>> tonight and c-span2 booktv and primetime features both about your neck, camille paglia , author of free women, free men , sex, gender, feminism. then ashley mcguire talks about her book, sex scandal. the drive to abolish male and female. and later, rebecca -- on her book, the mother of all questions. >> tonight we are delighted to have camille paglia here. camille paglia is the university professor of humanities and media studies at the university of the arts in philadelphia.

she has taught since 1984. she received her ba from the university of new york in 1968. and her masters in philosophy and phd degrees from the university of -- yale university. -- sex art and american culture. vamps and tramps, essays which came out in 1994. the study of alfred hitchcock in 1998 by the british film institute. camille paglia reads 40 through the world's best poems and images of the book she was here last with five years ago and journey through art from egypt to star wars. she is here this evening with her seventh book. free women, free men. sex, gender, feminism. his selection of her most notable articles and lectures on the subject. her third general essay question will be about a year from this fall.

-- she was cofounding contributor and -- for salon day, beginning in 1985. she's written numerous articles on art, literature, feminism, religion, education and politics for publications around the world. it is a pleasure to thank you all for being here tonight and now please join in welcoming back to seattle, camille paglia . [applause] >> hello. i do not know which microphone she's birthday. what a pleasure to be back in this beautiful city. the first time he came for book tour here think was 1992. it is always a thrill to come back to seattle. this is my seventh book. i had hoped it would be my third essay collection.

it has been since 1994 since my second one was published. i ran 70 things all over the world. i think many important pieces on religion and history, culture and so on. but my publisher felt that my pieces of sex, gender and feminism have been some prophetic in the last 25 and 30 years and it was urgent to get them out now. so we went forward with the book and is absolutely amazing how it is almost like a tsunami of events in the culture. swept forward and things ever in my introduction to this book last summer, it seemed to speak directly to this moment. my premier principles as a person and as a thinker are free thought and free speech. i'm truly a child of the 1960s in that respect.

i'm totally opposed to any curtailment of that. -- my particular influences came from my experience in the mid-1960s in college when i entered college in 1964, that spring the free speech movement at berkeley. -- in college my influences were heavily the poets who created a great scandal. in 1957 the obscenity, the arrest of the manager of city lights bookstore for selling obscene poems. and ginsberg yale a huge influence on me in college. the same thing. lenny bruce. he is the person who transforms

the medium of comedy, stand-up comedy from merely gags to very satiric but meaningful style of analysis of such a problem. lenny bruce is the one who made comedy politically and socially relevant. lenny bruce was an equal opportunity offender. and the first thinker really who had enormous impact on the in adolescence was oscar wilde. by chance in a secondhand bookstore in syracuse upstate new york, i stumbled on a copy of a book, it was a british book for the epigrams of oscar wilde. ashley is still available from the dover additions that are presumably that no one in the us would recognize the word epigrams peers another cloth he rigid humor of oscar wilde. but it is all of his or many of

his wonderful one-liners from his plays, his writings and dinnertable conversation in london. organized by topic. some nature, manage women etc. his scathing uncompromising quality of his thinking was a huge impact on me. then in college, it this was before the stone will rebel, before the movement, gay men once, they were absolutely scathing. going against every possible social convention. they would say things that would make you wince. about polio victims and so on. now what happened to that? after stonewall gay men have become increasingly recreational. or they had become very pc and politicized peers all of a sudden they are a part of the army for the control of speech. but you know gay men are still just as - as ever. but then i began to read the

influences on oscar wilde himself. one of which was imprisoned by the way he defined convention etc. it wasn't that long before i was in college that there was the great trial for obscenity in england. and penguin books was fort up. on charges of obscenity. and when penguin books triumph there was a great blow. against the forces of censorship. that is why have so far and my particular when the feminism was depressed for many years. my feminism predates second wave feminism which was created by betty for dan with her cofounding of now in 1966. i was already a feminist because i was directly impacted by first wave feminism in the early 1960s. in 1961 when i was 14 years old

