experiences with food, weight and self image and paul hawkins discusses project drawdown. also this weekend, "new york times" business correspondent jack ewing provides a history of the volkswagen car company, its corporate culture and efforts to deceive emission standards in the us and retired army officer conrad crane talks about the implementation of the military's counter insurgency doctrine. that's a few others you will see this weekend on book tv on c-span2, television for serious readers. first up, kathryn smith looks at the life of marguerite lehand, franklin d roosevelt's closest, personal and confidant.

[inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> good afternoon and rake-- welcome to the franklin d roosevelt residential library museum. we are excited you are here today. of this program is a special one. i will tell you about it in a moment. if you are familiar at the program, about a 30 minute talk and 10 minute question and then a book signing. we have c-span here today, so if you ask questions, we ask that you use the microphone. this is made possible because of our trustees and members. we have a trustee here

today. thank you very much for your support. [applause]. >> raise your hand if you are a member. thank you very much. that makes these programs possible. if you are not a member, get a pin for free admission to the library today. we have a temporary exhibit right now on the japanese internment and i hope you will see it. today this program is special because we won't be hearing from the author. we will be hearing from a principal, recently a fantastic book was written called "the gatekeeper" by catherine smith who did a numeral -- enormous amount of research about one of the most important players in the roosevelt legacy. the book was called the gatekeeper: the untold partnership that defined a presidency and is truly remarkable. the way to take a deep

breath enclosure eyes and we are going to transport you back to june 17, 1933. i'm going to introduce you to a woman who is probably the most powerful woman other than oliver-- eleanor roosevelt in washington during this time. she had known franklin roosevelt when he first ran for vice president, had been with him through his polio recovery and when he was governor of new york and when they arrived in washington dc in march, 1933, she was technically the secretary, but really almost a de facto chief of staff. if you wanted to see the presidents, you had to see this equally hand. this was a very sexist time in washington and it was difficult to be acknowledged. eleanor roosevelt was breaking bounds by her exercise of her role as first lady redefining

what it meant to be a first lady and missy really defines what it meant to be the president's assistant. please, warm hand to missy. [applause]. >> thank you for that warm greeting. it's such a joy to be here at heide park. you may know that the president is on his way up to temper bellow for vacation and i will join him there with some of the other staff. it's the first time he has been there since he was stricken with polio in 1920. so, a well-deserved vacation. we have just finished the hundred days of our administration. it ended yesterday june 16, and what a hundred days. i don't think there will ever be another one like it at a white house.

[applause]. oh, marvelous. this is an audience full of democrats. [laughter] >> i heard that were-- there weren't that many. at any rate it makes your head spin to think all that happened in the 100 days, but the banking system was saved unemployment problems are still very severe, but they will get better the president who sometimes you ask mr. roosevelt what he does for a living and sometimes he will say i'm the president of the united states and sometimes he will say i'm a tree farmer from dutchess county, so i think he rather prefers the tree farmer to be honest, but one of the things he thought up was to create a tree army. roosevelt's tree army, civilian conservation corps. as we speak to men by the thousands who are unemployed are going

into the forest to plant trees, build picnic shelters and roads for parks. it will be a truly wonderful thing and then there's the other important thing the president spearheaded, which was making it legal to drink beer and wine again for the first time since 1920. j-- some of us never stopped, of the course. [laughter] >> let me tell you a bit about me and how i came to work for mr. roosevelt. i'm irish catholic. i was born in pot stem in upstate new york. my grandparents came over on what has been known cause a copper ship during the irish potato famine. 70 people died along on these ships. my grandparents got here safely. they were quite young and were married as

teenagers. they had a baby, daniel. my grandfather, daniel was working on a church building in pot stem and something fell on his head and killed him. my poor great-grandmother never remarried and that's why my father was that unusual creature and only child in an irish catholic family. [laughter] >> but, i'm the youngest of four children, born in pot stem-- i gave away my age. 1896. 80 well-- anyhow we moved to somerville which is it a city within the city of boston and that's where i grew up. i went to public schools there in my education was going along well until i was diagnosed with rheumatic fever when i was a young teenager and spent about

