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remember them. thank you. [applause] >> so we have like six events in a row, the beautiful people from c-span book tv are here. see all the people moved. i like this. thank you, we appreciate it. we want to thank our sponsors. thank you. [applause] i'm the program director and we have one more of these coming up in july. if you go to speaker series, a brad event, he puts on a great show and a few more that going to announce after that. that's the business, we really appreciate everybody for being here, without further due i would like to welcome chris
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stigall and eric bolling. [cheers and applause] >> all right. how are you y'all doing? thank you for the welcome. you literally left the set in new york. >> this is exactly how it went down. 6:00 o'clock, my assistant said, we have to go. right now there's a car waiting for us to take us from 48th and sixth to new york city to penn station, i get in the car, i press my ways app, it says
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you'll be there at 6:37. i said kyle i have to run. i swear to god i get out of the car and it's 90-degrees, i'm running, holding the shirt and i'm running seventh avenue, sweating, it was like frogger. cars are coming and i'm like stopping and going, running this way. i made it with like four minutes left to go and i'm so glad i did. [cheers and applause] >> what concerns me you running around in new york and there's a lot of new york liberal drivers. >> any of them recognized me, i was done. flat frog, frog legs. >> thank you, guys, thank you
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for their services every chance you can. >> they jumped at this at the second we asked could eric come to host book talk. first stop on book tour. [cheers and applause] >> chris, a year ago we sat down and we did this at the train station, if you remember that, you guys are so much fun. i said we have to do it again. what's the address of this venue? >> how about this? not only -- i haven't even shown you. i don't know if you've seen. let me show you, i took this picture a second ago before i came in. i pulled in, yes, you probably know by now if you don't that you are on swamp road. [laughter] >> total coincidence. i came in on the intersections of swamp and liberty. [cheers and applause] >> wow, how about that?
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i said if there was more of a poetic intersections, swamp and liberty. all right the people of c-span are tellingtous sit down. >> to be honest with you, this is one of the crazy coincidences that i have been experiencing with this book. maybe the cartoon and the movies. i happen to type in swamp dc and a picture comes up, ten pages in and it's the capital building being built on a swamp and i just went, i said, this is the
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right project at the right time. it's that picture right there and that's the capitol building, part of the dome isn't on yet, they literally had to drain the swamp to build the capital but they drained the literal and let the metaphorical swamp. to make long story short, that was one of them. fantastic. >> how about it? >> everybody weave eric's facebook live right now. >> i don't know if you follow me on facebook and twitter, social media, we have some of the most engaged fans -- the view crew. they watch the five, the specialist, they go online and they are just amazing. true patriots. they love fox, they love everything we are doing.
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>> by the way, top radio listeners. >> oh, yeah. [applause] >> so wake up yesterday and i see that one of the first tweets of the day is from the most powerful man of the free world is buy eric bolling's new book, rupert murdoch. that's sean show and you see it with sean talking about your book. all in the same day. i have never seen a rollout like that.
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>> you sleep about three hours before you launch a book, monday night, we had the book party, our publisher let's get hype for the book, anyway, so we do this book party, we have cocktails, facebook live, wait, c-span is here. we have a few cocktails and then i take my wife and my -- four of my close friends to the party, they buy a bottle of wine, the publisher says great news, i have an interview set up for you. got home at midnight or so and had me at fox at 6:00 o'clock in the morning but here is the important -- >> tell me you were drunk on "fox & friends".
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>> no. no. >> i think doocy kind of is anyway. >> i love doocy. i make it by a minute. we do this thing about the news of the day, the travel ban, trump's travel being upheld and some of the health care stuff. getting into a pretty heavily and then i get off the set and i tweet exactly what you just said, hey, get my new book, it's out today, the president has a copy, which he does and it gets retweeted within a minute. a minute after i'm off the set, he retweeted that tweet. it blows up. people are calling me. that's pretty cool. and like an hour later, the picture of the book, the cover with a link to barnes & noble and amazon. i'm like, really. it was amazing.
