noon eastern discussing her books and taking your calls. >> a look now at books that are being published this week. former deputy director of the fbi andrew mccabe recounts his career and his thoughts on the trump administration in "the threat." in alien examiners tim carney offers thoughts on why some communities in america succeed and some don't. a professor describes his journey to becoming a award-winning mathematician in "the shape of a life." jack riley recalls catching the drug lord el chapo. the signs of addiction is looked at in "never enough." and in "in putin's foot steps"

jeffrey tailor explore russia's domestic and international identity. look for these titles in book stores this coming week and watch for mainly of the authors in the near future on book tv, on c-span 2. >> ladies and gentlemen please welcome anne sebba. >> anne: thank you so much for inviting me here i'm thrilled to be table to tell you these extraordinary stories in rancho mirage writer's festival so i'm glad that we've started with

this picture. not because it's an unashamed plug for my book but because it does tell -- it incapitalilates the whole story. i love the body language of the german soldier. we know he's a non-commissioned officer, and you can't see his face but don't you know he's handsome, and arrogant, and confident. and you can see the face of the woman and she's beautiful, but that's where the interest lies. look at her eyes, she's nervous and not able to look at him in the face. she's wondering who essential watching her. so as i say in a sense this encapsulates my whole story. what was the reaction of the women in paris to the four long years of the german occupation? and it was complicated. now in this festival you'll know all the military stories, you'll know there are three principle men, hitler, empetta and degaulle in the defeat of france, and i'm going to try

hard not to mention them tall, because this is an unashamed look at a variety of women. so singers dancers, actors, performers, and ordinary women, housewives, resisters, spies, collaborators, and the extraordinary thing is, why have their stories not been told before? why has it taken so long to look at how the women responded to the german occupation? so this picture that you're looking at goes some way towards explaining it. 2015, pretty recently when president decided it was finally time to rebury two of the best known females in frons's secular temping to the great and good, the panthéon. so what you're actually seeing

here though, the coffin draped with the trick lour does not contain one of the bodies of the women's concerned because the family felt the actions for which their ancestors were being remembered happened so long ago. didn't want their graves disturbed. so all they were prepared to give was some soil from their graves. now until these women were buried in the panthéon there was only one woman buried there in her own right marie curie. so this was an extraordinary occasion. but it explains why france and certainly was then such a paternallestic country. any of you know paris if you go to the panthéon it's right in the center of paris and you walk up the street and there's magnificent building facing you and the cars on the pediment in front of it. it says to the great men of

france, a grateful fatherland. so that's why it explains some of the background towards the attitude of women at the time. women couldn't get a job without their permission of their husbands and fathers. women couldn't open a bank account without that permission, and here's the killer line. they couldn't wire trousers, so all the time that they took these roads during the occupation they actually played a far greater role than society formally allowed them. they didn't have the vote in france throughout this period. they didn't get the vote until 1946. so, as you see here. they did fight a little bit, but they didn't succeed. now this is background to my story. but it's absolutely not a women's book. as far as i'm concerned, it is the history. it's mainstream history, it just

hasn't been told like this before. and here's the other piece of background. france's complicated relationship with its jewish population. now this map goes some way towards explaining it, the blue representing the jewish population in europe pre-war and the yellow is all that remained after the war. so as you can see poland is the most dramatic example. where the jewish population was effectively wiped out. just have a look at france and the blue and the yellow aren't so different. so this needs some extrapolating, it's often referred to by historians as the french paradox. france was the first country in europe to emancipate the jews from 1806 onwards in the wake of napolean, increasingly laws were being swept away in order to allow jews to play a full role in society. so not surprisingly, jews from eastern europe flocked to

france. they came in search of the enlighten minute, and by and large they found it. you'll know -- but the figures are on the eve of war france's jewish population had swirled into approximately 330,000 of whom only i say advisedly, 76,000 were deported. now what those figures mean and why were 76,000 deported? they were deported by the actions of a sovereign french government used in vichy, using frenching police, and camped on french soil. on the other hand, you can do the math. how come three-quarters survived. they survived because of good french catholics and protassistants, and people of no religion at all. this is not a jewish book but

