stranger words and actions. next, sociologist neikoless signatures or genetic makeup provide us this means to work together and build societies. jd vans recall his child in a rust belt town in ohio in hillbilly elegy. following that is mind hunter. former fbi specialat john douglas' reconditioned of his time in the pure bureau's support unit and wrapping then look at the audio books, is financial advice book, i will teach you to be rich. some of those authored have appeared on book firefighter and -- book tewaaraton -- booktv. >> on our live author call yip prom "in depth," eedwards shared his thought on the current state of the conservative movement and reflects on the past.

>> i think it's very exciting time. people are a little bit -- some consider a little bit worried, hope, fighting too much. we're arguing too mump. disputing too much. like hatfields and mckoys. and i say that's great. because that means these are signs of vitality, of life, not of a movement that's cracking up. or that it'sen its last legs. people are fighting and debating and arguing so strenuously because something of value is concerned here and that is the conservative movement. which is still a major actor in american politics. at the same time we have an opportunity to accept change. i think that's part of what it means to be a conservative today. not to be so resistant that we won't allow anything to happen.

even edmund burke said that change is inevitable the the question is whether it's prudent change and they whats i as traditional conservative looking for to right kind of leadership and the right kind of debate and discussion so i welcome all that's going on this various strands, the various strains of conservativism. that's good. customming out of that, going to be a bigger, better, and i think more relevant conservative movement in the years ahead. >> want to read you a quote: barry would just go absolutely crazy if he were watching this today. he would be yelling at the television help would think it's embarrassing this situation we have with donald trump. it's not the republican party or the country that we knew 25 or 30 years ago. that was susan goldwater on march 21, 2016. >> right. right. well, i think there's something to be said for that.

but at the same time, goldwater was a practical politician. he was not just a man of principle, which he was, the conscience of a conservative, but he was also a practical person and would have said, wait a minute. 63 million people voted for this guy. why? and what is he doing? he would say i want to see now, supreme court nominations, deregulation, tax cuts, strong military, national defense being built up, being concerned about trade that is not just free but fair. i think barry goldwater would have applauded those things. at the same time, he probably would have said something like, well, why didn't trump's mother wash his mouth out with soap? and make him understand that we don't need a potty mouth, except

gold whort would not have wood in the word potty. >> how did you become known as a histori' conservative or historian of the conservative movement? >> i don't think i am. i think the historian of the conservative movement is george nash. a marvelous book, called an intel leg to all history of the conservative -- intellectual history of the consecutive movement flint 1945 and that's the primer we refer to he want to no what happened. 40s, '50s, 'into the '70 asks, george mash is a marvelous, careful, painstaking, brilliant historian so i count him as the historian of the conservative movement. it so happens i have written some books and biographies and histories. so maybe i'm sort of coming up

maybe from -- making my way up in this race. i didn't start out to be a historian. i really started out all those years ago as i say in just right to be a novelist. that didn't work out so well. i wrote three very bad novels, which never got pushed. thankfully -- published, thank my because it would have been an embarrassment and then got into political writing which is where i was for 25 years, and then one day i said i'm burned out. i've had it with worrying about campaigns, all of that. i want to go to the academy, i want to teach, write. and so i went back to school, got a ph.d, began teaching and that's where i've been these last 20 or 30 years. i guess i've also picked up a little bit from churchill, and i love that one line of his in which member said what is history going to say about you,

mr. churchill? and he said, i know because i'm going to write it. well, i think what i'm trying to do, in a small way, with my works, is to paint a picture of the conservative movement, sometimes from the inside, sometimes a little bit from the outside, so that people 20-30, 50 years from now will be able to refer to my books and understand the conservative movement better and more depth. >> host: one of the books you wrote is reading the right books arrange guide for the intelligent conservative. what are books in there. >> guest: gosh. there are 109 books and some of my favorite books are in there. the cop sense of a conservative. and my book of goldwater. bill buckley's god and march at yale. the road to surfdom.

we have eight or nine different categories and we took these 109 books and but them in -- statesmanship, economics, politics, history, and so forth. and what we did was to take a book, luke, say, the road to serve dom and then to boil it down in just a page or page and a half to try to get people to see what it is and perhaps to spark their interest in it and make them pick up the whole book and read it. that little book is only 125 payments bit one of the hadseest think its did because i had to read a book and then condense it down into three or four hundred words and that really is not easy. i mean, that takes an amount of

son centration and focus and i couldn't do it nor more than a couple of books in any one day. took us a while to come up with the 109 books. >> to watch the regs of the interview other authors on "in depth" visit our web site, booktv.org and click on the "in depth" tab at the top of the page. you're watching booktv on c-span2. next, learn about the america's true crime stories from an author discussion at last month's mississippi book festival. then duncan white looks a propaganda dirk the second world article and then anthem. that starts now, check your program guide for more information.