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the book was inspired by donald trump. he did have the first copy of the book and to be clear, eric was, ann coulter was the only one i know other than you that very early, early in the primary process said, trump is the guy. >> day one. day one. i watched -- this is true. [cheers and applause] >> i've known donald trump for a long, long time. yes, he's going run. >> can you talk about that? i don't want to interrupt the story. can you talk to us to the lead-up? >> ten years ago he was doing apprentice before celebrity apprentice and i was on fast money on cnbc. hey, you would like trump. well, i don't know trump. come on, you worked for mark who was producing the apprentice program, the brand.
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i go to some cocktail party and it ends up being a cocktail party on tv and a fundraiser. we are hanging out having some drinks. make a long story short, i met donald, he met my wife, we were friendly and over the years i had gone to a lot of the apprentice and celebrity apprentice events, eventually i started working out at fox and interviewing donald at "fox & friends" in the morning. he knew that i come from a financial background, so we had a connection and he would call before, call after say, that was good, that was great. i developed a friendship with trump over the years. when he -- first of all, i wasn't sure if he was going to run. i was surprised he did. i was shocked he did. when he came out the escalator in melania, every single human being in the news room, there had to be thousands of people who were working, hustling, no one could pay attention to anybody else. everyone staired at the tv, he's got something.
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you can love him or hate him, he'll got something that's going to get america's attention. he's going -- and he did. and so here is the thing, throughout the campaign there were bumps that john mccain thing was an issue, the reporter for "the new york times" was an issue, the video, the audio from billy bush's thing was an issue but i stayed with him and i got my television, let's call it teeth kicked in, my butt kicked in on a daily basis, if you watch the five, it wasn't easy being protrump on the five for a very long time. there were probably six months where it was four on one and it wasn't because i was the liberalist because i was the protrump guy. he knew that. he watches a lot of tv. after the election, he calls me, i didn't even though, i'm driving home with my wife from dinner and the phone ring and it's caller id is blocked and it's donald, eric, it's donald, i'm like hey, i put him on
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speaker so my wife is listening. you know, you were with me from the start. i know, i saw this coming. i always had confidence in for the first time, mr. president. you know something else, when it didn't look so good for me you were there and so here is the point, the reason that was relevant to me was that you never saw that on the campaign trail. you never saw a doubt in his mind, but that's donald trump. he didn't want to portray, he wanted to show the confidence straight through and he was thinking that there was a point where it dipped. i just -- i knew -- i just knew he was going to win. i don't know how to explain other than he has the it factor that i knew he was going to win. >> you know the media business. i've been honest about this. i confessed it as often as i can because it's important to be honest about this, i voted for donald trump but i never in a million years thought he could
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possibly weather bill you bush thing. i said it's over. you know the news media, how did they weather it? >> wow, this is very -- this is the moment. if he survives this, he's definitely going to be president and i went to tv the next day and people were just waiting for me to show up on tv so they could beat me up and i went and said, look, the guy isn't a politician, he says things that most politicians would never say or get caught saying or admit to saying, however, think about this for one minute. think about if it's not donald trump, is it going to be hillary clinton, and are you sure you want a supreme court that's going to move far left for probably the next three or four generations and it was the one thing, i think, that no one could ever argue with. you can despise donald trump but he was the guy who was going keep the supreme court center right and maybe even further right. neil gorsuch is a rock star and
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-- [applause] >> and when justice kennedy retires, we thought it was going to be this month, he may stick around for another year, probably next year. he will have another conservative on the court and you'll probably get a third in next seven or eight years if ruth bader ginsburg decides to retire which i think she should. [applause] >> think about that. that's a truly conservative supreme court and that matters for many, many years. >> that will undoubtedly be his legacy without question. have you been to the white house? >> i have. >> you have? >> yeah. >> like a private visit? >> you want me to go through the change in tv schedule which prompted the visit? >> i've got the juicy fox questions coming up. >> okay. >> the day we launched the specialist which was may first, i called him up and say, listen, i have a new show going, it
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would be really cool if the first day i could launch with interview of the president. no problem. like that. no problem. come on down. it went from we are going to do it on friday, aired on monday, do it on saturday or air on monday, monday first day of the show but it ended up coinciding with 100 days, 100th day on saturday, 100th day of presidency. i department didn't -- i didn't want it to lose value. i went to dc sunday night, got up, crack of dawn monday morning, interviewed the president, had a great 15 minutes with him, got on a train, rushed to union station, got in train and made the 5:00 o'clock show. they sent it ahead, they cut it and we aired it on the first show. the interesting thing about the whole event is you sit down -- you set up. you have people, advance people who set up the room, they have cameras everywhere, the white
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house has their cameras and their thing and we have ours as well. it's whole production. this is going on a couple of hours. the president walks in, sit down, we bang out 15 minutes. 30 people in the room watching -- >> very tightly scheduled. >> the west wing and not in the oval office and he does something that no one expected and probably no other president has done or would do, he said, eric, you wanting to in the oval office and i said, yes. then he says, hey, all you sound people and camera people and hair and make-up, you guys wanting to in the oval office too, we said, yeah, we want to go in the oval office. [laughter] >> that's donald trump. >> eric, i have to tell you -- >> that's donald trump right there. it wasn't the tv camera or host that was going to give him a favorable interview or not. everyone in the room, come to the oval office and you can tell your kids you're in the oval.
