[applause] [inaudible conversations] >> every weekend booktv brings you 48 hours of nonfiction books and authors and here's what's coming up this weekend. tonight at 8:30 p.m. eastern, peter hayes academic committee chair at the us holocaust memorial museum and author of why explaining the holocaust.

>> so why were the jews killed? because a long-standing tradition of hatred activated under particular political circumstances. fermented by a regime that was thoroughly capable of whipping up the population to participate in it. then, they took a war into a region where there were hundreds of thousands of people defined his enemies. and it resolved under the conditions of wartime. to wipe these people out. >> at 10:00 p.m. eastern on afterwords, professor amorous was to cut looks at frugal living. why less is more, more or less. it is interviewed by a "washington post" columnist. >> is not to never spend money on any luxury at all. the crucial thing is to be self-aware about what it is you really value. what is really worth spending

money on? and what is something we are just wasting money or you're just spending it just because people tell you this is what you ought to be doing and what you ought to be fine. >> sunday at 7:30 p.m. eastern georgetown university professor michael dyson author of fears we cannot stop. a sermon to white americans looks at the countries racial divide. >> what we want is a cessation of the velocity of stereotype and a granting to us of the same humanity that you grant each other. >> go to booktv.org for a complete weekend schedule. >> you know the question, what animates her is so important. eleanor roosevelt really identified with people and wants, indeed, in trouble. and that really is all about her alcoholic family. her father died at the age of

34. how much do you have to drink? i mean we've been drinking too much for a long time and we are almost 80. >> some of us. [laughter] >> yes. i mean how much you have to drink to die at 34?and what was that like? so her mother died when she was eight. essentially turning her face to the wall, her father died when she was 10. and eleanor roosevelt then had fortune to go to school in england and meet the mentors that those of us like at hunter had mentors who made us what we are. she had ãthere is still no biography on these events. every semester i tell my students ? [inaudible]

>> she was a great educator and she inspired eleanor roosevelt. her message was, what do you think? what is your opinion? she did not want anybody to repeat anything she said. and if you wrote a paper that repeated what she said, she would tear it up. and that was eleanor roosevelt, her lifelong journey. everywhere she went. tell me, what do you want? what do you need? and the goal was to make it better. to make it better. for all people, especially people in want and in need and in trouble. and so the new deal, i may think of it ãthe new deal confronted the depression. the goal was for employment. and the goal of affordable housing.for everybody.

full employment and affordable housing. and education. excellence, quality education. for everybody. and eleanor roosevelt began in 1943 to talk about free tuition. why don't we have free college tuition? for boys and girls at a time women, i mean, as the first woman in history department at johns hopkins ãyou know, it was segregated by race and by gender. until ãbut eleanor roosevelt was fighting it. and she was fighting that beginning in the 1930s. and i have an incredible speech that she makes in 1934. may 1934.

in which the educators of america passed a resolution. segregation has to go. it hurts children of color and it hurts white children who are persuaded that they are somehow better. when in fact, they are not. and the language of that resolution of 1934 is pretty much the language of brown versus the board of education. eleanor roosevelt strolled across the stage and gave the speech. that she was not accepted to give. supporting this great event at the educators of america have opposed aggregation and she says, this is it. this is what we must do. we must recognize that we all put our heads together or we all go down together. and that is her team until the

end of her life. >> what interesting in your books is that you quote her in letters to friends and family. almost undermining, i mean her own political skills. she constantly under plays them as if she does not know politics and yet, she really does in the evidence of your books and what i think is important is that while claiming that she is not an expert politician she is really working both for and, and with franklin but also as a larger way around him. i was surrounded by the variations in the things that she would show him. the speeches or the writings. other times she wouldn't. and, so if you could talk about how she did that, because that

is kind of a political calculation. what she shared and what she did not. that really worked amazing things him in the country even if it was only rhetorical. i may not always ? >> i think a great gift was a recognition that we needed to build movements. okay? she understood that from the 1920s and on. we need to do is build movements. and make the politicians say, the support for these issues. because there were cracks. there are the bigots, the democratic party is dominated by the southern democratic party. and, and been eleanor roosevelt speaks against and actually uses the word greed. and encouraged democracy.

but you have two go door to door. block by block. and she called it trooping for democracy and build movements. then you can have changed. and that was her contribution. and she said don't go anywhere without your gang. because i was born in the bronx. but she never went anywhere without the women of the democratic party who were her allies. fdr was much better at juggling because he had to negotiate. but she didn't. she wanted to organize movements and she did. >> you can work as in other programs online at booktv.org. >> good