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recorded. what happened what you think at the time?. >> is of little strange how that works but three days earlier i site it was before twitter and facebook but i still have the of side the person that runs of for me since me the fan mail they think i am interested in and a friend from high school and says seniors used to pretend to me me up and one i knew pretty well that wrote it's been 20 years but some of the other wrestlers are catching up and we are proud of you hope everything is going well pope that we read into again and see you soon.

then three days later sunday with a shaved head and muscular just like my friend from high school stars running towards me and i think there is lots of video that you don't need to go watch it doesn't get better but i am smiling because i am thinking what are that odds three days later? that i don't even have time to sing again before i am on the ground and that is the way we used to joke and wrestle in high school. then i realized how serious this was his idea on the ground and scared his knee is a my back i have the cuffs on me then my mind immediately chefs from what i have seen in the media or misunderstandings with police officers and how that can end tragically the first

words out of timeouts time complying 100 percent even though he never said officer or n.y.p.d. or your and your rest he had his knee in my back and putting handcuffs on me a have a feeling in the middle of midtown he would not be brazen enough to mug me in front of this many people i assumed he was a place of lesser i said to have made a mistake. i have my credential please take that. that is evidence i am not involved in he said we will see then eventually the fifth officer on the scene said they made a mistake but it is pretty shocking because i don't know what blood have happened if i really thought he was coming and would dangerous intentions i would have

defended myself and if i had done that the results would have been worse. i would have a lot worse than the bruins bbb-plus it into the cop car. were with my brother or family was there? if i had a friend there or somebody attacks me they will attack him. so i think how lucky i am i was there by myself. >> host: some would approach this with rage. why did you. >> guest: i tried to be called and think of the best solution sometimes that works well for me being an

athlete with a way that i was raised that as of thing happen to me so what if this happened to me? and immediately i thought what would happen if it happened to my wife for brother? they did not have the same voice that i do so that did suffer a little bit of rage because i can take is but a lot of people can or shouldn't so what made me think i need to act so that is what i decided that i will find a way if there was not a video it is my word against five police officers before they knew were there

was a video there were excess -- but i was not in handcuffs they were investigating excessive force so there should be no reason for them not to believe that but they were flat out watching. so having the video made it so that i was corroborated with the truth. >> host: how is your book bring us together?. >> with religious barriers it is an equal playing field. and with the super bowl so to have a respect for each other and i may not agree with a lot of people with something that might be political or cultural

religious because they know how much hard work and how they sacrificed so there is always that bond with sports and i see that with my kids already. they can be shy and not know somebody but then they play and immediately have a bond and sports in general for me it was tennis but that creates that friendship and partnership that they get that camaraderie of working together you learn honor so that can teach you a lot about life. >> host: the number one u.s. ranked tennis player

what is the athletes responsibility to the community?. >> i only borrow that title for a little while but, i have said this is to be true to yourself it would shine through to be disingenuous like andre agassi being a showman. is yours have to be yourself that is why i talk about in the book of something does push you then it is a passion then yes speak out because you have a voice in understand what that means. but if you don't have that passion that makes you feel like you want to speak out you shouldn't feel the need

touse speak out of your and educated on the cause of it doesn't mean anything to you. and should feel empowered to do that and they should have more of a voice than most people do. and with 140 characters to have the effect on a lot of people. >> what about the williams sisters that journey has been so hard. >> it takes awhile to catch up and not listening to the women we should be with billie jean king and in 1973 and her battle and i learned

more about is speaking to her with this book and that was a big step forward in general the people don't want to give credit that billie jean king made a huge difference so we should all pay her a debt of gratitude. and the shabby paid the same amount in society needs to catch up to equality and i credit the people that are fighting for that and hopefully females are catching up in may should be catching up even quicker. but it may take a little while to recognize their greatness. >> host: so even with serena or reassure a polka

widish to make more so much more than serena?. >> that is a good question. asked nike. that is something that has always frustrated me serena is above best athletes of our generation of our time without qualifiers female or black or woman she is a strong powerful role model is my eight daughters grow up to the electorate do think she should be a highest-paid but she is not that is something madison avenue decides i wish i could pull the strings. >> host: but what do you think madison avenue is