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>> yeah. [applause] >> the american association of sheriffs met pretty early on in his presidency and one of them was from chester county, she and i talked about her meeting. she told a similar story, they're all in the roosevelt, hey, wanting to to the oval and they walk in and even his staff is kind of, do you want to clean the desk off, they take the picture, i said to the sheriff and i say to you, that's what i take away from him, he really believes that's the people's house. he really believes that. [applause] >> one step further, one derivative of that, he's believe he's one of the people. what billionaire do you know who is so friendly with a regular person it doesn't matter who you are, say something crazy or tell you you're pretty if you're an
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attractive female, that catches his eye, i think it happened yesterday, there was a reporter and he said, wow, you're pretty, attractive and the news media went crazy. that's bad to say now? anyway, he's the president, the most powerful man on the planet, a billionaire and if you didn't know, if you were sitting next to him, you would think it's one of you, except for the hair. it's real. >> i still take that hair, by the way. >> i bet. >> i would even take that hair. [applause] >> so i have to ask you the tumolt that fox news has gone through, we have to shut anybody and everybody down that had to do in their minds helping this man succeed to get to the white house? was it coordinated? >> you mean the turnover at fox,
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the events that led -- >> yes. >> fox was a very different place a year ago. i can't even count one hand the amount of very, very high-rated hosts that are no longer at fox. no, i don't think it's that. i think it was -- it was a time that had comment, i was absolutely shocked to understand what was going on with the boss with gales. they did the right thing. they did the right thing. >> do you believe there was merit to it? you don't think it was a totally meritless witch hunt? >> again, i don't know the details. apparently there were tapes and pictures, leading up to it there was no indication. now, do i think and this is my personal opinion, just an opinion, do i think that there are a lot of satellite lawsuits
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that popped up, they probably have no merit but interested in let's just get through this period, bad time, it's a bad time for all this happening and let's get through it and settled a lot of the lawsuits, maybe they wouldn't settle if they had been one or two. >> may i ask you over certain individuals? >> you can always ask. >> i'm not answering. [laughter] >> her ratings aren't doing so well, aren't they? [cheers and applause] >> can i qualify that? >> i don't think you need to. >> let's be honest for a minute. megyn kelly is talented, she's a
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lawyer, i've seen her take apart guest and leads them into an ambush, they walk right down to the corner and she takes their legs out. >> including many people feel the president. >> fair enough, fair enough. okay. he's the one who sat down with her. okay. so but i've seen her -- she's done it to people on the left, i saw her do it to lou dobbs. she doesn't discriminate based on your ideology is. here is the point. i think she's extremely talented. she's in the wrong place right now. she's at nbc, they want to make her soft, touchy feely, she's not soft and touchy feel yes. >> there's no question that that time in history that roger and fox news felt that she was their biggest rising star other than o'reilly at the time that she was on a trajectory to be their new benchmark. >> she was 25 years younger than
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o'reilly. >> she would come on shows like mine and i have the audio, i played it and sang rogers praises and all of a sudden, roger is a no good dirt bag and she's going to nbc. >> yeah. that i don't know. look, i do think megyn's accusations were what took rogers down. they were going to settle. when megyn kelly got involved, that was the end of roger ailes. >> o'reilly. >> good man. [applause] >> what is the moment when you find out the guy that literally the entire network was built on is not coming back to work? what happened there for you?
