attkisson. and we wrap up our prime time programming at 11 with former secretary of state condoleezza rice and stanford's amy sue getter discussing global insecurity and the future of american diplomacy. that all happens tonight on c-span2's booktv, 48 hours of nonfiction or authors and books every weekend. television for serious readers. [inaudible conversations] >> hello, everybody. welcome. i'm marjorie schuster, i'm with the stryker center. tonight we have jonathan weisman who is the congressional editor and deputy washington editor at the new york times. his previous novel is called "number 4 imperial lane," and the book we're speaking about tonight is "semitism: being screw in the age of trump." -- being jewish in the age of

trump." washington post, "wall street journal" and "the new york times" where he's covered congress for presidential campaigns, the war on afghanistan and the obama white house. after the event we're going to distribute books, and he's graciously agreed to sign everybody's book, so we'll sort of go out there to the right. he's going to speak on this fascinating subject, and then we're going to open it up to the audience. so there's be a lot of dialogue, a lot of q&a back and forth. mr. weisman. >> thank you. [applause] good evening, everyone. my name is jonathan weisman. you probably know that. you bought your tickets or you came here, made your way after last week's snow day. but i say my name because it has sop meaning that i never -- some meaning that i never really thought thought about. it sounds jewish. [laughter] for most of my life, i didn't think very much about that, that i had a jewish-sounding name. i grew up in a moderately jewish

household in atlanta. i grew up in a very reformed synagogue. i was bar miss9 v.a.d -- bar miss sad after the -- [inaudible] i thought it was normal that my -- had an electric arc, that the door came down and the lights came on. and we also had a christian choir that was ensconced behind curtains so it would sound that much more angelic. i went off to chicago for college, and the only interaction i ever had with hillal at northwestern was an argument my senior year with the rabbi over the two-state solution versus the canton solution. i'm not going to go over that right now because, as i say in my book, i think jews in the united states discuss israel way too much. [laughter] i did insist that i my children would be raised jewish. when i married my college girlfriend way, way too young. and as you might have guessed,

she wasn't jewish. she was, in fact, the daughter of a lapsed catholic turned pentacostalist. my mother-in-law used to ask me what i would call somebody who followed all the tenets of my religion but took jesus as their savior, and i said i called them a christian, and that always disappointed her. [laughter] when my daughters were born, more than ten years later -- sorry, when we were being married, i insisted we raise our children jewish, but they were born, like, 10, 12 years later, and my wife at the time felt like she would feel like an alien in her own house if she was the only non-jew there. and, you know, i didn't hold her to a promise that she made really as a child. so we raised them nothing. now, actually my daughter told me that i should mention that through her own force of will my younger daughter did insist on a

jewish education, and although she got it a little belatedly, i will say that it was not too late. i say none of this with any pride. in fact, i say it with a little shame. but my point is this: i was a pretty typical jew of my generation, and that means not particularly jewish at all. until i was. and it was all because of that name, weisman. in may of 2016, donald trump was marauding through the republican primaries. somehow the republican -- [inaudible] in washington thought they were going to stop him from getting the nomination from some ex machina that never manifested itself. at the time, robert reagan -- a -- robert kagan wrote a column called this is how fascism comes to america. and as i did often, i took a snippet, i put it onto twitter,

and i sent it out into the world. i got an odd reply back from somebody who called himself cyber trump. it just said hello, weisman, that's it. except the weisman was in three parentheses. i didn't know what it meant. i intuited it had some some kind of meaning, so i said care to explain, and he came back -- [inaudible] i have, if a dog whistled fool, i have belled the cat for my fellow goian. and then the onslaught began. and let me explain what belling the cat meant. i didn't know this at the time. i came to know it later. unbeknownst to me, an enterprising member of the alt-right -- their name, not mine -- that strange conglomeration of racists, anti-semites, white nationalists

