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that led to hitler. i'm not seeing we are at this point. the present presidency, sometimes it's only a short distance to extreme nationalism, which can lead to negative is then and tribalism and never before in the history of mankind in the united states, the tribalism of whether to send and tribalism, then we are through with the land of the free in the home of the brave. >> thank you for coming out. i am the event coordinator at politics & prose. thank you for coming out
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tonight. as you likely know, we host around 600 events a year. this location at our flagship connecticut avenue and also everybody around d.c. and tonight we are very pleased to host. if everyone could silence their cell phones, that would be wonderful. once everybody is good with that, we will go forward. again, we are thrilled to host ann telnaes, one addition to working for a very small local newspaper, the "washington post," one of the world's most prominent cartoonist, president of the association of american editorial cartoonists. she has many prizes for her work including the pulitzer prize in 2001 and the national cartoonist society in 2016 which puts her in such company is browse chats, many more. with her new beau, she jumps into a remarkable artist, in
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book form to the fallout of the 2016 election in their own personal way. many books have reported non-president donald trump's words that have indicated his speech patterns, but in this book, someone with someone talking to the president on his own level with the board but for 4-year-olds, but not really for 4-year-olds, but thank you to the toddlers in the audience tonight. and it also really shows him as we know him visually, squinting scowl, blotchy skin as well as the caricature surrounding him, enabling him in office or in his nursery. thank you all for coming in if you have any questions, raise your hand after the talk ann is doing and we'll have some questions. what not, i will turn it over. >> do we need to adjust this up? can you hear me?
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maybe a little up. i am sure it, but not that short. how is this? thank you for coming. this is the launch for the abc book this is exactly where it should be. there are a few bad words and nice. i'm going to read it, so we are going to go through the whole thing. there is a small child. the adult next to the small child might want to put your hands over her ears at some point, but i will warn you. if you have your book with you, go ahead and read along. so we will start now. a is for americans elected this
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guy. b. is for brand and access they'll buy. c. is for conflict of interest. don't care. he is for deafness, a trait they all share. e. is for ego, bakery and brash. f. is for fake news, created for cash. hands over ears. she is for grabbing train two with ease. i is for 80 j is for a joke, his hair spray tan. m is for trying to kill with no
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plan train to us from that mess, advance. m is for marriage is trump had a few train for is for nepotism, the dealmaking true. o is for opportunists, which trump is down deep. p is for patents, a fundamentalist d. q is for questionable democracy survives r. is for right they will deprive. s is for separation the power of views t is retreating, thin-skinned and up to this. u is for united, which we are
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not v is for vladimir, his election-year fight. w is for wishbone, thinking they had x is for xanax, which will all need real bad. y why for years. z is for his dad and better days to come. [applause] i will tell you about how the book came out. i did not plan to do at abc book. i had done a lot of sketches last year during the primary, especially the debates we had originally tried to get a book published under sketches in my book agent went around and this
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is still during the primaries. still understand that most people thought hillary was going to win the presidency, myself included. i just couldn't get any interest in it. people were already tired of it and of course they thought hillary was going to win. the feedback that i was getting from publishers as we would really like to see hillary book. i thought okay, i can try that, interest in the female president. i had this nagging feeling i couldn't get off the ground. i couldn't come up with something. of course the election happening and we all were surprised, most of us and i thought okay, obviously everybody will be interested in you'd be amazed how many didn't want to do a trump book, at least editorial cartooning tribe book. so i tried that for a while and then i put it aside and i have
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may take a road trip down to savanna during the holidays in between christmas and new year's. i had a nine hour drive down in a nine hour drive back and i was driving because my dog doesn't drive. i didn't have my hands-free to do a sketch is, but i was thinking about a suggestion my friend had given me which was to do a political abc book. since my hands weren't for half of my fellow non-and decided to recite. i kept doing not all the way down to savanna and all the way back up in that time i got back to d.c. i had a book. which was amazing. if any of your artists or do anything creatively, the hardest thing for me is to let go and let that happen. if you got something in your head. i had it in my head i would do a different book. once i let go of it and i just
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went with what was happening inside, it just came. that was a surprise. in a surprise and it took a few hours and did some sketching. then by chance i was giving a talk at the center in vermont, a wonderful little place if you've never been there driving through stop and look around and i was talking to jane stern, the cofounder of the college and i was telling him about my book you suddenly look at it and he looked at my sketches in a setup no pitcher in touch with demographics. i had an e-mail exchange with the publisher they are and it was great. it was like that of the other publishers. that is how the book came. basically this was done at the beginning of 2017. the artwork was finished by may.