two years in bed recovering, so i didn't finish high school until 1917 when our country had entered the great war. well, i was feeling patriotic so i took the civil service exam because i had studied secretarial science somerville high school. i was sent to washington to work at the department of the navy and i never meant that charismatic young secretary-- assistant secretary of the navy franklin delano roosevelt at that time. in fact, my career at the navy was rather checkered. it was very boring. i was in this area of top secrecy and i was given a sheet of squiggles, stenography and i had to type it out and then they gave me another sheet that had nothing to do with the one before and so on an all day long and by the end of the day i was so tired and i did not know what i had done, so my

roommate felt the same way. we were in a boarding house and one day we would send word we were sick and we would play hooky and we went up to mount vernon and went sightseeing. red marvelous time until we got home and there at the boarding house when the price was a nurse from the department of the navy and she said, you don't look sick to me. we were both sent to a doctor. my roommate was not sick, but she detected my heart murmur from the fever and said maybe you need a job that's not quite so stressful, so i went home to boston. a few years later i got a letter from a man named charles mccarthy who i had met at the department of the navy and was now the campaign manager for one franklin delano roosevelt who was running for vice president and he needed help at the campaign office, so i went to manhattan. i didn't see a lot of mr. roosevelt because he was on trains going all

of the country speaking on behalf of the presidential nominee, james m cox. well, it was not a good year for a democrat of any kind of. they were destroyed by the republican ticket of warren g harding and calvin coolidge. now, for my words i say that warren g harding was the worst president in american history. most historians would say, well, maybe one of the worst. i think the only reason he wasn't the worst was because he died in office and he was defeated by calvin coolidge better known as silent cal. of a said once mr. coolidge got in office the only way you could recognize him from the furniture in the oval office was if he moved. [laughter] >> there was a woman sitting next to him in a dinner party at the white house one time and

she said mr. coolidge i have a bad to that my girlfriend can get you to say more than two words. he looked at her and said, you lose. knowing it would be a wild before we got the democrats back in the white house again mr. roosevelt decided to work on wall street and he needed a good private secretary, so he asked me to work for him and i said i don't know mr. roosevelt, i find law work about the most boring thing in the world. there aren't any lawyers in the room, are there? i didn't think so. you all a very nice. at any rate, he said don't worry missy-- by then he was calling me miss it because children started calling me that before long everyone did. don't worry missy, i find law work pretty boring myself. there will be lots of other things to do and he was right because he was involved in all sorts of causes and i

went out to manhattan, stayed with a cousin and enjoying working for him very much and in august, 1920-- august 1921 he went to campobello island that he was stricken with polio. perhaps better known as infantile paralysis, which is a terrible disease for a man who is 39 years old and 6'2", but that's what happened. over the next four years mr. roosevelt tried everything he could to be able to walk again because he hoped to reenter public office. he said if a man is going to run for office he has to be up to walk first. he wasn't making it a lot of headway until 1924, when he heard about a young man in warm springs, the tiny town of warm springs, georgia, who exercised in the mineral pools there and had been able

to walk with just a cane and that was mr. roosevelt's great desire because crutches are medical device, but a cane can be a fashion accessory, so in 1924, in october, he and mrs. roosevelt and his valet and i got on the train and went to warm springs and i must say it was a bit of a shock for us because we had not spent time in the rural south before. mr. roosevelt got right in the pool and loved it he said he could feel his toes move for the first time in three years and soon he could walk about in water up to his chest. mrs. a roosevelt, not so much. one day she and i went to get some chickens for supper and if she was horrified to learn that you had to buy the chickens on the cliff. we brought the chickens back to the cook. the cook strangled the

chickens in front of mr.'s-- mrs. roosevelt's eyes and after witnessing the execution she didn't enjoy her dinner very much. the next morning she said to me, missy franklin once stake for dinner tonight. what shall i do? okay, i made that part up. she didn't say the part about the state, but you know what president roosevelt says, never let the truth get in the way of a good story. at any rate mrs. roosevelt back on the train. they had five children to look after and she's a very busy lady even then with all of her causes and interest and i stayed in warm springs with mr. roosevelt. word got out that such a famous polio survivor was hoping to swim his way to health and before long other polio's were coming there. mr. roosevelt bought the place, turned it into a fine rehabilitation

facility, which it is today still and in 1928 he was convinced to run for governor of new york. he won by a whisker. we spent four years there in albany, at the governor's mansion where he lived with the roosevelt's and we began the practice, which continues to this day of myself being the backup hostess to mrs. roosevelt so she could continue to be his eyes and ears and do many of the other causes and interests she has. so, the very exciting election of 1932, mr. roosevelt carried 42 other 48 states and all but 59 electoral votes. that's what i call a victory. electoral and popular. we went to the white house taking office in march, 1933.