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>> for me personally -- >> you filled in for him? >> for the better part of four years. i probably did 2 or 300 o'reilly factors. i spent a lot of time with that crew, with his staff. when he took time off to his credit, he left. he went and, you know, he had a very capable staff and so i spent a lot of time with that crew. it was a shock to a lot of us that that went down. 12:05 in jeans and polo shirt and murdoch's secretary says mr. murdoch wants to see you now. i put on a suit and tie, i ran up to the office and he sat down and said, look, here is the deal, we have to -- our attorneys have said that we are going to have to part ways with bill o'reilly and we have an issue at 8:00 o'clock at night.
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i want you to know, murdoch, i want you to know you will stay at 5:00 o'clock, i really, really need to maintain the audience into prime time. i want you there. >> okay, thank you very much. very positive. i'm going to do the 5:00 o'clock show still. i'm not show if i'm on the five anymore but originally 8:00 o'clock but they put the five at 9:00 and so there's a press release that comes out two hours later, eric bolling to 5:00 o'clock hour and i'm looking for my name at the five, juan williams, jesse watters. he found a home. they are doing great. rachel maddow has new wind in her sail, somehow being
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antitrump has given her a pretty strong audience. they have a tall order going up against rachel but they are doing great. they are hitting fox, it's not going to be the fox that we used to be, but our -- we just ran her numbers. >> i just looked at these two. >> june of this year versus last year at 5:00 o'clock, we are up 19%. up 19%. [applause] >> i think the whole network is actually up. >> i looked at monday's numbers and every one of your shows lit. cavuto to sean. it just kept getting bigger as the night wore off. [applause] >> the tucker addition. do you like that? [cheers and applause] i can't wait to talk with him about this but -- because i can't imagine and i'm wondering
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what all of you thought, who in the hell is going to take bill o'reilly's chair and he gets the call, did everybody say, yes, or, i don't know -- >> you mean inside fox? everybody thought they were going to get it. >> that too. did you think that? >> you saw tucker doing something very unique at 7:00 o'clock. i had never seen that before. he was bringing liberals on, people would tweet something, college professor somewhere, there's ablock of 7:00 o'clock show. that's brilliant and aggressive. tucker was named to the 7:00 o'clock. he comes on the five to do the thing. tucker, why did the liberals come back on the show? you destroy them. i'm going to keep doing it till they stop. they haven't stopped. it's amazing how they all think
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they are going to take tucker down. everyone thinks they are going to do that. any sports fans, it's like going into the other team's stadium, the other team's refs, they're on call, it's insane. you have no shot. you have your own stage, own scripts, cameras, lighting, you could play a lot of games. tucker is wildly talented added anyway. but it's fun to watch. it's fun to watch. when he got the -- here is one of the back door secrets that no one knows. the fife was -- five was going to go to the 8:00 o'clock. one of -- probably bill shine at the time, i think he was the one who said, you can't do this at 8:00. the flag hole of every cable network. so tucker was doing well and probably was thought about,
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floated the idea of sean, the other thing about the 8:00 o'clock and 9:00 o'clock hour is they have to be live. two live hours because it's breaking news throughout the night, they want them live. sean is very close friend of mine. sean is hard-core opinion, you can pretty much take that at 6:00 o'clock or 7:00 o'clock and last until 10:00 and so sean is i'm not going to come in and stay until 9:00, i'm going to tape at 6:00. >> he also came under attack, he decided to strategically tackle it differently. he's been pretty -- he took a little time off. everybody thought, we know what happened when bill o'reilly took time off. sean came back and he weathered and the numbers -- [applause] >> did anyone happen to see the specialist today at
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5:00 o'clock? anyone? hand up. all right. so on the way, kyle, my assistant calls me and says there's this young kid, he's like 17 year's old. >> adorable. >> he's holding a post congratulations eric with the book on it. why don't you say hi to the kid on the way to the studio, i said yeah, absolutely. i take it one step further and i go out and meet the kid and kyle comes out, shake his hand, eric, i read the swamp, i love it, he's holding his poster. a poster with marker, congratulations. i go, do me a favor, will you standby that window by that show if you have time. i will put you on tv tonight. he beamed. just then hannity walks in. .. ..
