about it he can use the money to get away i think it's a good place to introduce people from a young age. >>host: here is the book cover. who is your writing partner? >> an amazing artist from new york but he has the longest running comic strip in australia very predominant in australia so we had a lot of fun putting this together. >>host: thank you for joining us on booktv. >> thank you for having me. [inaudible conversations]

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again we are here again are you the worst politician in america? are we really saving money? >> that's me. >> thank you.

>> the plant and the perch and a prophylactic. a prophylactic. that says it all. >> do you remember me? how is your hair doing? okay. that is me and sean pens documentary. you don't even know the name of the show. >> our power. i am black.

>> if you choose to believe we really are in america. >> white or black or hispanic or asian or african-american. >> with your grandchildren you would? >> what you mean cracker? nine dollars an hour. i don't know. i. i could tell you for sure. >> animals and morons could get hurt but where things are just a little bit nicer.

[applause] library cuts hello bob. how have you been? stand up please. speeseventeen. >> this is bob. i do know if matt is here. phillips.

this is our record and it does rock. we are serious. i hope we make sergeant peppers. thank you to c-span for coming look at the camera and up turnaround everybody. and say hello detroit. we read books to. [laughter] at the detroit public library there was a bankruptcy to save the art museum they cut the funding here. but the way that we got that art i contend is art collectors in europe were predominantly jewish sold it to get out to save their

families and their children. so i don't really hold onto things but that art is literacy writing is the most of my in my craddick art of them all. we are not all made to chisel or paint but everybody else on planet earth is taught in some way or shape or form to take a pencil and a pencil and put down your thoughts. so support your public library and support literacy. thanks to my mom. i love you more than you know. my life. and a big brassy balls he guy who was taken on the power and the thievery in this town that

we are all victims of i guess. and to think grace i worked for them at american coney island they are beautiful people. i got one of these in d.c. do you know what happened to me in d.c.? they are very smart people i go to the bookstore and i see i see i didn't vote for trump or clinton. that's that's the way it works. i get to pick. it's nobody's fault. but but then again it's everybody's faults. so without joann i don't think the thoughts of this book would have coalesced or i would have been able to see or understand

what we were living through until she put into perspective and i will read that to you but this is a a trip across america over three years from the guy that invented fox news the border of texas, flint, ferguson the campaign trail with trump what else? what is meaningful to you? arizona. north dakota. flint. ferguson equals the bundy ranch in nevada. we found at some level people are angry at government. at washington or flint or why people get blasted in the streets. why you why you pay and you pay

and you pay and you find your life and your lifestyle slipping away. that is what we found. if you feel that way you are not alone and you are the majority. don't lose each other. we are we are not each other's enemy. there is some responsibility don't burn stuff down. do not steamroll and we will be just fine. i would like to quote justice hugo black in his landmark decision your time versus united states of america in the pentagon papers and it turns out from truman to nixon they were lying. 35,000 men lost their lives to perpetuate their lie. so they printed the pentagon papers the supreme court said they are allowed to.

but the press serves the government not the government and that is where we are living these days i think. the media shrinking. advertising money is consolidating but they won't push me around because i will walk right fuck out the door. so thank you. [applause] in between all of the space is those that are sticking together i will read you the stories about hijinks and firearms you have to be very careful about that. we came out of the deep south

but they're not voting for the unions in detroit. a man putting a squirrel in a deep freezer jesus h christ a man had to do what he had to do to eat not only the south no different in the north in my hometown. a man fishing from. in the lake then the second and the third it doesn't come that much in threes random bit bobbing along the banks of the detroit river. the sheets billowing in the current also a suitcase and a skill saw by the waterline. a fisherman calls the police. he he says i know you. tv reporters on the other closest thing to celebrities in flyover country. good tidings are exchanged that

