't the rest of us? thank you. [applause] >> now the east of england who do we have wanting to contribute from east of england? what about the woman here? >> thank you mr. speaker.
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i am fighting for the right for 16 and 17 of the vote. you are allowed to leave home and get a job job and if it's a 16 but not both can you live in the world that you can't vote then you don't have a say in how it's run? cutting the voting age would be a vital step in the renewal of britain's democracy. i understand some people think this is a hard campaign to achieve however doesn't the uk love a good challenge? [applause] >> now, what about london? who do we have from london? what about the young man man here with a red tie from london. >> thank you mr. speaker. i represent the london row. the issue for voting at 16 has affected you for a very long time. it's time to take the issue up
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>> >> most of us here are between ages of teeeleven and 18. sixteen tercentenary 18 that we should be able to vote right now we should be able to stand appeared to appear to stand together yes our future depends on that because we are the future we are fantastic and powerful and amazing we are from the
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united kingdom we are the best fit if we vote together and stand together we can vote at the age of 1617 think you scotland thank you so much left laugh for your referendum at the moment to help them. [laughter] so let's help ourselves because we are mitscher to show that we are adjourned responsible pdf pdf so that we could deal to vote to been to say i have a voice in.
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one with the flour address? >> for a 16 year-old. >>:one woman to. if every speaker can remember to say before anything else, your name would be great. >> that turner. t16 year-old can leave school to get the apprenticeships is 16 year-old can be liable to pay taxes and can fight for their country and get married. so why are a not given the responsibility? how can we be told to contribute money to a country but not have a say
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in allegis spent? for those that do not have assay plexus' such an important issue together we can change again 16 and 17 year-old son chance to vote. then our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter . ladies and gentlemen we cannot be silent we need to stand up to fight for our rights for over voice is to be heard. [applause] >> just before speaking on the southwest i would like to take this opportunity to welcome sitting in the gallery, steven.
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[applause] financial importune reasons. first, because he does fantastic work to bring together the silent communities and parliament and we have been working together on that causes over many years. secondly, steven his brother to hillary that is a respected member of the house and a former cabinet minister and chair of the breck said select committee and also the son blood everywhere politics a great parliamentarian tony blair. [applause] i have a century of his life
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spent in politics to be passionate nnd half of parliament is great to have you joining us today. [applause] so from the southwest to wants to contribute? play about the woman in the mustard coat quick. >> nation fighting for our voices with this issue is important. i m-16 in the next two years that i could vote appropriately. it might be a hard way for this issue but what about the young people not having a voice? [applause]
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what about northwest? this young gentlemen with the blue tie. [cheers and applause] >> my name is jim. coming from china to the u.k. my life has been changed greatly demo where however the a person do not agree with lowering the voting age to the age of 16. they need to vote to make an impact there are other ways to participate in politics.
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we can nevertheless we can never real impact on government and make positive changes. on the other hand, i am embarrassed to say that ages between 18 and 24 havilah list turnout at the election even then the e.u. referenced. for would-be irrational a bus to lower the voting age clearly there is a democratic deficit. more should be done to engage the people into politics for have a campaign to reach our political
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negative. after all a line has to be drawn somewhere in all the evidence for lowering the voting age has yet to come. [applause] >> if you are interested asian mention the family as some people know i was hugely fond of them had eight great relationship with then was given to impersonate him but he said this magnificent me coming he was always a believer in young people come on the purpose of the oldest team encouraged the young. i thought that was a wonderful statement as an approach to life.
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now flu do we have next? this chap is literally leaping off the ground. >> i would like 2.0 all -- or like 2.0 -- [laughter] but i sat at home and drink a lot of cup of tea i could not vote. i did not have a choice. and then i went to work. how is that fair? how can you compare people with the two year age gap? they can vote but i don't?
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that could change the old face of the election 1.5 million of them. the vote is worth a lot. [applause] >> northeastern england? >> speaker, for anybody who thinks this motion cannot work or cannot be done in a year i have come to say that if my mom can work day and night to jobs even on the weekends we can do lots in one year to get voting ages at 16. [applause]
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>> is there eighth female contributor rougher of wales? >> mr. speaker i came to campaign to vote at 16. however i have mixed feelings in 2016 is this the right time? did our government block the amendment for the referendum that 16 and 17 year-old allowed to vote? could we achieve any real change? to be on the agenda before the election year to make an impact when i spoke about this they lost it with me. they said why should be let the fact of not voting stock
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buses behalf to keep pushing it and they are right. we cannot give up on the issue or go to the back of the agenda. we have to keep pushing so eventually everybody can have a chance to vote under six -- at 16 and keep pushing until they get that legislation. [applause] >> recently young people have taken an interest to voting. this is due to the fact that as the young people so why do we not have a choice to
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voice our opinions? why is it the older generations get to vote on issues that will not affect them for much longer? [laughter] and to have the right to free speech but do we? [applause] >> all good things come to an end we are behind time so we must conclude the debate. we have not heard from scotland then let's hear from scotland. then we will end their. >> as an organization this is something that we should be fighting for.