you need to understand this as the background to the overall story. now there's one more thing before i launch into some of the stories of these individual women. and i just want to explain as i had to explain to many of these extraordinary french women that i had the privilege to interview, what right do i have to tell their story? i'm british, i'm -- so we weren't occupied. not only that i didn't want live through the war. so i would take a lot of time and trouble to explain that i'd always genuinely been interested in french history. it's what i read at university, a hundred years ago. my father drove a tank on d-day plus 1 into normandy, he fought in the battle of car, and drove up through france to bellsen. so i grew up in a family of francophiles where france was always referred to as the victim

country, and that was very much part of my whole childhood and background. but there was a specific moment when i was hooked into the story, and that has to do with this woman. she was born rochelle van cleefe and she changed her name to renée presont, she was always known as renée presont. so my previous book was a biography of wallace simpson, and if you know anything about that woman you'll know she loved jewelry. so in that book i had lost of pictures, and on the eve of publication i get a phone call from the ceo of van cleefe & arpels who says ann, why have you not get pictures of van cleefe & arpels jewelry in your book. i was a bit taken aback and i explained it was a biography t wasn't a book about jewelry, and he then said to me, but anne, if

you come to paris and you spend a day at my shop i will explain to you why you are home. so what girl can refuse a day in paris at van cleefe & arpels? and i go, and actually i should say there were no little blue boxes but passed under the table, but i came away with something much more important for a biographer, a story, story about this woman. so she was running the company at the time that the nazis occupied and because the nazis insisted that all jewish businesses had to barianized, that is handed over to a christian, she thought she could be one step ahead of the occupying forces and she handed over the paris branch to anarian, then she took a suitcase of stock down to vichy, and she thought that she would be okay.

she's be protected. she thought she was thoroughly assimilated. was part of her battle in order van cleefe & arpels were constantly rivals of her and her belief was if they were thoroughly assimilated, and if nobody knew they were jewish, they would be okay. and she thought she'd be protected vichy because she knew the ministers, and the wives and mistresses of her hers. she was okay, and the business flourished until december 1942, when she threw herself out of the window to commit suicide. and i remember very clearly hearing that story that day, and that was really what hooked me in and why i wanted to know more about how the women of paris had survived and what had literally pushed her over the edge at this point. so, we start in 1939, when elsey

dewolf who was part of the -- in paris, the gave the most extraordinary surrealist ball. i want you to look at her dress, incrusted with jewelry and beads and butterfly and sequins, because when the germans occupied. -- hitler had paris envy. he hated the fact that the nazi wives had to come to pair took buy their beautiful gowns. so he wanted to take the french industry, lock stock and barrel to berlin. and our hero of the hour was a man called lucian. who said to him you can't just take the designers, the brands without the army of little women, and it was mostly women of eastern europe who support the whole industry. by some account there were about 25,000 women.

they were able to do beading, sequins, insert zips, fur collars, that's how a dress was made. it was passed around. he persuaded the germans this won't work. he had to come up with enough fabric during the occupation to keep the houses running. and we'll see how that played out, in the course f events. now whawlsz happened in 1939. the designers get in on the act. france is convinced there will be a chemical attack, a gas attack. so they immediately make these terribly expensive, cylindrical shaped bars for everybody to carry their compulsory gas masks. and there wasn't a chemical attack. but if you were really is that right you'd have a green bag, and blue bag, one to match every outfit. and some of the things, some of the shops did have shelters, but just look at that lovely ladies

silk stalkings because they quickly diseernd. what's a women to do? you can have your mesh stockings mended a few times. but when you can't get your mesh stockings mended, because you're not allowed to wear trousers and it was taboo to go out bear-legged. so elizabetharden to the rescue. she invents a iodine-based dye, that was called the silk on your legs that was not silk. if you had a friend who had a good hand and a good eye she would simulate a seem up the back. other things in 1939 a lot of women got married, and got divorced. and they did a flourishing trade in engagement rings because if you're worder worried your man is going to be killed, how do