is when you know you made it and the "sh*t show" will start. say cheese. so now the men that are still fishing from the these are the unrehearsed moments in natural interaction between the white cop and the black bystander them versus us the hungry masses this unscripted reality is too complicated and too real. what the fuck are you doing? this is a crime scene he has a pale full of fish he said what you expect me to do? [laughter] >> okay. calm down it's not the and of the world. oh, my god i just did a swing

through the east coast nbc cbs. that's all they do all this stuff is going on out here. like all the jobs we have and to let more people than ever are living in apartments and why is that going up?? you feel that. wait a minute. i remember 2,008. remember? it wasn't that long ago. so from that perspective the cities were coming unglued by that political leadership with barbecue and swing states like iowa. they may have been on another

continent for all presidential candidates were talking about it. yes police brutality on unarmed black men continue to fill the airwaves and make me wonder was this a predictable moment in the cycle that repeats itself every 50 years? or was this an exaggerated discontent of heinous 102nd clips recycled over and over on cable news?? one thing for sure the summer 2015 would be long and violent but nothing like the hot blood he summer of 1968. then more than 100 cities burned in the wake of the assassination of doctor martin luther king. he died at the hands of james earl ray, a white supremacist the worst of the rights were in chicago which we visited.

murder was on the rise but chicago set a record to surpass hundred homicides for the first time in its history. on the political front senator kennedy was assassinated by an arab nationalist after leaving the democratic california primary the convention was held in chicago and ended in a riot between a riot between police and antiwar protesters. the segregationist governor of alabama 146 electoral votes. in the in the end that country elected nixon and we know how that worked out. at the same time the membership of the black panther party was awaiting trial for a a separate incident to ambush and assassinate california police officers. the weatherman a homegrown leftist terrorist group to embark on a campaign of domestic

findings had its first dinghy in ann arbor michigan college campuses across the nation were seized by student protesters speaking out at columbia university in new york. the axis dental threat devices? forget about it the bloodiest week of the vietnam war for servicemen came february 1968 as the vietcong launched the tet offensive. but then consider two years earlier in the summer of 1919 with three dozen cities burned in the great race riot that consumed the nation. what happened in baltimore and chicago. over the course of one week that came known as the red summer 38 people 23 blacks 23 blacks and 15 whites killed in chicago and the homes of 1000 families 1,000 families burned at the hands of black-and-white.

people were people were in the trolley cars and paul out and executed violence was quelled only after the state militia was called out and in the aftermath the city assembled integrated commission on race relations to study the causes of the riot. its findings the negro in chicago a study of race relations and riots were published in 1922 but easily 1922 but easily could have been published today. because of the traditional ostracism in those daily insults have doubtless provoked even in normal minded negroes of pathological attitude toward society i desire for social revenge might will be expected to be resulting from their facetious and insulting manner in which the negroes are treated by officers of the law. it was thomas who was no doubt. people were angry it was

amplified by social media where you were called to action in the middle -- matter of minutes and then to legally stock pile medical -- legal weaponry. but where were we really as a society? treading somewhere just below sea level? one thing was certain tv was not offering much perspective we were yodeling out of our holes yodeling at that the sky is falling. do you want to hear the white side now? do you want to? this is a travelogue i'm just giving you the philosophy we managed to scrape up so we need

some applause after that i kind of like it. that or a jackal. one or the other. [laughter] hello washington. you remember or again the bird sanctuary takeover? then they say they will start the range war with the federal government walking all over our rights and taking the bird sanctuaries back from arizona. it is 50 below in oregon and they want to return to the rightful owner which is you. one of the sidekicks ended up taking a bullet to break through the fbi barricade he got out of the car you have to kill me

which happened. they literally asked for it and received it at the hands of law enforcement the white lives matter chatter from supporters but little more everybody knows if you run a police roadblock it will not work out well. or as an exotic white man and exception of an extreme case of orchestrated by himself in concert with his courtship of the camera. and others get no media attention and those under suspicious circumstances without an army. since that shooting in ferguson the washington post had taken upon itself to track down and tabulate every death by copying the details surrounding these incidents.

