said in meg one of the things that the love about the alleged iris system will of books and wanted to be first in line is all but of panels with the offers your a novelist or writing about syria these are people who don't get to see each other so this moment of conversation that they say something that is just coming up with that that instant in the change of ideas for the moment the drive to abolish male and female. and later, rebecca -- on her book, the mother of all questions.

>> tonight we are delighted to the. >> camlle paglia university of professor at the university of the arts in philadelphia for she has taught since 1984.iversity and masters of philosophy per prior books are art and decadence so of the essays but it to study about 1998 and the film institute she reads 43 of the best including those images she

was supposed to share last year. brushy is here with her seventh book and a selection of the most notable was and pantheon who has been publishing her work in. >> and possibly in 1995. and feminism and religion and education and politicscsshe' around the world. thanks for being here tonight. [applause]

, . >> would apply shirt to be back to the city. it is always a thrill to come back to seattle. but i was testing my third essay collection. i have version so of history and culture but this has been for perot prophetic because it was easier to get the amount no. is absolutely amazing how almost like a tsunami the events of the culture and

the things that i wrote to my introduction of the books to speak directly. the premier principles are free thought and free speech i ever truly a child of the. '60s in that respect. i am totally opposed me but my college influences were heavy to create the great

scandal in 1957 with the trial or the rest of the manager of city lights bookstore for selling be obscene palm - - bob -- poem. transforming the medium of comedy had gagged and vaudeville style to a meaningful style of analysis lennocial problems. to speak little and a conservative as some and then it and -- after a while with the second and bookstore i stumbled

actually it is still available some of they call that no to have many of hisbu wonderful what miners from his dinner conversation organized by topics with this scathing uncompromising quality and then in collegebefot that gave men going against every possible social convention and the control

of speech with underground gay men but in colleges and graduate school life began to agree and then to be defied from convention but that there was the great trial parco but penguin books was brought up with the choices of obscenity. when penguin books triumphed was the grave blow to a resources of the censorship.

but my feminism prove waves but then with the co-founder payment of an now. if i was already a feminist because i was impacted and a map was 40 years old he be -- i became obsessive about the new yet earhart and if that was in the syracusese herald journal i spent three years into my senior project. i went to all kinds of places with the old newspapers and the balls of the library and also i wasel assessed with katharine hepburn but i began to seeth of late-night tv. i did not realize for decades that was first wave of feminism that her mother

was the head of the connecticut women's suffrage organization her aunt wasge also campaigning and small in -- and as a small child so i was getting the first impact in the '20s and in the 30's after women won the right to vote, and we wanted because when the soviets launched into is based but when my member band from the but i said that. and this happens and went to space to million earhart

flying dna take acid is obvious that quest still read means to be one. then i tried to join in the0s women's movement because they have all types of preconception of speech that they were entire rap --ere into rock-and-roll. >> as above cosmopolitan. >> i love the of bond girls especially coming not of the water with their white bikinis.

kozo i love the dallas killed for a cheerleader's. there is no way you take that into the women's movement.. i was thrown off from the start. that i was not made betty friedan she did not createe that need of state new york with those transformations in women that have been are not entirely due to the women's movement.rely due i show how many thingsnt proceeded know we did all that stuff.

but wait. was hoping there was some time but what happened was because it bears no resemblance it was a huge

tribal experience. so no there is a sense of isolation and latest and disconnection. i just say softened. >> pet but you can see this cindy honesty and to be in

the buildup the matching in new york but all four of my grandparents but then they would go up a hill to the cut out the of this side the mounds but then they're

trying to kick cetera emir in the areas you so they'd know. off the agenda of the tremendous sense of the psychological location among the young people.young

and then they fired him anyways the in terms of those abilities to read and to write. but i also call for an end did he insanity from gender studies. how in the world dead this happen in? have are they teaching about gender or that any reference to biology or hormones & structural as some dominatesstsu everywhere. aunt but 27 years ago the

spirit but the postt. structural us to put to pasture uh decades with the his sentence want.

