the racist search volume for trump. this, of course, does not mean that everybody who supports trump is racist but it does mean that -- that some of his supporters were and it did drive some of the progress in the -- in the primary. >> and you're watching book tv on c-span2. we are in las vegas. that's the freedom fest convention, gathering of libertarians and one of them is dinesh dsouza, exposing the lie of the left. you could easily be forgiven for thinking you're given the 2016 platform of the democratic party. >> the nazis issued on official platform, it had, i believe, 25

points to it and if you go down the list you basically realize that they want minimum wage, they want to have a national health care system. as you read down, you begin to realize, wait a minute, this runs against everything i've been taught. we've been taught, this has been thought that fascism is on the right. when you read the nazi platform, you realize this is collectivism, this bares socialism and not the ingredient of obama but elizabeth warren and bernie sanders, that wing of the party. >> socialism, marxism. how close are the political philosophers? >> socialism refers to the

workers owning the means of production. later communism talks about the state owning the means of production. fascism is very similar, fascism simply means that the state while not owning the means of production directs them, so state directed capitalism, that's fascism. modern progressiveism is more like fascism and socialism because think about it, does it pay the doctors directly, no, there are private companies that do that but the government controls them, so modern progressivism being state directed is closer to fascism than it is to socialism. >> you spend quite a bit of time with mussolini. >> if you read the word fascism

never appears in the entire book. hitler called himself a national socialism. he we wanted to marry nationalism with socialism. key difference is that hitler was a racist, he was antisemite and he made antisymmetry and bigotry part of socialism. mussolini came to power in 1920's. he's the last of the cesars, you're looking for fascism at the beginning of point of origin, you to look at mussolini. >> and you're saying that fascism is a left-wing political cause? >> fascism was recognized to be left wick not only by the fascists but by the antifascists and this is all at the time. later there was the revisionism that came in which progressive

writers and historians redefined fascism and mussolini was the most famous marxist in italy. his fascism grew out of socialism. the prophesies are not coming through, why and out of that exploration, fascism grew out of marxism. this is actually undisputed history. dozens of official fascists in germany, in italy, in spain, in england, all of them came from the left. they consider from the labor party in england, the socialist party in france, the communist party, one of mussolini's closest advisers was party of the communist party. after the war he went back to being a communist. this is the actual history that

i excavating in the book. today we have antifascism. they look like the black shirts of mussolini. they overturn cars, they block speakers from speaking. how do you fight fascism while doing fascism stuff? >> why do you think that since world war ii as you say we have considered fascism nazi on the right? >> the fascism in the 30's was very much in bed with the left and in fact, when -- here is a small tip, when fdr came to power, he did not admire hitler but revered mussolini. fdr felt that mussolini was ahead of him. fdr would dispatch allegations

to italy to bring it here. all of this is the actual history of our country. after world war ii, the gas chambers, auschwitz. they became associated with the holocaust and progressives were coming to dominate the academy, whoa, this is bad fuse, -- news. if people associate the left with fascism, we are through. you need to be dominant if academia and in the media, in other words, you have to be able to pull off a big lie and the big lie of fascist that was promulgated by hitler. people can catch a small lie because they can compare it to their experience, but if you give them a big lie it's really hard to get your head around it. it's so big that you don't know where to attack it. it encompasses a lot of smaller

lies, part of my expose is that one of the biggest lie that is we are living with now, fascist lig buy -- big lie where it's astrib -- attributed to be on the right but it's in the left. people take things they do and blame them on other people. jews are trying to take over and make everybody like them. that's what the nazis did. when they took over they enforced the cultural conformity across germany. hitler was taking his own destructive power-hungry ideas and trying to poise them on a jews. the left is blaming the right for patterns of behavior that it itself invented and indulgences.

>> you have a chapter on soros? >> soros claims to be the great antifascist. he spuns a lot of the antifascist parties. and what i do is i say, okay, well here is -- soros will talk about the fact that he's inspired by libertarianism, by carl and the open society, in reality as you look at the soros' past, secret history, if you will, you realize that soros along with mentor of his was the kind of collection boy for hitler. this seems harsh to say but it is true. it was discussed but steve in an interview with soros in which kroft. >> you would go around confiscating property of the jews and how can you feel good about that and sorryos goes, i don't feel bad about that at all, he goes, let's remember that if i didn't do it, somebody

would do it, right. now this gets me thinking because i remember a theme. mengele escaped and went to argentina and one of the sons confronted him down and said, how could you do the things that you did in auschwitz. i simply saw the opportunity to make them into research specimens, don't blame me because the bad stuff would have gone anyway. here is an eerie parallel what i call the mengele. i don't blame anybody who did at age 15, but mature soros reflecting on the past, there's lots of dark secrets there.

>> tell me if i'm wrong in the reading of this, do you connect mengele to planned parenthood? >> i connect them in this way that the collectivist on the left have always had a problem and that is what do we do with disposable people, we at the top are going to run society but there are some disposable people we need to get rid of. now, remember that the nazis started not with gas chambers, they started with sterilization. where did they get those ideas? they got them directly from the left. the american left because the american left was in the forefront of the movement. margaret was inspiration for early nazis and in 1933 the nazis imposed four sterilization, remember they all supported not voluntary but mandatory sterilization. the nazis moved on from that.

next idea was euthanation. american progressives were say if sterilization doesn't work, euthanation. we need gas chambers. he literally advocated gas chambers and the nazis got it from him. mengele when he went to argentina was in hiding, he was sheltered by neo nazis there. listen, if you want to support yourself, you need to have a profession. guess what was mengele's profession? he set up a shop as abortionist. there's actually deep connection between the same type of philosophy and the nazi sterilization program on the other. >> this is the big lie, exposing the nazi roots of the american

left thank you for being on book tv. >> my pleasure. >> here is a look of upcoming book fairs and festivals in the country. we are live from the nation's capital for national book festival with author presentations and viewer call-in segments. former secretary of state. stat. for more information about upcoming book fairs and festivals and to watch previous festival coverage click the book fairs tab on our website, booktv.org.

>> vice president and senior director of publicity at the capital press. what do you have coming out in the fall of 2017? >> we have a really big book, really big, 800 page, stand -- istanbul. the many incarnations that the city has had. amazing research. multiple trips, in fact. we think that it is going to tell people about a country that's very much in the news today because of the coupe. we have island of the fox, lives in the rockies of canada, it was about when peter the great

decided to send ships from siberia to what is known as alaska. a trip to do photography work, chaos and ship wreck on deserted island that had foxes on it. peter the great. >> the why do you come to new york every year for bookexpo america. >> multiple reasons, it's a great to see book sellers and find out which authors would like to do events. it's wondererful to meet with the media. we met with producer, producer of npr. i saw a fox news producer that we deal with a lot. it's a chance to show fall list and highlight a few titles that would be appropriate for them. >> give me one more title that you're excited this fall? >> by robert watson, it's about

a ship that was harbored in brooklyn during the revolution, the american revolution. it was a prison ship, terrible, terrible conditions, he has made a career robert watson of researching ships that play a role in war. he did nazi titanic not too long ago. >> senior director of publicity, thanks for your time. >> good evening, my name is abraham foxman, from time to time i have an opportunity to welcome some of our guests particularly in the area of antisemitism and bigotry and engage with them in conversation.