there was almost like this hopeful rhetoric that somehow i would not qualify the next year. imagine having to wear that baggage every single year. i think a lot of athletes of color who are in similar situations. you can watch this and other programs online. [applause]. we would like to say once a month you are not alone. i also like to welcome c-span. watch what you say i guess. i am delighted to introduce

mona chair and first i thought it would be very easy to get people interested anyone who is ever known this. you have to start your research many years in advance. there is no way i don't think. it has been interested in this topic and how we are all the same. she published an article called the feminist mistake. you will hear a great presentation tonight. is it syndicated columnist. she is the senior fellow of the ethics and public policy

center. i can imagine what that's about. please help me welcome mona trend. thank you all. excellent. i want to thank erica. as always great to be able to catch up with that. i'm delighted to be here in silicon valley. i never thought i would be addressing a group of conservatives. my new book is called matters. the following headline appeared there is a chilling

new call for women to reject feminism. in the article they wrote that watching me on tv was enough to convince him that someone have changed the channel to that hands made tail. about me and my suppose it, invitation. here is my favorite part. he wrote, i admit i have not read the new book. don't confuse me with the facts my mind is made up. that is only my second favorite quotation from my father. his best line was actually in the form of a question why are there so many more horses asses than there are horses.

i've been doing a lot of interview since the book was published. when someone ask me what prompted me to write this book. i didn't have a response ready. i wish i have just said because i'm happy and i want more people to be able to say that. i had been married for almost 30 years. we have three grown sons. this does not make me i cheerfully cut back on my work while my boys were young. this doesn't make me a freak and puts me in the mainstream of married women. but we live in an era when fewer and fewer adults are marrying. in bitterness between men and women seems to worsen on the time. they had built a persona as a spokeswoman for women wonders how any woman could reject the label feminist.

in 2016 poll found that 68 percent of american women do reject the label. her free floating contempt for men was evident in a recent tweet. i would honestly rather fall into one honest manhole. note the resentment even when men are attempting to be kind dunham is voicing the 21st century version of a slogan that went around in the 1970s a woman needs of man like a fish needs a bicycle. without denying the beneficial effects of feminism such as greater opportunities in the workplace and freedom from certain social expectations. about what it must include. we are overdue for a reckoning about feminism and the missteps. one of these was what you see in lena dunham. the feminist movement.

that has ceded the culture. there are many and i go into them in detail in "sex matters". let's itemize some that i discussed. the sexual revolution was necessary and good for women. that masculinity itself is toxic. that all businesses between the sexes are socially constructed that marriage served only men's interest not women's. and that they earn only 77 cents on the dollar compared with men. the feminist and sexual revolution's revolutions that rocked the world 60 years ago had transformed all of our lives. the cultural narrative that were familiar with celebrates the new freedom and applauds the advances for women. it's important to ask. are we happy her.

of single parenting and hookup culture. our women are more satisfied with their lives. every year since 1970 to the general social survey has asked a broad cross-section of americans about their lives in general. and how happy they are. in 1972 women reported being somewhat happier than men every year since despite the achievements of feminism women's reported happiness has declined both in absolute terms hand when compared with men. around 1990 the sexes passed each other and since then they had reported being less happy than men and less happy than their mothers and grandmothers were at the same stage of life. it wasn't one survey either. dozens of other studies from europe in america show the same trends.

i 2011 study found that women are to a half times as likely to be taking an antidepressant as men. recent data on suicide between 2000 and 2016. show a 21% increase for men by 50% increase for women. the increase was 60%. this closes a gender gap but not in a way that anyone would share. as for men the decline of marriage and family seems to have left the numbers a draft in their prime ages. they are doing no paid work at all. please note this category is not the same as unemployed men they are not even working -- looking for work. in 14% only 14% said they were idle because of lack of job opportunities. most are low skilled never married and made in foreign.