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of salaries. which often exceeds that of the faculty members. people should realize how many of the ills i am talking about, coming from the administrators who are these social welfare do-gooders.after while it is

absolutely scathing, they dominated the victorian period. at any rate, in terms of other things in the book. there is a reprint of what i consider an important piece. in "time magazine" i called for the end of this outrageous and age 21 law in the united states. where young people cannot buy a beer. okay? no in the world except in very repressive regimes, like the united arab emirates and so on. what exactly, and mothers against drunk driving. okay, they wandered into an area here that has been extremely distracted. when that rule was passed in 1984, within young people do that they are unable not to drink?

they began taking club drugs. ecstasy and all this stuff that they think it's their bodies. and what has happened to the ability of young people to go to a bar, learn how to drink in a sensible way in an adult context for be able to sit with the opposite sex. learn how to talk. how to flirt. discuss ideas. it has absolutely a full life. no one has -- you can buy marijuana,. and young people cannot get a glass of beer when they arrived. the outrage that is? argue more outraged? that has to end! what else here? let's see, a quite a few things. just to return to what i'm saying about the solidarity of women. i think probably part of my ability to analyze things comes

from my exposure to almost a capsule -- the powerful country woman who had immigrated. his hope is in my book about southern women. the power of the world paradigm and the strength of southern women and so on. there was a whole town of us from italy concentrated in this area of the triple cities in upstate new york. because of the factory. she factory. then i had the experience of the industrial era which follows the agrarian area. my grandfather and everyone in the town was the factories and dominated with the smokestacks in that. before environmental laws.the

site would be heavy on windowsills. you could smell the polls and so on. then my father, fresh out of the -- and world war ii was able to go to college on the g.i. bill. i was born he was in college. my parents married at 20 and admit 21. that he was acknowledging the cafeteria floor. the only member of the lodge family to the to college. then he became a high school teacher and a professor in syracuse. so we moved into the new sector economy. in my own life i experienced all of these transitions in human history. i think it has given me an incentive to change. i am saying that the country woman were more powerful than any feminist. they were physically powerful. literally in the period before our washers and dryers. everyone did laundry by hand. i can remember my grandmother

watching the back porch with a washboard. these women were powerful and had big voices and big attitudes. i mean once of my father was in new york we lived in the upper floor of a farmhouse. there was again hilarious moment. my father was out with his brother and they were smoking a cigarette. and the form woman yelled at them. i had escaped from the barn. and she said stop her! to my father and my uncle. and the calf thundered by for my father-in-law. backwards. and they chased the calf and carried it back and that she passed she said men!

thousands of years women had physical power and mental power they were the equals of men. in fact there is no coincidence that the first states and territories give the women the right to vote work in the west. you know the pioneer, where it was obvious women were the equals of men. whereas right to the very end the educated states, the states where great universities were, like in pennsylvania and new york state, massachusetts and so on refused to grant women the right to vote. not to the constitutional amendment was passed in 1920. because the differential between the upper-middle-class man and the upper-middle-class woman in the early 20 century was very profound. the lady, a lady seemed to be a different entity and for more emotional and tended to fade and be delicate etc. and so there was an idea of where descent woman however, admirable the right to but was

not as easy as it was for the territories. okay, why don't we just moved to the question. i love that and i know you will too. >> hi. >> hi. class i did not know this was happiness on wednesday. thank you for coming. often times in discussions i'm having with people who have gone to school with and friends of mine often times over facebook where things quickly get lost. no nuance exists there and everything. often times it feels like really the best thing a man can do is to die. and i realize that now hearing you talk and everything that this is kind of the result of the pendulum being swung very far to one end. i was wondering if you thought that we were, are we now at the

point where it is about to spring back into a more kind of moderate, let's all actually do something together and treat each other as equals, all genders, all races kind of thing? >> i'm calling for men to take control of their own lives again. i have said in a recent interview that if there is a woman center at yale university was there is bird undergraduates and they should be amends center. this should be absolute equality. and the men should be totally free to do whatever they want in their amends center. they can show dirty movies or whatever they want. this constantly beating down of men, the demand that men redefine themselves until they suit what feminists want them to be, is an outrage. and it ain't center of the book and the pieces that ran throughout the years. civilization, with all its protections and conveniences is essentially the invention of men.

i explained that in my first book by saying that women's to go off and create his objective structures i stilleate but k it is right if men are doing all of the hardest work in society. it is the men that go out at 2 a.m.. but i see women manning the great tar in the heat of the summer people are mixing to put on the roof. men were in suit up to their

knees and wastewater. not a single volunteer wanted to volunteer for that work. it was incredibly entitled talking about leaning in while at the same time concealing from those who are supporting thes pe particular lifestyle. lifesty in general they are erased and the contributions are you eras erased.

i want men to recover a sense of who they are and use checklists by the company in manhattan. >> a lot of what you said is offensive and bother some to me. living in 2017 women are out there fighting them. why don't they talk about the road crews are.

