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as it takes. as a writing teacher i have repeated that statement to two generations of students. if they are writers they will never forget it. it can take a lifetime. thank you so much. [applause]. >> you can watch this and other programs on my netbook tv.org. book tv.org. [inaudible conversations] >> all right, everyone, can you hear me back there? good evening and welcome to kramer book. a reminder to silence your cell phones before we begin and if anyone is standing in the back was to grab a seat there are more couple chairs here if you would like. to date we are fortunate with us mr. reid wilson
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with you to speak about his new book "epidemic". it addresses that you bola crisis. a catastrophe narrowly averted that struck over 20000 people he killed over allows it-- 11000 people with an increasingly interconnected world where everyone is just one or two fights away for major city like new york city, beijing and london even a local epidemic can end up becoming the global pandemic. mr. wilson's book tells the story about how the deadly ebola virus spread out of control and cautions the world was woefully unprepared for the next epidemic. he's a national correspondent for the hell covering politics campaigns and elections and former writer for the "washington post" and former editor-in-chief for the national journal of the hotline. we are pleased to have it with us today in his books are available for purchase in the bookstore and after that he met his over he will be up here for
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autographs. please let me welcome him. [applause]. >> thank you very much. it's a thrill to be here. i usually spend most of my time talking about politics with a lot of people in this room who i end up bothering all day so it's nice to talk about something different. i want to start by talking about why i tackled this particular topic. we live in a moment that is extremely partisan and in a moment that in this country and around the world we are deeply divided and distrustful of our government and our institutions and we are deeply skeptical about each other. i spend my entire day write about this a sort of partisanship in america's divided within itself, but this is a story of governments and at least the american government that really worked well together and it worked in a way that
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saves hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of lives, worked well with people of all races, religions and put ideologies to come together and try to solve what could've been one of the great catastrophes of our time. in writing this book i spent a lot of time talking to ron maclean that ebola is our in the obama administration and he told me the story of a moment in february, 2015, when the president -- president obama invited responders, people who responded to the ebola virus to the white house to thank them for their work and there are some people in this room that were at that event back in february. brett, i think he called you out by name. what ron tommy was after that event they went back to the old executive office building where the eboal team had their offices and they sat down with the survivors of the americans who had survived the ebola virus and sort of started talking and ron and
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gayle smith who ran a lot of the response for the national security council told me they looked around the room and they saw kent brantley who is this deeply conservative evangelical who had worked for samaritans first and was a doctor and contracted the virus and kent brantley was sitting next to craig spencer this hipster liberal from new york whose doctor without borders and had worked in guinea pig they were sitting next to nina pham who's an asian-american nurse that treated a guide in dallas and her colleague amber who was an african american nurse and cancer brett weighs colleague an older woman who worked in liberia and they were struck by this a deep diversity of america and the best of america that was sitting there around them who had all run towards this disaster at a time when so many other people were running away. that moved them to tears
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and it moved me, also. there's a lot of stuff in this book that really got to me and i ended a lot of chapters sort of with misty eyes and inspired me to keep on moving. this is a story with a million heroes, with people who ran towards the disaster when everyone else in their right mind probably would've ran away. it's a story about people in west africa who even the best educated among them who could have very easily left their countries, come here, come to europe and built happy and successful lives in a safer environment, but they didn't. they stayed in their home countries to try to make a better. they built up with the help as best they could they build up whatever they could contribute and in talking to some a people who responded to that, it struck me that
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this is just the good story with a lot of people who tell the best of humanity and i want to read a little bit about one of those people. he is an epidemiologist in the row via and he spent a lot of his time as a contact chaser, one of the basic jobs someone does to try to stop an outbreak and roll it back to basically find everyone who came into contact with someone with the virus so you can surveillance them to make sure the byron's doesn't spread to another generation. he is a big man in his big-- mid 40s and his friends described him as a man with a loud laugh and kind face. raised in monroe via slums with names like west point and chicken soup factory won a scholarship to study at harvard where he became an epidemiologist and immunologists. 's international
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connections allowed him to speak comfortably before donors at the worlds most important non- governmental organization to his own government ministers and officials from the united states and europe and was equally comfortable in monroe via speaking to a mother living in a ramshackle hodgepodge whose son might have ebola. as ebola raged around if all of the teams into the neighborhood where he had gone up. 's teams found countless ebola victims and countless more potential cases, sometimes as in the case of the young mother he had to employ a special touch. the mother within west point, one of liberia's impoverished areas and refused to tell anyway who arrived in their fright in space where her 8-year old child had gone. the boy had come into contact with a neighbor who had ebola putting him at high risk for catching the disease, but his curious neighbors gathered around them and in space suits of the mother's anxiety-- anxiety roasted if the mother-- if the boy had ebola the family would be shunned
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forcing them out of their homes next a he arrived and parked his car far away from the mother's house so neighbors would not see and off he brought with him was lunch. while they eat they talk. the mother said her son's father was abusive and rarely present. when he appeared he would take his son out. if the mother objective he would be her-- she was beaten, excuse me. she had taken the risk of reporting her son's contact with a ebola patient. reports she denied making the day before. the boy's father had come for one of his occasional visits. if he knew the boy's mother included their son on the contact list the beating would be especially severe. the only way she could find her son was to hire a motorbike taxi which she had no money. he dug in his pocket and produced a bill. she recoiled, no one in the slums had a chris built. if the money in her pocket was not dirty her neighbors would know something was amiss. he crinkled the bill and rubbed it on his close, anything to give it a well-worn book.