the cast of men that don't work out mary and don't support children is worrying. meanwhile boys and men are falling behind women in many realms of life. men are now in a majority of matchless, masters and phd in america. these are among the advances that they cheer but perhaps we shouldn't be so quick to celebrate. the feminist movement has gotten us into the very bad habit of measuring the success of one at the expense of the other. can women really be considered the women if men are falling behind. we are all connected to one another. everyone of those men who is not going to college or is not employed as some woman's son or brother or father. and speaking of husbands. women tend to marry men that are the legal equals or

superiors and education and income. who are all of those female university graduates can find to marry. in 2015 and again in 2017 a peer of princeton, economists. economist. about the life expectancy. after decades of the steadily increasing lifespans due to better nutrition and so forth it has taken a turn in the other direction. they identified the cause as diseases of despair. cirrhosis of the liver, drug overdoses and alcohol poisoning. this despair is found in exactly those groups that lester educated working class that has seen the most family disruption in the past several decades. what went wrong. how could a doctrine that is feminism that merely believes

in female equality be responsible for these unhappy trends. you can find anything out of existence. in the most benign way. if you define it as believing in the full legal social and moral equality who but the most benign and big it could object. and when i debate feminist they will define it that way. that may be true for the suffragettes. the feminist that we have come to know excel at sucking the joy out of life. and the second way they were a humorous lot. to the point that there was a joke. that is not funny.

they can then comprise. or culminated against the dominance. and demanded intimated that the nuclear family be smashed. in the final analysis women are really free until their libidos are recognized as separate entities. you may not remember robert rimmer. there was this enormous bestseller in the 60s called the herod experiment. they described the college campus it would all be

blissful in fantastic. okay. the skype well of course. he sold a huge number of books. here is the point i got to bring out. feminist joint hands. he championed the equal rights amendment. and filed the brief. in the abortion cases. i was one of the first feminist.

without the seal of approval. i would never had gone mainstream. most people would have would've dismissed as another attempt by men to get them to let down their guard have a look at what is happening on college campuses. there's an epidemic of sexual assault. the gender-based misconduct specialist. though the statistics had been exaggerated on some percentage seem to arise from regretted sex it is a signal that the sexual free-for-all has not turned out to be the egalitarian utopia imagined by

robert rimmer. they had been raised to believe that they inherited a right to express her sexuality. they did not feel like equals on the sexual playground more like jungle gyms. they offered a bad ones of golden opportunity for abuse in rate. the me too movement is another red flag. the revolutions bequeathed to them you might remember that story.

one, and i i found really interesting was from a feminist. a lot of men will read that post about him and see an everyday reason. but part of what they're saying right now is that culture considers that. i actually agree with this. so many of the young women i spoke to told me that they would love to date flirt and form relationships with them they're forced to choose hooking up or nothing. the explanation what's gone wrong is a masculinity itself is toxic. we need to teach them not to rape.

i wrote a whole chapter in my book about differences between the sexes. i would be the last to deny that there are many differences between men and women and they are by nature more sexually aggressive than women. they are trying to catch up. if they really were teaching meant to be rapist would have a hard time explaining it. my men are so often self-sacrificing. i brought these new clint eastwood movie. it documents a famous case in

france. in six men leapt up and took them on. and three of them were americans. that kind of hair was as a classically male do. you cannot talk about men being toxic without recognizing men be an honorable and notable. i'm brave. but you won't hear that from feminist. they've been preaching that all differences are socially constructed. some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them. all the snow from the evidence of our senses that some traits

are more pronounced than one. with three sons which meant that we have to get used to a certain amount of property damage and trips to the emergency room. i dismount as best i could when we went to the zoo. brain organization. from disease to responses and drugs. and of course it's true that it affects behavior to some degree. so early that are universally observed that they cannot be said to be anything other than an eight.

