frugality is the key to hap happine happiness. >> the basic message of all this is that if you buy it you will be happy. you will be sexier, more attractive, better vacations, more likely to make kids or whatever. the question you to ask is any of that true? is it true that con sumconsume m surm -- consumerism makes happiness? the research on this shows it is not true. there is a consensus among social scientists that is this: get out of poverty certainly increases your level of happiness. achieving comfort and security is desirable and your happiness will increase. but beyond a concern point it really doesn't make much

different. >> afterwords airs on booktv every saturday and sunday. you can watch all programs on our website booktv.org. >> a ton of things happening that are affecting our politics. you know? the way that things get changed in this country, there are many, many ways. my favorite example is since we are in new york everyone is probably familiar with governor andrew como and how hard he fought against raising the minimum wage until the moment when he decide he wanted to take credit for it. >> it wasn't his idea? >> no, it wasn't his idea. you had a movement there that started in new york, that started the first fight for $15 protest i went to was right down the street from here. and he was under investigation

and was looking for friends. but these things work and we now have an increase in the minimum wage that will eventually get to $15 an hour for the city and most of the state. >> something that was unthinkable even two years ago. >> right. right. and yesterday was the fifth anniversary of occupy wall street and people are like where did they go and i am like they are all over the place. i just saw four or five of them at the standing rock protest and that pushed the administration to put a temporarily halt and the protesters are still going and looking down to equipment because the temporarily halt is fought a win completely. >> you can watch this and other

programs online at booktv.org. c-span where history unfolds daily. in 1979, c-span was created by america's cable companies and brought to you by your cable or satellite provider. afterwards is next on booktv, this week, emerys westacott explores the history of frugali frugality in his book and interviewed by michelle singleta singletary. >> i am so thrilled to be talking to you about your wonderful book, totally enjoyed it. i would like to start by asking you the simple question what is frugality? >> well as i say in the book,