state. the teacher got let go. they couldn't resolve the budget crisis unless the teacher knows they could come back. and i thought this is not how it's supposed to run. i was the room mom, involved in the school all the time. those are things that propelled me to get involved because you realize your local government affects your kids school. those are the types of things you don't step up and engage financially, volunteer wise. the first, find a candidate you're involved -- do you believe in and get involved. i know all of you are republicans. there's so much to go over. thank you for the great conversation. a lot to chew over here. just ask for the money.

you don't care what she does not square. go for the gold and just keep working on it. thank you. >> thank you. [applause] ..

we'll look for your calls and comments, very shortly heaven once c-span, c-span 2. and chance radio. we don't think there will be a whole lot happening on the floor of either the senate or house. wayle have them live for you, the senate on c-span 2, the house here on c-span. what could happen, what might happy. john harwood for cnbc looks ahead to the 116th. he sees this. logical end game. this house on january 3rd, the new congress, passes a senate approved bill with 1.3 billion for nonwall border security.

the senate sends back revised version with 1.6 billion and president trump calls the extra 300 million a huge win. the president tweeting this afternoon, saying, the democrats obstruction of the desperately needed wall where through almost all recent lip agreed it to, should be built, is speeded only their obstruction of 350 people great people wanting to come into the government after doing delayed. talk can bit nominees of and is the president saying the reason the daca for wall deal -- the immigration deal this year -- didn't get done was that a redick class kurt decision allowed daca could remain. david drucker, tweeting this, we're seeing this from a number of sources that the whip in the house, steve scalise, giving notice, members as individuals it no votes expect in the house

this year and happy new year. the house will be live on c-span in 30 minutes, 4:00 eastern. the senate on c-span 2, and we most recently saw the senate in session on saturday at noon. they came in just after the government had partial government -- part of the government shut down, 25% of the government. want to show you'll the comments of mitch mcconnell on saturday, setting up we'll see is that nothing will come to the senate floor unless it's agreed to by all parties. here's some of what he had to say. >> the next scheduled session on the 27th. of december. and as i said earlier today, when we opened, i'm glad that productive discussions are continuing. when these negotiations produce a solution, that is acceptable to all parties, which means 60 votes in he senate, a majority in the house, and a presidential signature; at that point we'll

take it up on the senate floor. senators will be notified when a vote is scheduleed, and in the meantime the discussions and negotiations continue. >> and the majority leader mentioning, obviously, the next session, today, the 2nd coming in at 4:00 eastern, the senate on c-span 2, the house on c-span. in the calls next. as in minneapolis, go ahead. >> caller: hi. i'm more of a question actually. what departments in the u.s. government are actually shout done? i've been noticing, i've been getting my mail. >> host: are you a federal worker? >> caller: i am not. >> host: well, the post office is not funded by the government. post office is regulate by the government but not funded

directly by the government. it's a self-funding agency. >> caller: i did not know that. embarrassing. thank you for letting me know, and also thanks for the great programming the last few days. really appreciated. >> host: glad to have you with us, brian is in mel rose, new york, democrat line, brian. go ahead. >> caller: i can't understand why the shutdown is over the wall. it was clear during the campaign that mexico was going to pay for it. so, why are we even debating? where is the check from mexico to pay for it? why isn't the president mentioning that at all now? >> host: the president has said -- president and some of the administration linked the trade deals, revisedded trail deed, the u.s.-canada-mexico trade agreement as an avenue of a way that some of that gets funded. what do you think of that.

>> it's it was clear during the campaign rallies that mexico would pay for it. without that part of it i don't see why we even debate it and why the taxpayers, the american people, have to foot a bill when the plan was that mexico would pay for it and the president was very emphatic about that. >> host: one snapshot of the shutdown from glory thrush, a little bit of a-beams, 1970 new york in trump's washington this ellipse near the white house and lots of overflowing trash there in that particular can. nor fork, virginia, wayne, good afternoon, democrats line. >> caller: yes, i'm trying to figure out this holdup but billing up the wall? i'm trying to figure out why we even be hypocritical. reagan toll one country toy tear down the waugh and now we billing.

