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rally and if a voice can change a room it can change us that he. . >> i don't think political tribalism is filling the vacuum of the local tribes that make people happy with long-term invocations or meaningful work all of those are from technological history. [inaudible conversations]
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okay. welcome. tonight we are here to introduce sarah and also from undergraduate studies university honors lecture in english, she taught sarah in her honor sarah one - - seminar on creative writing and takes credit for her success. [laughter] please help me to welcome our guests. [applause] . >> welcome it is a thrill i cannot even tell you what a thrill it is i first met sarah before she even started at ku i was fortunate enough to have
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her freshman writing seminar so you want to be a writer still going on after 24 years. and as the seminar assistant for the same class her senior year because she became a tenacious thinker and writer hungry to explore its own world and tell the truth she holds the msa of nonfiction writing as well as english their previous education is eight southern kansas schools to a two room prairie schoolhouse teaching creative reading writing and journalism washburn columbia the writing barn in austin texas. she has reported on public
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policy for the guardian, "new york times", new york or in harvard more than 1000 new stories with essays and criticisms and the first person to be listed as a notable and best american essay looking for her fellow at the kennedy school of government for her new book heartland. the meditation of intergenerational poverty and for the national book award i am honored to introduce t13 sarah. [applause] .
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>> i am sure she is a hero to many myself included and also thank you to all of you for being here this is the sixth city i have been in in seven days. [laughter] i am still standing. but i say that because i want you to know there is a special place in my heart i have been looking forward to this event in particular i have a know a lot of old friends in the audience and current friends but i am so honored by the turnout. thank you to the public library which is an incredible institution that has long been part of my heart i lived in
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lawrence if you count my time 50 years in undergraduate's almost half of my life and then to call for hosting and so now lawrence freaking kansas here we are. [laughter] so i want to talk about the social economic class to what i do as a journalist but that intersects with a lot of america with race and gender but that experience that is under discussed in the 21st century digital seemingly
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post- moment that is raw geography so i will talk about that tonight so i thought i would tell you why lawrence is such a special place to me. i grew up on a wheat and cattle farm just west of wichita raised largely by my grandparents who left school in sixth and ninth grade respectively to work. first-generation college student and first of my family to have the privilege really to be paid for my passion rather than breaking my body in labor and i have work though starts - - those sorts of jobs before that that somebody pays me for what i
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was sent here to do. so that aspect is with my first brush with florence because as a high school the county seat west of wichita. >> go eagles. [laughter] in that school it was a very ambitious kid public school was an only place where a kid like me where education had not been harnessed because there were no time or resources for harnessing it public school for me was the only place i would access the opportunity that i craved and needed so i heard something to the counselor called the kansas regents honors academy.
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so at that age as a teenager in a pre- internet moment so i didn't have a computer until i was a sophomore in college from my 1980s childhood was more like the fifties and that has to do with economic disadvantage but i heard about this honors academy i had never been to a summer camp because then you work the wheat harvest so i got accepted maybe one of 100 kids in the state it happened to be at ku that year. i think maybe it may have been the first time i was even in
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lawrence once or twice even in kansas city we were so grounded by our farm and limited in our travels that even this piece of the country so close theoretically in proximity was very exotic and faraway in many ways i remember thinking all of the beautiful trees and the hills i could sit in college classrooms on the university of kansas campus and have my intelligence and work validated by fancy professors who did fancy things it was a transformative moment perhaps because of that experience came here from my undergrad whatever you see me doing as a journalist much of that is owed to the university kansas j school where i graduated.