you claim the pension. you need to get a ring on your finger, that's the first step. this woman in a wedding dress she got married a little bit before. but her story is so fabulous. odette, she got married she was only 19, it was an arranged marriage and she was part of ths french. her family had been in france for generations. but she was miserable. it was a very unhappy marriage. why? because her husband was a typically parisian husband. he didn't see why marriage should put himself to his regular visit between lady loves between 4-6:00 p.m., and they had a daughter but the daughter was looked after by a english governor so what could odette do. she felt unafulfilled, so in order to try understand how to give her life meaning she was

visiting a psychiatrist in 1939. i'm happy to find she found fulfillment in war like many women. she joined the resistance formally which was unusual because it meant abandoning her daughter, and abandoning her elderly father, who was taking to the camps and killed. and she had a passionate affair with a communist coursecon trade union leader called pierre and we'll come back to that in a minute. the other woman who is staring at you with the most exotic beauty, miriam sansa was part of the jewish immigration but they'd been there for two generations. . .

had to get these in triplicate and her family group swelled 12 and by the end of 1941, just in time she got four of these pieces in triplicate for this family group that had swollen to 12 and she was looking and she explained to me why jewelry and your time flourished because she said every console she went to meet demand and either jewelry or sex and when she went to meet the console at job up and offered him her holding she

turned him down but she was only able to do it in diamonds but she managed to get herfamily out . i'm not going to give you the military version of events. you all know it was june 1940 the germans were in paris and this picture tells you about what happened overnight so the law comes down and is replaced by the swastika and there was a curfew and it varies between eight and midnight depending how paris was and the exchange rate became deeply favorable to the germans so the terms of the armistice are harsh not only to france but for the privilege of hosting the german army by terms of their lush agricultural product and

so the french overnight fractured and amongst the things you can see in this picture, the most dramatic is no private cars. they disappear immediately. there is no gasoline so bicycles become very important but they were expensive and not easy to find and it's women writing them and what you do when their rubber, how do you mend a puncture? they are stuffed with straw, old wine corks and it's that you have towear a dress , you can't imagine how on earth you ride a bicycle stuffed with pine straw. shampoo and hair coloring disappeared immediately so this is where women decided okay, i can't wear, that wasn't allowed so i'm going to continue in so far as i

can to look as chic and elegant as i can in the face of the german enemy, they're not going to step out my style so just admire the woman in the big turban, probably she didn't have enough merit hair to make of it turban but it would be stopby old newspapers . so vegetables were grown but one of the most important cultivation in this picture is no man, almost 2 million men were taken prisoner of war so from day one it was the women who had to decide how to respond to the germans . i've said hitler paris and the but he only came to paris once during the occupation and he said on that occasion every german should have a chance to go to paris at least once.this is why.

it's only part of the reason why but of course coming to paris was a great choice, it was better than being sent to siberia and the brothels were famous but they were really worried that the women of paris had some dastardly punishment in store for them and syphilis was only one of the fears so this particular booklet was a booklet prepared for officers and it was privately printed to go to an erotic bookshop in a seedy part of paris. i'm told the mandarin bookshop, i probably shouldn't go on air but i'm indebted to my husband to come with me on this trip and i said he could do more of it but as you can see, in this photograph it wasn't just the brothels where they were telling the officers to go to

the sanitary stations afterwards. that was terribly important. it wasn't just the german men that thought coming to paris was a plum deal but the women who were generally auxiliaries but they nevergot on well with their courage and sisters . the if they wanted to be really rude they call them officers mattresses. in the other photograph to begin with, the germans were very attractive and many of the women thought their wonderful. as you can see here, not everybody thought that they were wonderful and this woman was an actress, definitely one of my heroines, she left on day one that she could not possibly perform in a company which did not allow the work of jewish playwrights and did not allow jewish actors. she left and she accompanied the man she loved george mondello, politician who

churchill would come to london and meet the free french but mondello couldn't leave because he was jewish . he be charged with desertion so she stayed with him and and she took him food and looked after his orphaned daughter. it was not black and white, it was not straightforward for many of the performances, many of the performers were the one picked up in the time of liberation because they were seen to support the liberation and its story of stacy was dave stated by men dream who ran a nightclub, many of the nightclubs were fiercely pro-resistance and stacy me off was a young south african jewish daughter, very impoverished but desperately wanted to dance with the ballet. she was taken on ally and