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he said are glad you're here. also rachel was very complimentary of roger ailes. he was not a bad guy. he had issues, yes. but in life he gave a law divinity -- a lot of money and the vast majority everything i know for a fact is very good in and though the you heard this that it is over it is just a matter of time to say writers out there is a new direction where is fox going? are you concerned? is it the same
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product we're all accustomed to watching? i don't know of there is that editorial direction change something bad happens on the second-floor. because i have never ever been told to tone it down. actually i am more conservative bent more vocal than i ever was. you will hear and read or to highlight this today. that never happened and doesn't happen. >> you don't work that cnn?.
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think with cnn this weekend. and russian said he really feels there is a tide turning. with that momentum shift. >> so he copied my talking points?. >> that is why trumpery treated my book by the way. [laughter] -- re-tweeted my book but now there is a party that is offering nothing. russia trump and russia truck ban the american people have had it it is so
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transparent it is not even funny anymore. [cheers and applause] i think that is what the story did to expose that collusion or obstruction of justice. my monologue today it is strange when obama and mitt romney was that the debate is to say -- the '80s what their policy back surely they must have changed his mind over the last four years. and with those sound bites. nobody would think they would have to meddle in those elections.
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why is russia such a big story? when they just try to nail trumpeted leaving care about the facts anymore but he is fighting back. but with those sporting events. you know, that you lost them. >> msnbc of east is honest about what they are. >> cnn distressed about antitrust. and then pick apart everything that he does.
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and that seems to work but msnbc for anybody on the right or anti-trump has now hired nicole wallace that are three republicans but not conservatives. >> but there still figuring out where they are. >> every now again chris matthews falls and hits his head to say something that is surprising. do you know, what i mean? just want to stay in the middle of the month. >> like trumpet became president tonight when he did something.
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>> we need to watch the time. >> let me get psycho questions from the audience. >> do you miss them?. >> i missed the five. so taken aback six years when roger ailes said i am leaving the of 5:00 to go do my thing at the end of december this was july. so roger ailes has a new issue. and with his to say i want
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not going anywhere. this is a true story but once in awhile favoring some stuff out right in the middle of the studio. and then there are the cheers from the studio audience. from his old table that would be the set for the summer. but it never went away. and then say duplicated the exact same thing. >> bob would away for a while.
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>> and then came back. >> if you talk about the wave day put that together it was like that. so if you extract somebody like that don't forget. >> the go to different elections or primaries if you remove them from the family there is a voice so when he came back i will be august i think he was two years. because we had some very
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hefty political storms. and joking and playground. >> so that toad had not moved on?. >>. >> she's not with the network getting more?. >> if there was a complete they let them go. >> federal think i knew that >> the key basically said something?. >> [laughter] i don't care how this stuff i am. >> explain exactly what
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happened. about so bad about the immigration status he said he tried to sensationalize everything. everything? and he got so mad. if you were my friend i would punch you in the mouth. what ever. geraldo. is the best example of a liberal with a very difficult time being committed. i see him struggle that way because he likes him. >> we come from opposite
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the light to come on. they know he is watching it is very funny. and not saying that disparagingly but he is watching right now. [laughter] i'm sorry mr. president. if i write a book can also tweet?. >> if you are running for the senate in 2020 for new jersey?. >> yes and no. this started about a month ago about the new show what
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is going non the relationship with trump and what will you do later? oka great and ended that right there then a reporter at "politico" because fox said know they have a tendency to rip that up. the puerto rico department watches out for us but somehow they got by so let's talk about this show we did bill whole interview on the senate run but what i said was to run for elected office and dat number 2422.