will another country say why are you doing the same thing? that's my concern. why we being hitch credit -- hypocritical. >> host: particularly hypocritical towards which other countries? which countries are you referring to? >> caller: well, i remember reagan told us -- i think it might have been gorbachev, tear down the wall, and now we billing up one. that's hypocritical to me. >> host: okay. we'll hear next for a border state, phoenix, arizona, and sofia. welcome. >> hi. i think government shutdown is a fantastic idea and i cannot wait until the 2019 new congress come in because we can get fresh ideas, we can let all these, no offense, older men step down because they have no idea what the hell is going on, not we bell the new congress in because this is new aim, times have changed. thank you. >> host: take this opportunity to remind you we're a week away

from the new congress coming in, the 116th consequence gaveling in on january 3rd with live coverage of the house here on c-span, and the senate on c-span 2. next thursday. taking your calls and comments, reaction to the government shutdown and here, day number 6. we have line for federal workers, 202-748-88922. to vallejo, california, and katey is a government worker. >> caller: hi. this is katie. i'm part of the shutdown, and i don't live paycheck to paycheck so i'm very lucky the that respect, i worry but my coworkers who are not getting a paycheck and the work that is not being done now. i am against funding the wall personally. that's not a government -- i'm not speaking of behalf of the government but personally i do not think it's goody of the now

build the wall. >> host: katie, what kind of work do you do for the government, what agency? >> caller: the usda. >> host: and so you folks, the usda completely shut down or do you have some personnel man something essential duties in your offices? >> caller: yes. there's people that do essential duty it but i'm not one of them. >> host: thank you for sharing your story. next to yuma, arizona,. >> caller: i voted for these folks to run the government, that to shut it down. i think anyone that voted to shut it down should be kicked out of congress altogether. i'm tired of this nonsense. see how i cleaned up my language there? in the nonsense. i could have put in somethingees glad you didn't. thank you. >> caller: okay. >> host: illinois, larry, on a republican line. your thoughts on this shutdown,

larry. >> caller: yes. i'm 71, been a republican ever since i could vote. the democrats are almost turning me over to be one but i dope think it will happen. i'd like to know what you think is going to happen in the future if something like this occurs again with a democratic president? do you think the republics will turn against them just for political rope inside. >> host: what do you think. >> i think it will happen. what's going ran right now in government, it's not going to change and there's going to be so many bad feelings in the future that our government never will run proper again. >> host: this is the third and -- the third shutdown of the year, the longest of this year, had couple of minor shutdowns earlier in the year. on the east side of the u.s. capitol. cameras outside of the capitol, inside as well, trying to track down and see where members are. this is the senate subway, the two subways that service the

russell and the dirksen office buildings, and it looks pretty baren. may be aberdeen a member or two around. we'll fine out at 4:00 when the senate comes in, house comes in. the senate on c-span 2, and the house on c-span. el paso, texas, bobby next. on a democrat line. go ahead. >> caller: yes. what i don't understand and i never have and this has been going on long before trump -- it doesn't matter what party it is, i'm a democrat but i voted independent, --ic demic off and on the. the hype pock si. the fly central mare. we create the conditions in and now paying for the blow bloke. grew up near the border, the border was porous, they were having people left or right, nobody said anything then. they hire them, hired people, have people come over.

but now that they create the conditions, they come here, now they don't want them here. they've play tar gas at them. enough they want walls and troops here? i think that's ridiculous. and the only time these politickers ever come down here on the border, that's when they're rung for office and when they come down here, they hold heir close evidence meetings. there's only been one politician and that was a politician from here recently who had open meetings, invited every party to the meeting. a find of lot of hypocrisy. >> host: who was the politician? >> beto o'rourke. >> host: did you -- >> caller: i voted for him. the only dish was beginning to lose hope in the democratic peter. hope there are more people like beto o'rourke who speak up. i can see thank you the hypocrisy, there were times with

people with lunch pails, waiting to go -- go back and forth to work. work hayes gardeners, construction workers, maids and this and that. i it was porous then. nobody said anything. >> host: go back to your first comment. you said talk but the hypocrisy and you penned this on -- i think your words the intervention of the cia in central america. tell us more what you mean and what did you notice -- >> caller: not only in central americas-went on in chile with allende. during the reagan administration there was a great influx of salvador yaps. i lived down to street and so many salvador yaps who described the conditions we create the conditions there. >> host: now to taylor, michigan, and art on the republican line. go ahead, art. >> how are you. >> host: doing fine, thank you.