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still, the mother rejected. finally, he walked to a nearby market, but something small and exchanged his newer bill for the old ratty currency that's a collated in the slums and the mother sped off on the back of the taxi. the next day they found her son back in her home. this is report, the ability to speak to a vulnerable women. anthropology is as important as statistics and understanding individual is as important as counting them. i love that story and i love so many people in whether it was liberia or guinea or sierra leone who stepped up in some kind of way at great personal peril to themselves and a lot of them died. this story has a lot of characters who don't make it to the end. there are some of the other subplots in the story and a lot of it is about the american response, international response that helped
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bring this virus to bear and those little subplots show, i think, the complexity of responded to an outbreak of this magnitude. the first is that the little story i just love is about obama phones. anyone remember that internet conspiracy that president obama was giving out free phones to poor people and giving them all free things? turns out it's kind of true in a way and the way is that the centers for disease control and prevention and the department of homeland security and a bunch of other agencies tsa, people like that, custom and border protection's were trying to figure out a way to track the people from west africa who had come back to this country. they needed to keep tabs on import 21 days to make sure the incubation. of virus to make sure they didn't show up with the virus as some help organization, some health center that was not ready for it.
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how do you do that with someone who has a cell phone that doesn't have the right stem card that works in the us? turns out you give them a bone or phone that comes from literally came from walmart in this case. the cdc foundation went former, but thousands of these phones and distributed them to everyone who came into the us from liberia, sierra leone and guinea and effectively kept track of them for the next three weeks. that brought a really good response rate of about 75% of people we were able to keep track of, up to about 98 or 99% of the folks we were able to keep track. a small little moment in which an internet can fiercely actually may have helped curtail the ebola virus in the us. that notion of the cdc foundation leads to the second point, which is how do we spend money fast enough at a moment when you have an outbreak that is burning through thousands of
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cases, at least hundreds of cases a week, thousands of cases any month, how do you allocate your resources in a way that is going to adequately fight this you are not going to through a government contracting process because that takes forever and months alert-- convocation with soliciting bids and things like that so you have to work around the system a bit and that's what the cdc foundation was set up to do. there was a private affiliate of the actual center for disease control and prevention that accept large gifts from groups like pharmaceutical companies and eli lilly and people like that and the gates foundation and paul allen foundation and they were able to spend a lot of money on things that were needed really quick. there were moments when someone would make a request for funding for a new computer system or a training for people that would knock on doors around specific city morning and they would have their money by the afternoon and it
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was really revolutionizing the way people responded to this outbreak. the allen-- paul allen was asked to give a large chunk of change to fund a big emergency operation center in one of the three countries that was impacted most by the ebola outbreak and he said no, he would not do that that he would find all three. ran over by about $3 million and he apologized profusely and said you can still build two of them he said no, i will build all three and he wrote the extra check. mark zuckerberg a money, possibly earn from cambridge analytica. [laughter] too soon? too soon. it went to buy 206 toyota pickups that they ended up using as the ambulance across all three countries. they bought so many pickups that toyota had to make an extra shipment into monroe via ma actually airlifted some in to get them there faster.
