because it is the pitfall of corruption cement now we will introduce you to chris chris, of bresser what are you doing at the university of arizona? spin oppressor of astronomy i have been here 30 years what does that entail i do people little piece as the industry right teach on-line glasses they have had over

100,000 of those but i do try to recharge reid j. and i do budgets literacy for science students and every student that we teach. >> when did you get interested in astronomy? >> either those little kids that had a telescope but i grew up in big cities so i got in through physics that is the gateway drug for astronomy then you realize i can apply that to the universal you look at our words. >> what is the of connection >> we are a big astronomy department moderate to making the world's biggest telescope the span of a phobos' diem it is big business year astronomy and

optics is worth about one-quarter billion dollars per year. we'll have big telescopes and research is the place for astronomy. >> host: before we get into a bear rest talk about the football field and spinning your. >> is seen to it had rigid 11 around world were to end it was not exceeded over decades because the big mirrors are expensive and heavy and hard to keep accurate shapes of one of my colleagues from recently retired invented this way to make them years large and very accurate the way you do it, the trick is to put of

glass blocks turn liquid then is really really large headlight and not expensive. >> and the connection to the football field at the time that is where was big enough space to do that you need a lot of scores of calls space >> so you spend the under that space under the stand and it was available. >> why does it matter to seek? >> you think fiver 10 should be big enough we're trying at 22 meters because more

gathering more likely to see further wave try to look as close as possible to the big bang you need bigger class also a principal makes sharper images so juicy detail you want a bigger mir. >> host: where are the physical telescopes'? period the biggest oran five mountaintops around tucson but the biggest orange jelly -- in in she lay -- chile the darkest and highest placed to observe. >> as you would get your space tell the story of the profound human urge to explorer. >> lot of animals wales for

birds that migrate arch-rival the planet in search of food really creatures that have traveled a lot of curiosity and then migrated across the planets that are starting langley? all the way down to patagonia over a few hundred generations they did not have to. so i believe we spread across the planet out of the urging and the desire to explore and there has even then a gene identified which correlates with risk-taking behavior that might associate being with and explore when you have explored the earth. >> host: 1969 and landed

on the moon. >> is that a horseless carriage? >> and amazing achievement that is a dim cultural memory that is the most stunning technical achievement with an enormous amount of money at the time but yet that was so long ago >>. >> and with that exploration

and rex them the budget soared during apollo land retrenched quickly and we cannot afford to spend that much on nasa. and by the factor of two in the technologies are challenging. but there are all these new players. into have other investors and bin the aggregate. >> cordate cooperating? >> and with malice other was

some frustration so by the time it was retired civil there was a rivalry with the cooperation with a private space companies so orbital science and space sex have multi billion dollar contracts to put them up into orbit that money is important to them because they can put an american into space but hasn't over six shares of that is embarrassing also nasa tries to be more nimble to encourage like student

groups of putting micro satellites up and there is a lot of partnerships permit you have then part of the program greg. >> yes. we have been asked by nasa tries to during the launch itself. and then to grab part of an asteroid and bring it back. >> and beyond our future in space? >> if you want to get up and glitter in your eye the 500-meter that you could

alter the orbit with precious metals in the same amount of the semiconductor industry. so those resources that are out there and available and with that mother lode of the economic level that is not discouraging people 85 for 10 or 15 years would be a valuable times. >> is a retired - - time to retire the space shuttle? >> exactly it was posted glove once a week it never went of more than once a

week and it was devastating when the two explosions. >> but what about the international space station? >> not for the peer scientific reason but companies have not flocked to do microgravity research it isn't a magnet to what people hoped that we can live edward in space with the superpower rivals of china cooperation and living in space and internal you do like that led it is important in that regard with $120 billion and counting.