thinking?. >> guest: [laughter] maria sharapova she has the look i guess they're looking for. she is marketable and has sold a lot of cars, watches, clothes, shoes whenever she endorses. and i don't want to see like i.m. be grudging her because she deserves everything that she gets but i do think serena deserves even more than she gets. >> host: why are there so few african-american tennis players as a percentage?. >> it is still the stigma

sometimes not the coolest sport to play as a kid. that did not give me a lot of street cried and i would show up at school with my tennis racket. [laughter] but is there are females another is a ton of success right now a kid picks up the basketball in seas of role model right now does not see a ton of them on tv but with

venus and serena having success this late in their career but if you don't have those models people don't want to be like them. and then to see that trickle-down. >> doesn't bother you when people leave the u.s. and african american tennis player instead of tennis player if you think about it they don't do that but only if your african-american they give you that title. didn't bother you of the two were -- tour?. >> i thought of as a challenge i want to be good enough they just talk about

mike tennyson that is what i cut my hair i was the crazy kid with dreadlocks and pretty abnormal in the tennis world but wanted them to talk about my tennis. the first african-american since arthur ashe i just wanted to have the results the he is the first. is a challenge for me to say they don't have to qualify our ally of doing i dismayed that my own personal goal. >> what does it take to be number one in the world? i don't have that experience but that was my best year

ever 2006 on the court when i won five titles. but that was two years after my father passed away and thinking about coming to play tennis at all seemed like a monumental task then two years later that perspective how happy i was just to play is still to a scheduling and great moments that had to come into play even before erotic who was going into the hall of fame he was happy to get it he was also chomping to get that title back but it was a tremendous honor especially

looking at the people on the list thinking of michael chang who always had such strong american players. >> you also had a ranking of number four in the world set to hit number one what is that difference?. >> it is bigger than it seems. it is like in golf to get from 18 to the scratch handicap is easier from scratch to a 12 to get from 10 or 50 in the world it is tougher top five is darn near impossible for me it was but some guy named roger kept hogging all the titles

but the amount it took for me to be consistent made me more impressed for how much consistency because you cannot have a bad couple of months that has to be resolved after results after result. but you have a target on your back and on dray odyssey said that when i was first coming up because everybody has nothing to lose with no fear they want to me you so that is the way everybody felt playing roger that year. to go out there in match their intensity every single day it was very very difficult that is why they get anything done tour --

tour dave fallback a little bit because they say they are just as excited and for roger to sustain that is not an easy task. >> host: 2011 son people would say you had a ball or a forehand 125 miles per hour how is that possible? most people cannot serve 125 miles per hour even today everybody is blown away debut at et your wheaties? [laughter] >> i remember that because

they always get the thrill all my friends were there so ahead tens of adrenaline dislike of a batter sitting on the f3 indo pitch i had a feeling and he served exactly where i was looking into be 3 feet from him so that was pretty exciting that is definitely one of the most memorable how excited i was to be in new york and bin people ask if i miss playing tennis i don't miss that hard work but that

feeling at the end of the match is something will always have. >> why you never won a major?. >> not only will he win a major but many you had a phenomenal career winding can never won the major?. >> and 2005 that was a storybook coming back from shingles and breaking my neck and playing andre agassi but even if i had gotten there i don't want to say no chance and then i had

a chance like 2006 beating and erotic -- andy roddick and then i got to the u.s. open and i never look that far in advance and i just don't want to play roger and then with the quarter finals please some have roger in my quarter finals. and with that tournament i honestly felt i thought i could win. but i thought that if i was at my best he was on a different level not as good

as i thought i was but he went on to win that tournament pretty easily. and many started to bother me a never felt quite the same as mine he started to bother me. >> impressive by any standard and in 2013 you retire your need -- me is acting up now serving close at 150 what is it like to take me in the mind of james flake -- james blake to have close 150-mile an hour it is

less than half the second to hit it. it is the bin quicker than 95 miles per hour fastball add you have to decide how to hit that forehand or bad hand -- becky and and give the court and it does seem impossible i remember "usa today" did an article headed a baseball and returning the server the too difficult with a breakdown and then decide is it sliding or where do i need to put my racket? to a need to get it down? all the calculations go through the head.