and america firsters had created a piece of software that you could get on google. it had the bland name of the coincidence indicator so it wouldn't rise to google's notice. but if you downloaded the coincidence indicator, you could surgery for jews to -- search for jews to go after. google searches don't pick up punctuation marks. i don't know if you knew that, i didn't know that. but if you have the coincidence indicator, you could go for one particular set of punctuation marks with these three parentheses. they called them echoeses, by the way. a leader of the alt-right named andrew eglin who happens to be the very malicious editor of the daily stormer, a neo-nazi site, decided that he would slap these parentheses on jewish targets, mostly jewish journalists at the time, and then his minions could search and destroyment -- destroy. so i was certainly not the only

one. there were dozens of jewish journalists who were belled, and the results were vicious. i went back to look for some of them recently, because i wanted to show people what they looked like. the very worst ones were purged by twitter, but there are plenty out there, and i do want to show you what they looked like. so i probably shouldn't read all of these in a house of worship, but they come out right with what it is. it puts the gold star on the chest. or it gets the hose again. this is one of my friends, daryl lampshade, charming name. quick question, why have the jews been kicked out of so many countries if they never did anything wrong? please answer. this is a common theme in the alt-right. they like to make jews answer to our own oppression. i will just point out that ari gold burg is almost certainly --

ari goldberg is almost certainly not this man's real name. [laughter] and he used this alt-right cartoon character of the sniveling jew. he actually has a name be, there's a whole -- in my book i explain the whole origin of that cartoon character. and he shows up again and again in alt-right motifs. this is an image of another journalist, julia jaffe, at that time -- she works for the atlantic now. she was a freelance journalist. she had done a profile of melania trump, and she had gone back to slovenia where her, where melania's family had come from, and she wrote what i think most journalists was a fair and nice profile. but melania did not like it. and because melania did not like it, the trolls in the alt-right that are kind of stormtroopers decided to go after julia with the great vehemence. here's a picture of julia getting her head shot by a nazi.

this is a common mow feoff, you put -- motif, you put a journalist in a gas chamber and have donald trump throw the switch. i won't necessarily read all of these, but here's another one. there's a picture of daniel day lewis. and i'll just tell you, daniel day lewis was not a member of the alt-right, he is -- at one time he was in, i don't know if you saw it, martin scorsese's "gangs of new york," and he played a nativist character named bill the butcher. and twitter allows you to take on any identity you want. and bill the butcher just happens to be a common one in the anti-semitic world. this is another one that i just bring out because it is another example of how they make you answer to your own oppression.

haven't jews been kicked out from all nations? it will be your turn soon. i mention this also because we're all fixated, rightly, on the anti-semitism that is surging in europe and that's an anti-semitism born of anti-zionism. ain't semites, a new breed in -- antisemites, a new breed in france and britain hate israel. but the alt-right doesn't really hate israel. the alt-right sees israel as an ethnostate, and they want an ethnostate. they want a white nation in what is now the united states, and they see israel as a place for us, jews, to go to. and we are not white, according to their views. so they're not actually -- they don't really, they don't really fit in with the european concept, this new european concept of anti-semitism.

this is another one. they actually -- the thing is they love to get a rise from the people that they're targeting, so they think it's very funny that there's no business like -- [inaudible] business. i'll just let that one speak for itself. goebbels. the nazis lost world war ii, but they find real heroism in joseph goebbels and all things third reich. so this is a concept that the jews run everything in secret, and if the non-jews could just discover the secret to how the jews run everything, then we'll have to shut it down. and this is a thing you hear all the time in the alt-right. the goyim know, shut it down. and as i know, the alt-right would like us to leave, and they

have a place for us to go, israel, and that's -- they empowered donald trump to send us away. so that is, i just wanted to show you a few things. we don't need these anymore. and, you know, people often ask me if i was scared during all of this. did i fear for my life, did i worry about my children. and perhaps i was foolish, but i didn't. i wasn't really scared. i just wasn't going to be threatened by these two-bit cyber terrorist nazis. but, you know, i am scared now. because since i began writing this book about my own experiences, a follower of what he called the alt-right came upon a young black student at the, just outside the university of maryland in college park, maryland. he asked, demanded that the student step aside from the, on the sidewalk. the student did not step aside. the student was stabbed to death. in portland, oregon, two men had