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[applause] in 2002 and was the last class to receive the old-fashioned newspaper training because right at that time it was called media convergence so from then on the training was different with different media for the internet era. but having a lot to do with where i'm at today and that is where i got to know mary. so as people in my industry are encouraged to do when i got there there was a palpable sense i have begun to develop as a student at ku but it really came to a point in the
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spaces that i encountered in new york city including columbia university rye went to graduate school of the otherness of where i came from somehow in those places even in the american story where we tell ourselves but there's nobody from where i am from. was in our culture so that was a formative experience so maybe somebody can help me but there is a quote that i didn't become a kansan until i went to new york. [laughter] and i remember. i was the kid in school very ambitious, focused, straight a's and on warpath of
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accomplishments and you will see how that relates to the class issue. so i was the kid the teachers that she will leave to say that she got out and that is a phrase i take issue with but when i was in new york surrounded by the ohio version in west virginia version of me and they became new yorkers breathing a sigh of relief are meant to be my whole life but for me it was the opposite to fortified my sense of belonging which was never a place i thought to escape but in particular what my industry required to accomplish the
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things i wanted to do but the second i did that i moved back to kansas. [laughter] i was a freelance journalist , a professor also a grant writer for the social service agencies one of which is van gogh and i bet there are some people here. [applause] i was very fortunate to write some grant proposals and do some develop work for them also in topeka. [applause] also to apply for federal grants for low income kansans to have representation in the judicial system i learned a lot of lessons that made their way into the book like the violence against women act it is very much a book about women by the way you will find
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my dad and grandpa in the were construction workers that is the vision of the white working class but women are the stars of the show my mother and grandmother and for that reason and these policies that affect women and education when i was in the nonprofit sector was huge. so i will be just a little bit from the book i always feel that when writers it is a little offputting to hear their own sentences so i will not do that but i am looking forward to your questions as well. i talked about my relationship to kansas in lawrence and the
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broader context of kansas but lawrence specifically it has a special place in my heart as i was pondering this on my way here some of you may feel this way to that in this town that lawrence and i have particular things in common. i've always been someone who's interested in history so it's a story about my family. there was a lot of research some of that was piecing together and with that chaos
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and to be aware of those legacies to which i was born. and even dangerous. and then to embrace but to the whole country. but to my journalism but to defy that cultural and political expectation of the red state. [applause] while heartland is not a political book or the way that i see it anyway, it is a
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challenge to readers who may stereotype our place and our people as a cultural or political monolith to consider the complexity and nuances of the people on the ground and i don't have to convince you all of that because you know, that. i also recall that you do like beer a lot. [laughter] so it's about class and place and where i'm from right now there is a buzzword in natural discourse - - national discourse raise your hand if you've heard the phrase to be recently fixated the urban divide most people raise their
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hands. as a kid that grew up on the farm to attend the ivy league school even in the context of the wonderful university of kansas i found myself an outlier in many ways so where i'm from would seem to be a rare and peculiar place in a modern postindustrial highly urbanized story. i will read a little bit about that. so i wanted to say just in the past week, now for several years i have been receiving messages but so few people write about class in these issues specifically and with the ownership of the plays
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that i come from but for somebody to feel like they recognize their own story so it's not even necessarily about me or my work but there are those people who have those people experienced similar to mine that have a platform of discussion that has been true for several years but coming out september 18, it has been incredible and so humbling and mind blowing and gratifying. so i come from a farm but the idea and the lead different type of people this is a real fallacy and dangerous at that.
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people from all walks of life different skin colors and background. to say our stories are different so that has something to do with the subtitle of the book. clap if you feel me on this. [laughter] mmr working hard and being broke in the richest country on earth. [applause] and that unison sound is knowing that we have a little bit of the problem that we tell ourselves for centuries about this place with the american dream that involves hard work that this is the a meritocracy.
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and dad is speaking to people but it is a special niche but i wanted to point that out. so this is a moment of division to see ourselves and categorizing what we do. and that the identity differs and how that comes with privileges and disadvantages. but along the way we should make sure we talk about what we have in common to make progress and unity.
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i'm not talk about empathy or compassion for someone that wishes harm upon you or your group or demographic. i happen to believe i have been a reporter for long enough that you would think from watching cable news that if you just leave your living room and turn off whatever it is and look your neighbor in the eye and have a conversation there are people that are out there but i think those that happen to be a member of the industry that our guilty of fixation of conflict that drives up ratings and papers and is
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essential to address in a crisis situation but in our understanding of ourselves not talking about how we are in this together and those who might disagree how to get to the same outcome. so i will read you a little bit about that and the people that i come from. with this from 1987. in a house that my construction worker father built with his own hands left wichita and i hung out with my maternal grandmother a lot who was young for a grandma she was 34. and for that reason she was
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more like a second mom in some ways my mom was like a sister more than a mother. and by the way i cannot remember for sure if i switch into the second person and say you it has everything to do with betty being 34 when she becomes a grandma a lot of single mothers in poverty with female children roaming the midwestern highways working in diners and to escape abusive men. my grandma was a farmer that's how my mom met my dad who was a farm boy in the area but
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with that i am that is far back as i could find in any record that was kept back through the times i am the first woman female in my maternal line who did not have a baby before the age of 20. so talking about advantage i'm speaking to the would be child or baby i might have had as a teenager i had a very keen awareness at a very young age, younger than me a young woman or a child should be mindful of such a thing. so this book while some may
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see it as a metaphor, it is described as an empty or imagined child i am trying to avoid having. . >> by early 1987 grandma betty had tired of the long drive that was the courthouse in wichita in the farm in the middle of nowhere. she was working on factory floors and as a diner waitress and very few opportunities were available to women in the workforce with a female in poverty in the sixties during my grandma's era.
