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a look at some of the events will be covering this week. one day, where politics and prose bookstore here in washington dc to hear from former staff writer and editor for national geographic kate line very as she recalls the life of the first african-american captain of the us army ship. also that evening, will be in new york at the brooklyn bridge park with former literary editor of the london times, erica wagner's book is a biography of the builder of the brooklyn bridge. on wednesday were back in washington at busboys and poets were georgetown university law professor paul butler will argue that statistics are influencing racial injustice in policing america. also that evening, will be a tattered covered bookstore in denver where radio broadcaster and journalist david baron, reports on the american scientist who studied the solar eclipse of 1878. saturday will be back at politics and prose to hear a story and william randall recover how the united states use the 1812 war to become international independent of great britain. that some of the events that will be coming this week and many of these events are open to the public.
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look for them to air in the near future on the tv on c-span two. >> stop harassment and take your power back. gretchen carlson is the author. ms. carlson what are you trying to stay with this cover? >> guest: to be fierce. to encourage all women feel like they been put down or subjugated in any way to speak up and have a voice. it's not just about harassment in the workplace. it's about any avenue in which women feel they haven't been heard. it says early on for some girls going to school, some of on the college and have a huge problem with and we move into the workplace and many of us are confused and surprised to find out that we are not necessarily all treated equally there with equity and other areas and unfortunately many of us will also be harassed so the book is
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about empowering women in all aspects and sharing my life lessons and what happened to me along the way. also, what we all need to do to join together to be fierce and to take back our power. >> host: it was pretty well-publicized that you left box. can you tell us why? >> guest: i can talk specifically about my case as i reach a settlement. but what really inspired me to write this book was that i heard from thousands of women across this country immediately after that happens and when i jumped off the cliff myself last july i had no way of knowing if there would be any kind of a safety net at all. what really surprised me was hearing from these people. they were sharing with me their own personal stories of sexual harassment and many of these women have never told anyone else. they felt like they could talk
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to me and they knew i would get it. they started thinking of the stories in my home office and there were thousands of them and i said to myself i have to do something with this. that was really what the purpose of the book was. giving a voice to the voiceless. what's amazing is that so many women have felt victorious and they never had their stories heard so many ways and they feel that the public funds that i took was a victory for themselves. >> host: i think i read in your preview 70% of women have experienced some type of harassment. >> guest: that would be a low figure. when i speak in thousands of people are lessened to raise their hands and unfortunately 2017 almost every single woman has a story. it's unbelievable to me. we think we've come so far and i
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have two children their 14 and 12 angela, i want to change this for them and i know so many parents across the country don't want to fathom the idea of their daughter going to work and having to say something like this. it's really about coming together and deciding how were going to fix this problem in the book explores so many different angles about how we'll do that from talking about how we need meant to help us, talking about parents take a pledge together to raise our kids with gender neutrality and power boys girls and boys. there's a whole chapter on the playbook of helping them navigate the waters that they do find themselves in in a situation like this at work. there's a ton of information in this book about picking people up and saying enough is enough and will do something about it. >> host: you also report that up until the 1970s, the term sexual harassment potentially
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didn't exist. >> guest: yet, look where we've come in society. we made great strides with regards to civil rights and with the quality of women but we still have work to do. when you look at it from that perspective you say it's 2017 and yeah, we have made progress but what i found out is that we still have so much more to go. one of the biggest issues is the mess that surround this issue of sexual harassment. what we need to really get past is when women finally get together, come forward and say something about why are they penalized and what i found out was the majority of women who actually find that strength to do something about it in many cases, and up getting fired, the perpetrators and stay in the workplace and the women never go back to their field or profession. that's wrong. so, we need to get rid of the mess that if you speak up you're
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a troublemaker or that you're trying to cause problems and you don't get along or you can't take a joke. we need to celebrate the women finally have strength to come forward and try to eradicate this myth that is still out there. unfortunately, it's hard to believe but it's deftly still out there. >> host: you also report that women almost feel guilty because of that. >> guest: yet, because in some ways women are still raised to feel like they are to blame things that happen in our lives, even things that are out of their control. so much of this book is how women shouldn't feel guilty anymore. a lot of us are raised to be producers and were raised to be perfectionists and while that
