we were free of the shackles of the eu and open to the world and true to the buccaneer and roots. then you have thersea may with the very reasons taken over who was opposed to brexit. she campaigned against it. it set the tone for the whole process event. the political leadership and definitely the bureaucratic apparatus sees it as an

opportunity to be seized and exploited but as a problem to be mitigated in handled somehow. i remember early on when the attitude seemed to be taking hold the discussion at that time was about hard brexit or soft brexit. the soft brexit was like make it less of a sudden break. that's not the point. of course it needs to be hard brexit because anything other than that is not actually leaving you are still there kind of participating in the single market.

there kind of in it. you have the freedom to take advantage of the opportunity. of course has to it has to be a hard brexit. is it an open or closed brexit. let's roll out the red carpet. let's cut corporation taxes. the number one destination for business investment and entrepreneurship. and that's argument i made. of course now that happened. we are where we are. i think it's worse than anyone could possibly imagine in terms of ending up with in terms of not really leaving. and also worsen that.

they could've really been a long-term success. no investment in infrastructure. with the british establishment. it's clear that the eu want to make it up as painful as possible. their entire incentive is to punish the uk for leaving.

it was always ridiculous. just leave and figured out. i just turns out to be rubbish. that was a phrase that was used. because if you leave the eu. the next day is totally ridiculous. and that will never happen. one after another. the consequences of just leaving. the negativity.

people believed them. because that none this whole thing is a disaster. if the checkers deal. as you have a change of prime ministers. i think that's certainly what should happen. i don't know whether it will happen. i'm not connected to the current ins and outs of the british conservative party. i think an open brexit clean break. that's actually more important than anything else. there's no sign of anything like that happening right now.

i would like to invite members of the audience to ask questions. looking for it. apologies if this has already been addressed. how do you explain the popularity. it's absolutely part of the

populism story. on the substance and policy. they need to take this seriously. the economic hardship with the 80% or so. they are not working and the knowledge economy. the deep and the resentment at

the evident. i think one of the most important context is. anymore make it all come crashing down. it was the federal reserve. they could not meets the 400-dollar bill. an unexpected expense. nearly 20% of american

workers. subject to noncompete. now they would be applied to people at work at mcdonald's. they really spoke to that. the huge issue. and yet i was good for them. i think they plague so many people. he really spoke to that. they haven't head that. we may like to think about the revolution. and the conservative ideas.

certainly not true today. i think there is a real substantive reason. not to really call it the 30% of voters who may vote later. and then the personality aspect of it is just the same. it's a weird comparison to make. we like the fact that he looks a mess. it just seems authentic. were sick of all these people who just sound the same. they need to get them. many of those left populist

policies would be deeply damaging. they develop our own response. it's a really big characteristic of my ideas. they are pro- markets. but real markets. i'm now drifting off. another really big theme in the book is antitrust. that's not conservative. we've a pro- market argument i will stop there. think you see.

and thank you for the work that you did on the brexit vote as well. it was fun being on the same side there in that campaign. i just wanted to push back a little bit. it's something i argued a lot with. from the former bosses in the uk so after simple principle question. why is it the responsibility of companies to compensate employees for their rents and fuel bills and when and it be better as a first step. to actually look at undoing in the terms of housing and zoning laws that rise up the house of closing.

wouldn't it be better to actually undo rather than lament that they don't meet those costs. and i agree nearly all of what you said. i know another part of the book. it's one of the ideas. were trying to think of a name of everything. it is basically to say every piece of land should either be marked for development or nature. and its development. you get rid of all controls and just leave it. there is a really interesting model that we did apple actually implement in the uk. it was neighborhood zoning.

they don't behave like that. they are nimbys when they feel like it's been imposed on them by some external bureaucracy. in relation to the cost of living aspect. those often structural reforms are to take a long time to bear fruit. i keep coming back to this pragmatic approach. you people who are really hurting and you have this wealth at bureaucracy. the other principle i principal i would articulate back to you.

i think it is one that ring true for most people. is that employers should make sure that their work can live on what they own. or how the government do it through this bureaucracy. and as the other bit of this that i don't like. it feels like it can be a fair and reasonable relationship. when you are dependent on the government to be able to live i think that's worse.