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she had benefited from a federal grant of title ix legislation that allowed her to attend what they called business school social and how to type and file and she ended up landing a gig as a secretary in the courthouse in downtown wichita and worked her way up as the probation officer so that she would put on high heels from kmart was very glamorous in our family. [laughter] so she had tired of this long commute and married this farmer that grandpa said she could quit her job but she didn't want to quit. when had she not worked? she was proud of what she did at the courthouse. once she said i got used to the big money.
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[laughter] she refused a meager salary accepted without negotiation as were most women salaries and living at the farm she paid no rent or mortgage what she was making was going to savings for the first time in her life bailed out a friend who needed help to leave somebody long ago. she tired of the long daily commute but it made more sense to keep her job and find a house in wichita which could be a long-term property investment. so even with her many years on the farm wichita was still her home. i went along as she visited open houses i like the brown brick house with the glass coffee table. that they want $60000 grandma
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betty said and that's too high. back home she told mom we looked at a house that cost $60000. she said that's not much. i spent the next week reporting that to anybody who would listen. [laughter] grandma found a tiny square house near downtown wichita near her childhood home in the mexican-american neighborhood where her lifelong best friend had grown up. it was just a five-minute drive from her job at the courthouse she was at the house during the weekend spend weekends at the farm with grandpa. he would make the drive on weeknights after chores but the farm would keep them tied up late into the evening. grandma bought the house for $25000 with the owner carried mortgage with a balloon
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payment that the seller makes the monthly payments for the first couple years until the buyers payments kick in and increase in amount over time it's like being carried by jesus on the sandy beach paying him an interest for every footprint. [laughter] the yellow orange brick house was built around the time she was born with a concrete porch and four rooms a small bedroom and living room wood floors with an eat in kitchen with a small bathroom connected. the unfinished basement was more space data grandpa's long sledgehammers at a wall and put the pieces in the garbage bag. we jumped on the mattress covered in plaster on the floor until the noise would drive us outside. second street was busy with cars and i kept at a safe
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distance i held his hand as we wandered a few blocks with the seven up sign that read george's. one of the last family-run groceries in this town grandma walked there as a kid herself. george was 1000 years old. after supper at the new house then went back to the country and he went back to the farms he'd be there for early morning chores i was in wichita with grandma betty to help her clean the new house. this is the place where you clean your own house. you scrub the kitchen floor the counters and the stove and refrigerator. grandma couldn't believe how filthy they left the place grandma couldn't believe how sloppy somebody left the wallpaper on the wall.
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i pulled tax and nails from the drywall and a trowel full of west long - - wet plaster. we had a tiny black and white television going in the 10:00 news came on grandma was ready to hang it up. the new house was empty. for supper we ate bologna sandwiches and shoestrings from the greasy metal can. grandma drove us to mcdonald's and told me to get whatever i wanted. she often told me to tell me to get whatever i wanted at fast food restaurants i understood the generosity was because of her hard life she had lived. i ordered a hot fudge sundae. [laughter] back at the new house she moved the television to the
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corner and then i saw johnny carson it felt like a great adventure to eat ice cream on a hard word floor of the empty house while watching the tonight show eating ice cream. she switched off the tv and the lights. she said you did good work today sarah. i had forgotten that the darkness and quiet are not the same in wichita as they are in the country. the cars seemed bright and allowed like they just opened the front door which opened into the room where we lay. i thought and i thought until i wished my mind had a switch. i felt grandma get up in the darkness she said she had ago. what i like a glass of water quick she turned on the kitchen light and screamed. oh god.