the by the end of five sets you are mentally tired. >> you have a person standing across to me looks like as a giant he claims he is 6-foot 10 inches a lot of people say he is even taller what does this look like? is in a wink or a flash. >> guest: i had to see times of him and all you do is react you have no time to think and it is so frustrating you don't get to play tennis sometimes and then there are times and

then you play well paid and even had a chance to swing. a lot of people said there has to be a regulation but it always goes in in cycles and people figure out how to return those service. i was relatively tall when i started i was one of those short guys but now there are bigger and faster and stronger. >> so tell me about this incredible wave you have dealt with with such a hard challenge of diversity from

the age of 13. >> i was telling you live for i thought it was normal and did not know any different. for those who don't know any different to practice 18 hours a day was normal i knew nobody in his goal was doing it but this is why i don't fit it because every high school kid feels little kid did and that was my reason. i've brought my little bag fortune class i did not think about until much later and realized everybody else did not have to go through that to be excited to get a break a few hours a day. but from a young age gave me

perspective going to the shriners hospital for crippled children that i could walk in and out where those never thought about playing a sport. a? we appreciated the ability to do that some six hours off a day i felt lucky to play tennis and do what i could. kids take so much for granted and that some point they learn life lessons to appreciate what they have and i learned that earlier and it taught me a lot about appreciating all the things i do have. >> you were leaving harvard your sophomore year do you regret?. >> not at all. two years there was amazing

i probably learned more just growing up but i just don't think i was ready at 17 to go to college i still needed to grow up and then i put on 10 pounds i was not going to survive a year of the court at that weight. it was a ton of fun by freshman year and the bags on the road trips and sleeping on the floor for the road trips all the stuff of fresh man is supposed to do. >> you took a lot of risk that time because there's no guarantee of success. it is the individual but there are thousands of and did -- individuals that tried to be one of the

hundred 20 top players in the world that was a huge decision. why?. >> wetback for my sophomore year that i would put tennis as a priority so i backed off of my academics i took three glasses just to put a little more focus of my tennis to see how wide do and how successful i think i can be vital have it in me i will not look back that i can go to summer school was either going to years or four years so that year i had a lot of success the decision was made christmas break by played them minor league level in orlando and i want these are guys to try

to play for a living and trying to make it they had been on tour over years brother was there so to win that on christmas break studying for finals without a have a chance. and it was a risk by parents were not thrilled my dad was definitely unhappy of first the then he realized i will commit to doing this then he supported me 100 percent and agent cannot do any negotiating underpart so to be completely out of that tennis world growing up if i was not involved in the circuit i did not know that meant i would get a contract

or here is a million dollars to buy yourself a stupid car and i had no idea so i took of big risk not even knowing if i would have an income in the beginning but i did get more than three ) not a million dollars but to get me started in my travels going to take the risk and it paid off. i knew if i did not make my goal was to make enough to afford to go back with the rates of education and don't even know if i could afford it now. but that was by a goal but i wanted to go back to finish my degree. >> host: 2002 against andre agassi and the same match later but the tops bin

and a forehand of nidal and more than anybody on the tour how do you beat him? he is one of the best players at the time. >> akio just won the french open that is the era was off so i didn't get to see his ascent from up close but i was on the sidelines watching this guy come up winning the french open the first time playing and i went out to play him the first ball i hit in warm-up he rifled that and i thought this will be a long day that i felt like i had nothing to lose and had a backhand but i still felt for some reason

he was a little tentative because he had not seen me this whole time he was feeling the amount it took my vantage to be aggressive so for some reason i was more called i one that lost he always shows so much emotion and gets so excited i remember feeling very called. i won the first set i can turn that around it seemed to me he got a little deflating like i was dictating the play i just kept telling myself 1.at a time i still remember thinking this will be so tough. number two in the world no way he will let me get to the finish line but the more

i put 1 foot in front of the other i could not believe how quickly that happened because in my head i did not think at all about this 1.or that one and i was shocked when he missed the last ball and i beat him. >> host: andre agassi is known as one of the best returners in the game. what happens during this match he wins eight majors plays you at this time and do shot everybody. >> that was early the first time made it to the semifinals and definitely expected to lose everybody assumed i would not have much of a chance and another