trapped in paris and didn't know what to do so and renee saved her, taught her a new dance routine. she became famous and was the talk of the town.however in 1943 the germans wanted to take a group of performers to germany and she was selected as one of them and said i can't go, they'll realize i'm jewish. help me. he said you've got to go because if you don't, the germans will realize you've got full papers and worse than that, you'll betray all your colleagues so she went as you can see in this picture in front of the brandenburg gate but her story is interesting because edith p off went with her and edith is often accused of collaboration in going on many of these german trips. the idea was they performed with the prisoners of the war and said look, what a benign

occupation, the germans are great to work for. we can sing, we can dance, life is wonderful and after the war edith p off went to get herself photographs with german men and she cut up the photographs and use them to create false identity papers. i think the jury is still out but the other photograph shows you i think illustrates my point that the performers really had very little choice. most of the dance halls were filled with these great green uniforms. you can still in this picture that all is not going to be well for germanic luber was admired by hitler. hitler commented that she was the finest dissolve or he ever heard. but she was a wagnerian and the reason for playing this is simply, i shouldn't really talk over it. she argued that being a

wagnerian, what are you to do ? the germans treated are opera as an art form but they invented mozart in paris at the time and she was regularly performing so after the war horse she was arrested. i'm sorry i can't play more but you will have to listen to it yourselves, it's quite wonderful and she was a great singer but perhaps she didn't have to sing with the berlin opera when they came to paris. her real crime of course, she had a german lover so she was charged with collaboration and charged after the war and she paid a heavy price. she was imprisoned for three years. she was subjected to what they call exile, her home was taken from her and she was humiliated, stripped of

everything although she came back after the war just as an example, you all know the war didn't end in 1945. it had long shadows. after she came back she didn't perform anymore and her family committed suicide. by contrast, chanel. why doesn't he picked up for collaboration? she too moved into the ritz with her much younger and some german lover. she closed her shop at the beginning of the war. she said it wasn't a suitable time to sell close and she had a very good rapport with every black-market luxury brought her. she was incredibly lucky not to have been charged and sent to prison for collaboration and the reason she wasn't was because of that old romantic winston churchill who knew her prewar when she had a long-standing affair with the

duke of westminster and he didn't want to drag his friend and her through the mud so she was lucky. she could have sold close because of course lucien long who i mentioned at the beginning was not struggling to find enough fabric to show their clothes and he had real economic collaboration. he worked with the german chemists to import cellulose from german pine we to create an artificial fiber which we call rayon today, they called it khibran. it wasn't so good if you bought anything but it's his purpose and he came up with competitions for the designers and it's called elegance on a bicycle and they had to develop some kind of outfit and it was probably something like i'm wearing, but it's theoretically

trousers. so women who really didn't have access to lots of money, what could they do to remain smart? to show the germans they were still going to compete, they were going to be humiliated? they search for fabrics to cover their shoes which were very elegant and once rationing was introduced because, just couldn't be imported anymore, women felt if i can't buy whole dresses, at least i can buy some lingerie, that will make me feel a bit better but many women had to send their textiles if they identified as jewish, they had to spend their textiles on wearing a yellow star but somebody who was fourth where a yellow scarf, even though she did not identify as jewish, i think husky is really the clearest example i can come up with of what i called at

the beginning the french paradox. so murawski who is the author who wrote sweet pompeii, i'm sure many of you have read it. she adored france. she was born in russia, wrote in french, she thought it was such a wonderful country, she couldn't possibly believe that a country which took rationalism as its basis could possibly turn against the jews but nonetheless, everybody knew she was jewish so she had to wear yellow scarf or publishers couldn't pay her for work so she came up with a scheme and why whereby her housekeeper attended she was doing the right thing and the housekeeper paid for in men husky. she converted tocatholicism because she thought this was the religion of france, it will give me peace . he took her childrento mass and they were baptized . nonetheless, he was in 1942 arrested by french police,

taken in a friend's car to a camp on french soil and she died shortly after. so why on earth do i say that she's part of the french paradox? because she gave her two children a manuscript that she was working on, and unfinished masterpiece in my view which became when it was published posthumously sweet pompeii and i think the fact that her children survive, they were looked after by their governments in the resistance and eventually, this book was published and i'm showing you a still from the film. and while i recognize not all germans were as handsome as matthew sure now, many of them were and what this still shows you is it was the women who had to decide how to i respond? the white spit in their face? do i turn off the road signs the wrong way, do i actually destroy the resistance.

