generally and i listen to reviews and then certain authors, david mccullough, you can't go wrong. anything by him 1776, john adams, anything that he's written is going to be engaging and interesting and you're going to learn something. >> but tv wants to know what you're reading. send us your summer reading list via twitter book tv or instagram at book ótv. or posted to our facebook page, facebook.com/ tv. >> book tv on c-span2, television for serious readers. >> the name of the book to stop harassment and take your power back, gretchen carlson is the author. ms. carlson, what are you trying to say with this cover? >> to be fair, to encourage all women who feel like they've been put down or subjugated to speak up and

have a voice.and it's not just about harassment in the workplace. it's about any avenue women feel like they had been heard and look, it starts early on for some girls, they're bullied in school. they move on to college and they had a huge problem with campus colts and daybreak. and then we move into the workplace and many of us are confused and surprised to find out that we are not necessarily always going to be there which is 20 in other areas and unfortunately many of us will also be harassed and for the book is really about empowering women in all aspects of their life and sharing my life lessons and what happened to me along the way but also what we all need to do to join this together, and to take back our power. >> !. >> was pretty well-publicized that you left fox, can you tell us why? >> i can't tell specifically at all about my case because i reached a settlement and

that's the nature of settlements but what really inspired me to write this book was that i heard from thousands of women across this country immediately after that happened. and you know, when i jumped out myself last july i had no way of knowing that there was going to be any conversation at all and what really believe me were hearing from all these people. >> they were sharing their own personal stories, sexual harassment, many of them different not that different from anyone else. they felt they can trust me, they knew that i would get and i started printing off all these stories in my home office and there was thousands of them and i said to myself i need to do something with this. that was really what the book was.it was giving a voice to the voiceless. and what's been amazing in the process is that some of us didn't even have, they

never had their stories heard in so many things. and they feel that the public funds that i took was a victory for them as well. >>. >> i think i read in this preview 70 percent of women have experienced some type of harassment. >> that would be a low figure. when i go and speak in front of thousands of people, i raise their hand and unfortunately in 2017 almost every single one has a story. and it's unbelievable to me. we think that we come so far and i have two children, their 14 and 12 and i really want to change this for them and i knew so many parents across the country don't want to fathom the idea of their daughter going to work and having something like this so this is really about coming together and deciding how we're going to fix this problem and the book explores so many different angles about how we're going to do that from talking about how we need men to help us from

talking about parents, let's take a pledge together to raise our kids with gender neutrality and empower those girls and boys. there's a whole chapter on a playbook of helping women navigate the waters that they found themselves in a situation like this at work. so there's a ton of information in this book about picking people up and saying enough is enough, we're going to do something about it. >> you also report that up until the 1970s, the term sexual harassment is essentially didn't exist. >> look at where we come in society where we've made such great strides with regard to civil rights and with the equality of women but we still have work to do. so when you look at it from that perspective and safe okay, now we're only 6017, we have made a lot of progress but what i found out is that we still have so much more to do. and one of the biggest issues is the myths, the myths that

surround this issue of sexual harassment. so what we need to really get past is when we went finally get the guts to come forward and say something, why are they so clueless? what i found is the majority of women who find strength to do something about it, in many cases end up getting fired. the perpetrators stay in the workplace and those women never go back to their chosen field or profession. that's wrong. so we need to get rid of the myth about that if you speak up you're a troublemaker. or that you are trying to cause problems or you just don't get along or you can't take a joke. we need to celebrate the women who finally have the strength to come forward and try to eradicate this myth. it's still out there. >> unfortunately it's hard to believe but it's definitely still out there. >> you also report that women

almost feel guilty. >> yes, because i think in some ways women are still raised to feel like they are to blame for things that happen in their lives, even things that are out of their control. and so much of this book is how to not feel jilted anymore. a lot of us are raised to be pleasers and we are raised to be perfectionistic and while that has been handy for me in my life as far as accomplishing a lot of the goals i set my mind to , i like to call myself a recovered perfectionist and i'm really trying to teach my kids, especially my daughter do not be a perfectionist because really, you start setting yourself up for failure. we all make mistakes and learn more from our failures but especially on that squeezing side, that's