they can distinguish photographs. where they usually cannot. baby boys are more interested in girls. there are many other examples women have a much superior sense of smell they go across cultures and continents. just by knowing what a person is looking for enemy can identify it with 90% accuracy. women tend to want men with resources. this is true in bangladesh and

boston. it's hard to say it's a matter of culture. he decides it is midlife he is getting a little punchy so you can get a gym. come on over here to the stairmaster. i will well really get you going. what about something for my shoulders. the machine mahi was working on the weights the woman walked in a beautiful long auburn hair. everybody was looking at her. the owner of the place. tommy the manager said i

absolutely do. he walked him over to the atm. it's hard to say what is in a and what's culture. my wife says i'm too false. i don't listen and something else. feminist so they fear the science on differences because they would prefer a world in which they described obligatory sexuality on one sexual anatomy is relevant. part of that project this reject the mother father.

the family must go. in 2012 the feminist and mother of two children condemned concerns about the single motherhood. if there's anything that currently oppresses the children. alternative families work only for a tiny minority. married adults are much happier. when it comes to children. those raised by their married parents compared with others are just the differences. recent studies about the effect of fatherlessness have the revealed the rise of single parent.

had had even worse consequences for boys than for girls. at least two more mental health and behavioral problems. two economists study. growing up in a home without their fathers meant they were much less likely to attend college. they were less ambitious. less hopeful and more likely to get into trouble at school than fatherless girls. men have a critical role when it comes to raising children and i go into this in the book they have a special elixir that men bring to the job apparently is natural to them

and it turns out to be incredibly important for the good development of both of them. boys apparently really need that brought roughhousing. the turns out to be incredibly important. everything is connected. when more boys are growing up without fathers there are fewer young men who become the kind of adult women want to marry. educated employed and non- drug abusing. without the grounding of marriage. they become disconnected from society. and women of course are worse off after a divorce usually is the women who suffer a decline in income at the men. and 40% of american children are now born to single mothers.

this combined with the health rate. about half of all american children will now spend a part of their childhood in a single-parent home. social scientists across the political spectrum agree that this family chaos is destructive. in 2017 the poverty rates with the children was 36.5 percent. compared to 7.5 percent for families headed by a married couple. i loved being a mother. but i cannot imagine it. they give americans. the clock has nothing to do with it. just consider the situation of most college graduates.

they tend to follow the same patterns of marriage. they follow what sociologists had called the success sequence they finish their education get a job get married and have children in that order. and only in that order. and they rarely divorce. these women commonly choose to work part-time. they tell all the feminist. these doctors and lawyers. they are living in 50,000 homes. they need not reject marriage and family stability to achieve greater market opportunities for women. i think i am the first two-point this out in this book. the trend of women entering the paid workforce predated

the feminine physique. arguably owed more to the shift towards the information economy into the sisterhood. me too in 1940 in 1956. the era that they say the number of women in the workforce and doubled. as a sociologist daniel balla noted in 1956 women were to be found in nearly every field from railroad treatment. two glazer's to option years. it is a great boon that the professional talents are valued more than in the past. to the degree that they gave went. it can take a bow. but women also want and need the stability and security of marriage and the profound fulfillment of motherhood. in 2015 they objected that the republican worldview is one that even the basic things

like lung -- love the connection and other basic human needs are being reclassified as privileges that should be available. mark is right that love and connection are key to human flourishing. she fails to account for feminism's role in putting those things further out of reach. one of the only leaders who actually have children. late in life she largely recounted her file views. the narrative places and excessive motive on the burdens. i talk in the book about this stupid 77-cent statistic. this is the rasputin of statistics. it cannot be killed.