i suddenly became obsessed with emily ehrhardt after an article about yet another clue was found. whatever it was. there was in the syracuse herald journal. and i embarked on three art project into familiar ehrhardt. which all kinds of places. i ransacked the old newspapers in the bowels of the syracuse library and so on. also i was obsessed with katharine hepburn them i began to see on late-night tv. when i was getting, when i was getting from hard and i realize for decades was actually the real flame of first wave feminism. her mother was the head of the connecticut women's suffrage organization. her answer was also a campaigner for foreign suffrage and hepburn herself campaigned as a small child with balloons and eye protests. handbook for women. etc. i was given the first impact you know of 1920s, 1930s after woman had just won the

right to vote in 1920. we want it, the actual page from newsweek magazine in 1963, the letters to the editor. i was given the letter to the evidence. when the soviets launched valentina into space she was the first woman to enter space of the town women were bandwidth in being in the space program. in a repurchase letter. i'm 16 years old. this is before now.and i says that this happened, she went into space of the great anniversary of america ehrhardt buying the atlantic. and i say it's obvious that ms. ehrhardt quest for equal opportunity for american women still remains to be one. sounds overly feminist. before this happened in the late 1960s. then i tried to join the women's movement. it did not succeed.because the women's movement at all kinds of preconceptions about

the suppression of speech. they were into rock 'n' roll. anti-art, put on the line. i was what would later call it pro-sex feminist. in the 1970s for example, i loved charlie's angels. i left cosmopolitan magazine. meanwhile the other feminists are like occupying offices wanted the magazine to be shut down. i love the james bond girls. and coming out of the water with a wet bikini. -- i loved the dallas cowboys cheerleaders. so there is no way i could be taken into the women's movement. i was drummed right out of it. and people say oh she was made by -- i was not made by betty for dan.

as a say in the book, betty did not create jermaine greer in australia and she's not create me in upstate new york. it is about time that people realize that transformations in women that happen very radically in the mid 20th century are not entirely due to the women's movement. i show in the introduction to the book a month many things preceded the creation of now. the main diana riggs and the avengers was in a black leather catsuit. before now. doing all of that stuff. and betty friedan didn't create her either. anyway so, i don't want to get sidetracked. i only have a certain amount of time here. let me see. what happened was madonna, she was so important. i mean the way she is behaving our session embarrassment.

because the current madonna, there is no resemblance to the pioneering madonna of the 1980s and 90s. she will live forever for she did. the pro-sex feminist movement of the 1990s was made possible by madonnas trifling with pornography and exposure of the body and so on. in her brilliant videos of the 80s and 90s. i believe there truly works of art. for great. 1982. i periodically do show some of the videos like vogue and open your heart and so on. these are truly works of art. at any rate, this is all the sudden, this long silence of feminism. the pro-sex wing. vs. four in the 1990s. it was feminist for free expression for example. and i was aligned with.i appeared in the events. the horrible scourge of political correctness and suppression of free thought and free speech. during 1980s in the antiporn movement led by catharine

mackinnon and -- fanatics. so i included this book, but i think is my classic attack. i called in the rebirth of --. those women, they wrote an ordinance which was indeed adopted by minneapolis in indianapolis to shut down even the sale of men's magazines. like playboy and penthouse and so on. on the grounds of supposedly pornography cause violence against women, because wave, because marta etc. these women were deranged. truly deranged woman but they wrote the 1980s and feminism. thanks to madonna, by pro-sex wing that rose appeared he was also helped along by the lipstick lesbians of san francisco. it was like a sell of them. like black leather. then we went national and i thought now we have won, there's no problem. i retired from the season 1994.

after a number of years. when i went back to what i do. i wrote books on the movies. the birds, alfred hitchcock. i wrote a book on poetry, the visual arts. right now, for nine years i've been involved researching native american culture of the northeast. that's what i'm doing. but now i have to go back on the road. 23 years later. we have to return. all of a sudden we have full circle again. and it's got even worse. people smashing windows of berkeley. okay, the capital here they have free speech movement and so on. so here i am again. [laughter] i am not happy about this. i would rather be doing my native american research. what else here? how much time do i have?