some dreadful dreadful things have happened before them, the most serious of which was the banking crisis. banks all over the country were failing and taking the life savings of americans and mr. roosevelt and his advisers were going to try to use an old world war ii piece of banking legislation to close down the banks temporarily and reorganize them. h would require an opinion for the new attorney general. will, unfortunately, the man mr. roosevelt decided to appoint, senator walch was coming to the inauguration to be sworn in and he had just married a few days before and mr. walsh was in his mid- 70s and he had married a much younger woman, very attractive widow from cuba and he died on the train. they said it was his

heart, but after all of that no one knew who to nominate for attorney general and i finally said what about former cummings and he said oh, well, he's a lawyer and has been the democratic party chairman what else do you need to do to become attorney general, but unfortunately he was slated to become the governor general of the philippines. they said to him what would you rather do and he thought malaria or a nice safe desk job in washington. i think i'd rather be attorney general, so he took the job and the banking system was saved and you can thank me in small part for that. [laughter] >> thank you. i'm going to let my biographer, kathryn smith tell you the rest of my story. [applause].

>> okay, girls, that was the accent. jane and barbara are missy's great nieces and y'all stand up, please. [applause]. >> barbara and jane scarborough and they were so wonderful to work with and so generous in sharing their great aunts papers with me. the book could not happen without them and i have been a little nervous doing the boston accent since obviously i'm not from the part of the country. my husband leo in the front row and his father is, so i just kind of imitated his yankee relatives. sounds like the one on my desk at the white house. anyway, missy in 1933

came in as the private secretary to fdr. she was part of a four person management team. can you imagine the whole west wing managed by four people? three men, louis houck, political advisor, steve early who is they are able press secretary, marvel mcintyre, appointed secretary and missy who did everything else. overtime as health health declined he was in an oxygen tent by 1935 and then they shipped him off to enable-- naval hospital because he was causing 70 problems. missy began taking over more and more of his duties and became what we would think of as white house chief of staff, a job title she didn't have. no one had it until eisenhower became president in the 50s because he was a military guy in military guys like chiefs of staff, but she did all the things and lived in

the white house. she was eleanor roosevelt backup whenever eleanor was traveling, the eyes and ears of the president and as we know eleanor roosevelt traveled so much that her secret service name was robert. there were a joke she would never know when she would pop up like in a call mine, so she would come back and report on the present and for the president she had so many of her very own causes and interests that she was passionate about and she felt comfortable letting make-- missy be her backup hostess. they had a good working relationship by that time. she didn't feel nervous things would be done wrong or missy would overstep her boundaries. missy knew she was not first lady. eleanor was first lady. she lived in the white house and that also met she worked around-the-clock. she was on call around the clock, so she might work at her desk which

her office was only one adjoining fdr at the white house pick she might work all day long at her desk and evening time would come and she might have organized a poker party for fdr or brought in someone to do some musical entertainment or she might just spend the evening with him in his private study working on his stamp collection or listening to music and talking of the day. since neither fdr nor missy kept journals, we have no idea what kind of conversations took place, but we can imagine. she was a very astute person politically. she had a very levelheaded. her high school education was the only level of education she attained and sometimes people said despite having only a high school education-- y'all, the lenore roosevelt out of high school. she didn't have anything beyond what we think of as a junior year. none of these people running the secretariats had more than a high school education, so it wasn't that unusual.

it's what fdr treasured that she had roots with a blue-collar families and that's what missy had. her family was-- had really struggle. her father had been a gardener turkey might have been an alcoholic irish gardener, but they struggled. curse sister worked in a department store as a sales clerk kind of thing, so she could bring the knowledge to the white house and say this is what's going on in my old neighborhood in somerville. she was a good talent scout for the presence and one of the most important people she brought into a circle was a man named tommy corcoran. tommy was also irish catholic, but it graduate of harvard law school, a student of the celebrated law professor felix frankfurter and frankfurter has 70 protéges around the capital that they were known as frankfurter's happy hot dogs.