women do not earn 77 cents on the dollar compared to men. you only get that number if you compare all the wages of men and compared to that. the national era of economic research shows that when you compare young men and women who are just starting out in their careers without training and education and skills virtually disappears. surprise women choose to work less when they start having kids. married men and by the way work harder and more ambitiously when they become fathers nearly all mainstream treatments of these matters incorporate the assumption that if women are earning less over their lifetimes they are the losers. we are not just atomized individuals. you cannot separate women success from that of the men and children to whom they are attached. a back at

work. as of the whole family happier and healthier. and isn't the whole society. besides as gratifying as working can be most women have jobs and careers. .. .. more affluence and that usually means married mothers who have a choice, prioritize raising children. throughout the western world, even in countries like scandanavia and israel i know scandanavia is bunch of countries -- have offered

general financial inducements to couples to split childcare 50-50, women continue to shoulder the lion's share of care-giving. a 2013 "new york times" survey asks, if money were no object and you were free to do whatever you wanted, would you stay at home, work part-time or work full-time? among women with children under 18, only 27% said work full-time. so, a pew century fay found among married mothers with the most choices, 76% preferred part-time employment or no work outside the home. so, what we are witnessing, sadly, is the creation of a caste system in american. 57 of birth ares are nonmarital. compared with only 9% among college graduates. this is one of the morse important factors in our rising

inequality. single mothers cannot afford the luxury of part-time work. they live one illness, one crime, one missed rent payment away from disaster. america holding the dubious distinction of leading the world in chaotic adult relationships. 40% of american children will see their parents arrangements dissolve by the time they reach their 15th birthday, and 47% will see a new partner enter them home within three years of their parent's separation which is turns out is very bad for kids. in he old days they talked about wicked stepmothers for obvious reasons. now the most likely villain to come into a child's life is the wicked stepfather, not saying they all are, some are wonderful, but children would live with a nonrelative is living with their mother are 50 times likely to be abused us a

children living with their own biological parents. perhaps due to feminism or attachment to the sexual revolution or the deep, seated american reverence for freedom, we are rerereduck can't to con fro trites price of neglecting duty. too many gets to believe the identity and validation comes from our professions. let me speak for myself. my own work at its best has been stimulating and very gratify, but my husband and three sons are the treasures of my heart. given a little luck, most of us can expect to live long lives, there is time enough to raising a family and for pursuing a contrary, but grownups must acknowledge there are tradeoffs. the world will never shower the kind offed a layings upon good mothers and fathers that is reserves for successful entrepreneurs, athletes, or reality tv stars.

but young people making choices about their futures should know that getting their personal lives right is far more important than career choices. one more thing. serving others is a privilege that calls forth our best selves. when i was caring for my children, even at moments of highest stress and there were many -- i felt a deep sense this where is i belongs, for me and i believe for others, giving, not having, i is the key to happiness and peace. thank you. [applause] >> thank you. excellent presentation. so you see our lovely ushers walking in the aisles and around

if you raise your hand and then they'll come by and collect them. we have some ringers in here. >> you let him sneak one in? >> i know. sort of the bottom. so, one question here is if you look at a couple of organizations expressly female, the american association of university women and league of women voters, very much to the left and yet they're given the patina of we're neutral or middle of the road. anything we do to expose them or reduce their influence or do something on the other side? because that seems to be a very pries siege yous groups that are not in the middle of show boat sides. >> it's true women just say that the -- there's a little bit of timidity on the part of conservativewoman i notice wed they say i'm a feminist but, and

yes, i'm a feminist and that gives them too much power, i think. it's better to say, do i believe in women's equality? absolutely. 100%. am afeminist? no because of what the feminist movement has done. and it doesn't -- to cite those statistics about the majority of american women reject the label feminist. does that mean they reject equality? obviously not. >> thank you. so, without getting too deep into this, could you comment a little more on the #metoo movement. >> so, the #metoo movement is being portrayed as another step in the feminist movement, and i think that's a misinterpretation. my interpretation of the #metoo movement is that it is a long-delayed but nevertheless real rebellion against the

sexual revolution and what came before. women are saying, we are tired of being pawed and abused and of men assuming that sex was just part of the deal when i hire you as an assistant or whatever else. the notion that -- i mean, hollywood has always played by its own rules but honestly the notion that anybody thought he could get away with and did get away with it for asking women to come to his hotel room for a business meeting? no. women have been denied the tools to reject men's advances, right, and to do fit a way thatas just understood. as i was saying with my friend and colleague, jane, win we discussed my book in our podcast in the old days when there was social support for women keeping their distance and forcing men to behave like gentlemen, if a man made a pass at a woman, she could say, well, no.