coming minutes to have? 10 more minutes. good. okay. so now a number of things. i am calling for the title of my book which is free women, free men. a calling for an end to the sense of war in feminism. women are well launched now. so this reflex, putdowns of men everywhere. this is not to stop. now i know this wherever though the world actually that is upper-middle-class?women are very unhappy. they're very unhappy. even though they achieved a certain status. what i am saying, feminists have to stop blaming men for their own unhappiness. the unhappiness through i believe is due to huge systemic changes that women for thousands of years, women had their own world. there was the world of women. and there was the world of men. and the sexes did not have that much to do with each other.

this is a brand-new experiment. to have this new system when a woman can be economic. they no longer dependent on the father or husband or brother for sustenance. and they are working side-by-side with men in the workplace. this is an experiment. this never happened before. what i am saying in the book, we may have to accept a certain amount of tension between the sexes in the workplace. they have this idea that flicking the pressman enough women will be happy but i say no. i say, is on the basis of my own experience as a child and italian-american immigrant community. is that what women have lost is the old solidarity that they once had when they totally ruled the private sphere. multigenerational, older woman as well as children.

it was a huge tribal experience. and now what women are feeling is a sense of isolation and loneliness. this connection, disconnect from the old function. i'm not saying to the back. i'm just saying stop blaming men. for example, these marches that just happened. the women were exhilarated, they were almost hysterical. i don't think it had anything to do with feminism way if i tromp or anything like that. i think is that woman suddenly felt that surge of happiness again for being with other women. you can see this in the odyssey. when odysseus is washed up, naked in the loan. and he wakes to the sound of women's voices. laughing and singing and so on. they're going down to do laundry on the shore. and that is exactly what was

going on up until fairly recently. we women were altogether. all of the chores they did together. they did laundry, cooking, i can remember this from my childhood. all four were born in italy. this experience went on for many years. woman altogether. my mother described this as a small child in italy. i will of the women would get together to do laundry they would go up the hill to a fountain. it was cut out of the side of the mountain. and probably will thousands of years.she remembered the singing, the picnicking etc. even though people were laboring physically, in the air there was a happiness. a sense of identity. there is no quest for identity. it is no place for an individual.

he had no option as a woman except to become a nun. so i know i would have become a nun. all right i know. obviously, communities are intellectually repressive in their own way. nonetheless, we are in. no quest for identity. tremendous pressure. our young people to for their own identity separate from those affiliations. and there's a tremendous, as a classroom teacher now. more than 40 years, i can see this. and it's really, a tremendous sense of psychological dislocation among young people. they find many ways to try to achieve this identity. carlie trent enforces social media. which is total you know -- in terms of ability to reason, read and write. . i'm also calling for an end to

this insanity of excluding biology. from gender studies. how the work of this happen? how did women studies and gender studies end up teaching about gender without any reference whatever to biology or to hormones? and right now poststructuralism dominates gender studies everywhere.i spent six months writing my deception of -- 27 years ago. and anyone who thinks that -- is somehow the message of universal, is clearly not read my exposure of him and junk bonds and -- the mayor is a broad term i'm sorry! compared to freud okay. i mean freud is out.

the poststructuralist, what were they doing in the past few decades with this crazy parasitic growth of this administrator master class has taken over the universities. in a period of obscene rising tuition costs. student debt that is crippling families and so on where were the great leftists on the college campuses? with eight resistant administrators? denounces student debt? without lamenting the plate of adjunct teachers and so on? no, they were all running conferences. talking about --. they thought that is left is impute these poststructuralist are the worst mercenary careerists. in this country. the leading are retiring as multimillionaires. and they pose as leftists. it is a scandal.

forget -- for heaven sakes. absolutely absurd. we have to bring biology and authentic study of medicine, anthropology, history back into gender studies. that is one thing i'm going for. aside from these things there are a number -- i am on the warpath against the bureaucracy of the campuses. my first job in 1970s, 1976, we have an uprising. as faculty. against the trustees. and the administrators.and huge, publicize. i wrote it up for esquire magazine. and the faculties are totally castrated. what are they doing -- the faculties have actually been marginalized in this country. and they didn't utter a peep as this took over. administrators who are in

