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funding, medicine, through government funding, whereas republicans want the individual to be more in charge and to keep more of their money and be more personally responsible for just two different philosophies and people who vote after the philosophies as well and is reflected in how they vote. and i think again that's what on capitol hill you are not seeing bipartisanship in tax reform. it's one of those things i think truly divides the two parties. >> host: our viewers can follow this debate and susan ferrechio reporting it to go to "washington examiner".com, go to twitter as well. susan ferrechio chief congressional correspondent for what you think you in the rest of your team at the "washington examiner" for letting c-span come into your newsroom this morning and chat with you about what you all do in your reporting. thank you very much. >> guest: thank you very much, greta. >> host: the "washington
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examiner" online and print publication here in washington, d.c. we are in the newsroom this morning on the "washington journal" talking to the editor and reporters about news of the day joining us now is timothy carney, a commentary editor for the "washington examiner." mr. carney, what is a commentary editor? what is your responsibility? >> guest: so at the examiner like most publications we've got a new site and an opinion site or a commentary site. i am the editor of the commentary page here i'm in charge of coming up with often writing the editorials. of our commentary writers that are in-house, either editor, editing their pieces. sometimes the signing pieces. i the boss of the pinion side you could say. >> host: what is your take on the judge roy moore story and watch the latest? >> guest: so we had a few
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shows beware one of our opinion guys what are things we try to do on the pinion type is to do reporting. so one of our opinion writers called up some of his sources from the alabama race and he got one of the state officials going on the record sort of justifying this what roy moore is accused of doing by pointing to the bible and is understanding of mary beingng a teenager and josh being an adult. and to me what that highlighted was in the republican party there is a a fierce and to thik increasingly fierce partisanship, a willingness to dig in heels and make excuses for the sort of things that i remember under bill clinton were entirely unacceptable to sort of social conservatives. but meanwhile on capitol hill you've got john mccain coming out and say that roy moore has got to step aside. there's all sorts of conservatives who. didn't want and nostalgic republicans who did what roy moore, who won
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either lose restraint are or some conservatives wanted roy brooks to be the nominee for this alabama senate seat. they are trying to finagle can we get a writing candidate, writing campaign? all of it is- sort of hung up on the fact that we have an allegation and we have a fierce denial and everything is way past the statute of limitations will not have a trial or a criminal investigation. it's there and stable at this point we don't know which direction it's going to go. my opinion, if the republicans have an obligation to try to get roy moore, may be deposed him, get a signed affidavit, getting to swear on the bible and ask them really tough questions about what exactly happened at is that foolproof? no, but that would be better than just saying and kelly gets proven we will stick with them. >> host: breitbart.com you mention this house it was behind the current sitting senator
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luther strange replaced jeff sessions. the breitbart.com run by steve bannon, they were behind roy moore, their headline, quoting mr. bannon saying -- we heard morning, viewers this tim carney, saying they don't leave it because it's coming from the "washington post." >> guest: this is a real big problem with the media that is partly of, partly the fault of the mainstream and assaulted the fault ofe i think politicians e being opportunistic. when you've seen especially in the trump arrow the left of center, mainstream media be very i'm careful and be willing to report things that turn out to beur completely false if it's negative about donald trump in the first hoursti they sang dond trump had the bus of martin
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luther king removed from the oval office. there were somee olympic medalit who was detained at an airport of this of this is because of trump's policy. it turned out it happen before trump and even coming to office. we've seen it again and again. one of my commentary writers has been chronicling this constantly. there is been just the media has done a lot to the mainstream bigger paper selene left in my opinion, they have done a lot to a divine their credibility and what are the unfortunate side effects of this has been arming people to say well, you can't trust anything in the media. what we try to do, i try to do is to say when the mainstream media makes a mistake, attacking republicans, attacking trump, is to say here's what they did here here's what they did in two that would've been good journalism and here's how it's run. when i looked at the "washington post" story about roy moore ic 30 sources which is astounding. it's very rare you see a story with 30 sources. you can see contemporaneous