preventing some women from having a voice, frombeing able to come forward because they don't want to make any waves . so that fits into the parenting chapter, how we can raise our kids to not be that way. >> gretchen carlson, what constitutes sexual-harassment? >> it's complicated. i'm not a lawyer so i don't want to be having any legal advice but it's really unwanted suggestion that is actually two kinds of sexual harassment. a hostile work environment or quid pro quo which would mean you are asked to fulfill some sort ofsexual obligation to keep your job or get a promotion .so i explain all of this in the book and have consulted many legal experts who specialize in this 24 seven that if people will be

able to get all the knowledge they need from reading the book but it really comes down to the objective. and whether or not a woman or a man feels as if there is an environment that they can feel comfortable for them in the workplace. >>. [inaudible] >> i can't talked extensively about any of my feelings other than to say that the most important thing for me was my children and making sure that they are okay in all this. >> when the final copy of this book comes out in october, will it include some of the women that you heard from? >> extensively. and it's the interesting thing, especially is pervasive in all the different walks of life so i interviewed factory workers, interview two things, interviewed politicians currently serving who are being sexually harassed. i interview accountants, doctors. it runs the gamut .

teachers. that was what was so astounding when i started hearing from all these women is that it wasn't just like it was in a couple professions. it's everywhere. and i think that's why so many women have felt courageous in hearing my story because mine was so public and maybe there's never was. >> but again, they felt that that power in my voice, they felt a victory that they might have never had. >>. >> people stop you on the street to tell you their stories. >> they do in my unscientific study in new york city, more men stop me than women. >> and i take great pride in that. >> what with the men talk about? >> most often want to shake my hand and say thank you for doing this for my daughter's. for my granddaughters, for my nieces. >> i think men have children

and specifically daughters, they are very grateful. because it goes back to what we were talking about earlier, who wants their child to eventually go through something like this? nobody wants that. and that's why we all need to be invested in these issues. >> you opened this preview and this is just a preview of the book coming out in october. >> go back to minnesota and shutthe hell up . gretchen needs to let go, she brought it on herself. grow up, move on, stop whining, gretchen, your show sucks. you're a never has been, hope nobody hires you use. etc. etc. >> and my facebook post. >>. >> it comes with the territory. >> is it hard to take you seriously. >> yes, everyone's human. but luckily for me, i

developed thick skin a long time ago because also in my past resume of life i was in miss america and having gone through that experience it was as if my resume of being bound to orient and graduating, it's almost like all that evaporated . by the way i was also a classical violinist so i had to learn early on when i was 22 how suddenly people just attack you and don't like you for no apparent reason. and i remember going to my father and saying that, especially coming from minnesota which you understand as a minnesota night fan, why would people not like me just because? to give me a bite i think about every day and it's been very helpful last year. which is you try to accumulate as many people as possible. >> and you keep trying with those who don't. but then the men, if they

don't decide to come to your side. you have to let go. and that advice has been paramount to my life in the last year. >> i don't expect to please everyone with what i did or with this book but i do know that i'm going to empower thousands of others who want to learn more about this issue and want to have their voices heard. >> you refer to yourself as a recovering perfectionist. >> because i thought i was going to be recovered at 40. but kind of happened. >> i just usually turned 50 and now i'm very proud to say that i think i'm on the road to recovery. >> i think it's really important to achieve as much as possible in life and a lot of times it takes a lot of grit and determination and

that fighting spirit and yes, perfectionism. but it can also lead to a tremendous amount of unhappiness because nobody's perfect area and i think we should celebrate our mistakes a little bit more in this world, especially with our kids without giving every kid a trophy. and make him earn something, make them fall on their face because when you get out into the real world, you have to know how to handle yourself when mom and dad are not around. so yes, recovered, reformed, whatever the right term is, the perfectionist. >> gretchen carlson's book, stop harassment and take your power back, comes out in october 2017. this is a preview on tv. >>. >> here's a look at some of the current best telling nonfiction books according to indy boundary, a group of independent bookstores or members of the american booksellers association.

>> topping the list is astrophysicist neil degrasse tyson's exploration of the universe. in astrophysics for people in a hurry followed by minnesota senator al franken's memoir, giant of the senate. and third, jd vance recalls his childhood in a rust belt town in ohio in hillbilly elegy. >> then mark benson's advice on leading a happier life. and a collection of excerpts from the diary of humorist david harris. >>

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