come to the rescue of a young teenage girl wearing a hijab on the light rail in portland. they were stabbed to death. then, of course, came charlottesville. and the world saw the alt-right jump from the internet to the flesh with their chants of "jews will not replace us," their tiki torches and ultimately the death of a counterprotester, heather heyer, run down by a bigot in a dodge charger. so, yes, i am scared. and what is to be done? i will confess that my book is pretty hard on jews. mostly main-line jewish organizations, those in the big glass edifices in new york and washington. i know amazing work is being done at the synagogue level, at the congregation level. but i don't think enough is being done right now to counter

the rising tide of white nationalism. and not just in the united states, all over, in hungary, in poland. white nationalists just want a laurelty of -- just won a plurality of the parliament in italy. the president of hungary is about to the get overwhelmingly reelected after running a campaign really against george soros who was, obviously, not actually on the ballot. elie wiesel called us the jews of silence for our acquiescence. we were feckless in our response to the holocaust, to be honest, too. during the rise of hitler, the american jewish committee representing the more affluent, assimilated german jews were promoting a kind of quiet advocacy and diplomacy to counter naziism. the american jewish congress, which was a redoubt of more recent arrivals from eastern europe, they wanted a brasher approach, rallies, direct appeal

to the roosevelt administration. the rabbis preached widely, there were rallies, but really to many american jews silence was really the response. why attract attention of the antisemites when people like charles lindbergh and henry ford, people of such renown were actually espousing pro-nazi views. why rocking the boat and risk the same fate at european jews? like so many moments in american and world history, americans when facing this exist den, threat -- existential threat, just couldn't quite get it together. since my book has come out, i've gotten a hot of pushback. i expected the american jewish committee and the jewish federations to defend themselves, and i accept that. and what i haven't expected is a lot of smaller jewish organizations and synagogues have really come down hard on me and said what about us?

we're doing wonderful things. i'm not saying they aren't. but i would say that if the american jewish community in its, in all its strength were really coming out against the rise of bigotry in this country and abroad, we would know it. i don't feel like we are seeing that. for decades now american jews have argued and argues, but we've argued over israel. we have our liberal j street and our main-line conservative aipac, we have the new israel fund, the american jewish committee, and what do they fight over? they fight over israel. for 25 years a guy named ken stern told me -- he worked for the american jewish committee. he finished his tenure as the director of the division of anti-semitism and extremism, and when he arrived at the ajc, he told me the committee had an entire floor devoted to domestic issues like education, immigration, inter-ethnic

relations, inter-religious outreach. but over time those concerns were subordinated to the singular focus on israel. clean energy? okay. but make sure it relates to israeli energy security. interfaith efforts? fine, as long as they're geared to heading off the boy cost divesting -- boycott divesting sanctions movement. outreach to hispanic communities? absolutely, they're a rising force in american politics, we need to protect israel. the american jewish committee saw where the big one was. why chase after $5,000 or $10,000 donations when hedge fund managers were cutting checks of six figures or seven figures. but to get the big money, the committee needed to be more tempered, more conservative and more focused on israel. it was the easiest way to focus the american jewish attention. israel was born of one of the worst atrocities in human

history, certainly the worst atrocity in jewish history, the holocaust. its existence is a testament to the desire to keep jews safe. but let me tell you, if the united states is a hostile country to the jew, israel is not safe. it is by far the largest recipient of american military aid. israel's iron dome missile shield was builting with israeli ingenuity but also a lot of american help. israeli engineers actually helped design the joint strike fighter, and israel's air force will be the only one in the middle east that gets the plane. but when it rolls off that assembly line, it will be rolling off in fort worth, texas, not in tel aviv. the fact is, is that the jewish haven of is only safe as long as it's under the american security umbrella. american jews should be at least as focused on keeping the united states safe for jews as it is

for sustaining israel's security. at the height of the 2016 campaign when the alt-right dog whistling was all over the place, david harris, the head of the american jewish committee, wrote a column for "usa today" happily recounting how ivanka trump hadden converted to judaism and how chelsea clinton had married mark med vin sky. whoever wins will bring a jewish family to the white house. this is exactly what he wrotement he said, how american jewish voters will respond to donald trump's jewish links and pro-israel statements and to persistent questions about the support he is receiving from the far right including white supremacists and anti-semitic groups remains to be seen. but if past is prologue, there are likely to be some jews being both loudly supporting and energetically opposing his candidacy. welcome to american presidential politics and the jews in 2016.