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corroboration from peers of the woman. she's on the record giving her name comes what is making the accusations. they went and found some federal records, , some public records o whatever extent they could to corroborate her story. that doesn't mean it's true but it's a very thoroughly reported story. reporter say they didn't get it handed to them by the democrats. so in my mind this is steve bannon taking a true phenomenon, which is a t media being more unfair to republicans in the last six months for the last year than in only have been, and exploiting that fact to undermine a story when they don't have any reall counter arguments against the "washington post" that was incredibly well reported. >> host: let's look at the alabama newspapers. the montgomery advertiser, roy moore hit with such allegation, campaign calls it fake news. he denies accusations. the tuscaloosa news, gop leaders
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both from a? >> guest: . bolt from moore. what does that mean? >> guest: first a point of law. my understand of alabama election is that heel will stayn the public there's no way to replace him on the vote. what could happen is a write in campaign. the most likely candidate again would be luther strange was a sitting senator who's appointed to the seat who lost to roy moore in the primary. but if he is the only republican candidate running, it doesn't mean that he's done. remember donald trump was elected after audio came out of him bragging about sexual soffit bill clinton became the democratic parties grokster. they describe in as that come as a rock star after came out that he had an affair with a woman half his age in the oval office and like to cover it up. there's republican congressman, there's two republican
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congressman who offered abortions for the mistresses, and one of them has gotten reelected. it's not beyond the realm of possibility that roy moore could win statewide it will hurt him. in alabama there's a lot of people especially in new york like me live in washington, d.c. like me tends to lump all alabama white, republicans into one file but there's all sources, and there is some who's going to say i just can have the democratss controlled the senate and their somber going to agree with steve bannon, this is just a big lie by the mainstream media. there's a lot more going to be conservatives and conservative christians who are going to not be able to hold the nose and vote for roy moore. what a the vote for jones, a democratic upon a? will the sale? i'll say this because it is a good republican alternative it will certainly hurt moore entering what would normally be a very safe seat, and alabama statewide senate seat come into
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a very competitive seat. if it sunk him, the republicans will have 52 seats. they could add a vigilant and they have a couple other vulnerable seats. ifou this antitrust enthusiasm continues it's very possible that roy moore and the story about his past could be the thing that gives democrats control of the senate. >> host:t: tim carney here to take your questions and hear, to rebut news the day. wilco to frank in west virginia. hi, frank. >> caller: greta, , w what's gog on down there? >> host: a lot. >> caller: i'm telling you. i'm confused, the thing i don't understand is fake news. we have freedom of the press. someone says, it's rewritten a reset button is meeting and its word for word verbatim, is that fake news? and if a person lies and then
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it's printed, is that fake news when they say no, , they didn't get it right. i'm a little confused. i'll take my answer off the air. >> host: go ahead, tim carney. tragic that a great question because in the press we have standards. they're not always obvious to the public what the standards are. might beged it different for an opinion page like mine thatth it is for newspage and the might vary depending on the severity of the charge.ep i've received people telling me this congressman is having an affair with this staff are this lobbyist. i wouldn't report i was told by this person that the staff is having an affair with this lobbyist or t even though my quoting a personally i could attica put up a shield of i'm not saying this is having i'm guessing this person discharging it. it scimitar you would not spread gossip but i think there's a higher standard even for the
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media. that if it something that would damage somebody's repetition we have an ethical responsibility and in some cases a legal response but to go out and try to get some sort of confirmation on what's going on. what sometimes you get an anonymous accusation of sexual harassment accusing some of that or sexual assault in these recent cases but in a lot of these stories you will notice the journalist didn't run it until they had multiple accusations. and until that gone to the accused and asked of them and got their response. again, , in this case and the "washington post" they went and they gotts the story, this girl was sitting a custody hearing. they followed up in the data yes, a fact that was his custody hearing. they got court records of decades ago and r then they foud out where roy moore's office was at that time and he was in the same place. then they asked of the people