here are the media knew before the law enforcement agencies are not required to report incidents of did the force to the fbi. in general and then to be 200 for 50% higher than historically reported. think about that. in 2015 and 16 about twice as many white people died at the hands of police officers as black people and in many of these cases like the suspected drunk driver who was shot multiple times through his rear window by a cop who jumped into the pickup bed there was graphic video call to question deadly force but where was the media? to be clear. to to be clear by any standard of measurement blacks have to get the shit and of this deck

and they are more likely to die at the hands of police but why? but the statistics would reveal that the overwhelming majority of whites who die at the hands of police come from the shadier side of the tracks the poor white boy bad teeth and poor grammar the rowdy one who misbehaves on saturday night who might smoke meth underemployed maybe in next con or a product of the desperate middle class has few friends in the media world because that is populated by upper-class white people who are decidedly who discuss discussed the notion of white privilege the media is the embodiment of white privilege or at least they were and in their mind they have convinced themselves they have overcome this paradox through education

and intellectual magazine articles and psychotherapy the white elite liberal feels they are no longer privilege but they are self-aware and self made and down with the program in the hierarchy of american life and so the white media is down for the black man but that only comes around when there is a catastrophe like katrina or flint or police shooting. but again what about the poor white man? raised with advantage but believe they are scrubbed clean of it they still tag the poor white man how do they know? they have spent no time in his living room or at his bar. to then he is a bore into racist to dig any deeper is an exercise in inconvenience they seem to

think he resides only in appalachia although he is right under their noses from boston to bakersfield so when they die at the hands of law enforcement it is universally agreed upon by the media types that they must have deserved it after all the black man is a a target simply by virtue of his skin color but possible defense cutter white man muster? police do not kill white people with their privilege unless they have it coming the black media hops on board and then turns their heads away as they too have little contact with the white white lower-class their interest lies more in their credibility within the struggling black community to which they no longer belong if they ever did. studies show what you should already know. regardless of race people are more violent the poor they are the more violent and poor they

are more contact they're there likely to have with the cops the media seems determined only that stereotype and skin tone is seen. [applause] are you aboard? i've been working out a little bit. [laughter] not much to do. then we will do q&a. or we can stop. i didn't come to talk. no? okay. we will talk about the media because they are not here. they are all hanging out meeting the politicians and the lobbyists.

what does hugo black say? user the governed not the governors. like at the cocktail table. bullshit. tee3. come home. we need you. but god i miss i miss doing tv. that was fun. tv doesn't have to suck. i don't watch a lot of tv now i know why. [laughter] but through it all the public's trust everything but now we get into the campaign season. those were all time all-time lows donald trump and hillary

clinton became the characters for the presidency in modern history. help us washington. [laughter] i think we invented frozen peas in detroit. think about that. to be hit by a cadillac in detroit in a town that was haunted by cadillac it is remarkable what has happened but then from hillary clinton became the least favorite character defeat the presidency and as for congress one polling firm found brussels sprouts advice cockroaches colonoscopies and gonorrhea were more popular than the elected representatives. apparently the american people realized taking it up the from a a proctologist for your own

well-being more than congress not so much. [laughter] from the lowest level in recorded history trump repeatedly calling them out as dishonest maybe hyper partisan posture in the face of an ever fading audience and whatever the reason no one to blame but ourselves the hillary e-mail leaks have confirmed for people with a long suspected when it comes to politicians and the press it is a dinner party in washington d.c. when the reporters are having an off the record conversation from the clinton campaign representatives none of them informs the public of what they heard the journalist say look at the talking points they offer encouragement and questions in advance of the debate they trade independence for access to the

occasional inconsequential but on the other side conservatives were advising trump on his run one going so far to say nothing more than a talkshow host what was that supposed to mean he did no fact checking was larry king the gold standard now? this went on at the local level as well at a birthday party here from which media personalities shamefully posted online pictures of themselves wasting classes of's to the official all paid by the official subordinates. these personalities attended conventions and was at the kiosk with lobbyists and politicians they were supposed to cover impartially they knew this was good for them why else would

