but one way is to use this around the country and with those safer conditions if that climate change and effect with that infrastructure. and with that unpleasantness in thent future. and that that local government to have that ability. . >> we do cover energy policy broad-based looking at climate change and with those pipelines and we have reporters all over the country. >> host: t five thank you for

your time spent now we have the executive director also former representative of south carolina good morning. so what about your organization with environmental issues quick. >> we are conservatives talking to conservatives about free enterprise solutions to climate change. we have heard a lot about government regulation and that sort of thing with that free enterprisese system. >> what are they and how do quick.e those >> i don't know anything about it but since that represented a very red district and i had

not looked into that at all i figured al gore is for itt but out of congress for six years doing commercial real estate law again then i ran for congress again in 2004 my son came to me the oldest of our five children and said dad i will vote for you that you will clean up your act on the environment. his four sisters agreed in a new constituency was born. that was the first step then to see the evidence so that is something of a spiritual awakening that was inspired and that climate scientist and

caring for the creation with a carbon act of 2009. >> and one of the republican and those that were on the bill that i lost my reelection in the republican primary in the midst on the darkest days of the great recession. they were the darkest days of the great recession these had

experience with climate change but that balance of the environmental left with those climate change. >> so why do you think they haveve a hard time dealing with this issue? i think we'll try to get him back on the line joining us from former as a former member of congress and as the executive director talking about hisss experience in congress when it comes to the climate change issue we will get him back on the line. arizona's next. >>caller: hello. i was just listening that's

the best i've heard in a long time and then how thinking like a geologist can help solve the world. so they are accelerating that rate but if you look back in the time of 55 million years ago that was the time when we exceeded 400 parts per million by a long shot and led to incredible changes in climate. and then with the ice core data they can measure those changes in the atmosphere we can see how things have changed and they are s.essentially raising ever since

we burned cool and clear out large areas. we have caused this problem. it is extremely rapid. you cannot cool a planet at the rate we can heat it up. there is a big price to pay for this. how far it will go? i don't know. butt these are unnatural but we have to have nuclei in there somewhere to keep this going. >> mister inglis i'm asking about those republicans in congress to have issues of climate change why do you think that is quick.

>> and those that fit with the values and what they have heard is a big government solution of regulation so if we don't think we have a solution that fits the values we doubt the existence of the problem and that sounds irrational until i tell you what about that surgery for that back problem first we take off your head then we work on your spine. to say i don't have a back problem so you're not going to take my hat off. that is a nutty solution we will regulate your breath i must not have a problem then. and there is the exciting free

enterprise solution so on the phil donahue show it if you don't want to regulate it but then you tax it because then you tax pollution. >> host: in canada they are proposing climate change and then marching in the streets how will those play out y especially in the united states quick. >> it is quite an educational effort but just consider the alternatives of a regulatory state the cap and trade which

is enormously complicated or even a simple pricing of the negative effects of the burning of fossil fuels but conservatives believe accountability brings blessings and havoc results from the lack of accountability so climate change is that i havoc that comes from lack of a bit - - accountability. >> and then to go to the city dump with that space that they take up in the city dump and go where you pick up their trash isn't that appropriate?

than they take up space in the city dump to build a new dump. themarge them and make accountable and then we need to charge for that space but then accountability is in the blessings. . >> if you are thinking on the reaction. >> the reports show what we have been seeing and then sooner than we thought. and then to be tossed out and the republican primary.

it with that climate change that is the first assessment it is right here and right now. the president trump is becoming a caricature and then tod stand on top of the roof in a single file line and then to see what happens. after a while to figure out you are going down if you step off the roof. for those to say step off. no gravity i don't believe in

climate change it doesn't believe or not it is out there. >> host: republic en is the executive director for the state of south carolina. >> great to be with you. >> joining us now suzanne the democrat from oregon on the committee of science -based technology ranking member good morning. >> good morning. >> from those assessments what does it mean quick. >> there were many points. we just released the fourth national climate assessment the day after thanksgiving not a big