even though they are working full-time. i do agree that a worker who is working full-time should be able to provide for his or her family. i would also like to bring up a couple of concerns about the living wage idea. how in your mind with that be different from a taxpayer subsidy. and second, could you envision it being an opt in for businesses. if not you concerned that this may increase the role of government in a different way. it's different from the government subsidy. you're not getting any money from the government.

you're talking about the operation of it. i actually fought some ways about thinking about the information. you may want to use it it was an opportunity that it was a living wage system. but maybe that that's too bureaucratic.

in order to be real it would need to be a mandate just like that minimum wages. the cost of living varies. this would be applied on the city by city basis. not to state-by-state. it would be the law. that's my concept of this. a question from a british contingent here. steve, thanks very much. you must get this question over dinner and events like this all the time. you are asked to perform a similar role for what you performed at downey street.

what would be your three-point strategy for the president in the coming years. i do think that one of the most important things that he seem to convey imac and be like the other politicians that shaped things up and do things differently. and one of the things that would really demonstrate that is true. they are less structurally important. but really significant in

terms of same i was different. the most famous promises they drained the swamp and built the wall. there's actually something more important i will get to. i think just delivering those two things. i think what ever we may think of it it just needs to be done. a very practical and sensible thing to do. get it done. i can't understand why it's so difficult to get it done. the argument about congress finding it. i don't understand.

i just don't understand why this can't be done immediately. i think it was a resident because everyone knows and understands how deep the corruption is. they actually have a list of drain the swamp pledges. it's how you really start to attack the corruption. being in conflict donors. making it impossible to recruit themselves. why would i give the money.

if i can raise money from the businesses. that's how it works. that's total corruption. doing something about that and really get into the getting to the heart of the corruption. would be powerful. the big one is if you think about why he may be elected. that whole story to the economic revival. i was disappointed in the campaign. one of the first moments i thought this guy is really serious. the second thing that he published.

go for that. the business confidence. that we get from this. the alert element that's missing that we haven't seen. but then comes and wages is infrastructure. and a connection with infrastructure is really important. the reason that we've have this in parallel eve have the productivity. slow down. and they are scratching their heads about what's going on with productivity. the work is more productive you pay the more. the infrastructure promise promised was not just good in terms of building things right now that create jobs. actually really good infrastructure leads to productivity which can lead to

wage rises. big increases in business investment since the tax. i think it's contributing to the wage increases. but the long-term effects were not sure. it leads to great productivity with wages. i think that be something around infrastructure story there interesting ways you can do it through financing. getting it done. we can put that is number one. on the really important point of the infrastructure. i was really upset that they didn't do that first.

it was one of the areas where you have political agreement. probably a disagreement about how you finance it you could can come to some kind of agreement the first to declare from the democrat side. in the offshore money and et cetera. you can get creative agreement between democrats and republicans on the superstructure point. i hasn't turned out like that. the infrastructure could be a way of bringing people together. thank you steve for your presentation today.

and the four pillars. and the one that i'm particularly in juris said in as the family i am a recent transplant here to the area from jacksonville florida. i see a vast disc friends difference that you already mentioned. as i drive through areas such as the dc area. i really see some of the issues that some of our country is facing. so goes the family. we can say so goes the nation. we can almost say that some of the issues that we see in our country today whether it be from poverty, and income. is directly correlated to issues that we head with the family. my question then begins and

you mentioned one point that every child should have a stable home. now if you look at our community across the nation there is a vast amount of kids in the foster care system. i'm 100% for reunification of children with their families but i have a fundamental issue when we reunify and we have parents who are not equipped but the government mandates that at some point or sometime. whether they are broken or not. i'm talking the parents. some of your thoughts and ideas on fixing the issue. >> i could talk all day about it. i completely agree with everything you said. i'm just at the beginning of

the process of launching a new business and exact area you're talking about. i talk about it a bit in the book. when you first hear about it conservatives might think this is not what we should all be about. bear with me. parenting education. i spent a lot of time working on these issues and the government as i mentioned. it was all about very hands-on intervention there were just totally go to the reels. with total dysfunction that you wouldn't believe. it's so shocking.

