i promised i would try to say something and what carl cannon means to this city. i don't speak as a democrat and i don't speak as a partisan. i speak as god forbid i just want to say on behalf of all of us coral that you are a unique resource to the city. you are bipartisan. you are fair. you are tough. you are one hard journalist to spin and i sure did try. i want to thank you for all that you've done for everyone in the city and especially people who appreciate great journalist so thank you. [applause]

>> host: you are watching booktv on c-span2, television for serious readers. we are in new york city at the publisher's annual. match on what we'd like to do during this summer's preview some of the fall books that are coming out. next up we want to introduce you to zoe quinn. she is the author of this book, "crash override" how gamergate nearly destroyed my life and how we can win the fight against online hate. zoe quinn what do you do for a living? >> ultimately my day job is an independent game developer. >> host: we will get to that but let's go to the game are part of that. what exactly do you do? >> a lot of stuff. i'm an independent game

developer which means i do much if the stuff on my own. i'm a programmer a writer and artist. it's a little bit of everything and i tried him get people who don't think they'd aims are for them --. >> host: what are one of the games that you've developed that maybe the audience is familiar with? >> i am best known from an interaction game. >> host: describe what happened in this game. are you on a console like a ps4 something? >> it simply runs on the web site regarded the web site the web site. if controls are simple. you are giving an assignment. your partner cause you and ask you to go to a party.

there's a normal healthy option of going and have fun with your friends. and you were given a bunch of other options to try to show through getting the player to actually do. it's not simply a bad mood that you can snap out of. it's a game about taking things away. let's go how did you get into this work? >> guest: the community is active and welcoming. a lot of us have left larger studios to do our own thing. it's a big community and making research available to other people to come in and make their own games. >> host: how big is this world of gamergate? >> guest: pre-paid to consider how many people on public transit and playing games on their phone. almost everybody plays games now

so it's enormous. it encompasses word games, video games, fun games. there are people making really cool art installation games and interactive experiences. >> host: something happened to you while you were a gamer and that's what your book is about. what happened? >> guest: what happened is particularly insightful. i decided it's not going to control me. he posted an extremely long rambling blogpost to cause as much harm as possible to myself and made me the perfect target for all the different tablets as far as the undercurrent of hatred towards progressive people, marginalized people. he actually workshopped how to make this post go viral like

people do with marketing campaigns. it's trying to ruin your ex-girlfriend's life. >> host: how close to become? >> guest: worked quite well. i get constant death threats and my family gets constant death threats. they found out where i left and have spent upwards of five figures hiring of ti. doing research on men digging through my trash. it caught on outside of gaming with what people are calling the alt-right. at that time they didn't have a word for it. all of them i was the target tissue or especially because i refuse to back down and called it what it was. >> host: what does this have to do with politics and wisest in the alt-right thing? >> people capitalize on this sort of thing. breitbart has run numerous pieces about me and as well as my family.

the first one was called lying feminist -- going through video games. it linked to photos of me at my dad's home address and stuff like that. it's weirdly extremely personal and not personal at all all at the same time. the fact that so many new people from all different walks of life are making games. people like them and they are like oh no this is mine. he can't be here and there's the entire element to like yelling at anybody they perceive to be remotely feminist. there are so many -- nightmare trash that lined up perfectly and i was in the wrong place at the wrong time. >> host: zoe quinn when you first on this blogpost on line where were you and how did you find it? >> guest: i was actually out

with friends, with my new boyfriend. we were about to -- he is accepted to job in france. i do what i do wherever in the world so we were celebrating his birthday and my phone started to sing and buzzing and buzzing and buzzing. it was counting the time between thunderclaps to see how far the storm is. the between times got shorter and shorter and my phone is blowing up with words, really charged rhetoric and i had to work backwards from that. a friend of mine had said i don't know if you know this but somebody just registered on your form and posted this really far out there threat about you. he had shopped around different forms and tell a place that

didn't care pick it up and ran with it. i just watched for the rest of the night. i had gotten used to screen shouting things. i have the recorded history of everything. gigabytes and gigabytes of this unfolding so it's a very weird excavation effort. >> host: europe look "crash override," where did that title come from? >> guest: it came from what i think is more important in the story which is what we did about it. we used to for a while meet friends the we would call for pre-happy drinks. for the next few months. [inaudible]

we had battery chargers so no matter where we were we could be on line and sure enough another independent game developer had gotten had said he and i went to action while three were out with friends. "crash override" was one of the handles and that and i love campy cinema. the meaning of overriding this thing crashing down around you felt like it had a double meaning and it was really important to me. i didn't want the book just to be about this is a terrible thing that happened. the entire second half is what did i do about and what can we do about it? that's really the book i wanted to write. >> host: when did you get involved in the gaming world? in your youth? >> guest: i grew up. isolated so i was a gamer but kind of a weird one. i didn't have a nintendo or playstation. my dad had gotten a three do

which shipped in 1998 and immediately died. with $700 to launch and was a big push. instead of computer-generated graphics, you cannot get better graphics than real people. the acting is really terrible. i started playing that in being a weird kid about it and it wasn't till later that i got into computer gaming. it was a computer i cobbled together with spare parts. took a while to get into gaming. i would size about 10 years behind. my dad a gotten a console at a garage sale and i think 97 or 99 , way after it was games worth so i had a limited place and

time with the game boy that i had. i started to meet other gamers on line and that's when we became acute and started playing games competitively. it wasn't till i was 23 that i even knew i could make a game myself. it sounds silly. it's this magical thing happened with hundreds of people somewhere else. >> host: were you one of the few women? >> guest: yeah it's hard to say because it's definitely been a lot of men and games but they don't get as much visibility or support. the numbers are smaller for sure but it's definitely i think i underestimated how many of us there are. they are not a ton. >> host: your book "crash override", we really need to interrogate the traditional

wisdom that's mostly white, mostly male mostly western decision-makers for on line harassment and we needed truly diverse range of thinkers to be actively welcomed into the conversation. ..

stuff like squatting where people get your home address and call in a fake bomb threat event that's happening at your house, hopefully someone will go to -- a swat team will go to your house and someone will shoot you dead. they are waiting for an opportunity to push all the responsibility on needing more laws or better arrest is negligent. every time i was in these rooms, usually with other

people who were brought in to have that viewpoint alongside hours was having the same conversations over and over and over telling them this is not relevant to my experience or did you even think about this policy like this violence directed at trans- people and they threaten and harass them. a lot of tech companies were even thinking about being a form of harassment. just look like a name to them. how could that be harassment, it's not threats. that's one of the reasons why more tech is needed. the people making our laws, there's not a ton of diversity there so having everyone not have these perspectives is frustrating, and i can't even get all of them because i have

my own limitations to stuff like that. >> here's the book. crash overlap ride. how we can win the fight against online hate. >> thank you. >> you are watching the tv. television for serious readers. you can watch any program you see here online booktv.org. >> next on book tv, robert arniel of the former navy seal credited with the killing of osama bin laden talks about his military career and some of the 400 missions he participated in. this program contains language that some may find offensive. >> it is my pleasure to welcome you here today. to begin our program this evening, please stand and welcome the west covina high