league with federal mandates in washington. we are living at an age of stalinism right now. but again, the leftists have talked a big talk. they do nothing were really matters. we should demand 50 percent reduction in a number of administrators. and also 75 percent reduction of salaries. which often exceeds that of the faculty members. people should realize how many of the ills i am talking about, coming from the administrators who are these social welfare do-gooders.after while it is absolutely scathing, they dominated the victorian period. at any rate, in terms of other things in the book. there is a reprint of what i consider an important piece. in "time magazine" i called for the end of this outrageous and

age 21 law in the united states. where young people cannot buy a beer. okay? no in the world except in very repressive regimes, like the united arab emirates and so on. what exactly, and mothers against drunk driving. okay, they wandered into an area here that has been extremely distracted. when that rule was passed in 1984, within young people do that they are unable not to drink? they began taking club drugs. ecstasy and all this stuff that they think it's their bodies. and what has happened to the ability of young people to go to a bar, learn how to drink in a sensible way in an adult context for be able to sit with the opposite sex. learn how to talk. how to flirt. discuss ideas. it has absolutely a full life. no one has -- you can buy

marijuana,. and young people cannot get a glass of beer when they arrived. the outrage that is? argue more outraged? that has to end! what else here? let's see, a quite a few things. just to return to what i'm saying about the solidarity of women. i think probably part of my ability to analyze things comes from my exposure to almost a capsule -- the powerful country woman who had immigrated. his hope is in my book about southern women.

the power of the world paradigm and the strength of southern women and so on. there was a whole town of us from italy concentrated in this area of the triple cities in upstate new york. because of the factory. she factory. then i had the experience of the industrial era which follows the agrarian area. my grandfather and everyone in the town was the factories and dominated with the smokestacks in that. before environmental laws.the site would be heavy on windowsills. you could smell the polls and so on. then my father, fresh out of the -- and world war ii was able to go to college on the g.i. bill. i was born he was in college. my parents married at 20 and admit 21. that he was acknowledging the

cafeteria floor. the only member of the lodge family to the to college. then he became a high school teacher and a professor in syracuse. so we moved into the new sector economy. in my own life i experienced all of these transitions in human history. i think it has given me an incentive to change. i am saying that the country woman were more powerful than any feminist. they were physically powerful. literally in the period before our washers and dryers. everyone did laundry by hand. i can remember my grandmother watching the back porch with a washboard. these women were powerful and had big voices and big attitudes. i mean once of my father was in new york we lived in the upper floor of a farmhouse. there was again hilarious moment. my father was out with his

brother and they were smoking a cigarette. and the form woman yelled at them. i had escaped from the barn. and she said stop her! to my father and my uncle. and the calf thundered by for my father-in-law. backwards. and they chased the calf and carried it back and that she passed she said men! thousands of years women had physical power and mental power they were the equals of men. in fact there is no coincidence that the first states and territories give the women the right to vote work in the west. you know the pioneer, where it was obvious women were the equals of men. whereas right to the very end the educated states, the states where great universities were,

like in pennsylvania and new york state, massachusetts and so on refused to grant women the right to vote. not to the constitutional amendment was passed in 1920. because the differential between the upper-middle-class man and the upper-middle-class woman in the early 20 century was very profound. the lady, a lady seemed to be a different entity and for more emotional and tended to fade and be delicate etc. and so there was an idea of where descent woman however, admirable the right to but was not as easy as it was for the territories. okay, why don't we just moved to the question. i love that and i know you will too. >> hi.

>> hi. class i did not know this was happiness on wednesday. thank you for coming. often times in discussions i'm having with people who have gone to school with and friends of mine often times over facebook where things quickly get lost. no nuance exists there and everything. often times it feels like really the best thing a man can do is to die. and i realize that now hearing you talk and everything that this is kind of the result of the pendulum being swung very far to one end. i was wondering if you thought that we were, are we now at the point where it is about to spring back into a more kind of moderate, let's all actually do something together and treat each other as equals, all genders, all races kind of thing? >> i'm calling for men to take control of their own lives again. i have said in a recent interview that if there is a