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almost that conservative establishment types of republican. to get there on the backs of conservatives. [applause] then day dive right into the swamp and you cannot get them out. >> it is it hard to figure out. >> so technically the selfie of new jersey. i would not replace -- mind replacing a booker with eric bolling. [applause]
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>> i cannot imagine a republican and when the new jersey. >> did you use to get idea they were excited about cruz christie? but look at the president. >> that is to a close adviser of the president from like getting an invite to the teapartier on the white house lawn. so if you go all the way back chris christie was well regarded as the next republican president but then he turned it down is said to get more money for sandy relief. but bridge eight is so bad. when you run for president they dissect you there is a
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lot of things he is lucky to be where he is right now. >> he said i love the view are the albatross. >> by the way that does not help that chris christie prosecuted jared. >> that makes for awkward dinner conversation. >> when will they start to investigate real obstructionist?. >> like loretta lynch? [applause] i don't know if they ever will. we have special counsel who
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hires more donors to work in his office but i don't know. >> it all mean to make you the president's spokesman the you seem to know him well so busy being just heard we lose i will fire them all? or he says if i do that it will make this look worse?. >> this led the gay positive for trump and everything about this. one person in one shred of
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evidence of course it would. and then at the end it is the all clear and all positive. >> we all knew there were not tapes. >> i hope there are tapes. we go. and then to say no tapes. was steady from real? he is so good to mess with people. [laughter] he really is. the fbi director can figure out?. >> what is this doing? i
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>> cnn is going to redound to wolf pulitzer. and then they have the simulator. and then that is that the press briefing room. it is a riot. >> what a classy way to slap them around when he said india's press briefings are for nobody's. he didn't say it that way but. >> what is happening did you know, those white house
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pulling your time. [applause] >> how do the viewers know if it is live or recorded?. >> you can't. sometimes he does is show from home and you cannot tell. here is how you know, . if every single guest is on remote he is taping from all. [laughter] >> we're actually a hologram right now. >> gear is another one i am a college student i am wondering if you could
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explain we see the difference with the trading this want been replacing them with a billionaire businessman?. >> there is a ringer in the house. >> so a very common question is will he help to drain the swamp? and i say no it is not but as the investor in the company? for the u.s. some u.s. been around for a long time? tromp abroad in the most successful people. rex tillerson was the ceo of exxon with $400 million.
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i now want hillary clinton i want rex tillerson. we have the best of the best. solo trumpet brings in these people to make all these deals bed country stars to turnaround almost every indicator of books great they will never tell you this but not with cnn or mainstream media. but it is with that matters. now it is time to really drain the swamp.
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for those small patrollers -- swamped dwellers on either side the government that gets bigger and bigger you cannot make your department better cheaper stronger. [applause] >> would you rather have a billionaire oil executive or senators?. >> is of that amazing? so we find out the socialists against income inequality was everyone to get a bigger piece of the pie you are the
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reason why the book was written. telling us how we should live and then under federal investigation for corruption. >> in so what was your major influence along the way?. >> i had the most amazing parents in the world. they work so hard to put clothes on our backs and mail is wanted to see me do better.
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dare try to walk into a college campus? and i have an 18 year-old and will be 19 next month. the state is liberal the school is liberal city joy is the fraternity in says look at the pitcher. on election day. then i walk around i the view. i am one of the only conservatives around. and then another 20 than i
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am a conservative. to save my son held up a trump signed and got no push back all. also the president of ecology mailed me. with faculty is very liberal bias may conservative. >> do you know, ?. >> i know but i just think of rutgers. and to cancel that commencement speech. but i just don't know when you say that part of that
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when you are involved in the speaking gig your ass to go to those. there is literally no time to do that. but the show is horrific with that format because that concept and then bring in those people love unique perspectives. >> and then they say, was with the show will be. into rotating guest every single day.
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and then we launched the show with one week. so we will see if we can do this. so when day camera comes up of the five appeals like coming and talk to us at dinner. and then hate to dave the two specialists but that did not feel right to me and i said to the executive producer what you mean? we ran have -- you had a seat at the table.
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so give me one day. would you want to do? see what happened today? what do you think of that? we have different political views but but that is the event the of the day and then we go we have to specialists. and then we had to make the show about us. said of those to specialist but do know what happened we went from here to here to
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hear we're seven weeks in that takes time the we're on the right track. [applause] having gotten to know you the last couple of years but does my harwell to know that when they tune in posting as a genuinely decent human being and kind. >> i can only help everybody feels that way. >> eric bolling ladies and gentlemen,. [applause]
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i ever spoke to speaker ryan that was in my district because many of those jobs left and that said i grew up in a very blue-collar family and how communities like ours adapt to the changing economy is important for my staff to understand the roots of my district to get a flavor of the people that they represent progress after that i am reading a book that is about the post
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for while it was deployed there is a book that he recommended that i read to help construct my world view another book he emphasized was theodore racks and recommended other books i have read but i hope to get through the entire reading as one of the largest read said his recommendations. >>. >> i spend a lot more money on books than i ever made. and then with those new
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