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a lot of other people brought in 400-- spend the money to buy 400 motorcycles that brought a whole bunch of blood supply from places-- samples where people had been tested for evil to the labs sooner. that's all the optimistic stuff, but this is not a told optimistic story because as i mentioned in the beginning the next outbreak is coming your kits not a matter of if, but when. that's because of three sort of main factors. the world is changing fundamentally. climate change is expanding in the tropics and subtopics, basically the area where these tropical viruses ester is larger than it's ever been before and it will only get bigger. civilization is expanding. human settlements are expanding more into nature into areas they never been before. sort of this battle between nature and humans and neither is
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really prepared to win in the long run. and a middle-class in asia and africa needs that there are more people traveling than have ever traveled before, which gives viruses more vectors to ask a get to a place where they can infect a large number of people. .. >> to get ebola you have to touch the depth of somebody who's been infected so difficult yet. easily transmissible through a common mosquito but it's not fatal, the mortality rate is infinitesimally low. it only affects fetuses and the very young.
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what happens when something with high mortality becomes highly transmissible? that something could be something like the flu. the next big outbreak could be a virus from central africa, a blue from a bird market in china and right now there is in fact a flu circulating in china, fortunately it's not terribly transmissible. you heard of h1n1, those were the strains so bad in this flu season but the next one that worries public health officials is called eight h7n9. if mortality is 35 percent in the cases that have come out. the spanish that killed somewhere between 40 and 100 million people in the early part of the 20th century had a mortality rate of 2.5 percent. this is a deadly flu. the good news is it's not that easily transmissible. the bad news is it's not that
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easily transmissible yet. all these viruses are small and when they replicate, they have a high chance of mutating in some way and that mutation could make it more deadly or less deadly, more transmissible or less transmissible, more likely a different kind of species and we are all just a bunch away from the next really scary outbreak. so the question ultimately is will we be ready? will we spend the millions now on prevention and detection avoid spending the billions or even trillions later on treatment and recovery? and of course as i came across this fascinating guide
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from the public health official from the early part of the 20th century named herman bates, he ran the health system and he wrote how much help is purchasable? within natural limitation, any community can determine its own death rate. we are doing a bad job determining our own death rates . we are not spending the money necessary on operations effectively to build up the kinds of virus prevention, virus fighting bodies that we need around the world because the global public health system is only as strong as its weakest link . e bola or zika or the flu don't know anything about international borders and no travel ban isgoing to stop some kind of virus from getting back into the us . i should mention when the obama white house went back in analysis and tried to figure out when the evil outbreak seeped into the american consciousness, as a scary thing, they pointed to august 1 2014 when somebody tweeted about the evil outbreak and the people coming back and how they shouldn't be allowed back into the us, he said it was
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great they were able to go over there but they should be consequences. you can guess the person that tweeted that was. by the way, that has been retweeted something like 40,000 times but that moment was a moment where the us started to grasp. we sort of forget what 2014 was life with new cycles so crazy. we also forget in the middle of 2014 not only was the ebola virus raising, there was a murderous gang of thugs called the islamic state that were running rampant over the second largest city. it was a scary time and that was the one moment that codified all of that. the question in the future is will we act to stop this worldwide? will we spend the money on the world health organization that they have desperately requested and demanded? they arein all of this is true that the international governments have failed to fully fund them and even the us commitment has stayed at
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pretty low levels. that is not something that has happened under only one president. there's democrats and republicans who have both to fully fund who or keep up with the money that's needed, funded the disease control and prevention centers. the money that came through the ebola supplemental bill, especially for disease surveillance in a lot of these countries runs out next year and the cdc has said they will have to pull out of 39 of 49 countries that are conducting this disease detection if that money is not replaced. the mill lives we spend now save billions down the road. i'm not entirely certain we are anywhere near the political will necessary to spend that money and make that effort so with that i'm going to stop and i'll be happy to answer any questions . good, i didn't go too far over time. i appreciate it. [applause] any questions? >> so you wrote but about the
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time lapse between when the first patient zero was and when they figure that out two months or so later. and there's like obviously the stigma associated with going and one reporting that you have a family member or you yourself have the symptoms. did you as you were interviewing people who either had passed away and/or were associated with first responders, did you find that stigma also continue to resonate past the outreach? that no one wanted to open up there about their experience because they felt they would be stigmatized within their community and/or within the profession. >> question for those of you who might not hurt, was there a stigma e bola and did that stigma continue past the actual outbreak and absolutely, there are, there were campaigns, mounted by the governments and even the us government inthe form of
