book or both books, i think we have both books the captive and the trade, and please do, and asked the questions that you have that i didn't get a chance to ask. thank you very much. [applause] [inaudible conversations] : are open to the public. they will air in the near future but tv, on c-span2. >> good evening. welcome to the books and books in florida.

we like to call it the cultural part of south florida. please silence your cell phone. go to our webpage >> we do about 60 events every month. don't forget to visit all of our stores and one opening in coconut grove pretty soon we are happy to have with us this evening dr. vanessa neumann with her book blood profits. [applause] >> it is a pleasure to be here and one of the reasons vanessa asked me do this is because we

are partners in her consulting company that does the nominal consulting and this book is an example. that also as a like-minded individual who was exiled out of this country and was chased out through threat of jail. but as one of those leading industrialist to help build venezuela but these two people are venezuelan and i and can

hopefully go back but to be intelligent and the shining example of what venezuela has lost because they are here giving us the benefit of their wisdom. instead of putting it to work where it should be for the country where the largest reserves in the world instead of on the brink of bankruptcy. so rather than taking away one minute from what vanessa will tell us about i will introduce ramon because he is a shining example of the future of venezuela man doing the actual introduction.

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[speaking spanish] [applause] now i will switch into english. is that okay? [laughter] [speaking spanish] sorry, i said i was going to speak in english.

but the trajectory of working on this book has been an unexpected adventure and i was very nervous when it came out.ne it is deeply personal. i wanted to write this very geeky book very defense department type of language.ri and nobody will read this. and to write a book about what people would read. the organization for economic cooperation advisory group to

counter illicit trade and their big concern is to have the trade of pharmaceuticals and tobacco. but what we need to do is raise attention. i think i have a book. and the journey has been raise awareness. i called up the blood bombs. but that the book was to the publisher and certainly have given us a lot of material.

it also a philosophy and theories of justice. but that whole concept is the government should have the people the right to lead a life that they have reason to value. the geeky philosophers term. so to make money or get married and own a business and with your individual values and dignity. i started to write about that in 99. and then living in the united kingdom. the guardian newspaper with

the wonders of the revolution of american imperialism. and we thought know it isn't. is the means ofs production take away everybody's right to lead with dignity. i called them upo very angry to write an editorial in response and i kept at it. and then to debate someone at the time and then to become personal friends because there were not that many of us may be just me and to come to my

engagement party and said i really don't like your boss at all. and said okay and number two in the foreign ministry. but the president got an invitation from the white house in columbia to see their progress -- their progress and ended up in columbia and then without re- degree should program to spend time in the jungles with the other others.

how you got these people to put down their weapons. and that was the first time dealing with the consequences of combat. because they cannot land mine to protect the coca crops. so now they sing the songs how they smuggle cocaine into venezuela from columbia with the protection of chavez. but it was openly discussed. and i don't understand how our country is falling apart.

and i really was that vulgar. so the story started with that and that relationship with hezbollah. and then meets them and that is what i did. and i will just read a section for that. and with the obama administration all this information from a number of people of the venezuelan regime drug trafficking and

with the involvement of has below. and now suddenly e-mails. with administration policy to make a deal with iranian drug trafficking is something we want to bring up. but the problem is but now my compatriots are in prison by a regime that will not let them go. that is a long-term consequence. so then i decided i got the

attention. with that credibility in that space. with those other issues like that. l and then to do asymmetric warfare. what is counterfeit funding in panama?t to say we don't speak spanish here we speak arabic. who are you? look at the time. i realized is two things.

the money laundering through casinos and through the asad regime. it also russian operations. and the world is so interconnected. and that integrity week. there would not be illicit trade without corruption. so one of the things i became concerned with there are two paradigms.

wherever free-trade grows now they are increasingly becoming involved in transnational organized crime. originally they were there. the money was there to buy the weapons? and to protect that business. so then they move to greed as a motivation the other thing that i examine in the book --

they take nold personal grievance of a marginalized sociological group to say i am here to liberate you. i will represent you and then to take control with the means production and then they exploit you. >> this is why i realize if i put the book far enough away. >> thank you. try.e

the connections between hezbollah but one day after i landed lee was my editor invited me to the christening. with those for centuries even before the muslims. so i talked about who told you to speak to him? i did not answer.

let me guess. no wonder the americans have no idea what is going on in this country. he's not even a real shake but non-muslims knew quite well generating strong responses. when we left the christening i called the shake to give the self a number to call me back the next day we were standing on the sidewalk when his phone rang. he did speak no english. he spoke no french and i spoke no arabic. the shake told me when and him doe should meet you know this place? sure. the business district. so to be in the back of the

taxi giving the driver the address he was having his own interview to do. and then i realized how would we know each other? rather different but yes. i hesitated. i got in and shut the door. your house? and that usually end badly.

to call on yourself phone in arabic. say speak english. and then waited. with the man in the military uniformfo arrived he was terse and forthright but how much he was translating the clerics idea and how much he was astounding would never be known.

i asked if he had ever seen money coming in from south america or venezuela in particular. money comes in from venezuela, so much money. i have seen it. he was likely boasting about his reach and involvement of international matters. but then i keep asking. what about cocaine? hezbollah always has a relationship with the colombian farc.t? hugo chavez help them a lot the drugs flown in our now with industrial airliners. it was inevitable that south

america cocaine traffickers had increasingly important while intelligenceou officials believe p $200 million annually that they are dried up to the turmoil. to see how far those tentacles spread. and then to have a close relationshipd. and the army in iraq those are also trained and supported by hasbro law. the revolutionary guard corps is part of the lebanese army. because that is a microcosm if you can figure out who is fighting who then you can figure out.