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did ever hear anything of this? this was in a small town. that's the sort of corroboration that you want on something that such a heavy charge as what's come out against roy moore, which is sexual assault against a minor. and so you can't just write it because somebody said it. in some cases you can. john mccain will introduce a bill, maybe it's a lindsey graham says john mccain will introduce a bill. but if it's a heavy charge, the responsibility on the journals to try to find t some corroboration and give the accused a chance to respond. >> host: will go to dennis next in indiana, on outline for republicans. thank you to the conversation. >> caller: i would like to want the gentleman that not only was bill clinton guilty of having an affair with monica lewinsky he was accused of rape and sexual assault by many women. congressman barney frank ran a brothel inrn his home, so --
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>> guest: not exactly. there was a brothel in some butter think he ran it. >> caller: his boyfriend read. are you trying to tell me the menu slip with didn't know it? give me a a break. >> host: what's your point? what your point next. >> caller: my point is, is how phony the media on the left is. everything that is ever said about anyone the p right. barack obama come out and lied to the american people for your about i'm going to cut your brain is like $2500. were going to do this and that. the left in this country is insane. >> host: tim carney, we've alreadynt established center conservative publication. but what do you make of each side, and democrats do it, saying that they don't get a fair shake? s they get scrutinized more than republicans. republicans get scrutinized more than the democrats in the media. >> guest: and i come from a
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conservative perspective, and so perhaps it's the sort of bias lenses i see it but it's undeniable to me that half of what that colleges said is true, that republicans and conservatives are subject to come in general, to far more scrutiny than democrats andat liberals are, , whether it has o do with sexual morality or whether it has to do with honesty. as a columnist for the examiner for eight years i spent time point out his of barack obama saying about lobbyist. here's what he's doing about lobbyist. his racing but the special interest. he's doing giving ways to special interest. it was great because most of the media wasn't interested in that there was reporting it. i had lots of learning room on my own. tens of the media that is now attacking roy moore i yuriko attacking donald trump was coming up with excuses for bill clinton 20 years ago. my response to get service to
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make that charge is we were right in the 1990s when we said it's really destructive to have a president who behaves this way. we were right whenct you said tt about anthony weiner. so we should be right now with regards to donald trump and what is content tape bragging a sexual assault and we should be right saying roy moore to the degree that we can know that this is true, that this is despicable and this would disqualify him for office. does the media have double standard? yes. at the examiner on the commentary page would try to point that out to hack that will retry that have double stem cell. we can'tat hold the people he agree with other people are in the republican party to which come in the with no affiliation, we tried to hold them to the same standard that we hold a bill clinton and and anthony weiner at a party fraker barney frank was a tie, i agree prettily shameful that his past ethical lapse of completing daughter i think that was media
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bias but we should better than the other side is my response. >> host: what about t republicans, a platform for the party that stands on family values? republicans the run on family values and morality. >> guest: this is the hypocrisy part, that it's worse for republicans to have the sexual exploits that if the democrats. i think that's the soft bigotry of low expectations i do think the democratic party has in its platform, having affairs with 22-year-olds is fine when you're the president. i don't think that your boyfriend can run a brothel out of your house and you can try to fix the parking tickets if you're aou member of congress, which is of the charge against barney frank. i don't think that something the democrats fight as okay. the attempt to say there's a double standard, what's implied is something i find very offensive if i were a democrat
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which is democrats are okay with this type of stuff with sex in mice with anthony when it was convicted of. the hypocrisy charge is kind of often disregard because neither party is a party of sexual assault or boot material being texted to minors. i think the hypocrisy charge is really an opportunistic charge i liberals who don't understand how bad the implication is for their site if they are saying is not hypocritical for bill clinton to abuse power and have a sexual affair in the oval office with somebody half his age, let's go to jerry who's a democrat in georgia. you are on the air. >> caller: i wanted to ask him about the sinclair news. it's my understanding that it is being set up by the republican party andit president trump to e like a state run media that