well, up until 1952, those women were weak and see but after 1942, everything changed. helen was picked up as part of operation spring wind. in paris this was known as the half-life roundup when 14,000 jews were picked up including 4000 children which the germans had not asked for and didn't want, they didn't know what to do with them though they killed them including a baby of 18months . and it was really after the humility which was envisioned that many women knew somebody who knew somebody who knew somebody and that's when women did what they do best, they area maybe they couldn't formally join the resistance which is why they weren't recognized afterwards with awards but they gave many brave things like escorting

germans to a safe house and that's why this memorial in paris is there because in 1995, jack [cheering] finally admitted french culpability for the roundup which is i think france's low moment and here are some of the things thatwomen did . they delivered political tracks under doorways and don't think that's not dangerous because if you delivered them to somebody who gave away the game, you'd be tortured and told where the printing press was and the others smiling woman, she's shown, i tried to show as many women as i could because after the war, de gaulle only gave awards to those who had formally wielded a weapon so she cycled around normandy with an exposed tract to her chest and laid gel ignite on railway lines.

i got to know her daughter and her daughter said to me the real reason why so many people haven't been recognized, all my mother wanted after the warwas normalcy . she wanted marriage with children and not to talk about it but in 1943 churchill recognized it, she had executive women to marriage because young men couldn't go, young men fighting age would attract too much attention so he sends extraordinarily brave, fairly trained women to try and bolster the resistance and one of them you see here, the princess was dropped into a compromised zone and cruelly abused and tortured. but they did do what they were sent to do which was bolster the resistance. back to odette. here she is in marseille where she meets and has a

passionate affair with funds on a and on the day she needs and she wears along skirt but she tears her copy of dos without under her arm as well but they are betrayed and she sent to regensburg where she barely survives and he's sent to the salt mines of master bird and they meet up after the war and it's a tragedy. so from deliberation, here are the women and here's the other side of the liberation. so to put my revisionist version is talking about women who did extraordinary things, i'm not denying the work of the collaboration but some accounts for between two and 300,000 franco german babies born but the women paid a heavy price, merely for talking to germans and sometimes it's genuine, sometimes for food and they were, they had their heads shaved and they were sometimes forced to parade naked around town and in many

of these occasions, they were revenge attacks. they were settling old scores so when the women finally came out from camp, one of the most important things to remember is that france was liberated in june 1914 so they had eight months to get used to peace and of course they liked peace. so by the time the rest of the world was, by the time the women came back from the camps they often said it was like a second debt. nobody wanted to know them if they been in auschwitz, they have had a tattoo and all the men's and were shaved but these women describe what it was like coming back to paris where nobody wanted to recognize them. some women evidence, and the woman you see here speaking at the nuremberg trials, the woman i showed you at the beginning was being reburied in the pantheon.

the anschluss were picked up, they been an easy target. they been easy to support the regime so there you'll see corrin lucier here who was an upstart, the most famous act she picked up was archuleta who everybody love and he didn't really want her, he punished her and she said at her trial, my heart is french. it's just that my. [bleep] isinternational . everybody thought that was so funny. >> but her sentence was commuted. i'm not saying what happened postwar is she had dr invents a new look, and thank you, use reams of fabric but this was a political gesture because it was for women to look beautiful and elegant at home. it was not for women going up to work so he de gaulle

government said women give up your checkbooks, given their jobs because the four men coming back to the camps are humiliated and they really need to have a job and of course in paris whether there were many shortages as you see in this picture, the new look was not popular but cartier has ever got in on action and produce this tool to show that women were free because they could be in municipal elections in 1945 and in national elections in 1946. so what's to stop cartier producing a jewel to celebrate that? christian dior was producing the new look , why have not we heard about catherine dor? this is one of the most what stories of all. catherine dior did not want people talking about her, she was one of the bravest sent to ravens brooke and you can see her here, and her uniform