>> george w. bush recalled for a trip to the moon. >> that eds inflows. it is very disappointing as a visionary to land on the nearest body have a century after we have the back but that is a good place to live and learn how to work in space that is a good place to be self-sufficient because you can use the lunar soil fattest is sterile you can turn the water into rocket fuel oxygen or plans everyone to live beyond the earth the moon is the best place to do a. and as a staging post for

the rest of the solar system. >> given your book where would you like to see us go? >> it would be more ambitious it plum negative a vicious and the moons of jupiter or saturn that well could be the next place where rica find a life beyond the earth with the daughter moon said the solar system that is a more expensive proposition to go out there multi-year. >> host: is there life in your view beyond earth? >> that includes a few hundred billion stars in our galaxy i cannot say for sure but i am almost certain that

it has shown us tens of billions of planets have habitable situations and then nothing happens with biology. >> what is the pipe dream that you have with space exploration? i will not be an astronaut is why would like to experience that but my pipe dream for the whole activity and then how to get to the solar system through the store -- to the stars so we need cryonics technology and

to me that propulsion technology. >> so nasa has the resuscitated in with uh national boston aerostar system and hosting conferences on interstellar drives their propulsion systems. >> and how those other reasons and then the ball is moving for word. >>. >> a hundred thousand is a lot but it is not a outrages citizen when his 70

different countries may be on the cutting edge of astronomy so is it of going through a textbook i give them the good stuff for talk about how we use the telescopes are make the glass and i tried to give them the research topics so it is painless and we have a good on-line discussion of this entity jomon in. >> it is in the academic title? >> and if those articles of my career in to explain that to was a general audience than those are exotic and abstract concepts.

and then the light that challenge. and now more than ever to be extra unmotivated. >> host: talking to chris impey is book "beyond" our future in space" professor of astronomy at the university of arizona

. >> 40 years in n.y.p.d. ax of courage to bravery and integrity and it keeps you up at night everyone knew who they did not trust so what i did with the internal affairs we would meet with

them and reagan the basis and i would ask questions like who in your command are you concerned about? who keeps you up tonight? maybe we will do the integrity test commanders are worried. but we always told them you will, this working well. not being criticized. so if you are willing to listen who they don't want to work with.

>> so of the people on the left the progressive democrats marching lockstep with billy bush yen donald trump talking with their man boasts. that trump infamously said that if you are a star in hollywood they let you grab -- their genitals. and then that was completely translated into that's what i do instead of that's what i would like to do blame to symbolize to do that perhaps i don't know trump personally but this is a

private conversation one republican after another was horrified i cannot support this candidate and jeb bush is embarrassingly said there is nothing that donald trump could ever say to never apologize for but not hillary clinton with her position the secretary of state she lied to the fbi fbi, she lied to the american people coming of the highest level secrets of her private server and

violated her oath of office in the espionage act and opened the secrets to the enemies of china and eritrea -- and korea. she lied about bin gauzy and the fallen hero but not one democrat elected official said this is a bridge too far i cannot support this candidate. not one. i bring this up to discuss the communist party the way it was effective with political warfare everybody in lockstep.

that is the way the left the hanes today. so you just don't see the light air and the crop. the former first lady in senator and secretary state but of the protected species. with character assassinating. with a dedicated public servant with a letter by

coretta scott king while leading the senate rules witnesses you cannot serve that. cannot touch another woman that is a double steal dirt. but of that cripples the navy opposing the nonsense. but to look at that as ridiculous. and trump is a liberating force so i have waited 30 years for somebody on the right to appear like donald trump. so coming have of the left to understand so that is the

way they see it or fight it. in it is character assassination is the party of eight and there is no limit and so it is godzilla vs. pena be celebrated. in donald trump has the highest percentage. but he has never been in a political debate like that against let alone 12 of the.

the most qualified inexperienced and the other first question out of the box in the very first question meighen kelly says he referred to women as a fat slob and pig. he doesn't hesitate. he just says that was rosie o'donnell. [laughter] he is an instinctive fighter . [laughter]

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