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i was a little concerned it wouldn't hold up. there are some things obviously not in here, but it's held a because of everything going on. i'm pretty pleased with it. i'm happy i did it. if anybody has any questions, i would be happy to answer them. >> how has your image of trump changed? [inaudible] >> the question is how has my depiction of trump changed to now? he keeps on giving. i'm still playing with that tie. you know, i didn't really think of him as a joke too much in the
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beginning. the first song i ever did -- again a couple when he ran for president, which she's done a couple of times there were more joke like. but when he announced this time, i actually did one where he was saying me, me the whole time because it is all about and running for president. i think in terms of how he looks physically, and for me, caricatures and the more i listen to him and the more i realized that this is all about him, i think that is developed by caricature. and of course, the difference in the last couple years as i've gone back to actually doing colors by hand instead of on the computer. watercolor is a wonderful medium for accidents. i don't even know how to use watercolor, but it doesn't
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honor. [inaudible] [laughter] >> the question is an 18 hour trip today have any ideas that were anchored to abstain to do? >> probably, but i don't remember them. i'll have to go back in the same. it is amazing, except for a couple of letters are pretty much kept to this. the one i was going back and forth on with k. is for killing without any plan about obama cared because at that time they were in the middle of trying to kill it and i wasn't sure should i say they killed it, didn't come this way just said i think i'll try to kill it but they won't. so we will see. >> would you consider doing a
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sequel for his second, third, fourth year of the last that long? every day there's like some new crazy -- >> you are right. the only thing i want is the other things i want to address. aikido one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 book. is >> i had to make a decision obviously what i was going to do for each letter. there were certain things i wanted to make sure i got in there like separation of power in a hunt to include something about his appearance and his hair even though that's silly because they think you would notice if it wasn't in there. i wanted to hit specific things. using a was a deliberate thing
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on my part. this is something new. as you know i work for the post i had to ask, can i use that word? and i can tell you, they wouldn't have allowed me to use that in any other situation. but once the president says that, i'm allowed to use it and now i use it. [inaudible] >> separation of power? >> good point. guests. guests come here ready. i could do another book.
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[inaudible] >> the question is has trump reacted to any of my cartoons for months but not to say has he react to too many editorial cartoons? not that i know of and i think it's because the man doesn't read. he gets his information from television. we are not on television, so i think that is the reason he hasn't noticed us. there has been plenty of work out there that it's been pretty hard hitting against him from the editorial cartoons. i [inaudible] >> they're looking for ways not to make them mad. [inaudible] >> no, actually that is something they had to sell me on because i draw very large and i tend to want my work printed large. at first i thought it would be a
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bigger boat, but then i had a really great book designer and they both were telling me we need to do this book and i said i don't know. it is kind of some law. but the one i saw one i sighed and held it in my hands i thought yeah, this'll really work. i really pleased that convinced me to do it this way because they think it's perfect. i [inaudible] >> i draw about this large. you know, the reason i draw large is because my background is actually an art at ground. we were encouraged in our school during lunch writing classes to draw from the shoulder and not from the wrist. so i'm always doing this. i just feel i draw better larger. it takes more time, but i feel it does a better end product.
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>> yeah, i mean i'm really struck at how well it looks through the whole thing. i just wondered if that was hard , you tell us something new and back and forth about. >> the question was the reigning, saying that it worked well and was it hard to do? i am not a writer. maybe because i was in the car? i don't know. you've got a lot of time. i said a lot of things over and over. i'm sure my dog was going like this. i'm not a writer. i think because i was raised on dr. seuss books that might have helped me a little bit. it's not perfect, but it worked.
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[inaudible] >> is there a way that i tune out? i have to be honest with you. ever since trump became president, i just feel the need to draw. i have been drawing editorial cartoons now for 25 years. even though i did a lot of cartoons that criticized the bush administration. i didn't agree with the policy there. this is a completely different situation for me because it is a
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dangerous time and i wake up every morning just wanting to draw. i have to decide what i'm going to draw that is one thing i made a conscious effort to make sure there's a lot of silliness and beaten on social media, that tends to spiral out of control sometimes. i tried to make sure that i am criticizing actions and policy decisions and not just things like things he says. the things that have consequences. so i don't know if i'm more successful at that, but that's what i try to do. personally, i'm having trouble sleeping a lot lately because i'm thinking about it. that's the only thing i do try to stop as they don't tend to watch the evening news stuff. after the "pbs newshour" at top because then my mind is racing for the rest of the evening.