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would, i mean taxpayer dollars will support this and it would only putt propaganda, of cours. i wonder if he would give us any background on that and the danger of that to our democracy. thank you. >> host: tim carney. >> guest: undone an expert on the story. i've had -- i read the headlines and some of the stories. to some extent broadcast news in the u.s. has some partnership with government because you need to come he the broadcast the quizzes and all this stuff but there's no special supportrt for when people talk about it as statement be that is an opinion writer characterizing it as media that will be overly friendly to donald trump whether this is true of sinkler zest on the i get address because i'm not an expert on what they do or what they will do it but but il address a broader point. i think the main job of journalism come of journalists and the united states, their
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sports journals, culture journalists but the reason where written into the first amendment, the freedom of the press, in addition to the freedom of speech alongside the free exercise of religion is that where necessary to hold accountable the people in power. to the degree anybody in the media sees their job as protecting the people in power, that is something that's troubling to me. during the obama years i think a lot of people did that. i think the "washington post" and the "new york times" looked the other way. you can see how after obama left they said democracy died in darkness. the "washington post" did come after obama left the "new york times" said because truth matter now more than ever. the implication was the truth didn't matter when obama was the one spreading the untruths. i think this scrutiny you're getting from the mainstream towards trump is good. i wish they were more sober and check their the facts more andt of the allegations against trump but i think the idea of media
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that overly friendly to the people in power is something that is concerning to whether that's a fair charge against sinclair or not i don't know. >> host: we are at the "washington examiner" in addition talking to the reporters and editor tim carney, their commentary editor with the next ten minutes. we will say goodbye to him around getting close to around 90 m the top of the art because thee house would be gaveling ad very quickly forges a pro forma session. it willin come in for maybe about five minutes and they will gavel back out and at that point we will pick back up with our conversation with the "washington examiner", continue with your phone calls at the time so stay with us as we continue to talk to the reporters on the "washington examiner" this morning. let's go to bloomington indiana democrat. >> caller: yes. thank you for taking my call.
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i think in just watching, i watch a lot of news because i'm disabled, and i know, i'm pretty sure that president trump is the one that is putting out the fake news. i think he starts it when he puts it on twitter. and then it just continues. >> host: let's take that point. tim carney. >> guest: president trump is extorted as president of the united states willingness to sort of put out information that is not, that he hasn't that is, that he has a check, that here's something that he will sayhe ina speech or he will put it out on twitter. though i do want to pick on the word fake news. a year ago people to use that word in the president obama started talking about it shortly after the election. he meant something very specific which was people actually making up stories the there's a story
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duringy the election that the pope francis had endorsed president trump nothing like this about that. this was at misunderstanding. it was a made up story because like my kids make up stories until. that's what was meant by fake news. the president trump adopted the term and called seen in fake news and a lot of people that used it to point out when somebody makes a really bad error which again the press to get done with increasing frequency since the election. and so fake news as something that's erroneous or misreported is not a very useful term. does president trump have a problem of repeating unchecked facts? yesterday to say that he is the source of it is not accurate. we could point if you come to the washington examiners website and look at the work of beckett adams you could find hunters of stories of stuff going out that's false. just yesterday we had a white
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house reporter pointed out something that trump did in china, that he did do. we criticized for and editor donald trump did not push the chinese communist party leader to have a press conference we had to take questions from the press. this is a bad thing that trump did not do this because it's a rare chance he to actual as questions of the leader of this aimlessly closed, society that is very opposed to transparency. but the cnn reporter said he's the first president since george h. w. bush cannot do that with china. that was just false. he said that in a tweet and it turns out the first time barack obama went to china the same exact thing happened. but t this report puts it out ia tweet. it gets 1400 retweets and then eight hours later because back, i was wrong. obama did the same thing in his first term. that gets about 12 retweets if