[laughter] >> tommy was a pretty happy hot dog, but frankfurter set missy a lady of introduction and that i would like you to meet my friend tommy and i think he could do that present a lot of good. she met tommy and they hit it off great and she recognized his abilities so she brought him into the white house one night to play the accordion after dinner. fdr loves to sing around the piano or the accordion or guitar the white house and tommy had a fine irish tenor voice and then he started showing up at missy's office in the mornings and he would say i was on capitol hill or i was at a cocktail party and she would say let me go tell that. she would say tommy is here and says such and such and more often than not fdr would say send tommy and and that's how tommy got his influence and became the white house lobbyist on capitol hill. he worked for the federal government

already, so he was a federal employee, but the white house did not have a lobbyist and he was entered call to pushing this legislation that was going through. that's the-- after the first 100 days it got harder because the crisis was over and even though they had overwhelmingly democratic majority in congress, democrats are pretty unruly coalition, kind of like republicans today. so, it was not always easy to get things past. that was one of the many things missy did. eventually she became so powerful in the white house that you could not wake fdr up after he went to bed without getting her permission, so on the night of the early hours of september 1, 1939, a phone call came to her bedside table and said hitler has invaded poland, to me like the president up and she

said yeah, we can for that one so they put the call down to his bedroom. she ran downstairs in the two of them set up through the night digesting and dealing with this terrible terrible news. fdr wrote out a piece of paper and he wrote hundreds and hundreds of these little chips telling people what to do or making notes about this or that and this just summarized what actions he had taken and he signed it fdr, in bed, september 1, 1939 and date and time and give it to missy and she put it in her scrapbook, so missy's scrapbook held what apollo said is one of his favorite documents of the collection because it's so personal. missy story like the story of 70 people who slave over their jobs in the white house ended sadly. lee mentioned her rheumatic fever. over the years she had

more and more her problems, became more and more likely to have atrial fibrillation and things like that in june, 1941, after a spring when fdr had been sick all spring and she had spent countless hours sitting by his bedside doing the business in his bedroom working around the clock he finally got better and there was a white house dinner party that night. she had a terrible spell that was probably a heart attack. eventually had a stroke, went to the hospital and they had a severe stroke and was incapacitated. she was 44 years old. i know. when i started writing the book every time i got to that part i got so sad. she had such a marvelous life till that point, but she had the stroke. she stayed for the summer at the hospital

in washington and then at fdr's suggestion she went to warm springs for rehabilitation. she was paralyzed on one side, but even more seriously she had problems with speaking and that sort of thing. she was there on december 7, when pearl harbor was bombed. terribly upset about that. she called the white house and talked to grace, her assistant who is now filling in for her. of the president she said i want to talk to the president or at least she got that message across the best she could. he never called her back. the next spring she was so depressed that warm springs and making so little progress that they brought her back to the white house thinking it would cheer her up to be back in the bosom of her white house family. it had the opposite effect and from what i could determine from her nurses law, the nurse who was looking after her she was just kind of

drinking in bed in smoking and eventually she set her bet on fire. fdr famously said the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. he could have added and a fire because he was terrified of fire. the white house was very much a tinderbox, so when she healed up from the parents they sent her home to her family and that's where she lived for the rest of her life. she died july 31, 1944, and if she had not seen fdr since leaving in 1942. and a lot of people judge him harshly for this. one thing i learned from working with jane and barbara is that he had continued to stay in touch, sent a lovely gifts, cards and called. he paid all of her medical bills and of course, he's been known for some time that he left half the income of his estate to eleanor and half to my friend marguerite lehand for her medical care because he wanted to be sure that missy was taken care of. even though she died

before he did he did not change the wording of this will. one of the really poignant things i learned from missy's great nieces is that to this day missy's grave the at new auburn cemetery in anchorage is kept up by the roosevelt family, so what a legacy of her importance. when i went to to see her grave there it was the first time that she really seemed dead, but then i can start reading the book over again and she is back to life again. that's the nice thing about having a book. anyway, i came away-- i really feel sorry for people who start writing books about biographies and then low that the person they are writing about. how many brooks on hitler do we need? i came away from this one admiring missy even