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get up. hundreds of cockroaches ran across the kitchen linoleum hit by sudden light so went into the bathroom others when under the refrigerator some ran toward the dining room and our mattress. i stood on the mattress and took a step back a line of roaches started up the side of the mattress. grandma was reaching for her sandals. those filthy vast herds - - t10. [laughter] we are blowing this place. cattle wheat fields back when that had a different name she
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was wishing for spiders or june bugs anything besides filthy cockroach because she hated the t10. [laughter] an hour later we are back in the country climbing out of grandma's car with the smell somewhere in the darkness. grandma quieted the german shepherd in the farmhouse. and then to be the crazy steps covered in the blue carpet. if i live to be an old woman in the trend of my early life's continue the population people consolidated like feed companies there is strength in
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that as an economist may suggest. president white eisenhower said whatever america hopes to bring to task in the world must first come to task in the heart of america. the countryside is no more the heart man is our city and those people are not more noble or dignified. but to devalue in our social investment in her language , the people who cross livestock or to refer to them as flyover country isn't just the countries foundation but the connection to the earth with the cycle of life through the concrete landscape.
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so the decision of a sustainable world i talk about him previously in the chapter to balance both economically and environmentally the american heartbeat is strong and self supported outside the metropolis. the life force those spaces that we hear are dwindling but what flows back into those spaces or other spaces. the meatpacking towns of western kansas for instance are the most ethnically diverse places in the country as immigrants come from the middle east and central america to get a factory job in the industry of
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agriculture. according to the 2010 census many rural counties eight out of ten kansans were white but the hispanic population had grown by 60 percent in the last ten years. that is a demographic shift that has been embraced who knew that their home must change to survive. but along those challenges is the closeness were of the biggest spaces a deep intimacy with only one neighbor to help when you are sick and when it starts drifting so you check on the old woman with the mean dog regardless if you like
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her. when i was a teenager in 1986 and went to new york city for the first time at the international communications contest that i qualified for at high school. we visited the statue of liberty which i was determined to climb inside. as i neared the crowned manasseh crowned with the winding staircase the people in front of me and behind me i had trouble breathing. i wasn't afraid of heights but i realized i could not get out if i had to. i didn't know it but i was having a panic attack maybe not altogether irrational but resulting from claustrophobia i had never been crowded enough to know that i had it. [laughter] while the small space echoed with voices i close my eyes to
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take deep breaths. the stranger was behind me looked me in the isaac were the only two people on earth and he was from boston as i recall i asked if he wanted to take a psychological quiz. [laughter] with my lungs and muscles tight my voice sounded steady i said okay. i told him a long story and i pause to ask questions what animal is on the other side of the wall? what do you see in the water when you look down? the contest was something i had heard from a person but mostly i made it up. the crowd around us had gotten
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quiet to listen. i told him i thought his mindset about who he was. [laughter] i look at this and i think how did i? [laughter] that kid is so much braver than i am. i just can't even. [laughter] he and others nodded along for amusement but as for me i have something to focus on one suspended metal step at a time for the crown of the statue of liberty. i had harnessed an inner calm that could be found anywhere but for me was cultivated in a rural land under a state flag of the latin phrase to the
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stars through difficulties. when we got to the top i was not scared anymore. someone took my picture of a smile with new york harbor behind me glowing like jewels in her crown that's how i come to resolve the tensions of my childhood of my family members lives, country and city. i crave the opportunity that cities contained and i pursued it but most essential to my well-being was that unobstructed freedom. when i was well into adulthood united states developed the notion that class in geography separated different kinds of people.
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where i was from and what i hope to do in life, the places that best sustained me and the things i meant to do. straddling that line i knew it was a difference of experience not of humanity. he would have been born on one side of that divide but would not have predicted anything about the core are not the politics or character. it would have predicted what you saw and did in one defining psychological tension by your economy every day you would decide whether to stay or go or try to go. and if you went, no matter where you ended up, like every
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immigrant you still feel the motherland on the soles of your feet. [applause] thank you so much. and now i want to talk to all of you i understand somebody has a microphone? . >> please be mindful of only questions.