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has been handy for me in my life as far as accomplishing goals that i set my mind to i like to call myself a recovered a perfectionist and i'm trying to teach myself transfer kids, specially my daughters, to not be a perfectionist. you're setting yourself up for failure. we all make mistakes and that's when we learn from our failures. especially on the pleasing side, that inhibits some women from having a voice, from being able to afford because they don't want to make any waves. so, that goes to the parenting chapter of how we can try to raise our kids to not be that way. >> host: what constitutes sexual harassment? >> guest: it's really comehither. i'm the first one to say that i am not a lawyer so i don't want to get any legal advice but it's unwanted suggestions or advances that is actually two kinds of sexual harassment in a hostile work environment or quid pro quo
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which is basically mean that your asked to fill some sort of sexual obligation to keep your job or get a promotion. so, i explained all of this in the book and consulted legal experts so that people could get the knowledge that they need while reading the book but it comes down to the objectives. whether or not a woman or man feels as if they're in an environment that doesn't feel comfortable for them in the workplace. >> host: did you hesitate before you jumped off the cliff? >> guest: yet, i talked to sensibly about my feelings other than the most important thing for me was my children and making sure that they're okay in all of this. >> host: when the final copy of
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this book comes out in october, will it include some of the women that you heard from? >> guest: extensively. it will include -- here's the interesting thing, i interviewed workers, wall street bankers, politicians -- politicians were currently serving and being sexually harassed, doctors, teachers, it runs the gamut. that was what was astounding to me. it isn't just in a couple of professions. it's everywhere. i think that's why so many women have felt courageous and hearing my story because mine was so public and maybe there's never was but again, they felt that power in my voice and they felt the victory that they might never have had. >> host: people stop you on the
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streets. >> guest: they do and in my unscientific study in new york city actually more menaced on me than women. i take great pride in it. >> host: what would the men talk about? >> guest: most often they would want to shake my hand and say thank you for doing this for my daughter's or my granddaughters or my niece. if men have children, specifically daughters, they are very grateful because it goes back to what we talked about earlier, who wants their child to eventually go through something like this was like no one wants that. that's why we all need to be invested in this issue. >> host: you opened this interview and this is just a preview of the book in october but go back to minnesota and shut the hell up, gretchen needs to let it go, she brought it on herself.
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grow up, move out, stop whining, you're a dumb old, never as been, hope no one hires you think. et cetera et cetera. >> guest: my twitter feed and my facebook posts yeah, it comes with the territory. >> host: is it hard not to take it seriously chris mike. >> guest: well, you know, but luckily for me i developed thick skin a long time ago and also in my past resume of life i was mse through that experience it was my resume of being valedictorian and graduating from stanford so i that was illustrated and i was also a classical violinist. i had to learn early on when i was 22 years old house suddenly people attack you and don't like you for no apparent reason. i remember going to my father insane dad, coming from
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minnesota which you understand the minnesota night thing, why do people not like me just because? he gave me advice that i think about every day. it's been helpful this last year which is you try to accommodate as many people as possible and you keep trying with those but in the end, if they don't decide to come to your side you have to let it go. that advice has been paramount to my life in the last year. i don't expect to please everyone with what i did or what this book but i do know that i'm going to empower thousands of others who want to learn more about this issue want to have their voice heard. >> host: you refer to yourself as a recovering perfectionist. what is that mean? >> guest: i thought i was gonna
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be recovered at 40 and that kind of happened but i recently turned 50 and now i'm on very proud to say that i'm on the road to recovery. i think it's important to achieve as much as possible in life and that takes great and determination and that fighting spirit and yes, perfectionism but it can also lead to a tremendous amount of unhappiness because no one is perfect. i think we should celebrate our mistakes a little more in this world, especially with our kids. stop giving every kid a trophy and make them learn something. make them fall on their face. when you get into the real world, you have to know how to handle yourself when mom and dad are not around. so, perfectionism, and proud of it.
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>> host: gretchen carlson, be fierce: stop harassment and take your power back comes out in october of 2017 and this is a preview on it but tv is meant to. >> but tv recently visit capitol hill to ask members of congress what they are reading this summer. >> there is one book that i am reading now and i just about finished is sebastian youngers book called tribe. he's the author of perfect storm. i chose is a book about ptsd, reintegration of our veterans back into society so is a great book. i recommend that you read it. i serve also as a cochair of the literacy caucus here in washington and one of the things that i encourage everyone to do is read the summer obviously, we read a lot of boring things here in washington, papers and policy papers and all that but just for fun this summer i'm going to
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read david baldacci, i'm about two bucks behind and i read every book that he has ever written and i'm starting with his first one and have never given up on him. he's a great writer and also i'm going to read the introduction book. andrew jackson was the first person to hold my congressional seats. in tennessee, where i live, the district i live in had two presidents and one of them is andrew jackson and andrew johnson. those are folks i like to read about the summer. >> but tv wants to know what you are reading. send us your summer reading list via twitter @booktv or instagram at book -underscore tv or posted to our facebook page facebook page/but tv. but tv on c-span two television for serious readers
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