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today the chamber was enthusiastic and we're so often n stereotyped as a disengaged generation. if you support this and we should come together it is a contradiction but to pay full price of public transport but yet the benefits of voting i have been very disheartened today. what kind of message is it, can assure every speech and vote don't make a difference. we can make change. please support voting for 16 and 17 year-old son.
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[cheers and applause] >> i will emphasize in each debate every part of the country has been heard the only difference is there has not then a front bench speech we wanted negative a backbench contributor arrear happy to respect that but now we know for certain that every area of the country is represented. not the naked call on everybody but we are doing our best to make sure it is completely fair and equal. so now to conclude the debate given an enthusiastic welcome to the speaker zero rightly. [applause] -- o'reilly.
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>> this is the age we live in. a time of turmoil. what i must say to you as then this time of turmoil of politics and government to have time to deal with this issue. not candidate but will they? what can happen in one short year if there is enough time and is 16 right age? to have that total and utter politics is taught in schools to go up again and again to make their mark
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laugh laugh i ask you this are we to campaign for the education for what we want? >> i have seen campaigns come and go but though one trick pony of the one shop but it is not one trick pony for the freedom to achieve freedom the freedom to have based transport system and with the power to do so if we cannot get that power them what are we? [cheers and applause]
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sixteen and 17 year-old eyelids five 1/2 miles from the irish republic do think my constituents would be happy when they are denied a government plan exile love them but that is my community. baskets is on the of line and has no place with me right constituents if we don't stand up to them then just imagine if the government decided to abolish the transport past. >> today abolished anything over the age of 65 or 21 the
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>> they key afar winding up that debate with sincerity and the quality of which were looking like more than any other in is passion. that speech had passion in abundance. that is a wonderful thing for the rest of us. . >> what are you doing to make sure they communicate with you especially regarding issues like the people of flint quick. >> i stood up in front of the entire state of michigan and said these people that made these terrible decisions that showed a
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clear lack of common sense failed us. they work for me i responsible for their actions. i take responsibility and they kick myself every single day what i could have done to do more. but i told the people of michigan there is a commitment, a passionate commitment to say we will change the culture in these places, i apologize. they deserve that. i understand why they are in free. it is terrible with they have to go through but i made a commitment to fix the problem the cannot take the damage that has been done but there is a lot we can do to help the people of flint address their issues and i am committed to do that we are following through to get that done. and i will roll up my sleeves and keep working at that issue. >> it isn't about getting customers what data need then you don't have to squeeze your employees to make it happen.
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cross selling is all about pumping up the stock price. >> no. >> it is shorthand to deepening relationships. >> i will stop you right there. did you say no? in and the transcript of 12 quarterly earnings calls that you participated in 2012 through 20143 full years in which we know the scam was going on. for the record if i may these are calls were you personally made your pitch to investors and analysts about why well as cargo is a great investment and in all 12 of these calls you personally cited wells fargo success at cross selling retail accounts as one of the main reasons to buy more
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stock in the company spirit that vicious part of two new hearings held earlier this year we will review more of these topics plus other topics tonight. >> now we've returned to london with the u.k. parliament debate to create more affordable and accessible public transportation for young people this is 30 minutes. >> we now move to the third motion of the day by the youth parliament and of course, the last of the morning session to make
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public transport cheaper, better and accessible for all. information is printed please will come from the northeastern england lee m. carr right. [cheers and applause] >> bank give mr. speaker. across the uk we have the luxury of a diverse network but this is superb on the surface only when we look at the issues raised by constituents that it starts to open in. in 2012 with the issue of public transport we can see note change and there is still no change. the issues are exactly the same. people are calling for a
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cheaper, better transport the third change we wish to be implemented what does this look like? it is an adult at the age of 18 so i asked a question so the ages of 14 or 50 years 16 do we pay? sodium as believe we are adults so that it could be customized for services through education and a young person of the age 18 wall those in london are completely free. why is this there is a reason why just because of
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location and it must be changed to a system that affects everyone. clean and frequent systems in areas that are in excess of one hour bus companies do need to produce more in regards to our needs. this is time and time again the debate over and over again. the time has come from our constituents for transport needs to be rectified and to listen to our concerns and understand this no longer can be shoved under the carpet and into a transport system for young people.