more than when i started. i came into this project i was commenced i would find out she was the great love of fdr's life and i came away not at all convinced that they had a romantic relationship, but thinking what an incredible, powerful, important woman she felt -- was, so i hope that's what readers take from the book can i take questions? i think anyone who wants to walk to the microphone. do you have a question for missy? i can try and pull the accent out again. >> we do talk about their time together in louisville? >> caren chases here and she's author of this wonderful book about fdr and his houseboat. i didn't let missy talk about that because she never mentioned it. we are still debating how you say it. when fdr went down to the florida keys

beginning in 1923, he rented a boat one winter and bought one for a friend, john lawrence, and for three years missy was the hostess on the boat, so she spent more time with him really than any other adults as he was recovering from polio. it was the boat-- i love the way of was described. fdr said it was a fine little packets. his co-owner said it was a floating tenements and after-- karen's book makes it pretty clear because it was a floating tenements, crammed with people must all the. lots of visitors and partying, prohibition was going on. who cares? missy was the hostess and she loved the time to achieve up to fishing she would go on vacation and go fishing.

she has built an important role that all nor roosevelt was unable or unwilling to do which was the emotional companion and support to fdr during this dark time. when they went on to warm springs again she became not hostess there at a cottage he owned and eventually the little white house which he built and she had her own bedroom and bath in the little white house. is was on the other side and there was a bedroom with a bath adjoining his and that's where other guests could stay if eleanor came. date understanding you-- she usually stayed in a guesthouse behind the house. i have a story about the little white house. they were nice enough down there to let me go to missy's room and i went into the bathroom and noticed there was a roll of that creepy toilet paper like to use to have been in europe, but it had a wire around and i asked the ranger why and she said we had to do that with both the rolls of toilet paper

left in 1945 because people were sneaking in and stealing a sheet as a souvenir. i mean, what you do, do you frame it? she loved the little white house some of her time at warm springs, so i think isolation during that really difficult few months when she was trying to rehabilitate must have been dreadful because it's a little little town in the middle of nowhere and she was used to being in the thick of things she loved being in the white house and loved working with the roosevelt's. >> can you speak about the relationship between missy lehand, fdr and grace. >> grace came to work for fdr campaign for governor in 1928 as a fill in for missy because she had had some sort of illness. she had a lot of atrial for a belated, so commit another case of that and it would knock her down for a while.

anyway, grace came down after the victory and met missy and she had been warned missy was protective and she would have to tread lightly, but the two women got along great. grace said we were like two sisters who never argued. all indications that was true. they took their vacations together, for example. there was kind of an evolution once fdr got back into private life that he liked it to refer to his staff as the children and he called himself pop up or father and that's kind of how he was with missy and grace and a lot of the women who worked there. i don't think ever got louis out, but after stroke grace probably moved into her position as private sector cherry, though, she never had that extent of the power and confidentiality missy had a missy wrote all of the checks. she had power of

attorney over his checkbook and gave eleanor roosevelt her allowance every month. grace did not have that much power and she was smart enough not to live in the white house, so she had more of a life of her own and lived with her aging mother. >> thank you. >> another very important lady. questions? >> was there another man in her life? >> yes, there was ml is another thing that i had not been explored brutally. missy was in love for a while with a man named william christian bullet. what a name for a diplomat. he was the us first ambassador to the soviet union in 1933, and then he became the ambassador to paris. he began courting missy in 1933 and they had-- whenever he was home and he came home quite a bit

considering how far off it was and how it hard travel was. he would take her out and wine her and diner and they would spend time together, but from my reading of her letters to him she was happiest when he was on his side of the atlantic ocean because he was a real ladies man and she got wind of that. that's kind of painful. it's been written in a number of books that she went to europe in 1934 with rumors they would be married, which she denied and she went to russia and found out he was having an affair with a ballerina and broke it off. she never went to russia. he was having an affair, but they continue to have this relationship until 1940, when the nazis came into paris. bullet was criticized for not going to bordeaux with the french government, but actually he stayed behind, helped