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national governments , international bodies like the world bank and the imf, they once some efforts to sort of reintegrate survivorsinto the community, to take away the stigma, to say because somebody hassurvived, they're not going to get it again, they don't have ebola . you don't have to be afraid to employ them , anything like that. and that the is self inflicted, notself-inflicted , that's the wrong phrase but it exists in one on hand too. two of the american survivors, i was down at cdc doing interviews and i ran into nancy reichhold, the nurse from samaritans purse and i said hello to her. i was going to cdc the next day and i said can we talk about this and she said yes . we never ended up connecting the cause or a number of reasons but i later talked to greg spencer, the doctor in new york and he eventually declined to talk to me for the book because he said it was too fresh. evil that creates serious
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aftereffects. it attacks the joints, it attacks the brain.it leaves people with massive depression and terrifying dreams and it screws up people's eyeballs and their vision for the rest of their lives and it causes some deep andlasting scars so craig told me he understood why none of the rest wanted to talk to me because even then, even a year and a half after he had recovered it was way too fresh . i should talk to him just the other day going back and forth and he's still not sure he wants to talk caused the stars are that the andthat fresh but the stigma absolutely existed in all three countries . long after the virus left and the part of the government response was an effort to reintegrate those who have survived back into society >> . >> to go back to your beginning and, i'm wondering
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if you coulddiscuss a little bit about some of the lessons you draw from that in particular, how the us could do more to support community health workers . there's an enormous deficit of frontline health workers, that makes it much more vulnerable and that's not necessary and i just also to draw your attention to other detection disease epidemics that are ongoing cannot be quite as fresh or fast-moving is ebola but if you take tuberculosis for instance, every three days killing as many people as has killed in the entire evil epidemic. and actually,xdr , , the mortality rate is about 80 percent. and you can live with it for a year or two or more. and transmitting the whole time. there is a situation in minnesota where there's a gentleman who has and the rtd and has had for five years and has developed tb after
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being contracted with him. so it's an enormousproblem . so to answer the question for those who couldn't hear it, how does the us go about supporting more frontline health workers and that is an evolution that i think is ongoing. one of the things that's really left out to me is that the centers for disease control and prevention used about themselves on the back or being able to deploy a dozen or two dozen people to combat some outbreak somewhere in the world. in the course of this outbreak is deployed more than 1400 people. the cdc has changed the way it sees itself and its role in the world. there's a fascinating thing that some of the ngos described doing. there was a long pending sort of rivalry, i think is a fair way to describe between the public health community, the cdc types and the disaster response teams like usaid and
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in a lot of cases, they thought they were doing different things. they didn't communicate or talk and through the course of this outbreak, the two of them worked well together and closely together and they wrote down a lot of those walls. and now usaid and cdc how much better working relationship that will hopefully lead to their deployment, better understanding of public health disasters, whether it's something like tv that's slowly moving or something as quickly moving as e bola. right now cdc is warning about a yellow fever outbreak . so they have both agencies i think have gone through a fundamental shift in how they think about the world and how they think about working together. the world health organization two has made some serious changes in the way they have approached fighting viruses and fighting outbreaks of a lot of times. they have collapsed a lot of their bureaucracy in hopes of streamlining things that were
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hopelessly barred in red tape. and they have a lot of work to do and they will be the first to acknowledge that they have a lot of work to do. i've never seen a public agency decides itself as much as who has over the long run but how do you support the frontline workers? you spend the money on them. you save the money now to spend billions later. it's the least successful thing in all of politics. what is the easiest thing to cut? foreign aid. hourly spending so much money on these doctors and other countries, they stand up for themselves? they can and if we don't do something aboutthat they are, whatever virus breaks out in the country will come here eventually . >> i'm curious to have your take on the impact of several federal consciousness. the response to these . so to what extent does federal consciousness and the public in the us impact the
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actual response? given that as you said all these agencies rallied together, pulled the funding and said people already in the field respond to the outbreak. >> the question is how did the american public consciousness in america outbreak or bolster it. and in a lot of cases, this is actually an important lesson that i think the obama administration learn and they apply even before they left office. the, every presidential administration takes its cues from the cast so they learn from the president himself and the last president was no drama obama. he was cool, calm, collected. he was in charge and that's the way he conveyed the fact that he was in charge. the fact is that i think the american public in a lot of ways saw that as being too hands-off on a really scary, terrifying prices.