she could give a lot of reasons. i'm not that kind of girl. my parents wouldn't like it. my boyfriend wouldn't like it. you can still say that. i don't want to get a reputation, any of those things. now what can she say? she is worried she is going to insult him, it's going to be seen as a personal rejection of him, rather than just an inappropriate request. and so it has made it harder for women to navigate this, a lot of them will ask, how do i turn someone down without hurting their feelings? and it has getten really, really difficult for. the. only, this makes me feel old but i'll tell you this story. real quick. college campus. they went and they did a survey which anybody -- frankly anybody would know this who has any common sense. anyway this, did this experiment. they took an attractive young woman and an attractive young

who were conspirators and gave them a clientboard and put them on a college cam us and the attractive young man approached women and said, a variety of things watch you go out with me? would you you go have sex with my tonight? or -- there was one other thing. can't remember. and the attractive women did that with the men and gave the responses. so x number of men, 45% said they'd go out of date. 55% said they would go back to her room for sex and among the women -- actually the men said things to her like, why do we have to wait until tonight? and the women said things like, waste wrong with you? and the women -- the number -- guess what the percentage of women was that agreed to go back to his room for sex? zero. >> that's encouraging. >> yes.

>> actually that's a wonderful segway. how can we return to the time of respectful lady and gentleman relationships and is it even possible? and i recall in your book there's some university professor actually makes people go on dates so that's related to that. >> i think the colleges have a big role here. they have kind of been -- not kind of -- they have were cheerleadsers to the sexual revolution. there's a big sex week at yale other. colleges have the same thing. they have displays of sex toys and they -- when my sister-in-law dropped my nephew off at college a few years ago, she went into the common room and reached into a basket to take out a wrapped candy good got embarrassed to realize it was wrapped condom. so that's the atmosphere that the universities have created. now, what i talk but in the book is that professor at boston college, who decided she had a seminar where she learned that

none of the seniors in her seminar had ever even been on a date. and so she decided to make dating part of the curriculum, and it has spread like wildfire. first of all, she is now the relationship guru at boston college. people who don't take her class ask her for advice. but the kid love dismiss spent a lot of time in class going over how difficult itself is to make yourself vulnerable and made rules, what is a date? it had to be over by 10:00 p.m. you had to ask someone you were truly interested in, not just a friend. there could be no alcohol consumed on the date. and you couldn't see a movie because that would not involve talking. so, you could go out for dinners go for walk around the lake; the kids were incredibly enthusiastic it and has spread. he has now spoken on i think 70 college campuses, to spread the word that, oh, there's this

thing called dating and everyone seems to enjoy it. so, there's hope. >> one thing i enjoy is when a speaker comes from out of town and i think we wonder as group if a local story has made it outside or local and i don't know if you're aware, familiar with a case on the stanford campus where there was a rape charge, and the woman was i think unconscious and the judge was actually re-called in the most -- like to comment on that or have you heard out it. >> i've heard about it. it's mentioned in the book. something where i thing the right has a tendency -- some people only at the right have tendency to go wrong. say tall the store out rape on campus, it's just regret sex, his' has stair ya. there's massaging on data to make it out to be one in four or one in five but there is a tremendous amount of really bad

behavior going on, too, and rape and it shouldn't surprise us. we conservative know if you change the rules and you make drunken hookups the social life of choice, that's going to be a golden opportunity for the worse guys. and that's what they've done. they prey on freshmen women, inexperienced, may get them return and there is rape and this girl was passed out, and he was caught in the act, which is very rare. usually these things don't happen outside. this one did. >> i think this is pretty easy. how do you feel about the transgender ideas that being pushed in elementary school or young children would be asking which gender do they feel like on any given day. >> this is another subject that i do talk about in sex matters, and i think that the transgender moment is the logical extension