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that's the only personal struggle i have. [inaudible] >> word i see this ending? i think it's going to go on for a while. i really do. there is a short time after president i thought maybe this is going to be over quickly. but the problem is, and actually this is the stuff i do probably my most critical cartoons on is the republican leadership are the enablers. they are the reason we are still at this point because they have decided we will keep this man in office as long as he is useful to them. unfortunately, the way that trump operate, what he responds to and what he wants out of this will be a back-and-forth situation and we just have to roll along with it. unfortunately, i think it's going to take a while.
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>> a little more on the point you just made. i [inaudible] it must be tempting to hop onto this nuttiness -- [inaudible] so how do you find a way to make a visual? >> ask him exactly. the question is about how do you decide the important issues to take on rather than what i talked about before. yeah, i take a lot of notes because like i said, it's really question what am i going to address today? i make sure to keep the ones that might be able to come back to later.
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it is more difficult to do an editorial cartoon about a more complicated thing. the environmental protection agency is a great example. they are gutting it and people will not realize, you know, people won't realize that affects them until they turn the faucet on and realized they have dirty water. so i try to make sure i address those things you do like you said, when people, especially tv talking about the recent silliness, that is what people are paying attention to. >> are there others in the administration that are recognizable -- [inaudible] >> i love driving patterns. [inaudible] one of those examples that i
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think my character doesn't look like him, but it is him. i've done sarah huckabee. she's interesting. there's a lot of good characters in this administration. there he is. [inaudible] yeah, huckabee is. grabbing their ego. she's back there. and this is interesting. >> that was the last thing i put in the book would not have been. it was funny. this spread kept getting more and more people in it and i was so thankful when scared that she dropped out because i was like
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where am i going to put him and they just didn't care that was like thank you. >> thank you for ending on a positive note. >> it was an intentional. it's funny i had a close friend i showed it to her when i first got it but she was reading through it just like you ended it on a positive note. that is not you. i said yeah, it is hard, but whatever i can to do, zebra or z. [inaudible] >> sure, yeah, okay. well, you know who that is. so these are just generic businessman. and that is a generic term person. this is actually an image i remembered from a post article.
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everybody talks about fake news now and the way that trump is fake news. in the beginning, there is actual countries where they had teenagers writing fake news, which ended up on facebook where people got all their news from. that was this image. okay, so we have just the one and, trump, charlottesville, huckabee, spicer, mcconnell, speaker ryan. kellyanne. remember ben and? and this one is hard to see. it is call me. the reason i stuck him in here is because this was just the kind he came out and got fired and never once said he is a hero. we fail to remember that he's the one who decided to announce that he was reopening the investigation into hillary. that's the reason i stuck half of him and mary.
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think -- [inaudible] and as the latter going to -- it feels strong -- [inaudible] >> you think my drawings are funny? really? [inaudible] >> no, i do the republicans as evil. >> has that affected how you draw him? >> no. i think he's an opportunist deep down. i think he's got a lot of fault. he's an opportunist in the worst sense. who say anything to get what he wants. but he's got a lot of people around him enabling him to do that. let's face it. how old is he? a 71-year-old man.
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that is him. >> yes, i think you draw them as disgusting and does he make them blotchy air and blotchy air, he gets more and more disgusting. >> i've been told i draw him disgusting. i did make him more and more blotchy. do i have to explain not? [laughter] [inaudible] >> no, i run it by them. >> no.
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i mean, they've always let me decide what i want to do it on. you know, they've mixed a few things. around the time of the charlottesville protest in the killing, i came up with some idea that they would allow me to do. i think they were concerned about the tenor of the country. i think if i offered that idea and the other time it probably would've gone through. they've got a think about that. [inaudible] >> no, i'm not syndicated. an exclusive to the "washington post." i do other work for the next occasionally. yes, they have the first right. i [inaudible] they ran it.
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[inaudible] all cartoonists get threatened at some point or another. you know, depending what is happening at the time, after 9/11 was a difficult time. some of you might have heard i did a cartoon about senator cruz and i got a lot of threat or that. so yeah, when everybody's emotions are running high as when you get the most. but mostly we get e-mails telling us how we are. i [inaudible] >> okay, the question was how i
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was watching the thomas hearing in 1991. i was a young woman, in my 20s and i had dealt with sexual harassment myself and i knew perfectly well that it was a problem and to watch a bunch of senators oftheir those conservatives, liberals , it couldn't possibly have happened and they didn't believe in need of help. i decided i needed to become a editorial cartoonist so you can think of those senators for the reason i'm an editorial cartoonist. >> . [inaudible] >> how the media movement is going to affect the election. let's hope so. i hope so. women are mad. i my friends at my age and their man . and i hope so because i think it's about time.