i have to read this one sentence again. he said, how american jewish voters will respond to donald trump's jewish links and pro-israel statements and to persistent questions about the support he is receiving from far right including white supremacists and anti-semitic groups remains to be seen. as if a presidential candidate backed by white supremacists and anti-semites is normal. i mean, come on, we can do better than that. .. shellshocked and they were looking for support in answers the team repeated itself the

weekend of trump's inauguration. on the evening of december 14 the conference of presidents major jewish organization gather for hanukkah party. at the trump international hotel. it is not a secret that his record on human rights abuses is atrocious but with the relations. they blasted what they called far left extremists who were objecting to the site of the jewish umbrella group party and in the lincoln library of library of the trump hotel with diplomats. it would've been terribly unwise this is just weeks

after they had aired their final ad on television. that inveighed against global special interests. in janet yellen from the fed will go across the screen. forget about dog whistles this was like a fog horn. as rabbi semel put it let's face it the american jewish community has been abandoned by its leaders. i want to be clear here about one think i am not saying that the jewish response to the rise of anti- semitism and white nationalism should be uniform adoption of west wing politics. they have come from conservatives in republicans and especially conservative republican jews. the infant -- defense. the rule of law.

american intelligence. he should not be considered democratic or republican endeavors these are american endeavors. neither party is supposed to cross these lines. authoritarianism. that is not liberal or conservatism that is american. in closing, bear with me, i want to share an obscure story that has meaning to me. back in 2014 before anyone have heard of the outbreak. the lags the video games places like reddit these are online chat groups that you probably don't even know exist. they call collectively decided that a small group of videogame writers had to be destroyed. it was braiding video games

for women. they have a videogame that didn't run prostitutes over for points. or should on anybody. so the attack they docked. they published personal information addresses, phone numbers so that anybody could attack these women in person or attack their bank accounts were still in their identities. they also did the thing called swatting. they would call the local police station near the houses in the case of zoe quinn and

do something he called the zoe post. the loudest ones that were involved. it was altered to read that happens to be the next date. social media post urged her to kill herself. and of the threat if i ever see you are doing a panel at an event i will literally kill you. where we have to rake -- rape zoe quinn and take everything from her. what happened was horrific but it was also important because

at that point most of the racists races in the anti- semites were living in their own little world they have storm fronts in the daily storm and the planned websites. and they were just talking to each other. when they saw what they could do to these women they said it was like a signal flare. we need to leave our little posterior world and poster world and go on to sites even the discussion rooms of youtube and eventually twitter. by doing that they made sure that a whole new generation would just stumble into it. people are just running into it. and they are learning about these new ideologies out there because it's now much more easy to spread.

i bring this also appeared for a more uplifting point. zoe quinn is an amazing woman. for victims of abuse online for social workers and the crash offered these practical tools on how to combat this kind of abuse. it wasn't about anti-semitism. in the first year crash override have a hotline. they personally handled more than a thousand calls she personally couldn't do it all herself. it was just killing her. so what would it mean to zoe our countless victims out there if jewish wherewithal

were push behind. we actually did practical things to combat what's happening. online. in a society where intolerance and hatred and just plain nastiness are suddenly far more tolerated it is just one of many wars attacks on immigrants racism we are all in this together. over 2016. that is a largest single year jump in record and that came after another big jump in 2016 during the campaign. that was more than matched which was 57 percent. and where jews were reporting taunts in disruptions and

spray paint and whatever some americans are actually being killed about the girl who was beaten to death by washington in 1958 when a synagogue in atlanta my a synagogue the temple wasn't bombed by klansmen. you do not preach and encourage heat for the negro and hope to restrict it to the field. it is time we refocus our days. [applause].