time going for broke and that there is no way this will continue at some point you will drop he will raise his level and another time it happened so fast that things were going quickly we both play quickly in between points. it was a short match for duration but i was hitting winner after winner i was trying to do the math that there is no way he will lose this provide have to be aggressive but everything i was hitting was just out of his reach and just goodie enough and i was shocked at the end that was the one tournament my coach was not at he told me at the beginning i will be missing best and i remember thinking

how amazing it was without my coach and it is a running joke i am better off without him but clearly that is a joke he was so proud i cannot believe i got the win. i remember his famous matches as a kid and i could turn his respect because later he said he did not lose it. i won it i was glad he did not make an excuse and i give him a ton of credit for that to have enough confidence. >> county times a week you play now?. >> less than one it isn't often. >> host: who could you even play with or get exercise or a workout? is there any enjoyment?.

>> the enjoyment living in san diego when he was a junior making the transition i hit with him for about 20 minutes somebody that i could help if they have a question or what i went through at their age to be that is fun so they're doing all the hard work and i can just relax going out to hit that i have two daughters to get time away from the kids we go golf. [laughter] or she wants to go surfing to get away from the tennis courts but i play about nine exhibitions per your saliva

hit a few times so i don't embarrass myself before those people still don't believe me by a not very good at all. when i retired i took a realtime off about three months i felt that i worked so hard for 30 years to make a break a did a look at the rackets for a while the first time i hit we have a junior player at the club he is beating kids can you come now to beat up on the kid? he is getting cocky per car picked up the racket and i barely barely beat him and i apologized to by a coach i just made is attitude worse. i am merely trying this is just how bad i am. a 16 year-old and i was

having trouble for cry practiced a little bit so now we will play again and it came back that i remembered how to play that was a lot of fun but i am not very good. >> host: last question before the audience. when you were growing up in fairfield your friend to go very different path he picked up the microphone so could you share his name with us? when will he do a song about you?. >> it is a funny story i got to be pretty good friends with john maher. his younger brother is my

age and they live to close to get bused both parents or teachers so they wanted their kids on the bus to get to school so they drop them off at your house before hand and take the best of your kids will pick them up after school soccer elementary and then through high-school they rode the bus with me. he was the one that was left out because he was the middle child that arouse seventh or eighth grade he picked up a guitar and started to play he jokes

that was down in my basement where we would hang out every single day after school i would have a of a racket in my hand we were both assessed -- obsessed and a few years later he made a career he has watched me a wimbledon i watched him at madison square garden it was crazy we ran in my basement doing what we love and then get paid i still wrote that -- remember that moment we lost touch a little bit when i went to college but we were playing the davis cup for the first time with myself and andy roddick arguments over what music we would listen to with the locker room.

whether rap or older music but jim was on the cutting edge so he put in a seedy and i said this is good who was it he said that is john major and i said that is weird. can i see the cover? so i called him pretty soon after that and said i could not believe it to see how successful he said i did the same thing a couple months ago when i was on the cover of "the new york times" and said i am just reading the paper to do my thing and they see a picture of view it is amazing so what has

been pretty crazy and a fun ride he was so nice to me with my charity event in virginia i asked him to perform before i even ask a question he said tell me when and where it is a supporter of me and my foundation. >> what effect did give some of on the sport of tennis?. >> she was an athlete but

four per to be the precursor even through arthur ashe by gibson does not always get as much credit for breaking the color barrier especially with the gender bias i think billy jean said you could not have a credit card without being cosigned by their husband she was winning wimbledon before that subdues she paid were tremendous and i don't know if she gets enough credit she won wimbledon when nobody wanted her there. said to face those odds it is one thing but to have a whole lot to run against you i cannot imagine the feeling then to turn that rage into success so few people play

well angry and i don't know how she could do that but for her to do that to open doors for herself and myself and arthur ashe in the williams sisters not exaggeration but without her i don't know of the williams sisters would be but we know them today. >> when i watched you play play, not just your tennis but there is a quality of you that was different from most tennis players and you could feel that just as a human being that i picked up on but i want to rest the personal question. [laughter]

deerfield tennis helped you evolves or that it distracted you from who you wanted to be? or were you lost when you got down on yourself? did it affect the sense of who you were in relation to other ben or the world and now you're not playing tennis are you comfortable with who you are now and your accomplishments or looking for something else from that wonderful high? you got in a real way. >> i will do my best but first of golfing q i appreciate the compliment that i was a little