-- okay my question is do you believe sexism is relevant because women have to stop blaming men for their unhappiness and nowhere was there discussion of sexism in the workplace that women are treated as less smart and capable. i believe in the removal of alln advances to, all obstacles in the societ society for the profl and political realm. succumb absolutely i am focused on the instance of the workplace sexism.

there's a public side of oures life and a private side of our life. it's a 700 page book i talk about the psychological dreamca life of mankind. there's all kinds of primitiveeu impulses. we want to understand ourselves as human beings or can we notwen simply define the the method wee in the workplace or in thela political realm? that was the biggest legacy about turning away from materialistic cosmic quest for meaning in the universe. i think that might work offers a kind of dual perspective talking about women's advance in society, and i'm also talking about the need as human beings

to expand our imagination. even th the wine and ate the history of a spiritualistic eu of the universe and that is my particular vibration with the culture that affects what i'm doing for the last nine years is trying to map the actual metaphysical religious perspective of the ancient native americans. i believe that my views of things are very much in vibe with that. i can't remember which video it was you were talking about college education and you think we should go back to a survey.

i've never taken a survey course in my life so i was hoping you could talk to what you think the benefit of the type of education. >> it is a disaster what has happened. speaking of course as a college teacher which is the generation where young people ar people art that college essay we can take this or this or this and all of these narrow courses teaching that they are interested in. that is not education at all. the best kind of education gives a broad view for the abandonment of the course it's been a cultural disaster in the country. what used to be two semesters begin with the stone age and move alandthat both weighed dowe end of the second semester toanb abstract modernism. this gives a sense of the narrative of history. but of course they are all

false. please. there is a narrative in history. i talked about how it's created that appear amid complex in egypt that can be seen by thousands years later and columns that banks all over the united states and europe and so on. people that deal with artifacts in archaeology and history can recognize the cultural traditions. so yes i think college is needed to be stripped down and making decisions about what they are going to teach. i've been saying for 25 years but for me the bestme multiculturalism would be to teach comparative religion as a

way to introduce students to the world not just the western tradition but the entire world. if my plan had been followe fole wouldn't have a lot of the problems today about islam. people would already know and would be able to discuss the group following these particular verses and there wouldn't be this chaos we have right now. it is an absolute failure. young people are starved for meaning and clinging on to politics but you can't bring to politics the realm. this is a minor part of human existence into something muchuch bigger in the universe. there are wells of deep meaningg beyond the political realm. i'm not saying not to demand social reform or to seek to be

progressive and look for theto most adjusted human society possible that there is a kind of mania abroad right now and they total obsession with politics. again, this is a betrayal of the legacy of the 60s and debris trail of positioning. i've written about this and the reason is the apostles belongs to us because they took so much lsd that they never cam but thed that's the problem. it should have been theac companion books to my own work. thank you for the question. >> thank you for coming. i read sexual persona during a time i was recovering from an incident with sexism. it's something that definitely

affects a lot when men. what can male allies do to help alleviate the constant situatio in a way that doesn't overly blame them? >> a real man is honorable and respects women. any man that treats them in this fashion is showing a weakness that in fact comes from a sense that he has a big women'sthe ovr overwhelming power. i'm calling for a mutual respece but also for middle-class girls to stop asking for special protections. again i want equality of treatment in the workplace, but

i think there is too much geek writing of men's behavior when in fact what too many whiteith upper-class girls are bringing to the workplace is a certain manner of speaking that is removed from the actual harshness of the world and actually working class women, whether they come from the farmland or from the streets understand the risks and danger of the world. from a controversial writing i've done it without the need for women to be amazon warriors for themselves. my philosophy is streetsmart feminism. that's why i pose with weapons and so many of my pictures. it is up to when in themselves to understand the dangers of the world do not expect the world to be annexed in chad of their comfortable middle-class living room and i think that is kind of

what has happened. i see women whose voices are not vo strong enough. women have to learn not to be embarrassed not t but to be loud confront when it happens. i've seen too many cases of women who are dismayed by something they feel is demeani demeaning. the first time it happened, you speak out and stop it. you've are in their face immediately. that's what i believe i represent which is every moment of every day you have a responsibility to protect youry own dignity and it doesn't matter if you are embarrassed or create an embarrassing situation, you protect your self. when my generation arrived in college and 64 of the rules were in full power at the university