i'm happy to take any and all questions thank you. what are some specific things you are thinking of. what specific things can be done. specifically as i said i think their systems to come back to work with the fbi and to work with and he was talking about effort to unite jewish organizations with the fbi to start reporting and going after online heat and trying to shutdown shut down some other websites. he may not have gotten very far. he was fired two days later. it was important moment.

i bring them up. there is some controversy about the new leadership. always a very dick diplomatic man. he did not want to be seen as a liberal or conservative. he has been more out front he has been criticized by some jewish republicans that by being outspoken against anti-semitism and bigotry on the right somehow he speaking out against donald trump. i don't think that that is correct. but i think that they have that support. when they actually put together a guide to the old rate.

some of the characters is that they listed our pretty prominent supporters to trump they came against the anti-defamation league and said they were standing with this other guy was shocking. i did not hear that committee i think standing for our institutions and moving them to a more aggressive position is really important for the american jewish committee. [inaudible conversations] i

just wonder where is jerrod kushner. it does he what's going on. the fact that they were going to be in this way has is kind of like talisman for anyone who thought that. everything's fine. ultimately some people are reluctant to speak up certainly members of the trump family had been reluctant to speak up. and remember during the campaign melania trump was asked about his attacks she provoked it and donald trump was asked in an interview with wolf blitzer about the swarming altered rate and the

anti- semitism. he said i don't control my supporters. i don't pretend to know what is in donald trump's mind. but i will say were not exactly seen the forthright opposition to the swirl bigotry that has kind of come in the wake of this campaign. there is a study that i say in my book about this group of economists actually writing in a peer-reviewed journal that talked about taking a group of people before the election and showing them we are going to contribute and most of the groups and the people that

were being studied said and i want you to do that. and then they steadied overtime during the course of the election as more and more people said yeah just to quietly the same group of people came back and said i'm not seen into immigration is necessarily alright all right bigotry. but i will say the morays of a polite society are dropping i think that's what we are seeing around us. i just want to comment on a few of your comments. they are grossly inaccurate. first of all you focus on alt right you fail to acknowledge it all were nation of israel

summit is semitism that works as well. secondly you failed to recognize that the american jewish committee formed the muslim jewish coalition to the next breast purpose of fighting anti-semitism and the lack of pluralism. where we form the as well. and lastly, it would've been helpful if just talking about one former employee of the ag 8c to find out what we are doing on a global basis to fight that. not only the united states and in europe as well. and that you represent these as they are not as you portrayed them.

by the input of one person. the federations and some agc leaders in california in a couple of weeks. i will say if the american jewish committee were for rightfully standing up i think we would see it and we are not. you and i can disagree on this. i get it. and the anti- semitism of the left. i always expected to talk about this. the gutter hatred that they had expressed is as hateful

and bigoted there is no question. and i condemn the nation of islam's view. i will also say this. in 1995 organize the million man march. about half-million americans came to that. that was the the pinnacle of the power. it is a small organization it is present in urban centers around the country but it is not a swelling movement. they cannot put 100,000 fascists on the streets of saint it is illegal to say that they have anything to do with the holocaust they have not grabbed the italian

parliament. they did not make the final run off for the presidency of france. so i would say that we have to focus on where the movement is. where the threat is and i did not believe that in his brand of hatred is a rising threat the way white nationalism is. these are not equal. i will also talk about the anti-semitism of the left now, i will tell you what is happening in france and britain is really frightening. and you are seen in tight israeli sentiment rise up to a point where they are chanting

in the street. in the holocaust survivor could be murdered in a flat. is mobilizing an entire movement from the right you have it coming from the right and the left. that is horrifying. i will also talk about the movement in the united states. obviously there are jews in i know that who are on in campuses right now who feel uncomfortable with the anti- israeli sentiment in liberal organizations i will also tell you i have a stepdaughter. she is incredibly jewish identified. she also hates israel. i will tell you if you want to argue with her on policy if you want to make the case that she and that you're going to