most were with single-parent families. i remember when you get the average number of children in these families is five. so chaotic. just unbelievable. we actually started to do something about it. all of the families on the receiving end of multiple interventions by government they had disconnected. no one is focused on helping to turn that family around. and had one dedicated a family worker per family it would literally go there every day.

that was a very aggressive government program. that's exactly what they need is a nanny. more broadly parents right across the scale i spent a lot of time in parenting classes. and typically parenting classes i required a parents when their children go off the rails. and you the parent are going to go to a parenting class. as you've done a bad job. when you actually go to them. really consenting emerges.

it's almost the same words that we used. i was dragged, kicking and screaming. almost from the first moment excuse me if i had have this seven years ago. my life would've been completely different. there is a real value to actually. it's not so much in the instruction. they're in group settings. and this is a coach who gives tips on how to get the baby to sleep. all of the things that are part of the stable loving household. but the real power is in the conversation and in the parents actually talking and listening to other parents. and realizing that the struggles that they have are

not just their own but everyone finds us they actually talk to each other. i very powerful process. and there is evidence that parenting style is the single biggest determinant. more than economic state of the family. it's the way they. that makes the difference. we are wrong to think that that is innate and cannot because. so another idea in the book is not to the government delivering this nonprofits

social enterprises. i'm literally about to start a private sector business that will do this. it's not about the government doing it. our goal as policymakers is what i tried to implement in the uk was to make parenting education turn it around from being what it is today to make it something that is a positive thing of all parents. we started a parenting voucher program in the uk. it really can it took off. that i think is a genuine answer again. in the end this is about helping working people and working families. as is a realtor that works. parenting education really works. and something i would really like to see spread much more widely than it is at the

moment. from a negative to positive. we had one more question. thank you very much. for your presentation. i really want to applaud your focus on the family and on education because i think in fact those two areas that underpin almost all of the problems that we face as a society. i want to push back on the idea about a living wage and the neck economic idea. and it really think that it holds up contact with reality in the world you talk about how wages increase with productivity. but the proposal in fact would disconnect productivity and

wage rates at the lower end of the scale because you would wind up paying everyone up to a certain level the same wage rate essentially. and the problem we head in our society is going back to family and education you have a large number of potential workers who are coming out of the school system they can do basic mathematics. in some cases they are practically illiterate. certainly in standard english. and yet you would say that any business that hires us people is required to pay them whatever the living wage is by the estimates i've seen is significantly higher than today's minimum wages. or even higher than the proposed $15 you are compressing the wage rates at

the bottom of the scale and forcing businesses to hire people that don't have the basis basic skills to be productive. it sounds very appealing to say that anybody that works full-time should earn a living wage. i would love to be employed writing poetry for 40 hours a week. let me respond to it. they would be employed. i will tell you what's coming your way. if you don't have a really constructive alternative answer.

the wages productivity. that is seriously happening. it's actually being implemented. as we speak in california. for the reason that it detaches. my idea is not a universal income. it's a flaw. so the productivity point is will taken. but it's a flaw. and second to be for everyone. i think that the very good point you made about the skills and contribution to the young people moving in. i think that's right. therefore i would be open to same or people who are married

or have children. not having those disincentive effects. there is a major employer in this country right now you're right it's much higher. or talk about 15 our minimum wage. there is a really big employer in america who place as a matter of policy that they believe for social reasons that it pays the lidge -- the living wage to the worker. and private-sector employers may surprise you. it's cosco. their whole business margins

matter hugely in the retail. they pay out living wage as a matter of policy. it's a second possible to make it work. i definitely agree that it's not ideal. although objections that we've heard. it's not in isolation. they're all our alternatives in what's happening right now. which is the welfare dependency which i hate. and the bureaucracy associated with that. i would could become from the other side. i'm just trying to be practical. a tremendous discussion.

i like to thank steve hilton for a wonderful discussion today. and i'm sure we will continue to discuss your ideas for the months and years to come. hopefully you will come back to heritage heritage in the very near future and i would like to thank everyone for joining us today. we look forward for hosting you all again at heritage in the very near future. thank you very much. steve will be assigning copies of his new book outside. if anyone like to have their copy signed by steve. [inaudible conversations]

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