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>> thank you for coming. in my mailbox came the ku alumni magazine with your photo on the front. >> i am honored. >> in that article it mentions you said about your childhood poverty and don't think you are in poverty now but also about your family and grandparents that elsewhere i assume they were a part of your writing process that they knew you were writing and what about residuals? [laughter] . >> they also play might like to know the answer to that question. [laughter] yes. there are different schools of thought about writing memoirs or your family. one school of thought is you write whatever you think somebody sees it different than they can write their own
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damn book. [laughter] but that's not how i work as a journalist or writing a memoir. i think to channel someone's life to transform those experiences by an adequate character, that's quite a gift to receive it's a blessing to do that and in my approach different artist would have different opinions but i was checking in with them every step of the way many of the passages are written the parts that i wasn't even born yet that is for many hours of interviews with close members of my family over the years.
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they said they didn't want to read it and tell it came out but i should say by the way other than my mother i'm the only book person they just said it's probably boring. [laughter] you think i'm joking. [laughter] but this is so moving to me i have to share it with you. my grandma is the star of the show there are a lot of powerful characters that she is so vivacious and sharp-witted with a hardluck life and one of the most generous spirits so if anyone had a right to feel shortened by the book even i made every attempt to get it right
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although maybe you never could she read it sheet texted me i laughed and i cried in the first thing she said how she was represented those with the darkest moments of her life one of her husbands breaking her jaw as they called it back then back alley abortion so she very generously let me tell those stories and texted me and said i'm sorry that you had so much strength as a child and i did not know it so they were there with me every step of the way.
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. >> by any chance that academic film picnic? . >> no. i don't think so. . >> i am wondering the theme of your book with class and the perceived divide how do you see that reflected in other cultures now? like another novels perhaps? . >> excellent question. think you what i do as a journalist talking about class requires i simultaneously operate as a media critic because i take such great issue the way these narratives are cast by upper-class white people who have the best of intentions but don't bat an
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eye to suggest the entire working class is white or male and where i come from it's more monolith than any other group. so i feel most of those portrayals that we see like the news media portrayal is politicized has to do with this moment we are in politically as a country but back to my childhood i felt it was a stereotype or a caricature sometimes it was done with the hateful spirit but more often just well-intentioned storytellers who don't know any better. that's why that
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diversification of college campuses and newsrooms and the spaces that hold power in society often considered a diversity as we should with the gender and other aspects but fairly recently we are acknowledging class that intersects with all of the above but also with a particular conundrum of this moment of historic equality. because they end up with the privilege of telling them. >> hello. so nice to read your book i wanted to ask you about the writing process. like you took 15 years to
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write this because it's so authentic and i love the approach that you take so what point in your process did you choose to write as a daughter crack. >> at such a great question i am a former english professor so i particularly enjoy this question. believe it or not if you read the book you will believe me when i say i shoot you straight i knew when i was a child i would write this book i didn't know what it would look like or how it would happen but i strategically made decisions along the way of my life for it to become a reality so i was the editor of
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my world i double majored in creative writing and journalism which represents integration of facts and research in a more artful narrative tone with the integration of the book. so that is a long way to say during my years as a journalist in some parts served to pay the bills because i had to get by i didn't have two pennies to rub together creative artistic pursuits take time and resources if you are waiting tables which i did and also freelance struggles that slow down the process but the beauty of it for the right timing is it forced me to give a better awareness and
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language to articulate why i sensed my family story might matter with all the stories of politics and class and to articulate that as a very young person trying to get this going so those pieces of the puzzle have very personal passages there are many pages that are almost verbatim that i wrote my senior year. . . . . and i found this collation and process and the wife felt like i
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was going to throw up the night before they came out, the more people appreciated them and none, of course, had to do with vulnerability or in opening up of wounds that many people carry for different reasons called shane. i thought i have these books were things are not clicking together and if they were published tomorrow i will not feel like i need to know what [inaudible] i kept the reader at length with the self protecting and then i was like oh my god, this aspect of my psyche that is been so deep that i almost never even consciously think about it which is this very true dialogue that i had of growing up with would be daughter and i used to say to myself when i was a teenager and had to make
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difficult decisions that may be other family parents would come in and help with i would say to myself what would i want for my daughter tell my daughter to do and that was i was in a context of a world where my own value was so unacknowledged in this capitalist society that my family appeared to be on the losing end of and if it were a meritocracy and suggest we are losers and i adored that as a child and the thing is conversation i would have with the daughter was my way of i knew she would be so sacred that i would do anything to right by her and i could rise to the challenge more reliably than i could rise to the challenge of doing right by myself in that guided me for many years and that ended up as the framework for the book and i felt like i