argue why it's wrong. if you are going to call her an anti-semite you will get nowhere. she is someone that really doesn't like israel. i am not so silly as to call my own stepdaughter an anti-semite who loves being jewish. i grabbed -- draw a great distinction i talked about the argument that i have. over the camped on a solution. when i was a senior in college i wrote a column that said if israel cannot deal for rightfully settle the palestinian crisis someday we will lose a generation of jews

and we will rise up with the occupation as what they think of. and now that is scary. do you think that social media has created more anti-semitism. or do you think that's just reflecting the existing anti-semitism in america think you. i think obviously i think social media exposes anti- semitism that is ancient and long-standing. in the quarters of the american culture but i will also say it is created an avenue to spread there is a

guy his name is cutie pie. he is like this youtube or from sweden. he did this thing where he hired these guys from india for $5 to do something anyone say what it was. and what he did was he was shocked because he actually did it. somewhere in india that said debt to the jews. and dance around with it. like all of these kids saw this. they pretended to be embarrassed that actually happen. and the fact that kids 11-year-old boys who loved

puny pie saw these indian boys in the jungle dancing around. that is scary to me it used to be harder to get your word across. and now it's really easy. they are swimming and this cesspool online. and it's almost hard to it nor at this point. i'd glad you got to the adl. what is in his mind is a 64,000-dollar question. the attitude of most cities -- citizens of the state of israel and netanyahu. in sharp comparison to iraq.

i would agree that a more forceful pronunciation of the site of some of his supporters he made the comment while i can't control the attitude of supporters. is there any evidence at all that he has in any way supported anti- semitism in any form. >> there's a lot of stories around about his childhood at the new york times would never been able to figure these

things out. the validity of them and it's hard to. the redlining blacks at a trump out of trump organization buildings and things like that. there are weird things that happen in this white house. he will retweet a meme with the guy wrestling a cnn guide to the ground and smashing his head. it only took a few clicks to find out that that same person who put together that image have put together the most obnoxious images also. i spent time on social media. i would not had run across that. how did they find that guy. during the campaign there were

quite a few times he was tracking and imagery that was one step removed from blatant racism. and it was one step removed but these were images that would not have been easy to find unless you are some how is swimming around in the cesspool. it's a question that i have always wanted to know. we've actually tried to figure it out. this guy brad paschall. i'm sure he must know how in the world of these images crop up in the message of coming out at the white house. i want to make inferences here.

>> during the charlottesville protest one of the chants was jews it will not replace us. to me that is anti-semitic. during the campaign there was a picture of hillary clinton is superimposed on a jewish star take it from there. a lot of the men were. angry that his daughter married a. they have gone up 57% since trump has been president if

that is not entice semitism what is. even though his daughter is married to one. the image of the jewish star is one of the main examples that i say that somehow the campaign was swimming and some very filthy waters. and what happened in charlottesville i hope was a wake-up call for everyone because they will not replace us originally it was you will not replace us. in the white nationalist world. they believed that there believe that there is white genocide going on.

they are all taking over for the white people. it's hard for them to understand this because they believe that african-americans in latinos and muslims are inferior creatures to them. in the great pantheon i don't want to appear nice with so many muslim people they have infiltrated of the majority of the populations of many countries.

hearing so much hate if it's coming from the muslims in terms of israel or in terms of anything. has caused a lot of anti- semitism. i don't mean to say that the muslims aren't good people. but i feel the emergence of their group in such large numbers has created this hatred so the question is is this true. as i did earlier. i draw a distinction as the left in europe. and what you are seeing in france where you have white nationalist.

and a lot of islamic immigrants -- immigrants. they are coming at them from the left. and it is creating horrific situation. there is no there's no question about it. i do not see that happening in the united states. i see i don't feel like the muslims have that much power. i think those in europe are certainly exerting pressure on their societies to oppose israel. it has the odd mcafee cyst. if you were a in france or you are a in britain you were are made to answer for israel.

