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air in the near future in booktv on c-span. you are watching booktv on c-span2. here is our prime time lineup. at 7:00 p.m. you will hear from former skin head leader, author of romantic violence. then at 8:30, we sit down with author allen who offers thoughts on skiens and communication. and then rachel pierson decribes here experience as a resident physician. at 10:00 p.m. an "after words," mike lee recalls the work of the forgotten men and women who fought against a large federal government during the founding. and david kaut mcculla presents speeches on american principles.
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that happens tonight on c-span2, booktv. >> gretchen carlson is the author of the book, take your power back, is the name of the book. what are you saying? >> to be fierce and encourage all women who feel like they have been put down to speak up and have a voice. it is not just about harassment in the workplace. it is about any avenue in which women feel like they haven't been heard. it is hitting hard for some girls that believe in school and move on to college and have a problem with campus assault and date rape and move into the workplace and many are confused and surprised to find out we are not necessarily always treated equal there with pay inequality and other areas. and many of us will be harassed.
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the book is really about empowering women in all aspects of their lives and sharing my life lessons and what happened to me along the way. also, what we need do join together and be fierce and talk about policiepolicies. >> it was well publicized why you left fox. can you tell us why? >> i cannot talk about the case until we reach a settlement but what inspired me to write this book is i heard from thousands of women across the country immediately after that happened. when i jumped off the cliff by myself last july, i had no way of knowing there would be any kind of suit at all. what moved me and they were sharing their own stories of personal sexual harassment and many had never told anyone else
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but felt they could trust me. i started printing off all these stories in my home office and there was thousands of them and i said to myself i need to do something with this. and that is what this support was. giving a voice to the voiceless. what has been amazing is so many women felt victorious for us. they never had their story made in so many cases. they feel the public plunge i took was a victory for them as well. >> i think i read in this preview, 70% of women have experienced some type of harassment. >> that would be a low figure. when i go and speak in front of thousands of people i ask them thooraise their hands and in 2017 almost every single woman still has a story. we think we have some so far. and you know, i have two
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children, 14 and 12. i really want to change this for them and i know so many parents across the country and i don't want to fathom so many going to work and doing something about this. this is coming together and deciding how to come together and fix the problem and the book only explores different angles from talking about how we need men to help us and parents to that take a pledge together to raise kids can gender neutral y neutrality. there is a chapter on a playbook of helping women navigate the waters who find themselves in. there is a ton of information in this book about picking people up and saying enough is enough and we will do something about it. >> you also report that up until the 1970s, the term sexual harassment didn't exist. >> yeah, look at where we have
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come in society. we have made great strides with regard to civil rights and the equality of women but we still have work to do. with you look at it from that perspective and it is only 2017 we have made a lot of progress but what i found out is we still have so much more to do. one of the biggest issues is the mythed that surround sexual harassment. when women get the guts to come forward, why are they penalized? i found out the majority of women who find the strength to do something about it in many cases end up getting fired, the perpetrator stay in the workplace and those women never go back to their chosen field or profession. we need to get rid of the myth
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about if you speak up you are a troublemaker or you are trying to cause problems and don't get along or can't take a joke. we need to celebrate the women to finally have strength to come forward and eradicate this myth out that is still out there. >> you also report that women almost feel guilty if they are harassed. >> yeah, because i think in some ways women are still raised to feel like they are to blame for things that happened in their lives. a lot of us are raised to be r
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pereffe pereffepe perfectionist. i call myself a recovered perfectionists. that is setting myself up for failure. it inhibits some women from having a voice or coming forward because they don't want to make any waves. >> what constitutes legally sexual harassment? >> it is really complicated. and i am not a lawyer and i don't want to give any legal advice but it is really unwanted suggestions or advancements. there is two kinds of sexual harassment.
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a hostile work environment or quid pro quo which means you are asked to fulfill some sort of obligation to keep your job or get a promotion. so, you know, i explained all of this in the book and consulted many experts who specialize in this 24/7 so that people will be able to get all the knowledge they need in reading the book. but it really comes down to being subjective and whether or not a woman or a man feels as if they are in an environment that doesn't feel comfortable for them in the workplace. i can't talk about my feelings extensively other than to say the most important thing is my children and making sure they are okay. >> when the final copy of the book comes out in october, will
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it include some of the women you heard from? >> oh, yes, extensively. and here is the interesting thing, sexual harassment is pervasive in all areas of life. i interview taxi workers, politicians currently serving who are being sexually harasseded, accountants, doctors, teachers. it runs the gamut. it is everywhere. i think that is why so many women have felt courageous in hearing my stories because mine was so public and maybe theirs never was. people stop you on the street to
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tell you the story. >> what would the men talk about. >> they often want to shake my hand and say thank you for doing this for my daughters, for my grand daughters. i think if men have children who are daughters they are very grateful because this goes back to what we were talking about earlier who wants their child to eventually going through something like that. >> go back to minnesota and shut the hell up, grow up, move on,
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stop whining, gretchen your show sucks. you are a dumb nobody has been, hope nobody hires you, you stink, etc. >> my twitter feed and my facebook posts. >> is it hard not to feel those? >> yes, everyone is human but luckily for me, because i was fixed a long time ago and in my past resume of life i was miss america and having gone through that experience, and just my resume of being valedictorian and going to oxford and being a clasicate violinist and i had to learn how people attack you for no apparent reason. i remember going to my father
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and saying dad, especially coming from minnesota, why do people not like me just because? and he gave me advice i think about every single day and it has been helpful in the last year which is you try to accumulate as many people as possible if you are positive and you keep trying with those who don't. in the end, if they don't decide to come to your side, you have to let it go. that advice has been paramount to my life in the last year. i don't expect to please everyone with what i did or this book. but i do know that i am going to empower thousands of others to want to learn more about the issues. >> you said you are a recovering perfectionist. what does that mean?
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>> i thought i was going to be recovered at 40. but kind of happened. i just turned 50 and now i am proud to say i'm on the road to recovery. i think it is important to change as much as possible in life. a lot of time that takes grit and determination and that fighting spirit and yes, perfectionism. but it can lead to a tremendous amount of unhappiness because nobody is perfect. i think we should celebrate our mistakes a little bit more in this world especially with our kids. stop giving every tid a trophy. make them earn something and fall on their face. when you get into real world, you have to know how to handle yourself when mom and dad are not around.
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>> take your power back from october of 2017 this is a preview on booktv on c-span2. >> this weekend, booktv on c-span2 features a panel discussion on race in america today at 5:15 eastern moderated by april ryan, washington bureau chief for american urban radio networks and author of "at mama's knee" and "the presidency black and white". >> i remember watching these young ladies march and talk for us when we didn't have voices and letting us know we count, we matter, in a time when many of us were not at the table. if you don't have a seat at the table, bring a folding chair. >> mary francis berry, author of
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five dollars and a pork shop sandwich and the author of how exceptional black women lead and author of they can't kill us all and the author of are we better off. on sunday at 1:15, pulitzer prize winner speaks with charles gibson about his collection of speeches on american principles. >> and i began to speak about the great presidents down the years who have been avid readers of history. many of them wrote history including john kennedy. and even though those who didn't have the benefit of a college education like harry truman read history all their lives and realized it is essential to the role of a leader.
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