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serious readers. >> stop harassment and take your power back. gretchen carlson is the author. what are you trying to say with this? >> to be fierce. encourage all women who have been put down are subjugated in any way to speak up and have a voice. not just about harassment in the workplace but any avenue in which fit women feel they haven't been heard. early on some girls are bullied in school, then we move on to college and have a problem with date rape and move into the workplace, many of us are confused and surprised to find that we are not always treated equally with regard to pay inequity and other variables and many of us are also being harassed. the book is about empowering

women in all aspects of their life and sharing my life lesson and what happened to me along the way but also what we need to do to join this movement together. "be fierce: stop harassment and take your power back". >> host: you left fox, can you tell us why? >> guest: i can't talk specifically about my case until i reach a settlement. that is the nature of settlements. what inspired me to write this book was i heard from thousands of women across the country immediately after that happened. when i jump off a cliff by myself last july i had no way of knowing there would be any safety net and i heard from all these women. they were sharing with me their personal stories of sexual harassment. many that i hadn't heard from anyone else. they felt they could trust me. they knew i would get it. i started looking all these

stories in my home office, there were thousands of them. i need to do something with it and that was what it was. giving a voice to the voiceless. what was amazing in this process was so many of these women felt victorious to me. they never had their stories heard. they feel the public plunge took was a victory for them. >> host: i read in this preview 70% of women have experienced some type of harassment. >> guest: that would be a low figure. when i speak in front of thousands of people and ask them to raise their hands. in 2017 almost every woman has a story. it is unbelievable to me. we we have come so far. my two children, 14 and 12 -- i

knew so many parents across the country don't want to fathom the idea of their daughter going to work and having some like this happen. this is really about coming together and deciding how we are going to fix this problem. how many angles of how we are going to do that from talking about how we need men to help us, parents take a pledge together to raise our kids, this gender neutrality and empower girls and boys. there is a whole chapter on the playbook of helping women navigate the waters they find themselves in a situation like this at work. a ton of information about picking people up and saying enough is enough. we will do something about it. >> host: until the 1970s the term sexual harassment was a gloomy thing. >> guest: look at where we have come in society, we have made

great strides in civil rights, equality of women, we still have work to do. when you look at it from that perspective, it is 2017, we have made a lot of progress. what i found out is we have so much more to do. one of the biggest issues is the myth that surrounds the issue of sexual harassment. what we need to get past is when women have the guts to come forward and say something why are they so penalized? if a majority of women find that strength to do something, in many cases end up getting fired, perpetrators stay in the workplace and those women never go back to their chosen field or profession and that is wrong. we need to get rid of the myth that if you speak up you are a

troublemaker or trying to cause problems and don't get along or can't take a joke, we need to celebrate the women who have strength to come forward and try to eradicate this myth. it is hard to believe but it is still out there. >> women feel guilty. >> women are raised to feel like they are to blame for things that happen in their lives. so much of this book tells women not to feel guilty anymore. a lot of us are raised to be pleasers and to be perfectionists and that has been handy for me as far as accomplishing a lot of goals i set my mind to i call myself a

recovered perfectionist and i came to my kids, my daughter, to not be a perfectionist. you are setting yourself up for failure. we all make mistakes and we learn more from that and on the pleasing side that inhibit some women from having a voice, they don't want to make waves. that fits into the parenting chapter. >> what constitutes legally sexual harassment? >> it is complicated. i'm not a lawyer so i don't want to specifically give any legal advice. this really unwanted suggestions or advancements, there are two kinds, a hostile work environment or print quote paul -- quid pro quo where you are

asked to fulfill the sexual obligation to keep your job or get a promotion. i explain all of this and we consulted many legal experts specializing in this 24/7 so people get the knowledge they need from reading the book but it comes down to being subjective. whether or not a woman or man feels they are in an environment that doesn't feel comfortable for them in the workplace. >> host: did you hesitate before you jumped off the cliff? >> guest: i can't talk extensively about that except to say the most important thing with my children and making sure they are okay. >> host: when the final copy comes out in october will it include the women you heard

from? >> the interesting thing, sexual harassment is pervasive in all walks of life. i interview wall street bankers, politicians currently serving who are being sexually harassed. i interview accountants, i interview doctors. it runs the gamut, teachers. that was astounding when i started hearing from these women, that it wasn't like it was just a couple professions. it is everywhere. that is why so many women have felt courageous hearing my story because mine was so public and maybe there is never was. they felt that power in my voice, felt a victory they might have never had. >> host: people stop you on the street. >> guest: they do. in my unscientific study more

men stopped me than women. i take great pride in that. >> host: what did the men talk about? >> guest: they want to shake my hand and say thank you for doing this for my daughter, my granddaughter or my niece. men have children and daughters, they are very grateful because it goes back to what we were talking about earlier. who wants their child to go through something like this? nobody wants that. that is why we need to be invested in this issue. >> host: you open this preview coming out in october. go back to minnesota and shut the hell up, gretchen needs to let it go, she brought it on herself, grow up, move on, stop

whining your show sucked. nobody hires use cake, etc. etc.. >> guest: my twitter feed and my facebook posts. it comes with the territory. >> host: is it hard not to take them seriously? >> guest: everyone is human. luckily for me i developed thick skin a long time ago. in my past resume of life i was miss america. having gone through that experience, as if my resume of being valedictorian and graduating stanford, like all of that evaporated when i was a classical violinist. i had to learn early on when i was 22 years old how people attack you and don't like you for no apparent reason. i remember going to my father saying especially for minnesota would you understand, why do

people not like me just because? he gave me advice i think about every day and it has been helpful in the last year which is you try to accumulate as many people as possible who feel positive about you. you keep trying but in the end if they don't decide to come to your side you have to let it go. that advice has been paramount to my life in the last year. i don't expect to please everyone with what i did or with this book, but i do know i will empower thousands of others who want to learn more about this issue and wants to have their voices heard. >> host: you refer to yourself as a recovering perfectionist. >> i thought i would be recovered at 40, that kind of

happened. i recently turned 50 and i am proud to say i am on the road to recovery. it is important to achieve as much as possible in life and a lot of time that takes a lot of grit and determination and fighting spirit and perfectionism but it can also lead to a tremendous amount of unhappiness. i think we should celebrate our mistakes a little more in this world especially with our kids, stop giving every kid a trophy and make them earn something, make fall on your face. when you get into the real world you have to know how to handle yourself when mom and dad are not around. recovered, reformed perfectionist and proud of it. >> host: gretchen carlson's book

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