anybody drink with a reporter? the mass edl was gluttonous for fame and the press awarded themselves prizes and statuettes to report these as important events to view the ordinary citizen. every year big washington parties where they don taxi dozing gowns to introduce themselves as with the stars and comedians who play fake reporters better than real reporters. and then as if to repay the favor real porters show up in fictitious movies playing their real-life selves. and from a political show up on a news program passing off as an independent analyst. forgive me the ordinary citizen confusion at least the cockroach knows it's always a cockroach

[applause] one more. thank you the vast majority are good. it is difficult to read the bad ones out but for obvious reasons it's hard to be a cop. that's why you always hear about the acyl -- e3 those who are heavily armed and off the track. what is the only form of government they don't even know you. city hall does not call you. the congressman does not call you back. think about that without rich people i refuse to classify them

universally and i tell you right now and right here in the city while i was in flint in september 2 months before the police sergeant styles which was wounded and attempted to capture a madman who shot and killed his own mother then he was the 40th 40th police officer to america to die in the line of duty i was first introduced to him on the streets of detroit for bankruptcy story about the city and its effects of police. let me say if bad cops were truly the problem in america. then i will wait think about if those are truly the problem wait.

then men like can styles was the solution he was the squad leader that hunted the worst of humanity murders of children and the criminally insane his crew often found themselves in dark alleyways and abandoned houses the only white yielded from shards of moon light and in his 20 years on the job he never discharged his firearm no discipline or conduct complaints of any kind on his file. okay? he died trying to catch a man a man who tried to murder his own father rampage across the city with a shotgun somebody called the police and sergeant styles answered no questions asked and then he was dead.

i called his men to offer condolences but decided to stay away from his widow that is a proper thing for a news person to do i learn that a long time ago in the aftermath of 911 that a reporter knocking on the door of a grieving family was nothing more than emotional acetone which will erode what little is left holding it together. i got a call from julian and from one of her husbands colleagues. there was something she wanted to tell the world so we pulled up and parked a few houses down a respectable distance so family and friends might have a few moments to see us and adjust to our presence. the police department had a ceremonial car parked out front of her home in oversized decal

it was a fucking joke. then there was a saltwater fish tank inside he said she had no idea how to care for but she tried. matt readied the camera she took a breath. i forgive the person who did this to him she said because i know in my heart if he knew what he took from us he would not have done this we need more love in this country right now. my heart a does it have not in many years widow forgives her husband's murder than asks all of us to love one another but yet who showed her and her children love? at a funeral he was given a

posthumous promotion to captain but no increase in benefits for his children or wife he would still be a sergeant and because of the city's bankruptcy the family would no longer receive health coverage through the power of the woman's grace projected into the lawmakers they granted her healthcare benefits for five years when the oldest boy turns ten he has ten he has to fend for himself but the funeral bill despite pomp and circumstance and the mayor in attendance doubting statistics it would not be paid for by the city he died serving that by the family he left behind. if there was a war on police in america it felt like the snipers were on their side criminals and activist double talking politicians and commentators but instead of a war widow calls for

love. and all i could do for her with the power of tv was to give her five years of pediatrician visits. her words, her situation the faces of her small boy emotionally got to meet her husband kept his end of the bargain to serve the politicians and lawyers and the bankers did not. it was too late for styles to break the contract another crushing example between the government and its people races and classes that it was tantalizingly clear the white man and a cops widow in detroit from the streets of ferguson and the latina woman polishing

marble in simi valley had so much in common but could not find a common ground and tv only spins confusion looking at disorder as if it was it was corrosive i needed air and i needed i needed to get out. thank you for coming. [applause] do you want to drink a beer or a beer or ask questions? before i forget. afterwards at the american coney island downtown there will be a little after a l drinks we little after a little after party with some motown and some drinks we are all families everybody is invited.