of new york where i went to college. the girls had to sign in at 11:00 at night and the guys could run free on lifelong. so it's my generation of women that says we want the same treatment as men, the same freedom. but they said no, the world is dangerous we must protect. we said give us the freedom to risk rape. freedom is the value, not protection. so it's dismayed me to see young women today wanting the parent figures back, wanting the oversight to run to the committee when something goes wrong on a date. i think women have got to stop

doing that. they have to govern their own relationships with men or anyone else and that is the only way women will ever become totally free and equal. >> you just mentioned the physical effort that created and strengthened when men and men and going into the modern era when people became more fragile to you think the modern society with technology is sustainable because constantly, we are removing all of our stresses and efforts on the environment. >> first of all, technology today has become our art form. there's no doubt the constant modulations and evolution of our handheld devices and so on is

the equivalent of art forms in other society but i am very concerned about the sense of dependency on this new virtual reality. i love the web and from the issue of the magazine i've been part of it but i am concerned because i see a pattern when you have empires that become affluent and complicated, you get complex structures and everything gets so interwoven. at the same time you get an affluent educated class that is extremely tolerant but is rather hedonistic and has no scruples about homosexuality and so on.

anything goes. they are vacationing and so on, so i am concerned that we are heading towards a civilization that is so complex and dependent on other people and with electric power, all it will take is one gigantic asteroid first that takes down the power grid and all of a sudden mankind is going to be struggling back so i do feel some concern about the fragility of our culture and removal from nature. with the secular humanism has also gone the station i was talking about and the lack of this perspective. i feel shadows coming, yes.

>> is there an exit from this cycle? >> i believe everything -- i see kind of an organic pattern in history styles. things begin and good ideas, high energy it goes to a certain point. now it is my number one influence that i feel like i have the fall of imperial rome as why i am interested. it's been my subject since i was in college. i consider myself transgender and i think people are starting to understand that my book was transgender. it was a protest against the power of nature and finally i think people are starting to

wake up to that. >> it is nice to see another native. >> i said it's nice to see another native and congratulations.f >> great. >> we have a common upbringing and our fathers knew each other and you are very big on extended family. what sort of a paradigm woulded use the four making this relevant in the 21st century? i am not sure that we could ever recover that connectedness anye longer but i do see that it is still surviving for a working-class family mucworkingn upper-middle-class families. i noticed this for example whenw going to the new jersey shore to

walk on the beach and so on. i see in the working class's words how often you have multi-generations of families vacationing together. it makes me quite nostalgic that something is completely gone from the upper-middle-class. the more apt you are the less likely it is going to be that be usual vacation with your parents. when people run off to expensive resorts in the caribbean and so on they are not taking their grandparents with them but working class families, the park in philadelphia, every week you can see immigrant families sti still, african-american families, they will come for a day in the park with the food, toys, football, etc.. i spent a whole day, multiple generations of a family all

together for the day at the pa park. every time i see that it takes me back to what i remember but it's lost now, this everybody knowing each other, the people that came from the same town in italy and people would grow up next to each other. people have been removed. to get a jo job he would go hundreds of miles, thousands of miles so what you have today is a great difficulty for women trying to manage their household and also a job at the same time. simultaneous is the collapse of the old extended family.mi in my work i think that the nuclear family is toxic.

this talked about the need for the two parent family and so onh there's never been a two parent family. it's been a multi-generationalon family that raised the children. i believe what we have today in america so often is like these houseit's like thesehouses lineh other with a two parent family and the children they are actually toxic cubicles. i don't think that has ever been a healthy prescription foron for children. and another thing is at first, women benefited from all of these appliances like the automatic washer and dryer and so on that saves women so much time, the doing of the laundry and all this. but now today it is to be a communal activity with otheray women and it's turned into an

isolated and lonely thing when you are trapped in a house to dy laundry etc. and the higher up you are the less likely you knoh the neighbors. even if you know the neighbors hwould never dream of saying to them can you just watch my two or three children? you would never do that annuallr in tears in a working-class neighborhood people know each other, they trust each other and also, people in working-class neighborhoods and cities like philadelphia are sitting on the porch with a sense of the neighborhood is lik like a real community of the old days so i think as people move up the scale in terms of affluence and power in the workplace, they are actually getting more and more