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the point is twitter has given journalists a chance can we often have a first draft and then we check it. sometimes the first draft gets outge very unchecked and especil since election of donald trump. to say donald trump is the purveyor of fake news is to ignore a great role that the media left and right have played in pushing out unchecked facts display since madonna tour especially since so the election of donald trump has a lot of the country into a tizzy. >> host: let's see if we can get ado quick question from bill in connecticut. >> caller: thank you for c-span. i've got a lot to say, but not enough time. what i want to say come one thing to start with, mark twain said if you don't read the news, you are uninformed. if you read the news, you are misinformed. this has a lotd. to do why our country is so messed up. the news media is very to
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confuse people. and iraq they just -- >> host: i'm going to end it at that point that the news media is up there to confuse people. tim carney, , how do you react o that? >> guest: so i've been very harsh on a lot of the mainstream media, but now i'll say what they n get right, that if you lk at the news pages of the major newspapers of the networks, ofe the "washington examiner" you see lots of very careful people trying to get the story right and typically doing lots of work as our full-time jobs to get the story right. j .. can point to excellent journalism being done. did"new york times" excellent journalism on hillary clinton. they got the reporting up and made sure voters understood how adverse
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>> guest: voters understood how adverse and how antagonistic hillary clinton was through transparency. washington post did a lot of good reporting show what's romantic donald trump was that he didn't have a political record but here is more "on his character. he says he gives these charitable gifts and he didn't. here's this audiotape of what he said when he didn't anything was listening and was excellent journalism so the voters went to the voting booth they knew the most essential things about their candidates and a free press is very important and i think in general even the newspapers i criticize constantly they do lots of good reporting. the media, w i think, has a lotf core problems but i say we give our criticism in terms of love and expectation because it ismu such a crucial institution and does so much good that it makes it such a shame when our colleagues go ahead in this report something or are sloppy. it nicely shows the doubt
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public, in this crystal institution and the doubt is exploited, as you see in steve bannon's comments in such a way as to try to make it so the people are untethered to fax except for what their partisan politicians tell them. >> host: if you want to read more from timm carney, go to washington examiner .com and follow him on twitter. cometary editor for the washington examiner, thank you for spending time with us this morning, as well. >> guest: thank you. >> today is the 242nd birthday of the united states marine corps. members of congress took to twitter to wish the marine corps a happy birthday. here is what house speaker paul ryan had to say: >> happy 242nd birthday to bring corporate whenever our nation needs a you are there.
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to all marines and your family, thank you semper fi. >> and democratic arizona representative, kiersten wrote on twitter: >> tomorrow in observance of veterans day vice president mike pence will take part in the ceremony at the tomb of the unknown soldier and will speak "after words" at the memorial theater. live coverage from arlington national cemetery begins at 11:00 a.m. eastern on this. >> fifty years ago the united states was at war in vietnam and this veterans day weekend american history tv on c-span3 looks back 48 hours of coverage. it started saturday on a.m. eastern went to live at the national archives among the back drop of the vietnam helicopters.
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they are taking your to live with two authors about the war in 1957. at 1:00 p.m. from washington dc's vietnam memorial ceremony featuring remarks from former defense secretary chuck hagel and memorial designer maya lin. unable p.m. eastern on real america a 1967 cbs news vietnam war special report back whether it is due to the enemies clever tactics or the data fighting conditions, the weather or the train, it seems clear that the american military along the dmc is bogged down. like the marines in the mud in. >> at 6:00 p.m. on american artifacts will tour the national archives exhibit remembering vietnam and at 8:00 p.m. on the presidency the 1967 president lyndon johnson vietnam war press conference made our statement to the world of what we would do if we had common [inaudible] in
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1954 in that part of the world. we said we would stand with those people in the face of commentator and a time came we had to put up or shut up and sweep it up and we are there. >> was the vietnam war, 50 years later, this weekend on american history tv on c-span3. >> next on c-span2, overseas in australia, the country's parliament debated several issues including its role in the fight against isis and rising energy costs. >> hello and welcome to [inaudible] .com. in a bipartisan approach to offshore processing

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