come here. before i take questions get a question in your mind petitioned man a remarkable kid he will give us a rendition of the star-spangled banner? do what you like. this is america. dulcet out there. ♪

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any questions? but you don't just want to keep playing the same bars on friday night but that's coming. trust me. >> was an interview he always wanted to conduct and how do you imagine that going with who? >> none.

it's all in a moment. i know what i want to do if we were in north dakota a preacher in the oil patch. i want that guy and focus on that guy. if it is trumped than i want trumped. so that's how i approach it. to the website i tried to i tried to look up online but it said blocked because of a virus did they take over?? >> my brother redesigned it

years ago and i i don't know how to upload stuff. i'm trying to get read of it but i'm afraid that if i do my name will disappear. i suppose i could learn. [laughter] find me on facebook. [laughter] . . . .

and analyzing and having a variety of sources for our so-called media input. seems to be a general yo m condemnation. it's not fair to characterize something like the atlantic magazine in and the same as fox national news. >> it isn't a media book. -- it will all become apparent.

good point. there's different pieces to talk about why is there so much violence on local tv you can make it really quickly. it's at the top of the news there's three or four or five just horrible things. here's the sound bites and you put that together and don 20 minutes. we are why you can do that all day long like flipping grilled cheese sandwiches. cnn knows there are no reporters there. there are commentators. where is the news that gets broadcast coming from? but again remember we talked about the white working class

when i read that thing about white people being shot the liberal elite media but then they start off with the conservative media because they threw the white working class out because they revolted against the masses. so funny thing is anybody that stands in judgment or observes should take a look at themselves and i think i did it to myself like you see our mistakes and biases and you just have to know it's not a sign and you are right to be skeptical of it and if they push you to cynicism that is our problem for doing it and some is better than others. in the morning i read "new york times," "washington post," wall street journal, associated press

but even if the opinions leaked into the pages because they are trying to get you to click the facts are pretty straight and pretty good. i don't know how you think you know what you know but it's usually coming out of their and so say what you want, believe how you want. i am no leader of the society, but i've been to all of these things. i've worked at fox and the new yorker into detroit. i've got a pretty good idea. and your husband, that's who i admire, he is the real deal. he consumes and then projects in a reasonable and sophisticated and calling but we are losing

that because of numbers. i submit to you the numbers can be interesting. the reporter must stay up late when he or she isn't getting paid and free the contracts that don't show up asking a question you don't know the answer to. that is what needs to be done. it's just getting silly. who needs that. [applause] the new take all of a sudden the grass is greener, the water is colder, there are no problems. everybody is excited. more than a perception that has changed because for the first

time that has delivered a comfort level that has eluded a lot of people over the years. what is your take? >> most of us are from the region we know so i've never seen this. that's fantastic. but at what price is it sustainable? put it to you this way the detroit public schools are the worst performing schools in america. that's our children. like we live together. [applause] need to decide we are going to look out for kids, but for

600 million, 700 million the whole state is going to bail out. 600 million get me some 600 million in the city to give to a billionaire. [applause] we lost 20 million a year on how to deal. 12 million to finance and 8 million to use as a revenue share, 20 million gone out of the budget. in order to recoup that, in order to break even for the public bank in the, detroit for 20 bankrupt, what kind of jobs what you have would you have to create fy15 grade to pay that back? remember we don't get sales tax

for it we don't get the property tax because the city technically owns it into the image is for 1 dollar a year for 95 years, so it is in income tax. here's what it would take to make it back for 20 million. it would take 1,000 millionaires each year to be working in detroit. to create 1,000 millionaires today to pay it back. how about 10,000. they wanted a regional transit.