neurotic because of those that have not been fully confronted. i don't know how to recover these things but i do think that it useful for women to realize how much they lost in terms of their solidarity with other women. >> thank you for being here. i hope you will forgive me but i'm pretty obsessed with politics. i would love to hear your thoughts. >> i am a democrat and i supported bernie sanders and and voted for joel stein in the green party and so on.ic i view this as a response to the failures of the party to come front the long-standing problems in the united states that the

democrats have no solution to. i felt this coming for a long time and thought it was a terrible mistake to push herpu through as a nominee. it's my opinion. quite frankly i wish there had been younger candidates in both parties. i think it is time for myi generation but they didn't learn to get off the stage. i wanted nominees for both parties to be younger people in their 40s or their early 50s. i don't know how it happene hape ended up with so many older nominees but i hope this is going to be a great blast of energy into the political syst system. but it's important for my party, the democrats, since they made an analysis of the reason for

the issues of job creation and other things, reduction of theio federal bureaucracy. it was an issue the democrats were hopeless with, the bureaucracy is to me a parasite whether it is in washington or college campuses. they are absolutely soulless and the minute you allow an entity to be run by bureaucrats, we are in trouble. i don't call that progressive. so again they have to come up with better solutions and they will start winning again. >> i would like to ask you to talk about the differences between men and women that you think are important whether they are hardwired or developed over thousands of years in feeling

and thinking and sex drive, workplace. >> i analyzed this at length. i speak about biological factors and the way the mind works. if it's slightly satirical in chapter one i think i'm right which is that boys have to learn because of their genital anatomy how to aim. if they don't learn how, when they charge urinate they must learn to aim and eventually that carries over to.

i say that is a strange thing to be caught.th i do believe there are differences in the performance quality it becomes an artifact like others and that is why i have a book on the subject butos ultimately there are fundamental differences that come from the fact most have eight to ten times the amount of testostero testosterone.

my entire life i've noticed the way men talk and think is different than the way women think and i remember my father when he would listen to the women talking, my mother, my aunt, he could never follow the conversation. no names were being used in sentences were not being ended that everyone knew what theyer were talking about. he saw that she saw okay. that's why i love the real housewives. [laughter]ter] i adore it and he hates it. it records and documents the way women are in a group. i'm just talking about heterosexual women in a group, talking in a group, i love it

and so do a lot of men. there is a weird energy they have with each other and it goes back to the hunter gatherer era while the men went off in the hunting party and had to be quiet and silent. i do feel many occupy the middle ground in a tremendous amount of the history of the arts was created in that middle ground in that they had a vision of the universe but biologically speaking every cell of the human body has a code so there's a lot

of talk these days about thee sx ability to change sex but you can't do that affect you can make modifications and takebergr hormones that further change the appearance of the body that ultimately a certain point, every single cell in the humanti body will continue to show it io either male or female except for a number of truly intersex people. i know what i belong to and never a day in my life have ii felt female but i don't feel like a man either so i'm willing to acknowledge i have a gendere dysphoria and i made a lot of books on that.

i have said sexual persona isget the biggest sex change in history. it was said by this guy in massachusetts who said the voice of sexual persona is the voicepe of myra breckenridge who was a transsexual store of a book madr into a movie that should have been great but was a terrible movie. that is true my voice is the voice of the transsexuals. i believe it is time to valorize transgender, people in thef mide middle, to gain identity from the existence of so i applaud

you. >> thank you for being bold and going into this realm, that empowers me. i sort of grew up baptist caliban if you will and i made the jump to libertarianism and i would like to ask you from my perspective libertarianism is about empowerment. how do we draw more women to the libertarian movement where the idea is his right of replacement with the government whereas the libertarian philosophy is tohe o empower women and while alsoen empowering men. >> i call myself a libertarian as well although i'm not a part of the libertarian party. this is true we cannot have a

situation where women now substitute the government for the male figures. we need many more parties in the united states that we have the parties that suck up all of the oxygen. we need the reform of the structure and it will only comeo from the challenge in the green party, too although i don't agree with everything they stand for. would you say in terms of your

economic policy for more conservative or capitalist -- >> i am fiscally conservative and it brought more people out of poverty than any other government program. we are facing a situation we don't have free enterprise, we have the taxation that is suppressing small businesses and individuals to the advantage of the too big to fail corporatio corporations. we kick out the homes, the homeowners so i would say i am fiscally conservative. >> we have the teaching of entrepreneurship to show them the way the system can work and it's this kind of thing that the

comfortable middle class get from their parents. i believe in the jobs oriented system. >> thank you very much for coming. [applause]