negotiate the peaceful surrender of the city, so it wasn't destroyed and then he helped american citizens get home and then he came home himself in july, 1940. it's obvious from their correspondence that he immediately started prepping her for getting him a better job and just being too attentive and why haven't you called me and you didn't return my calls and she finally had a big fight with him on a camping train and sent this is it. if you can't respect that i have more important things to do, private secretary and chief of staff of the president of the united states, the hell with you and i was. she broke up with him. he was the most-- she had lots of male friends. she and harry hopkins were great pals. she was a very social person and loved to go dancing. she really enjoyed the celebrities she met him up to go to the theater,

so she had a very full life beyond just being the white house chief of staff. you had a question. can you go to the microphone? can someone asking for you. there we go. >> my question is, what was her relationship with sarah? >> sarah seems to-- sometimes they tried to keep things from sarah like franklin was on the houseboat with this nation woman, but for the most part she really cared a lot for missy. she called her sweet little missy as opposed to grace who she called totally. i think she liked grace, also. when missy had her stroke sarah roosevelt was in poor health by then, also. she wrote a nice letter and said why don't you come up with me at hyde

park and we will rest together, but as it was a sarah roosevelt died that fall, so fdr lost two of the most important women is his life at the same time with his mother dying and losing missy's companionship and support, so tough for him. >> thank you. >> yes? >> thank you for writing the most excellent book. i enjoyed reading it and you filled in a lot of gaps. >> thank you. >> missy was a critical player in what-- roosevelt's life from the 1920 vice president of campaign until she died and 41, so my question to you is, if you could ask fdr a single question, what would you ask and what do you think his answer would be and the same question about missy lehand maybe start with missy first. >> the thing that comes to mind with franklin is why didn't you go see

her after she went home and he would probably say i just couldn't handle it, but he was leading the allies in the fight of world war ii, so a bit busy. his health was so poor, also. the question i would have for missy is did i get it right, so i don't know i always like to state history is a moving river and you dip your bucket in and you pull it up and figure it out, but keeps moving, so even with karen's book that came out a few months after my nikon mistakes that i made, which most i was able to correct in the paperback edition, which is good. think all you have is the hardback because you want a really good hardback. >> no one gets everything right. there are sony details in the roosevelts were so secretive in their

own way, but how much do any of us know about anybody else. what about your parents? my mother died last year and i went through her staff cleaning out her houses and i learned a lot about her and she was my mother, my best friend, so when you're dealing with a stranger, someone a historical figure like roosevelt where there are sony documents anyway-- what are there a million documents in this library? you can expect a get everything right. i know a lot about fdr and i didn't catch any mistakes. >> thank you. >> . one thing that people don't really know about missy being sort of the unofficial ambassador to the catholic church. so important. >> yes, thank you. that was fdr's deadly

secret, which as an important source for me. as a catholic, the catholic voting bloc westermann is the important. he carried like 89% of the catholic votes and in keeping that relationship good and strong was important. there were a lot of irish catholics in his inner circle, jim farley his campaign secretary was one. what i love about him as he was such a professional irishman. he always signed his name in green ink. tommy corcoran was another. joseph kennedy was a really important one and he and missy were close friends. kennedy loved being in the inner circle with fdr. they had sort of a tumultuous relationship, which in the end broke down, but he leased this mansion in maryland, when he was working as chair of the fcc and

missy would arrange for him to have evenings out there and she would bring on the irish catholics with her and they would just sit out there and sing irish songs and play the accordion and drink it have a big old time. also, she and grace had been the secretary of a bishop, so they major all the catholic leaders could come to the white house at any time and keep that relationship strong with fdr, so very important and it was especially important because father called glenda, the radio priest, this guy had a bigger audience than rush limbaugh, many times bigger. the country was a much less populous place, so it was really important to counteract his hate speech because he was very influential. >> i believe i read that

roosevelt left half his estate to ella-- eleanor and have to missy lehand and he outlived her, but barely. i remember-- i believe i read in order to do that fdr disinherited all of his children. >> yeah, it was not have to estate. that was an error in her book. it without the income and a lot of people have made that same mistake, but if you read it's half the income. it disinherited them until missy died and then it would revert, so, i mean, those kids they could make a living and they said she could not. >> it did revert to them? >> yes, but he told his son jimmy about this on the day of his inauguration his fourth time and he said it's the least i could do for her. she served me so well for so long and asked for so little in return and i think that is one of the nicest things you can say about missy. [applause].

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