when she emerged from regensburg but in the other picture you see her with her brotherchristian dior and the man she loved . dacia boundary was an aristocratic catholic and he couldn't or wouldn't care for her and catherine preferred to live quietly andprivately, not married after the war to him , literally and conservative friendsliving in sin . they ran a wholesale flower business together and she didn't want her story talk about . i think it's so revealing of why the story but it was only when john gagliano was for dor, and isometric remarks, so finally you're decided it's about time the world knew about catherine viewer, how can he be publicly anti-semitic when catherine and your. [bleep] done the extraordinary things and i'm just thrilled to tell her story and i think it's really sad that her story hasn't

been told at all. so to finish with, have a look at this picture of how some of these women started the war, looking elegant with their self stockings and their backs, their birthstones and how some of them finished the war in ravens brooke which is one of the most brutal caps only for women, just north of berlin and i really urge any of you who are going to berlin to take the train to allston bird and have a look. so the women would be lucky if they were given apair of matching shoes that didn't leak . they had flimsy blue and white striped jerseys with build rose so it's a start contract for many of them. and as i was writing this book, i often tied tried to say to myself what is it that makes a true parisien? is it something someone who's been an extravagant and wants the world to know they have

lots of money and they spend it on close but they know what's fashionable or is it someone who understands perhaps wearing the light close with the right jewels and the away, can have a greater meaning and for me, odette, the woman who i showed you getting married and who was in her suit and who you are now seeing in this photograph, she was one of the few women who tried to escape. she was caught, brought back , beaten and cruelly tortured and didn't think she'd survive and that's when an inmate made this drawing of her which is how i discovered her and the wonders of the internet. and i got to know her daughter, the daughter who was 11 years old when she was picked up and a granddaughter and buy some extraordinary circumstance they made their home in west london and among the manystories they told me about their mother , the one that really made me feel this

is the essence of a true parisien, they said everybody was given half an ounce or ounce of chinese plant to consume each day and that odette decided she could cope with being thin, almost a skeleton but if she had no roads, she'd rather rub back into her hands and she did survive the war so for me, she's the essence of a true parisien. finally i think i want to finish on an upbeat note. i think i've been fortunate to meet so many of these extraordinary women, many of them grandparents in their 90s and i think that's why they've been prepared to talk to me. i wanted to protect their children, and wanted normalcy. after the war they didn't

want to talk about all the ghastly and terrible things, they wanted to just move on in a way, although i'm sad i missed many who were no longer alive, i think i was lucky to catch these women who felt okay, it is about time i made the best of my life and i want the world to know what we did and it seems to me that helped me understand why the french after the war have really not wanted to talk about this episode in their history and they wanted to pretend everything was wonderful. and marvelous, life was good and nobody could do that better and edith the off who you see here singing life is beautiful.

>> follow us now with books are being published this week, former deputy director of the fbi as remicade recounts his career and his thoughts on the trump administration. in alienated america, the washington examiner's timothy kearney offers his thoughts of why somecommunities in america succeed when others don't .

harvard university professor shane now describes his journey to becoming a wall and award-winning mathematician in the shape of a life and in drug warrior, dea agent jack riley recalls his time taking the drug lord l chapel. also, behavioral neuroscience and the science of addiction in never enough. david horowitz argues the political left is attacking christianity in dark agenda and in putin's footsteps, nina christie, nikita khrushchev's great-granddaughter and jeffrey taylor explore russia's domestic and international identity . look for the titles and bookstores this coming week and watch for many of the authors in the near future on tv on cspan2. >> every year, but tv covers hundreds of author events and book festivals. here's a portion of a recent program. >> he comes out of the ocean

and i'm nine years old. i see on him these lines on his wrist. and he's far too young to the wrinkles. so i said to him dad, what's that? without blinking he said that what secret police bound my wrists together with wire behind my back so they can hang me from theceiling of the torture chamber . that changes your outlook and from a very early age i understood freedom is as fragile as it is precious and sooner or later the great ronald reagan said the loss of liberty is always one generation away whether it's nazis in world war ii, soviets of the cold war, whether it's johnny, they're all connected . they worship difference focal points of their ideology, but