woman center at yale university was there is bird undergraduates and they should be amends center. this should be absolute equality. and the men should be totally free to do whatever they want in their amends center. they can show dirty movies or whatever they want. this constantly beating down of men, the demand that men redefine themselves until they suit what feminists want them to be, is an outrage. and it ain't center of the book and the pieces that ran throughout the years. civilization, with all its protections and conveniences is essentially the invention of men. i explained that in my first book by saying that women's power is so enormous that men had to band together to go off and create these objective structures. and i still think it is absolutely right. but it is men that are doing all of the hardest dirtiest work in society. i said in a recent interview, a

whole list of things. when there is an ice storm in the northeast, it is the men who go out at 2:00 a.m. with the live wires and, i rarely see women going out. i never see women manning the great stacks of tar in the heat of the summer that people are mixing to put on the roof.i never see women, as i did last year with an enormous sewage break in the town. men in hazmat suits were up to their knees in wastewater. not a single woman wants to volunteer for that kind of work. people are still depending on men at keeping working-class men invisible. i have watched an attack on sheryl sandberg is incredibly smugly entitled talking about

leaning in while at the same time concealing from site all of those services has n90 that she has. and working-class people were supporting her particular very public lifestyle. i think in general, men are erased the contributions of men are erased and the contributions of working class people are erased. and this has to stop. we need a much more enlightened feminism. i think most men are in favor of women rising in society and being in charge of society. we are no longer in the old days. i want men to recover a sense of who they are as men again. and not feel that they have to obey any list link a checklist issued by gloria steinem and company in manhattan.

>> do believe sexes and is relevant? you have to stop blaming men for their unhappiness that women are treated as less smart or less capable?

and it seems that your words reinforced the notion especially in terms of the workplace. >> so believing in the removal of olive phoenix's with the professional and political realm so absolutely i am focused on workplace sexes of but but what i say with my riding we are not simply working individuals there is a very public side and private side of our lives. i talked about the psychological mankind they're all kinds of impulses and us do want to understand herself as human beings? we cannot simply defined

human beings of what we are in the workplace or in the political realm that was the biggest legacy of the '60s anything from turning away from materialistic career to be on that cosmic quest of meaning in the universe a dual perspective of i am talking about women's advancing in society and also the need as human beings to expand our imagination berger even though i am an atheist i very spiritualist sick of the universe with my vibration with the native american culture. so i am trying to map the actual metaphysical religious perspective of

ancient native americans believe my views represented are very much in five with that. >> i have not read your books by senior video imf and. >> which video item remember talking about college education you were fed up with the whole cafeteria style the eating it should go back to a survey i graduated from college several months ago so i had never taken a survey course in my life. what is the benefit to that type of education? >> of was speaking as a career college teacher that one generation where young people of arrive they will

take this or this or this then the narrow courses are offered by professors. i don't think that is education at all but the broad view in the abandonment is a cultural disaster in this country then you move from the estimated than to abstract expressionism it is the sense of the narrative of the history there is a narrative in history and i talk about those forms at the pierre mid complex knbc

in 5,000 years later. and people who deal with, -- artifacts can recognize is the of legacy so yes i think colleges need to be very stripped-down to make decisions on what to teach i have said 25 years that for me the best multiculturalism is to teach comparative religion to introduce to the entire world with that incomprehension that this group follows these verses

of the chiron with uh period the secular humanism is an absolute failure. none people are starved for meaning that is why they're screaming for politics with the social realm this is a minor part of human existence that is much, much bigger with the universe with wells of deep meaning out there i am not saying not to demand social reform to look for the most just human society possible but to have that obsession with politics a betrayal of the

tremendous and cosmic vision because the apostles of that particular spiritual quest they had some much lsd they never came back thank you for your question. >> thank you for coming at the time that i was recovering so that affects a lot of women so what can the male allies do to help alleviate the situation of workplace sexism? >> i say that a real man respects women.

any man who abuse sends - - abuses women 37 and denigrating fashion shows a weakness that comes from the inner sense that he has of the overwhelming power to prove that i had to write a 700 page book. so with a mutual respect also calling for middle-class girls to stop asking for special protection in the workplace. there is too much crying of the men's behavior with those white middle-class girls bring that to the workplace.