of the feminist argument that began in the '60s and '70s that all differences between men and women are socially constructed. when you start from that premise, which is -- has been proved to be wrong but that never stops them -- you then can easily get or you have gotten, anyway -- i don't know if it's so easy -- to the point where you say, well, so here's capacity happened. they claim there were no sex differences and there's some awful stories in the book about how badly wrong that has tan -- taken us. but science caught up to them. study have been done on humans and animals in the last 50 years, showing there's a tremendous numb of differences between men and women and male and female. so what they did is they sneakily changed the terms. they saidings okay, fine, differents between male and female, but there's this other thing called gender, and gender is purely subjective.

so, you can be -- look anatomically female bus the gendered male and vice versa, and so on and the spectrum and now i think when you fill out applications for certain, like, tests and things, or on facebook or something, they give you 57 choices of what your gender is. and it is -- look. it requires very sensitive handling. i would -- because there are children who have gender dysphoria, who are confused boat sexuality ask they require careful, sensitive therapy. but the mania that has seized our country to -- and europe, to say that people, two and three in four-year-olds can tell you that they are -- the person of the opposite sex is crazy. it's crazy for a number of reasons. one, children go through stages.

is a tell in the book, i myself, when i was a little girl, was tom boy and i wanted everyone to call me timmy. i thought being a boy was great. and imagine if a little girl today were to say that. would her parents be counseled by the school and by the doctors that if they don't encourage the child in this idea that she is going to be depressed -- as it was i grew out of it, very quickly, and most kids who express this gender dysphoria, the vast majorie grow out out of after they go through puberty. now we are doing crazy intervenings intervenings and block puberty and cut their hair as the opposite sex and that in itself is going to do tremendous damage. could go on and on about this and i will cut it short. it's all in the book. >> good promo. economic question.

don't know if you know the answer but is it true that women in the u.s. own most of the property honor has that been calculated. >> i don't know the answer to that and i think it might be complicated by a few individuals, like, jeff behles sews and bill gates and so forth. so, i'm not sure how that would work out, but women have 52% of the managerial positions in our society, and they are 80% of the veterinarians in school right now and they're dominating many, many fields, and good for them, but,ings i said, it's not good for anybody if men are falling behind, and they are. >> this is a question interesting. don't know if time has elapsed for there to be an effect yet, regarding title ix and the development from betsy devos and others under her direction of reducing or -- reducing or investigation of claims of rape by females on college campuses?

has that had an effect where rape could be definedded as anything from regret the next morning or other things like that and certainly at the detriment of young men? >> so betsy devos did change the rules but many of the colleges have instituted them voluntarily so they're no longer saying they are complying with the government's guidans, which was issued under the obama administration. they say they're doing it voluntarily so they'll ignore what the federal government says, and many states, including california, have passed laws that institutionalize or legislate very same standards. so it's good that the education department has backed off but it's unclear me how much good that will do at this point because it's got momentum. >> here's a name i hadn't heard in a long time but the question was, what impact would you place on the kinsey report with

contraception and all the other kind of social ills that grew out of that. >> this is a sneak question. someone read the book and knows that i talk about this kinsey report. so, the kinsey report, the height report, a whole bunch bunch of other thing that were mainstream, even doctor spock, a lot of these things have been -- if they came out now they would be completely debunked as junk science. keynesy was a weirdow. who filmed his students having sex in his attic, and was into some very strange things himself. so and he used the -- massaged the data in a very dishonest way, and so -- but yet he is constantly cited as a mainstream scientist and somebody who changed america's conception of what was normal sexuality, and

it's gotten very little attention in the years that have gone by, that it was not true. >> this question is someone timely because of the nomination of justice -- or judge kavanagh, soon to be justice, and all the hysteria about roe v. wade. lincoln said the nation could not endure half slave and half free but if roe v. wade were overturned is there a way to states would sort this out? be some federal level and some at the state level? >> yes. i think in all likelihood that we are headed into an era that i wasn't sure i would ever see, which is that the congress will actually -- congress and the state legislatures and the people will have to make some tough decisions rather than handing it off to nine lawyers the supreme court and saying, you do it.