>> caller: okay, let's try to put this into perspective here. i'm 62 years old. i can remember back in the reagan days, we did an amnesty, and that amnesty was to do one thing, was to eliminate ever having this immigration crisis again. and we have had seven of them. it wasn't the first one wasn't good enough. two years later those that it didn't receive the amnesty, raised owl kind of cane and said we were scared and now we want it extended to us. seven amnesties. and it just -- it doesn't make sense. it just gets worse. >> host: what's the solution to that do you think, art? >> caller: that is -- i'm from my ancestors are immigrants, but what we have to put into perspective is there's a digs between an immigrant and an

illegal alien. there's a -- right now, nobody ever touches on this. right now, according to the u.s. customs immigration services, there are 4.5 million people from all around the world, all different races, all different ethnicities, that have filled out the proper documentation. have paid the required fees. and are waiting in their home country to be processed. now, with all this business going on with the flooding the country, they've created a back floe. there's a bottle next for -- you can verify this. i don't expect you to believe me. it's very easily verified. 4.5 million people have gone about it the legal, rightful

way. and -- >> host: art in taylor, michigan, thank you for your comments. we're 15 minutes away from the start of the sessions for the house and senate. the house here on c-span, and the senate on c-span2 2. president trump just tweeting, about our topic, we look live at the capitol visitor sentence and a replica of the statue of freedom at the top of the capitol. and'll look at this and show you the president's tweet in a minute. a night look at mainly vizoffs there in the visitor center, not seeing many members today. lansing, new york, next. angelo, democrats line. >> caller: thank you for having me. i'm one of those millenials, lazy millenials, and this is what our third shutdown we have had in the past year over some form of immigration, right? and this latest tiff with $5 million for a physical

barrier. what i don't seem to under is why can't that money -- why -- a physical barrier. most of the drugs come through the southern border are coming through ports of entry. so, what is this physical wall going to -- how is that going to stop any of that? some of the arguments coming from this administration just don't seem to make any sense. with the backlog of lack of judges and not going through immigration courts and getting people through, to become citizens and stuff, i just don't understand why that money couldn't be better spent maybe bringing in more judges or expand these ports of entry, getting more border patrol agents to vet more people as they come through. that's all my thoughts. >> host: i appreciate that. we continue to take you calls and comments, mentioned the president just tweeted but the

wall, sale that border patrol agents want the wall. democrats say they don't watt want the wall even though they know it is really needed and they don't want i.c.e. they don't have much to campaign on, do they? an open, southern border and the large-scale crime that comes with such stupidity. that's from president trump. getting your reaction to your calls and comments here on day six of the government shutdown. daniel is a government worker, federal worker in rochester, new york. >> caller: hello. i'm very upset about the shutdown. just because i'm a post office worker and i'm very familiar with how new york state goes, and the issue is, basically, we need to make sure all of our borders are safe, not just that border, and i feel like if we spend too much money on that border, we'll be in the same situation as we are right now with dangerous drugs coming

through the post office, from china and india, and fentanyl is killing millions of americans, including family members, and i'm at the post office, so i see people getting arrested at the post office and needs to be stopped through other ways. >> host: daniel, thank you so much nor your call. mark made dough from north carolina, congressman from north carolina and head of the freedom caucus, one of the key numbers that president trump has been working on here in the last couple of weeks, tweeting this afternoon saying that nancy pelosi told trump on national tv the house didn't have the votes for a border wall. we did. it passed easily. the house passed it. the white house wants it. the senate major witness one wants it. the one blocking the open government, chuck schumer. that did pass in the house by a vote of 217 to 18 5. go next to van buren, arkansas, and say hello to marsha on our

republican line. >> caller: good afternoon. i'm a toothless old woman so you can call me a toothless hill bill we. i was raced less front a mile. my daddy was democrat, a member of the union, -- because that was when the --s were the working man's party. congressman john paul hammer smidt changed his mind and he told congressman hammersmidt one time, you're a good democrat, you just don't know it. well, i voted democrat most of my life, but i was hooked in 2016 by the first question to donald trump in the first presidential debate. i thought, if he can stand up to a woman like that, that's what

we need in office. not someone who is going to pusy few and mealy mouth around and he has done exactly what the said to do. and like this visit to afghanistan and iraq, he did not telegraph with movements like other presidents have done. i love the fact that he is keeping his playbook close to his chest. i am a con firmed web site now because of donald trump. >> host: thank you for calling in this afternoon. we're less that ten minutes away from the start of the house and senate. so here's our plan. we'll show you the house and senate coverage. we don't expect it to be long in either body. but we'll see what happens. now in a couple of the sessions, dental creak leader -- the democratic whit, steny holidayer, trying to bring forward legislation that passed dealing with retroactive pay for

