my local bookstore. thank you so much for your time congressman. we want to know what you're reading. send us your summer reading list via twitter or instagram or post posted to our facebook page television for serious readers. and you're watching tv on c-span two. we are in new york city at the publishers infiltrate so and what we would like to do during the summer is preview some of the fall books that are coming out. next up we want to introduce you 's so we quit. she is the author of this book crash override. how we can win the fight against online hate. what do you do for a living. against online hate. what do you do for a living. ultimately my day job as an

independent game developer. let's go to the game or part of that. what exactly do you do x. >> since i'm independent i make most of the stuff on my own. i am a programmer, writer and artist. it is a little bit of everything. i try to make that there. what point of the game have you developed. an audience is familiar with that. it is an interactive game about living with depression. in describing what happens in this game are you on a consul like a ps for or something.

>> know i try to make tried to make my design as acceptable as possible. you are given a situation to ask to go to the parties. it is some choices in the normal healthy option of just go out and have fun with your friends. you are given a bunch of other options to try to show through getting the players to actually do what is like to live with depression. how did you get into this. i actually learned from other independent game developers. a lot of us are either self-taught or we do our own thing. there is a big spirit of community and they will come

in and try to make their own games. how big is this world of gaming. >> consider how many had been on public transit. almost everybody plays games now. and it encompasses everything. there are people making really cool art installation games. something happened to you while you were a gamer and that's what your book is about. i decided if i couldn't control him anymore. he would get the internet to do it. he left specifically long blog post they could -- basically the perfect target for the

undercurrent of hatred towards people and on the internet at large. he actually worked to make that go viral. it is trying to ruin your ex- girlfriend's life. how close to become. i still get constant death threats. they found out where i live. and one person spent upwards of five figures. and do research and things like that. it caught on outside of gaming with the right wing. they didn't have a word for it. i refused to back down and call it what it was.

and i didn't just hide. what does this head to do with politics. they have numerous pieces about me. they link to the new photos of me. it's not personal at all at the same time. from the game inside. from all different walks of life. you can be here. it's just the entire element. even if your feminism amounts to please stop sending out

online. there are some me that lined up perfectly. a wrong place at the wrong time. >> when you first found this blog post online where were you and how did you find it. it found me. i was actually out with my new boyfriend and we were about to go to france. i can do what i do. and then my phone to start buzzing. it is sort of like counting the time. the time between got shorter and shorter. my phone is just growing up -- blowing up. i sort of have it work backwards from that. a friend of mine said i don't

know if you know this but someone just registered on these forms and posted this really far out threat about you. i got deleted immediately. i just watched from the rest of the night. i just got used to screen shutting everything. i have a recorded history of everything. gigabytes of people. it's a very weird sort of effort. your book crash override where that title come from. it came from what is more important to the story. my boyfriend at the time we

used to pre- hacking drinks. for the next few months if you did that for more than ten minutes we would come back to something like that. we laptops with us. no matter where we were. would be online. it have got hacked. so he and i went into action while we were out with a friend. you guys remind me of that movie hackers. it was one of the handles from that. it kind of gave a bad name. the thing that crushes on around you. it was really important to me. i didn't want to just be about this terrible thing that happened. the entire second half was what did i do about it. what have we been doing about

it. >> when did you get involved in the gaming world? >> i was a gamer but kind of a weird one. i didn't have a nintendo or playstation going up. it have shifted in 1993. it was not the best idea. all of the thing that is really terrible. and being a weird kid about it. they ran at both at the same time.

my dad have gotten a consul at a garage sale and 97. i started to meet other girls -- gamers online. that's when i became part of the committee to. it wasn't until i was 23 that i knew i could make a game myself. they don't get as much support that they do.

it is underestimated how many of us there are. from your book crash override we really need to interrogate the traditional wisdom that mostly white and mostly male western decision-makers have counted as answers to online harassment and we need a truly diverse range of thinkers to be actively welcomed into the conversation. what is the background on that. i think that largely came from going to a number of companies someone comes to us and they are having a crisis immediately. we know what they are. we know that this is something you don't want to happen. otherwise the reporting system

they are doing. a significant volume. but the problem i would run into is that everybody was i was talking to in leadership positions were white men were white women who thought that involving the police for example was the best possible situation which doesn't make sense if you are already a person who is mis- proportionately targeted by traffic. they get your home address. in the bomb threat of that happening at your house. hoping that it will go to your house. that institution that had numerous issues with violence towards marginalized people

and they are waiting for it to catch up. we just made that our law. it is negligence. every time i would be in these rooms were brought in to have that viewpoint alongside of hours was having the same conversations over and over this is not relevant to my experience. it is a specific sort of violence. and threaten or harass them. it might be a form of harassment. it's like how could that be harassment. that's part of the reason why. it has a major issue there.

there's not a ton a ton of diversity there either. and not had these perspectives is frustrating. i can't even give all of them. i have my own limitations. how it nearly destroyed my life. and how we can win the fight. book tv recently visited capitol hill to ask members of congress what they are reading in the summer. it is a fantastic book and everything i have heard about it is wonderful and it talks about association of life in america an issue i am in looking into the joint economic committee and talks about some of the struggles of

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