and that will be a very healthy thing for our country and for our democracy. people will have to make up their minds. bet you there are going to be plenty of republicans who will be towers of jello on this, who have been campaigning and fundraising for decades about overturning roe v. wade but when the opportunity presents itself, they may sort of get cold feet when they realize that it will be very unpopular. so it's going to be an interesting fight, and states will differ, and i think that is what the founders intended, and i think it will be very welcome bit of cleansing. [applause] >> so, here's a little tongue in cheek here. if all differences between sex is is social he constricted shouldn't men and women's sports be merged? >> yes, absolutely. it's not fair.

i had a little fun in the book talking about the battle of the sexes from the 1970s where billy jean king played bobby riggss and they had this big anniversary of it and nbc or abc was going on and on about how this changed the world and changed everything. i said, changed the world? it didn't even change tennis. men still only play men and women still play each other. i wonder why? well, i mean, billie jean king was -- like the three-time champion in her prime, and she was playing this washed up guy was 15 years or 20 years her senior, and even then there were stories that maybe the threw the match. don't know. but he had defeated margaret courts like right before hand. in any event she would never have challenged or dire challenge the reigning mail champion of wimbledon for for

her year. it would be ridiculously feminists want to be taken seriously and want us to appreciate how smart they are, they might start by not arguing about stupid things like are men stronger than women? >> sounds good. if i remember correctly, 2009 williams sisters made a statement to that effect and good at all kindeds of garbage. >> she said just that good for her. >> in kidding. well, that's the great. please help me thank you one more time. [applause] >> in the few mona will drop down the signing table. thank you very much, see you next month. good evening.

[applause] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> here's a look at some books being published this week. in the fighters, form mary recent and pulitzer prize winning reporter profiles several soldiers who have experienced modern combat in america's longest wars. in founding martyr, a recount of the life of physician and american revolutioner in leader dr. joseph warren who died at bunker hill in 1775. in scar face and the untouchables, max allen collins and swartz look at the lives of gangster al capone and fbi agent, elliott nest. also being published, historian

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that they owned because it was giving up oil, and they -- the folks descendenned on them. happened an an interests time in the american history term beginning of the 1920s, we had the famous tea pot dome scandal where second fall was giving public lands to private developers. in fact, naval oil reserves in wyoming. and this was opening up a whole kind of thing. definitely corruption, and in this book, david points out very, very clearly in this particular instance with the osage indians tribe in oklahoma, there was murder, conspiracy, and you know what? don delillo said about conspiracy, in his book, the

libra, he wrote this: a ford ham fellow guy so i'm a fordham guy -- a conspiracy is everything that ordinary life is not. it's the inside game. cold, sure, undistracted forever closed off to us. we are the flawed ones, the innocents, trying to make some rough sense of the daily jostle, conspirators have a logic and a daring behind ore reach. all conspiracy sits he same story of men who kind coherence in some criminal act. dan delillo in lib bra. i couldn't find a better definition of conspiracy anyplace. what we doing is not only being pledge did against the indians, which americans had a knack of, but also taking what was

deserving of them. they were on this land, oil was discovered, and we folks come along that, the conspirators in order to get it back and if we have to, use murder to do it, we'll do it. ... in the 20s. until the texas chamber came.

they finally pursued it. and how they were keeping quiet about it. this was a real conspiracy against an indian tribe and this book is a fantastic book and they've done a fantastic job. the mystery of it send us your summer reading list. but tv on look to be on c-span two. television for serious readers. [applause]. i'm in a let everyone get settled.