if you want to look at the budget, 2025 to 2035 at ten years adjusted for the current rate of inflation. their own calculation, the ridership will diminish in terms of the fare collection. you see the number go up, 20 million or 25 million the current rate of inflation over ten years that is 25%. we don't have a lot of money to a. that is a shooting gallery out there. the fbi refused to take the statistics. the governors say that the facts will show that. what's please make it less money and fewer arrests that lead to a

decrease in crime. we can do better. okay i will stop. that is all great i don't know if you can hear me but what is the solution lacks >> keep on going. >> and what does that mean? people now were people making a difference in getting into the city and making change. what does that mean?

spin it means actually engaging. >> instead of just complaining about it or talking about it or asking questions and actually making a difference attending the state council meetings. >> instead of asking questions and challenging what you see, that's not engaging? >> but what about the rest of us? >> so that's what we do. what should we do? >> i am not telling you what to do. whatever you do you have the right to do. i'm not moving in. i can't afford it. [laughter]

>> where is your car registered? >> i am paying my own water. my car is registered thank you. [laughter] >> we are all here and we made a commitment so we will all do the work. your way, my way and i've got your back but i'm not dragging it down. i'm going to be on your knee cap that's what i'm going to do. i attend all the meetings. we just sold a condo down in

detroit, $2 million. my bad. check out that website because we are going to blow it up. >> we are going to give you those three or four so keep your eyes peeled. we've been doing it for a while but we are going to blow it up. [applause] >> is there any truth to the term fake news? but it's more like a superficial it's not fake fake like martians landed or you are quick to get it in but it's not done baking.

i will say this i don't know about you, i shouldn't say this because i would like to work again but i'm saying it. i don't remember a single facebook add the word story that influenced my mind. i don't remember but i do remember fox news and cnn. [applause] i will sign some books. [inaudible] i am so proud that you speak truth to power, and i enjoyed the things i see and i hope that you keep on. why are you not on the news?

speak to [laughter] >> a lot of reasons it gets to you and you need a break and this is my forth. fourth. every five years i just do that. at some point when you get too close, you are not allowed to keep the link. let me be charitable about it. when we started it was like the beatles she loves you. she loves you, yeah yeah.

but then it turns into ie and the walrus, the music changed and it became psychotropic we were getting to places and we didn't want to go back. it doesn't work that way. okay. change is good, life is okay. i'm going to live life because somebody in here is living in a box, eating out of a box, staring at a box, a cubicle.

going to take my life as soon as he gave it to me. or peter frampton and you will never you will never hear from us again. [laughter] which isn't bad, they got a good ticket. did i upset anybody? the final word of the night goes to me. [laughter] >> they are going to hate me in washington. >> you have seen a lot of horrible stuff. you've seen people mistreated and you are telling us about it. i find what i like most about reading your work is my inability to empathize with people i might otherwise dismiss their feelings and what's going on in their lives exhibit is really helpful to me. and i guess along the line of the questions asked earlier in a different way of putting it, do you see stuff that is hopeful

and also what keeps you from going totally bonkers? [laughter] >> you, my wife. because you said that, you are out there. he was like the beautiful mind and then move become an astrophysicist that hits his kids. but we were standing there talking and he said [inaudible]

and the light went off and that is what keeps me floating. [applause] >> thank you for coming. it's a beautiful library. come down and get a library card. [applause]

[inaudible conversations] booktv visited capitol hill to ask members of congress what they are reading this summer. >> i hope to read a new book by jon meacham called john meacham called the soul of america. i have heard him discuss it and it's about the history of the country and i understand why the book reviews it is inspiring and i can't wait to read it. i also want to read the biography of one of my favorite american presidents, dwight eisenhower called "the age of eisenhower," and it's by the professor at the university of virginia. when i was a little boy i had the honor of meeting dwight eisenhower and he's always inspired me and is now rated one of the best presidents in american history. i'm also going to read chris

matthews biography, "bobby kennedy." i think that chris matthews has done an excellent job in this regard and of course we commemorate this year the 50th anniversary of the tragic assassination of senator kenned. so these are three books at the top of my list to read thischanf summer. >> send your summer reading lisy that booktv on twitter, instead grandma or facebook.