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with the first generation be the real age of transport. thank you. [cheers and applause] >> thanks for kicking off this debate of the of morning now to close, it now from northeastern england we have caitlin. [cheers and applause] >> thank you mr. speaker. there are levels of inequality between the 15 year-old adult's and 18 year-old children per killed between those who can miss the bus and still be on time and those have to wait so long in this half day so how can anyone stand here to say
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no we should not wait for better transport? the young people want better transport it allows me to travel across six local authorities to times today. that transport is achievable but it takes over five years. and then, does the government find cheaper transport? some people argue it should be from the 1.1 billion if we had over one year they
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could find the money to support this for just one quarter. i know that i am lucky to have affordable transport transport, but with your local authority in the transport issues if you need to. some people may argue against this because they believe they cannot achieve that but that is not the case. however success cannot be rushed. problems with the campaign itself because what is better transport nationally? that is an affordable prices . maybe we year on the wrong side. [laughter] and wooded be better for our planet?
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in many urban areas if it is already good why risk a better transport and making campaign for the 16 and 17 year-old for the general elections instead? to be truly united in organization we must have issues that affect all local authorities that is the post code. so i will say no. transport is something as the youth parliament should not achieve in that something you should tackle in your local areas. [applause] >> now food we have from the southwest? >> i am from the southwest.
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in order to leave college every day i have to buy a bus pass every day it is the most expensive bus pass in the country. this financial pressure on families to educational institution is absolutely disgusting and that is 300 pounds per year. how was it we are categorized as adults and made to pay the ridiculous fares but in every other aspect of our lives we are treated as children? we need than national student fees instituted to provide equality in the public households. [applause]
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>> it is now timely for me to welcome who just entered the chamber office and all one has been in this place since the of did '70s soul with the very long track record to the house of commons and a longtime believer for rights and opportunities of the young people. peter thank you. [applause] do we have so would be contributor from wales? >> mr. speaker i believe don't think that transport needs to be cheaper or more accessible in wales disabled people cannot even use the bus and that is ridiculous. most passage drivers.
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>> guest: the & to get in the taxi? pursue middle think one thing to get into a taxi with them. finally force 16 year-old are forced to pay to go to work yet we work for the children's wage. because they are forced to have education we are forced to pay is that not wrong? it is our job to distinguish between what young people want and need a cheaper transport is what young people need. thank you mr. speaker. [applause] >> anybody from scotland? >> most of you knows
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stagecoach the headquarters is in my home town at the heart of scotland. assistant to travel around the city and the company that spends hundreds of millions for year but does not want to subsidize. i feel that of all young people had the opportunity the colleagues in the northwest would not have to pay 600 pounds per year for them to travel around the stock show people from having the opportunity to expand their viewpoints but if people cannot use transport.
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[applause] >> melissa from london? >> i represent the london borough. today's ago a rail took the lives of seven innocent people it was identified with of a young teenager one year older than me. that struck a chord with me that is what i regulate taken at my friends and family regularly use. there should be safety protection systems to apply the brakes automatically if they go too fast. thank you. [applause] >> your share york shier? somebody from the of back?
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with a red tide. >> i would like to congratulate my friends in the people love liverpool. [applause] completely different from the friends in scotland those who have to pay to go to college but can really do anything nationally? that is a significant difference. every eight local area is different nationally is this justice not viable and and
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not from the motion. [applause] is there a would-be contributor? >> 100 percent i am with this motion with the aspect to help young people i believe it helps us all more people using that better infrastructure from their private vehicles that benefits that is why everybody should support this. can we do this in a year?
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[applause] >> what about eastern england? >> mr. speaker today i talk not just on behalf of the young people but our planet and home environment. we don't need to stand here to lecture you on air pollution and global warming . you know, that already but i do want to bring your attention that curbing emissions 21% of that is taken by transport. did you know that wonderful buses could take 50 cars off the road and did you know one train could take 600? the area that i represented is very rural and isolated. the public transport there is a regular and expensive. how can ex
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