anyway i don't want to go on and on. i want you to read the book. but the book weaves the story of those who have gone to these places to find out what is really going on. and my objective really is to understand what are the consequences of the choices that wema make or these financial transactions whether the counterfeit handbag or we also have anti- malaria drugs.

and those friends of mine who work with me funded partly dubai.out of and then so to understand that of morality so money does not buy happiness but a campaign for her misery. and also in with that link of

corruption and also it is a good of those transnational crimes or terroristri groups but they make all the money to pray on us as consumers and citizens and then to send it to london new york or two countries to protect their to restore rule of law. but that is where ultimately the joke is on us. thanks for coming and please buy the book 17.

[applause] [applause] >> thank you everybody for coming. >> do we have questions? >> with those latest developments?

with the obamale administration. [inaudible] >> but yes it gets more attention because of the article in the new york times.be but those that i have also written with chavez and i have written for them a couple of times so yes it is quite ironic. it is a strange sensation to

trigger to make me angry and this is what started all this off and i am also a dual citizen to say this is not good for either of us. >> we haven't seen all of these.

of how you can deal with all of the actual everything regarding with the sanctions and we also know and then to be working in the corporation and with that desire that you have to help because, you know.

>> i just want to ask something. about pensions and then to change venezuela or and then also protecting the institutions. and sometimes in south africa that there are sanctions and

weapons, arms and don't one them to get involved. but going forward with sanctions they protect their citizens that is a legitimate concern because they destroy the citizens and nations to get the protection they deny their own people.

>> so what can we do about it? it also gives an excuse. and also that perceptive on our country. but to be lifelong trader and the other interesting point

and then to the dollar. and that is in our lifetime. so we remember those good old wdays those kids are like 20 years old they don't remember the good old days like i do. and they still reject that unilaterally which is amazing to me there was a security goldman sachs but it was just a bunch of kids outside with the wall street journal it was

front page and then we have humiliated if you give money to these people and there is a great deal of power to raise consciousness. and then to commit with the asymmetrical so with that epidemic review and so i know a little bit about the subject.

and then to reintegrate those fighters. and so to have that concern as an effective counterterrorism tactic and that it is a much bigger problem. >> aside from profiteering in the global arena.

>> and that is used recently she went there and to participate in venezuela and was going to talk to him and the wholee story. and managed to get to the guy and was there for about an

hour. the whole time all the time. when one of the guards and said you will see a guy and she was there for ann hour. and then to interchange and then to sponsor her daughter is not possible. they said and with that

superstition and with that national system of education. there is no way. and those that try to get chavez back into power. but they are very at the intelligence service. so the all sectors of society

so for those people who have asked and then asking for interference there is no sovereignty. so what foreign interference? >> so by the way my former boss the head of the finance department and taught me everything about financial analysis.

and you mentioned that risk to find out all that money all around the world? is that enough? and then to change the pendulum? we need time to change that. that reputational risk so to the rule of law i understand

about banking compliance and then to spend thosen at citibank but yes still have all of these transactions but the problem the way the system is set up you have 95% false positive. so to spend your time like people like me renting a holiday house like i'm just going on holiday to mexico. it is onerous. apparently ai is supposed to save the world with baking compliance and artificial

intelligence. i don't know enough about it. [speaking spanish] [speaking spanish]

[speaking spanish] >> so theki question is and then to touch on that morality. but my mentor who was my dissertation advisor on global justice that is his real house of the morality and then to manipulate to be all over that

and had book come out last year that he edited. but the answer to that which brings it all together is norway. to have those financial statements where they make their money how much tax they pay so that solves the entire paradigm. not if you have ahmadinejad. long --dash bit cloying.

>> but then to use that with that hyperinflation with that regime. those are for very goodd reason. and also with retained value. and with the tax invasion. with those groups of criminals

but also very nice bold to do business is with this guy. and that is very important so it could make sense economically so we do need to be affected by their actions to remind them of the risk like has below that is the narrower scope of the work.

>> i have a question. so i work in compliance the link between venezuela and hezbollah started. how did that begin? >> a couple further pages along in that section knows how much he was bragging. how much it is true like if

they get rid of chavez they will create another one. in their view they thought they had enough control that they would just create another regimeme and he said that but that one of the things we are collaborating i don't know how much i should say that over the last year parsing out thoseet relationships with certain middle eastern families and over time how they spread from that power

structure and i have not read the final draft that those parotid one -- projects are a direct descendent. and with those various others that are directly related. there is a town that is called little venezuela and to understand about the middle east. and those that are in syria.

and those to cross those religious divides. and then just to show how deep they are. you may please limit yourself to four or five copies a piece. and they will sign them for you.

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on wednesday, university of san diego law professor will be at the harvard coupe in cambridge massachusetts to discuss creativity and intellectual property. we will hear michael wolf report on the trumpet ministration. also in washington d.c. will be at politics and prose bookstore where emily will explain history of marijuana in the u.s. many of these events are open to the public. the for them to air on book tv on c-span2. recently the communicators visited bell labs.