government workers when a shutdown ends, trying to bring -- the whip tried to bring that forward the other day but a gaveled the session out fairly quick. that's what we expect today. a fairly quick session for both the house and senate and after the bodies gavel out we'll continue with your comments, your calls, et cetera, up to 4:30 even or so. next to nor folk, virginia, and hear from george. go ahead. >> caller: yes. this is george. thank you for taking my call. a month or so good i went to the web site for the college and ordered the declaration of independence and the -- and reading in the second chapter of the declaration of independence, i will just read this brief statement, and then have you

respond offline. i'm a registered democrat but i'm really an independent because they don't allow you to change in virginia at least as of 1998. the history of the present king of great britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states. to prove this much facts be submitted to a candid world, end quote. the next two and a half pages talks about, i suppose, king george iii, the king of england at the time of the declaration of independence. >> host: so, george, tie this in with -- and i'm glad you bought

it. we encourage folks to read through the documents obviously. tie that into what is going on today? what are you reading that feels similar if that's what you're getting at? >> caller: yes. i think mr. trump is a tyrannical person. he wants to control everything. my parents were immigrants. i was born in america. i believe in immigration. that's what has made our country great. >> host: thank you, i'm sorry, george, lost you. didn't mean to drop you like that but thank you for your observations. we were showing you some views inside the capitol tour, that was the old house chamber. and the statuary hall with all the statues each state getting two statues on capitol hill.

let's hear from dan verse, massachusetts, bill, on the democrat line as we wade for the house and senate to come in. >> caller: thank you for taking me call mitch question is how do you build the wall before you secure the property by imminent domain? that will take a lot of time. means you may not build a wall for two years, unless you take in and get the land to put the wall on. is that right? >> host: you may have a very good point, bill. it's a big long border. >> caller: yeah. you need to secure the border so you need to use imminent domain. is that correct. >> host: you may by right. may be spots they would have do do that. i can't tell you for sure. thank you for calling. a couple of political reporters here, burgess -- this shutdown is bizarre. neither party is doing messaging, no press conferences no signs of anybody coming in for the session. just the president talk and no

talks between parties and from zeke miller, house republics say no vote expected for the rest of the week, making it likely government shutdown will continue. and again, the 116th congress starting a week from today. >> caller: my brother used to work on the southern border as a border patrol agent. in the obama administration he had to do what they are doing right now don on the border with the families and everything, splitting them up. hoe told me it cost $120 billio. so what is $5 billion to build a wall? it's not going to hurt our budget that we already have on this country of trillion dollars. it's not going hurt. you could end all that by building the wall and ending the $120 billion that it takes to house those people down there.

thank you. >> host: thank you. to simone in jacksonville, arkansas. hi there. >> caller: hi there. just one point that i really haven't heard a lot of people speak about is i have a lot of empathy for these -- for anyone, especially people misled into coming here, thinking it would be an easy know through and they brought their children, which as a parent i would never do to my child, but it's not sustainable to our country. we have a homeless problem. it's just not sustainable. our immigration is something that our country is based on, but at this point in time we can't sustain it. i also think that they should take up the overstayed visa workers and look into that, and basically there's a lot of other

things people who hire illegal immigrants should be fined or should be -- have some repercussions, but it should be a combination of some kind of barrier, technology, and whatever it takes because everyone is suffering here. >> host: do you see issues with immigration, i illegal immigration, in jacksonville, arkansas? >> caller: actually, yeah. there was a shootout -- we just moved here and there was a shootout not too far from hi house, apparently there's some cartel actually not far from here. that was an awesome thing thing to know when you just moved. and so, yeah, it doesn't involve just the border states at all, and i don't think people realize that. one of the big problems. and another thing they could do

is with that build the wall funding that people have done on gofundme, are the people on the border states that would like to have some kind of protection, maybe allow them to use that money to build some kind of fencing or wall on their property. if they chose to do it because i'm sure there are people who would appreciate that. >> host: simone, i'm going to let you go you talk about the gofundme campaign, trying raise a billion dollars foe the wall. around 20 million or so. it's almost 4:00 here on the owes coast and the house and senate are gaveling in here on c-span. we'll take you to the house floor on c-span 2, and the senate floor and back after both for your calls and comments on c-span 2. c-span, and on c-span radio. see you in a few minutes.