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was definitely going to throw up if people read this. [laughter] mission accomplished. >> any other questions? >> hello, sarah. i'm about 100 pages into your book and it's one of the more moving things i can remember reading. you clearly have so much sympathy for the amount of suffering that your family and people who grew up in your situation have been doing and curious if you have any sense of survivor's guilt? >> what an interesting question. and input and one because really what i described here i think i'm hearing from so many people about even though the particulars are so different but our stories are the same as that since we absolutely are living
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in a class structure many millions of people in this country have an experience of more than one rung of the ladder whether it was will be called downward mobility and the things are not static and so i hear from a lot of people who do have precisely that survival's guilt as she called it and for escaping as we say the same outcomes that are beloved family members experienced -- you knowa student at ku that was the defining moment that i had a different life expensive my family and as i described in the book for some kids supposedly
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that the wildest and most fun years of abandoned and the hardest years of my life. i loved being a student and love academia and love ku but as i say in the book there's a reason that so few people make this sort of crosses proceed of divide in any lasting way because it's a very painful crossing and it means that you are encompassing the goals that are essential to your own survival and well-being, good news, but by definition you are no longer the same as the people you love the most in the world and in some in terms of experience and language like i tell people i speak to versions of english, country and fancy. [laughter] tonight and mostly using fancy. so, that was painful for me
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because i was never a kid that wanted to quote, get out. i love my home and my family and yet there is something about my past in a good past that people aspects of that means i have people who share my stories never completely belong from that point on in any group as some sort of odd within my professional industry for when i come from and i'm odd when it come from what i do for a living. no, as far as i'm volunteering that is a weight now, no, maybe in part because my family is so lovely and happy for me and i'm honestly amazed and delighted that i get to do that for a living and i don't know guilty about nothing. [laughter]
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[applause] >> we do have time for one more question. >> i was wondering maybe for a moment if you could take off your -- hat and put on your journalist hat you mentioned your grandma betty how she benefited from legislative efforts to improve her economic et cetera and we are at a time where that is really depending on how you look at it -- we are beyond that and now live in a racism doesn't exist according to -- >> you mean what people say? >> right. right. we have chief justice of the civil court famously said racism doesn't exist anymore and i am
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paraphrasing so if you reflect on that place we are and along that line. >> in relation to policy -- >> yeah, policy and your grandma and were not beyond that and maybe not. >> i think we absolutely are not. the gains were made by women and people of color and other historic the marginalized groups were made in part because the federal government said if we leave this up to local communities the job market on so we will stay in the schools must integrate and his women must be allowed to work in these spaces. and so, you know, i do sense we are at a moment where there is a story about a country that it may be short term memory that the gains we made or because of those programs therefore they should remain or be even more
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robust as opposed to claiming we are post gender in terms of social hierarchy and therefore tear down public programs. when i was an undergraduate at the university of kansas i was a straight a student and needing people like -- and on that or at that moment that i was excelling as a kid on a college campus i did not know what the term graduate school meant. so much for kids who come from places like i do, just like the language of talking about the things taken for granted by middle or upper class people were so foreign to me that i was like living the biggest dream i can dream for myself and federally funded program on the ku campus i believe called the mcnair scholars program and they found me or i found them in my
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senior year of college they encourage me to apply to graduate school. i will confess i have no intention of going to graduate school was they explained to me what it was. [laughter] but it came with a summer research statement, to spend the summer where i would not have to break my back at the grain elevator in kingman county during the wheat harvest or be objectified as a female server in the service industry all summer but instead i could use that stipend to research this book. i also got an undergraduate research award but can't remember that goes to the college of liberal arts or sciences or what but so that was a federal program that played a pivotal role they like to point out some people would love to look at my story and say see, you work hard, all good.
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but the way i see it is i'm not here to talk about some individual triumph. i'm here as someone who really represents the exception to the rule in terms of the odds of if you're born for it or no matter how hard you work and so my job now is to shine a light on the fact for all those people who don't have the privilege of being at this podium come back. [applause] >> hello. this book came out -- i read an advance copy so it came out last week and i read it so how many
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people have read this book so far? so many books to be sold tonight. seriously, i'm a native to begin and let most of my life in kansas and have been a few other places but even as a kansan a lot of kansans don't know the story. i just don't think that. this is such a powerful, timely story, and i implore you to sell out the raven tonight. [applause] [applause] >> thank you. thank you.
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