>> really appreciate it. even if they carry on until they drop dead. >> please do.

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so now breaking through so we did the story of a congressman who talked about voting multiple times then the story is crescendoing about 1 million people tweet but at that point the powers that be that before the mainstream media for something did not wish to talk about is what we call a break here. >> if you consider your politics to be conservative? >> noted justice motivates me when into breitbart by said this is about justice

to be a counterbalance. i believe the people on my team have a spiffier injustice if it is right wing with fraud and corruption then call me names it does not matter what you call us a deal and the characterization and the innuendo but it doesn't matter the words that you use to describe the chicago-based sun-times they won a pulitzer prize for going with a hidden camera into a voting booth to expose the ease of voter fraud we have done that dozens of times we are resigned we will never win a war. this is a journalism done 4050 years ago with technology immediate distribution i would not

characterize myself as right wing trying to revolutionize information i cannot change the nature of reality i cannot alter that characterization of description. >> host: you have been accused of selective editing >> if you look at those specific criticisms katie couric and did deceptively and never heard documentary and they also had to make a retraction and never had to make a retraction. there is little else to say we released the of raw but getting them to print hundreds of corrections about me i have never in my career made mistake rises to the level that they have an by the way mean stream media

that i have a problem using anonymous sources the you cannot only use anonymous sources to make your point you have to use them sparingly and have to be credible. the use the example of the washington post who literally had to retract his had lied about the three weeks ago. james o'keefe selectively edited and i did not. that the hidden producer from a lantern he actually did retract that. so i never specifically made anything using that term is a characterization to say this is how day work. >> you mentioned assault kolinsky -- saul alinksky.

>> of which is on the panel with his son and he appeals to people's self-interest antagonistic. he denied hill's of the christian ethic but self-interest and how will we give power to these people? and give them to the have-nots that is very similar in so far the mainstream media does not give you information. that voter fraud does not exist if it isn't even possible so our mission is to say that it is true to get that information out.

>> so what is in your self-interest? you can say left to right. to except the world as it is in he in fact, recruited people in saul alinksky was a major contributing reason why the churches are now democratic voting blocs so he was effective but not dogmatic. >> is there any concern that that was unfair?. >> i don't believe so. that information is extreme public interest because it

is an earthshaking. and though with jeff zucker told him that to drop the investigative journalism only focus on russia and said it was all about money. >> guest: then in the secret corridors of elevators but with extreme public interest to show i will never go into someone's bedroom. he was an eternal -- attorney general of maryland. to avoid the personal sexual nature of his life but talking matters of extreme they used to win pulitzer prizes. they rented a bar in chicago for year and put hitting cameras for one year at this

bar in 1975 i believe in the recorded all these conversations in wrote about them they got bribes and kickbacks. so it is a powerful tool in the responsibility and have to use it sparingly bullet that deception then get the anonymous sources. we don't even know what they are saying to the new york times we cannot see that or read their inclination we have to trust the reliability of the is tuition -- to institutions. >> how much does project veritas going right now?. >> i cannot say that. our main target is the media and i will tell your audience when never made a promise i always deliver. i told the inaugural ball i would expose the mainstream media and we did.

there's more coming but there will be big is significant the media is not doing its duty and they need to come to terms with they have told us the laziness and agreed in this is what we we sick sick -- exposing and it is significant. >> who was the person you write about in "breakthrough"?. >> individual who tried to sabotage me in a very personal way. i marked man people try to separate target me but the differences that nadia try to create a false accusation in court that this is why

people don't do what i do because you are falsely accused with the difference yes we used to hitting carries but we don't the facture or create evidence i wish she filled what happened that night because it would show nothing but that is not how these people work for go there very machiavellian and andrew breitbart told me there is interested not humanizing me because to do so would show i am passionate care about justice. they don't want to do that they want to make me seem like an evil person in these are some of the of battles i have learned it is a deterrent to other people.

if we try to give them some hope so let's join together in project veritas is about bringing more journalists on board they will not shut us down. >> host: how is project veritas funded?. >> non-profit more than half of the donations become from five bartender $100 contributions nobody has a fiduciary control mobley tells us what to do we just pursue stories of public-interest i would challenge that you ask any of the networks -- anchors weather stories lean so heavily to the left with conservative activist and my curry did not take up political position and i say anything overtly political that is the we're funded and what we stand for.

>> what do you think that with these death threats you might get paranoid? i mean like an eye over your shoulder?. >> i used to be pretty glib about it i didn't do this about safety with your number one concern you need a different occupation of but if you take precautions and i cannot get into what they are there are significant and serious there are people up there that want to shut me down the dollar like that we are exposing and it is that simple i just cannot tell you what we're doing. i cannot get into the details but probably the end of this year and that

extraordinary information probably after labor day is the next big bombshell on the mainstream media. we have the case already now we're getting more tapes that are secured. and it talks about the series of american providence that all these networks that had embargoed the material of the stories because they were afraid of retaliation by the government for fear of the fcc to revoke their license. my meetings with donald trump and so stay tuned for that.

>> host: james o'keefe is the author of "breakthrough" our guerilla war to expose fraud and save democracy" booktv on c-span2 add to freedom of fast -- freedom fest