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whether it was the islamic state or e bola. what people perceive that the lack of engagement was actually the president trying to convey confidence in a response and the administration learned lessons from that and apply it to the zika outbreak. zika broke out before ebola was contained in the obama administration was much more proactive, much more publicly proactive. they were proactive on e bola too but much more proactive talk about what they were doing then the government had been settled and worked out. but at the beginning of the outbreak, we didn't pay a lot of attention . the world health organization formally acknowledged that evil was present in guinea four years ago this week. it was included that day and president obama's daily presidential security briefing and we at the cdc, i
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keep saying we, you know what i mean. cdc and other groups darted to send a few people over, deployed a few teams in the area but it didn't pop in the public consciousness until july and august. one of the scary moments for a lot of the ngos was when the peace corps decided to pull out of liberia. early on. >> and ginny and apparently the peace corps has a reputation for being the last people to pull out of anywhere so you things you know things are bad. but point, the americans response started to ramp up. there were millions of dollars spent virtually every day, there was a new allocation of money through august 2014 when this was becoming a part of american consciousness and in september the obama administration decided to send 3000 american troopsfrom
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the hundred first airborne into liberia and i should say by the way, there's a weird sense . we got lucky that the world got lucky. this outbreak happened where it did. the united states created liberia. the uk has a very close relationship with sierra leone. if this had happened, let's say it a different way. when 3000 american troops showed up in liberia was hailed as a blessing to get the approval rating in liberia is something like 99 percent, they absolutely love us. imagine if this had happened in pakistan or indonesia or even in other parts of africa, democratic republic of the congo. that reaction would not have been the same as the hundred first would have had to fight its way in before it was able to do anything. so in a weird and sad, perverse way we got lucky that it happened in a place that was so close to what you call the fantasy coalition telling game. fantasy building coalition, whatever.
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i got those words right eventually but you know what i mean. >> with the who, what was the main theme of the region? >> i elaborate on what was the main failure of the who and i am critical in the book although to their credit they don't a remarkable round of trying to figure out what went wrong and trying to make things right. the who is a strange organization. people assume that the who is the organization that responds to a crisis and sends in doctors and it sends and supplies and equipment but the fact is they really don't. who was created in the wake of world war ii in an effort to pressure countries to self report outbreaks so that through shame, essentially. who could declare an outbreak in a country that would be bad publicity and operate in ways that would contain the
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outbreak but thefact is , who as a director on each of the six populated continents. that director is chosen by the health ministers of the countries within those consonants so effectively the director of africa programs who lived in congo 2500 miles away from west africa was a patron of the health ministers in the country. back in geneva where who is, the bureaucracy had built up over here so that they effectively couldn't move things as fast as possible. they didn't have the funding to move things have passed as they possibly could and at the end of the day, this is an agency that was not prepared. they did not have doctors who had volunteered to go into a fight the way, say, doctors
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without borders did or the cdc, us public health service which is an organization that i barely knew about before writing this book. they simply -- the world expected them to be there and they just work the bureaucracy was too big . the lists that were necessary to begin a response were not there and they themselves dragged their feet. when doctors without borders raised the alarm about ebola crisis in west africa and cautioned them this could become a significantoutbreak, the chief spokesman mocked them on twitter and that we is still up . i find it pretty remarkable . so in the forward-looking positive sense, they have done a lot to build those lists, to be in a position to respond well the next time and hopefully they will actually do that margaret chan, the now former director
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of who on her way out the door gave a speech to donor countries and said you expect us to be there but we can't do any of this if we don't have the properfunding. she was pointing a finger at every country around the world including the united states . anybody else? >> could you talk a little bit about, i remember there's a situation in new jersey with the nurse and the other sort of domestic political things that were going on. did any of those affect the response or was that all of domestic consumption chatter? >> the question was how did the politics of the moment, and it got ugly the time, impact the actual response itself? one way it impacted the response was republicans put a lot of pressure on the obama administration to do
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something quickly, like say appointing a single person who would oversee the ebola response. the options that two republicans -- was it john boone and frankel? two republicans offered. colin powell, bob gates who had written a scathing anti-obama book and mike levin who was a former hhs secretary who was running the mitt romney's transition campaign or transition during the 2012 campaign. the obama administration said thanks but no thanks to those three names and ended up picking ron klein who was closer to the fold i think. the domestic politics though , was the thing that got people's attention the most was the call for quarantines and call for a travel ban and the quarantines you referenced in new jersey when a young nurse named casey hickox spent an exhausting day flying back from west africa on her last day there, she had sat and watched the
