austin. >> let me know when you're done. [inaudible conversations] >> okay. [inaudible conversations] [laughter] >> what a pleasure to see you in the audience. >> enjoy the rest of your visit. >> thanks again. >> thank you.

>> nice to meet you. [inaudible conversations] >> yeah, sure. >> very nice to meet you. >> nice to meet you. [inaudible conversations] >> i retired last year. >> okay. [inaudible conversations] >> all the relevant court cases that are not included. >> wow. >> so many historians get lazy. >> good. [inaudible conversations]

>> i mentioned that they tried to build her -- [inaudible conversations] >> not her they charged the estate for addressing her beautifully for viewing that didn't occur. she was cremated. the lawyer -- the court-appointed lawyer -- [inaudible conversations] >> got the money back. >> really?

[inaudible conversations] >> okay. yeah. that came out in legal documents. >> they talked to me about time capsules. >> wow. [inaudible conversations] >> articles about that. >> wow. >> about 600 translations. [inaudible conversations] >> those are selected articles. >> yeah.

>> i've been reading -- [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> finding the birth record -- [inaudible conversations] >> very nice to meet you.

good luck. >> so many guests. [inaudible conversations] >> really depend on trajectory of her life. it was uncritical biography. >> i think records show resolutions -- >> it really does. >> there's lazy people and that's the end of it. >> no, that's not the end of it. [inaudible conversations] >> right. >> thank you very much. >> thanks, so nice to meet you. >> my pleasure. >> one other question -- [inaudible conversations] >> well, you know, i taught american history for a long time i knew about her. >> yeah.

[inaudible conversations] >> he's given me something -- >> yes. [laughter] >> almost developmental reading to secure the work out loud. one of the biggest challenges is that every time we went in -- [inaudible conversations] >> right. you have to have the basic facts. we thought we had basic facts. [laughter] >> they dissolved and we never put our finger on that. [laughter] [inaudible conversations] >> right. >> in the middle of editing and revising and we will go back in.

at this point, i think we will be able to do formal reading about the work. we have taken an odd tactic, i started out writing three plays. [inaudible conversations] >> in our play, our graduate students -- [inaudible conversations] >> every issue that comes up, she's having the same conversation. >> it's a really interesting aspect of the whole thing. i thought, you know, after i realized that she was so far ahead of me that i should give up on biography, there's a little piece. her relationship with chicago police authorities are contentional that isolated -- [inaudible conversations] >> it's complementary and odd relationship where she creates publicity and creates the attention and the more she's

arrested and the more thrown in jail -- they're not sure what to do. she's really interesting, on the other hand, do we want to give her that much attention if we react to all her provocations, she'll have front page headlines. we don't want to do that because really just encourages her. [laughter] >> well, thank you so much. >> great to see you again. good luck with your work. >> any public thing -- [inaudible conversations] >> absolutely. >> i would love to go. >> i don't think -- [inaudible conversations] >> provide sod many answers for us. every time you get an answer it

opens up to another. >> take care. [inaudible conversations] >> here is a look at some of the current best-selling nonfiction audio books according to audible. topping the list i will be gone in the dark, late true crime journalist, firsthand account of her search for the golden state killer who has been charged with a dozen murderers and 50 sexual assaults in california during

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today's program will be broadcast live on c-span's 2 book tv. this time at tend for q&a session, we ask microphone to the side so home-viewing audience can hear your question. before we begin today's program we ask that you silence your cell phones and turn off your camera flashes. please welcome lina sergay. >> good afternoon, everyone, it's a pleasure to be here at 2018 printers row lit fest in chicago. my name is lina and i'm a syrian american architect and writer from aleppo