we should be made to answer for the policies of another nation. for israel. it's abroad. you must announce -- renounce israel or you will be attacked. as a sentiment that we are seeing more and more. it's very scary. >> you talk about jewish organizations coming together trying to do more subject to the anti-semitism that's rising. i get the impression. i live in an area in brooklyn is rather orthodox. even the few times i have brought up somewhere about charlottesville. i get the feeling that because present trump led them to

jerusalem they want to overlook the other aspect with charlottesville. i get that feeling and even in my own family i have a nephew i tried to bring up the subject with them. i don't deal with those issues. i actually talked talk about this in my book a lot. the notion the development of the tribalist jews. in the internationalist jews feel like the committee thrives at a time when the walls come down. when they are blurred.

they actually thrive in that. everything comes down to israel. they are willing. the desire to move the embassy. and they are moving the sign from the conflict to the embassy. it has such incredible meeting. the tribalist are really at odds. that focal point is coming into the trumpet ministration.

what do you say for the trump supporter. they feel that trump is going to be better for israel. without looking at what he's doing here. all of the care about. what do you say to them. i'm not here to oppose donald trump but i'm here to say that i do believe and that i said in this talk. i do believe that israel ultimately is only as safe as the united states is safe for the jews. if they turn to be a hostile power how much longer do you think that there can be sending $5 billion of military aid per year.

if they will appear. the british government is under pressure to cut ties with israel. with the rising sentiment. that will happen here also. i'm just saying we have ultimately a responsibility to keep that united states a democratic pure. for the longest time it felt like it was slowly progressing towards a more inclusive pluralist democratic society. and it kind of reaches that. it was a time when hundreds of

thousands of people were losing jobs every month. if they have the first back president. we really are a country towards acceptance and inclusiveness. the question is is this moment the aberration. or are we going to look back and think actually, those years between 1960 in 2008 were actually the aberration. do you think that we have cited that. for some time of the groups in

israel. with the israeli policies. it becomes associated with those parties. is it also easier to fight that on the right. with american jews to keep the rising generation to identifier with judaism as an religion not a nation. that's one of the problems with the american jewish community. why should it matter that there is a harsh straight of nationalism and bigotry in israel to me. they have come to link to

israel that we are made and answerable to political trends 8,000 miles away. i think that as is a problem for us. as i said i think it is time for the american jewish community to really stand up for american values. i am a holocaust survivor. for many years that i had been involved in the museum in washington. and every time i go to their meetings and i'm in washington next week and i hear never again in my lifetime for several years it is ever again. and it is happening and i as a

child i went through the birth and rise of mussolini started out appealing to the young people and making the place better there such a parallel it is exactly what is happening now with mister trump as president. 57% is really scary. two weeks before the election i was giving a talk to a group of elderly marylanders right outside of washington. and i was saying and talking about my experiences with the ultimate rate.

and we are to wonder and then i was wrong. about the outcome of this election and i would not be so confident that this is can be something that fades away. there is something about nationalism that really brings out the worst in people. we are in internationalist asian right now.

will you call it american first policy. he didn't understand it was associated with nazi sympathies. there is a power to nationalism that unleashes ill wind we are in the middle of out ill wind right now. before we take it i want everyone to know that the sanctuary is open after the book signing if anybody would like to see our beautiful sanctuary. i think it would be very helpful to focus on what needs to be done and what we can do.

we need to flood the university campuses i don't personally know how to do these things. and we need to get the message out and it doesn't matter whether it comes from this american jewish organization or that one i always give $36 to how we organize. let's organize the students from parkland and do it. at the synagogue level amazing things are happening. i talk about this organization in nashville called noah. it is linked to mosques like

three synagogues and a bunch of different churches white, black together into this umbrella organization that is doing wonderful into religious work. the organizations all over the country in small scales but they are really giving people an option. and there are new organizations. there is an effort and it's up to us to encourage and join. i think if you look you will find avenues for that. i think we want to think jonathan. and we will find time to fight sign these books.

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