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child die in this treatment ward that she was in. her story is just absolutely horrifying. the way they kept track of people was by counting the people who didn't die because it was easier than counting the people who did. and this treatment ward. she came back to new jersey , she showed up at the customs and border patrol, told them she had been in west africa she was shuddered off to a separate room where she was or their screen by officials and they eventually found she had an elevated temperature. and the thing that she maintains is that she was flushed and yes, that's what gave her the elevated temperature. she was taken to a hospital near the newark airport. put in quarantine and attend, notin the hospital, and a can't . with teacher windows, governor chris christie of new jersey who really did not respond to evil is terribly well, and governor andrew
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cuomo of new york ordered that anybody coming back west africa be quarantined for 21 days despite the fact that he was traveling back to maine. she had no or pressure campaign. she wrote an op-ed in the dallas morning news, call into cnn a few times which is handy because apparently a friend of hers new producer cnn and basically said she had been kept prisoner because she had gone over to help in a situation that demanded the health and chris christie diagnose her from afar and never met her. then she was obviously sick . she never got the evil of virus. went so far as to brag about it on stage during one of the republican debate couple days before he dropped out. but it was a moment when there were a lot of people callingfor travel ban that virtually any public health official will tell you is
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exactly the wrong message to send . sierra leone and new guinea could not have stopped the outbreak on their own. theonly people who could have going to come from outside, from europe, from the us. the african union doctors did a remarkable amount . of the outbreak. but how do you get those people there if there are travel bands around the world? wrong idea, it's a good thing that policymakers never implemented it. >> yes sir. >>. >> can you quantify politically, one percent? did thom tillis win in north carolina if there was never an ebola outbreak? [inaudible] >> the governor of maine was reelected. >> a good point, when casey had gone to new jersey and went back to maine, the governor of maine was pulling far behind you was a three-way race . the third candidate was
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actually doing okay that had 10 or 15 percent, dropped out of the race and endorsed a democrat because they the invalid governor somuch. governor caps , friday casey under quarantine back in her home in maine. they said that you, no thank you and took a bike ride with her partner in a very public show of defiance and governor of maine was reelected, you're right. politics one a second term and no smart ballpark, in some part because of the evil outbreak.you know, whether or not there were, well look, 2014 was a bad year for democrats. it was going to be a bad year for democrats anyway and whether it was because thom tillis ran an anti-people add and is race, i would recall there was a candidate in michigan who ran an evil lad. she lost her race for
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reelection. she lost her race for election to the incumbent democrat. there was a one candidate who ran an ad critical of republicans for voting to cut funding that was senator mark fire in arkansas. you must by 17, is that right? four, more than 17. south of 40, there we go. but the political conversation was entirely negative. it was entirely republicans going after incumbent democrats with the exception of mark prior who wasn't going to win anyway. he didn't lose because of bola, he lost because of arkansas. we have time for one more. >> what do you know about the trump administration? [inaudible] if the ebola outbreak happened under president, how they handle
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it? >> out with the trump administration handle and outbreak now? he would tweet it. he already has tweeted, i'm sure. fortunately he has a better base than previous presidents have. the cdc knows what it's doing. the global system is getting better. but what the president create a evil as are like the last one day? who would that person be? i'm not entirely sure but let's hope it doesn't come to that. the fact is, throughout its entire history, the cdc has been underfunded and are efforts to fund global health and pandemic valence have been woefullyunderfunded . under republican administrations, democratic administrations . the evil of supplemental that came out after the midterms in 2014 was one of these
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bills they really wanted to pass quickly. the parties that came together to do it made sure it was not a christmas tree bill like something everybody their favorite amendments on but there was one sort of earmark that was offered by tom harkin, the then outgoing senator from arkansas who put a lot of money into the evil of supplemental buildup public health capacity in versions of the cdc and a lot of other countries. that money is now running out . will this congress do anything about it? will the democratic congress do anything about it? the impetus for, this is the hardest vote in politics. running now on prevention, even if it's only a fraction of what you spend on recovery is a lot more difficult than sending this all thedisaster . so with that, i think i'll stop and i'll be happy to answer any questions later but thank you for coming, i appreciate it. [applause]
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