different and may have felt different at times with the path that i chose going to public schools and being on the tennis team those that are focused their whole lives on tennis and those losses did affect me early on i had a tough time i was losing way more than i ever did in college i want a lot in the professional you lose a lot that is a big jump for any player. early on a lot of young players put part all of their self worth and the number next to their name to say that is my value and and i was 21 years old even

though i gained some perspective vice still think i fell prey to that trap and then as i got older i realized one of the absolute best things i was injured was be taking the time to appreciate friends and family. the tennis tour is never ending with a couple weeks off i had a lot of friends but i did not know their day to day i would check-in but when i was home i knew somebody at work was a jerk or the copy machine was broken so i learned their life was excited to go row

for a beer i realized i had friends that were taking me out and getting me to smile it didn't matter of by one another tennis match that made a huge difference in my life than the rest of my career i am still extremely competitive which is pretty much everything that i do that is a whole other story but i really do want to win but it is much shorter because i haven't in the back of my mind there is enough people that care about me if i forget how to get the ball and have a group to be around and be close and i care about them. that is part of the reason why i may have seemed different because a lot of tennis players don't have that support there is people dave notre tennis and --

they know through tennis and that is it. some of my friends joked they did not even know how to follow in the rankings they did not know what tournament but i was sad and i loved that size stopped putting myself were then by ranking and then when i retired i don't have that high with 20,000 people screaming line name and by transition was so much easier because i had one daughter with another on the way by a wife was so good but i was traveling with our first daughter she said here you go. [laughter] i was much more involved a day after retired and ever

since then and it makes me more tired at the end of the day than the six hours of the tennis court and fills me so much more than any tournament is is easy of the transition that i could imagine an the other days doing what i can do to fill my days it is wonderful and great to figure out what i like and what i enjoy but the kids make it so easy for that transition by a much happier watch them play or run around the backyard. i don't worry as much anymore. >> how many more majors for

roger order serena?. >> i would say water to with serena. >> first why?. >> the key is a favorite for wimbledon this year than find a way to win one more of whether the u.s. open and/or wimbledon again next year. if anybody will be to father time he will he is that good but 35 and about to me 36 eventually he will lose half a step toward injury will take longer i think it is just the numbers. but serena, as many as she wants. [laughter] did is crazy to think of

because i think a lot of people have counted her route i cannot speak from experience to have a baby and combat camby successful i know others have done it a wouldn't put it past her but similarly father time i believe she is 35 to think she could still be playing at 38. she is the greatest but that is pushing it physically i have played with her anything we were out there in los angeles. >> how does she play on the court?. >> she is the most competitive person i have ever known including michael jordan for grotius it is --

she is exactly the same was the middle of summer i was trying to work out three our five space going to do extra running drills anything you do i will do. i will do everything you'd do she did not complain if i was sitting before hand hard she implanted to do everything and did not want to lose and i was so impressed. it is such an amazing accomplishment she is the toughest mentally and the best physically that is the combination that made her the greatest.

>> that is a good segue because in your opinion what makes us perform at our best for helps us to win? you spoke you were prepared to lose so do feel there's something if we have nothing to lose that is when we perform our best?. >> yes. i did not prepared to lose. [laughter] i knew was a possibility. >> you have to accept you could lose somebody is going home unhappy if you think about that after a start 64

oregon the first day so we have to realize the the idea of nothing to lose is definitely a mental trick to play and yourself haven't spoken to 72 roger but they always do without pressure they found a way to remain hungry because to be number four or top-10 of what are pushing so you have the pressure so i would trick myself i want to prove to myself i can do what are that i belong / o 1/2 to force myself with that attitude because when you protect something that is a

curse you will play to a tentative for for the athlete per talk about your reaction you cannot play that tentative that second-guess yourself to not be confident and that is part of the reason a lot of athletes get the unfair treatment to be called arrogant and you have to feel you will win this point and get the game-winning shot because if you keep playing not to lose you will lose. >> what about martina navratilova?. >> i played team tennis with

her a long time ago. >> she won 58 majors, mixed doubles and singles. one of the greatest next to serena. >> she is very special as well. to see her now i know how old she is or get that wrong but whatever age she is she still plays and plays with a passion. . .