and then to come from the farm landor the street. with the most controversial writing that i have done. to be amazon warriors. and then to understand uh dangers of the world. with of middle-class living room. and those whose women's voices are not strong enough. not to be embarrassed but to confront when it happens for pricey too many cases and

you just except it. but then you speak out and unstop did. immediately. every day you have a responsibility to protect your own dignity. protect yourself. when my generation arrived in college to be in full power they had to sign in at 11:00 at night but the guys could run free all my long.

with ecologist said no the world is dangerous. we said give us the freedom to risk. freedom is the value. not protection. so that dismays me to see young women today wanting the oversight when something goes wrong on the date. but to govern their relationships with men anyone else that is the old way we will become totally free and totally equal. >> you just mentioned up

period of physical effort and then going into the of modern era the think modern society technology is available? we are removing all of the stresses. >> yes. i am concerned because technology today is the art form with access the modulations and evolution of the hand-held devices is the equivalent of the art forms of another society. but i am concerned of the tendency of the virtual reality. but i am very concerned because i see a pattern of

history when you see empires' extremely affluent and complicated to get very complex and bureaucratic structures everything is so interwoven at the same time be educated class that'd is hedonistic with no scruples of heterosexuality and the ancient romans period they are vacationing your pompeii. i am concerned we're headed toward a civilization dependent on other people that will just take one

gigantic asteroids burst to take down the power grid then mankind is scrabbling -- scrambling back so i do feel some concern of the fragility of our culture and secular humanism and the lack of this larger perspective i do feel shadows coming. yes. >> is there an exit from this cycle? >> i do see an organic pattern as things began with great ideas then you start decadence.

i love decadence but i feel i'm not the fall of imperial rome. i consider myself transgendered i think people are starting to understand my book is a trans gender book it was a transgendered protest against the power of nature finally people are starting to wake up to that. >> it's very nice to see another native who was a graduate with a common of bringing our fathers knew

each other with your extended family how is this relevant in the 21st century quite. >> i am not sure we could ever recover that connectedness any longer. from working class or a pool middle -- upper-middle-class families i do know going to us new jersey shore i see with the working class resorts how often you have small degeneration the family is vacationing together. that makes me nostalgic for the upper-middle-class the

more affluent the less likely you will vacation with her parents people runoff to expensive resorts not taking the grandparents with them working-class families every week you can see a bigger families african-american families for -- coming for a day in the park and spend all day there with multiple generations of a family altogether for a day at the park it takes me all the way back everyone knowing each other coming from the same town in italy people growing up next to each other and

then go thousands of miles but today it is a great difficulty for women to manage with also a job at the same time it is the collapse of the extended family into the nuclear family but with my work i think the nuclear family is toxic because we talk about the need for the two-parent family is. throughout most of human history there has not been two-parent family it is multi generational family with uh children but like today with the houses lined up next to reach other with a two-parent family and the

children there like toxic cubicles for neurosis. [laughter] that has never been a whole the prescription for children to be raised. the with than benefited enormously from the labor saving appliances like the washer and dryer to save some much time. but now today on trees to be communal with other women they are now isolated so now you are trapped in the house to do laundry and a higher you rising affluence less likely you know, the neighbors if you do you never dreamed to say can you watch my tour three children

? you wouldn't do that in a million years today in the affluent neighborhood. working-class they knew each other they trust each other also in cities like south philadelphia they are sitting on the porch from the stupid they are watching their is the essence of the neighborhood or a community of the old days but in terms of affluence and power in the workplace they are getting more neurotic of those have not been fully confronted i don't know how to recover but i do think that it is useful for women to realize how much they have lost with solidarity for other women. >> i hope you forgive me but

i emptied into politics. >> i am also. >> what about the voices that allow the rise of mr. trump? >> i am a democrat i voted for bernie sanders and then voted for the green party i view the victory of trauma does the failure of the democratic party of the contrived real problems in the united states that the democrats had no solutions until this coming foray dave very long time it was a mistake to allow the dnc to push hillary clinton through as the nominee in my opinion and quite frankly i wish every number candidates to

vote for. i think it is time for the baby boomers to get off the stage a with the nominees for both parties to be younger people and their late forties or early 50s. but i hope that be a great run of energy it is important for my party the democrats to do a lot clearer i analysis because there were real issues of job creation and production of the federal bureaucracy. the democrats were hopeless is seem to be an octopus or up parasite. and bureaucrats are automatons any entity to be