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you know, it's funny to hear people talk about sexual harassment and other forms of sexual discrimination. there's all forms. i don't myself with my entire career. i laugh when i hear people expressed doubt about it. every woman has gone through it in one way or another. it's not all rape but it's definitely mild forms of assault. i'm going to give you a personal thing i've never told publicly anywhere. so i'm in my 50s. when i just turned 50 i was walking down the streets of washington dc in broad daylight. i had a guy come up behind me and grab me like grabspeople, in broad daylight. i'm not a young woman . and i was floored. and to deal with police after that, they spent two female
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policeman, took down everything and did nothing. i was furious. that's just unacceptable and this was some 30 something-year-old guy thinking he can do it. it's a problem. and it's not just for young women, it's for older women to get there, now i'm really mad. [laughter] [inaudible] i'm going west, yes. i'm going to first start in la, i have a book signing there and then i will go be going to san francisco, oakland and the reason i'm smiling is because a lot of my old colleagues work there. and then i'll also finish up at santa fe. in february, soif you are out west, columbine . thanks so much for coming out.
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[applause] >> here's a look at some of the current best-selling nonfiction books according to publishers weekly. topping the list, ire and fury, michael wolf's exposc on the trump white house. next clinical psychologist jordan peterson sells 12 rules for life and james patterson explores the case of the late professional football player aaron hernandez, convicted of first-degree murder in an all-american murder. after that it's rising time, business advice from damon john followed by melissa hartwig's hole 30 fast and easy cookbook. our look at some of the best-selling books according to publishers weekly continues with neil degrasse tyson's research on the universe in astrophysics for people in a hurry. then it's walter isaacson's
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biography of leonardo da vinci followed by anxious for nothing. advice on managing anxiety. after that, investment and entrepreneur ray dahlia offers life and business tips in principles and wrapping up our look at some of the books from publishers weekly's nonfiction bestsellers list is retired admiral 2015 graduation speech at university of texas, makeyour best. many of these authors have appeared on tv. watch them at our website, booktv.org . >> often in our lives the illusion of information is actually far more dangerous than ignorance . so the way trust will put this, this is a gentleman called diego, he'll say that trust has two enemies, not one. the first is bad character and the second is for information . the question i started to ask myself in my research was how
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can technology address these problems. these technology making us smarter about who we trust or is it encouraging us to place our trust in the wrong people in the wrong places. so are we in fact giving our trust away to the wrong things and is technology playing a role in that? why i think this is such an important question is let's do a quick exercise and you can see where this is going. i'm going to give you a boo, it's going to sought sound loud in this church and you can use that for the person you think is the least trustworthy. so when i say the name you boot if you think that's, you get one boot. if you think harvey weinstein is the least trustworthy person on this slide, cebu now. one boot. if you think president trump is the least trustworthy person on this slide, say it now.
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now, i don't know if you know who this is, this is sophia the robot and she is the first robot that has citizens it. she's been made a citizen of saudi arabia. if you think the yacht is the least trustworthy person on the slide, cebu now. so the robot is more trustworthy and the president of the united states but you don't need to worry about that right now. do this in reverse. now you can clap. so i'd like you to class for the company you think is the most trustworthy. if you think google is the most trustworthy company on theslide, clap now. >> . [applause] >> facebook, who thinks facebook is the most trustworthy company on the slide. >> no one, okay. amazon. now, i think amazon and google were i don't know, maybe amazon is slightly ahead but it says here it's an exercise but i made him do
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it because i thought that one of you might say to me rachel, trust them to do what? and this is a really important point and it's something that i find very hard when i open up a newspaper or i listen to the media that the way we're talking about trust is a very general term. it's very dangerous. because you know, we can trust that president trump will to something ridiculous at 3 am.we don't trust him to negotiate with north korea. we can trust even harvey weinstein to make great movies but we don't trust his behavior necessarily around women. amazon is interesting. when people i think when they say that they trust amazon, they say that they have confidence that when they can
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order online, their order will show up but that doesn't necessarily trust them to pay taxes or to treat their employees well. this is the first thing that i would like you to think about is when we're talking about trust to keep in mind that in our own lives, but also when we're talking about institutions and leaders and individuals, but trust is highly contextual. you can trust me hopefully to write an article or to teach students, to not get in the car with me because i'm a terrible driver. >> watch this and other programs online at booktv.org. >>. [inaudible conversation] >> good evening ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the kansas city public library. director of the public library and tonight we have the baby daily globe professor of history at the university of north carolina,
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