run by bureaucrats but democrats want to add-on and at dawn. that is not the way, the this is a progressive -- is not progressive they have to come up with the solution to start winning again. >> talk about the differences between men and women that you think are important or that were developed over thousands of years with thinking and feeling your sex drive for workplace? >> i analyze this out link the do think about those biological factors for example, in this slightly satirical in chapter one but

i think that i am right boys have to learn because of the anatomy, have to aim. if they don't when they try to urinate they will soymeal themselves and though wall. they must learn to aim and it carries over into the sexual act. i talked about how freud talks about primitive man will put out a fire with urine i said it is a strange thing to be proud of but a woman who would scorcher hand in the process to put

out the fire so i do leave their are sexual differences and as civilization's evolve and become more complicated gender has the performance quality it is an artifact that is why i have a 700 page book on the subject ultimately there are differences that most have between eight and 10 times of testosterone in their bodies than women. my entire life i noticed the way men talk and think think, heterosexual men different from women my father said when he will listen to the women talking he could never follow the conversation no names were being used.

yet everybody knew what they were talking about. he saw that? she saw that. that is why i love the real housewives. [laughter] but absolutely documents the way the women are in a group maybe not lesbian women been heterosexual women in a group i love to be around heterosexual women talking in a group is a weird energy the women have with each other like the hunter or gatherer of the men go off in the hunting party and had to be silent while they woodstock the parade. talking men did not last long.

[laughter] so i do feel that transgendered people forgave been occupied a middle ground between the sexes in the history of the arts was created with that middle ground that they had the vision of the universe but biologically speaking every single cell of the human body of the dna code tells you what that body is so there is a lot of talk on the ability to change sex buchanan unchanged a sex you can make modifications berger you can take hormones that further change the appearance boltzmann lee --

ultimately every cell will continue to show it is male or feet -- female i don't know what i belong to never have i ever felt female pled don't feel like a man either. i am willing to with knowledge i have made a lot of books from i a dysphoria. i said it is the biggest exchanges history to said the voice the sexual personae is from a transsexual star from the

gore vidal book but it is true. my voice is the voice of a transsexual. i call my book freed women and free men. those in the of middled gain identity from the mass of men and women. >> thanks for being bold and about bringing people like me. and not being politically correct. so with libertarianism are with like to ask you with my perspective is about empowerment the party that

women can be migrating to in my opinion. how do redraw more women to that philosophy and explain to them that the democrat progressives in is the idea to replace men with the government the philosophy is to empower women and men wear. >> do call myself a libertarian as well. but it is true you are exactly right to cannot have a situation where no women substitute the government for the male figures for sustenance we do need many more parties in the united states other than the two that suck up all the oxygen

and the money but countries that have multiple parties often are very fractured they have coalitions needed to govern so i can see the difficulty but no doubt we need negative drastic reform the present structure and now will become from the challenge so would reduce a with your economic policy you been more toward conservative for capitalist but. >> i am fiscally conservative i think free enterprise has brought more people out of poverty than any other program the think we're facing a situation

widow have free enterprise but burdensome regulation and taxation of the vantage of too big to fail corporations. i am a fiscally conservative i feel what we needed the inner city in high-school for those disadvantaged youth to show them the way the system can work with the upper middle-class i definitely believe in a much more jobs oriented system at the off-price kelantan and college level. >> no more questions?

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. >> we have a lot of artifacts coming from his time among anything's the typewriter reid with

university property stamp of the back and a locket that he bore you can look get the jacket that is pretty torn up you like to keep his clothes for a long time you will be the jacket hanging in his office when he went to his last trip to mississippi when he passed away . >> if you visited monticello 20 years ago you would have just seen a classical villa but we wanted to change that because and jefferson's time the first thing you have seen was the enslaved people. we want to restore that for when visitors come here

today. . >> when did johnson when he became president he said the matter outbid the majority who have one year before they start thinking about themselves and january of your second year all members are thinking of their midterm election and they are cautious about taking any risks to help you get your mandates and agenda through