>> everyone is looking at the chinese economics and measurement and the white house was very successful in highlighting the threat. they issued a report with a stunning title called china's economic aggression. there was a huge policy fight with the beer crowd saying oh we can't say economic aggression but when you read the report you understand why. [inaudible conversations] >> good evening everyone. my name is brittany and i'm the

partner manager at politics and prose. i just want to thank all of you for coming tonight. love to see such a full house. i could not be more excited to introduce three powerhouse women that will speak tonight. we will have them come up in just a few minutes but first i want to show a short video. it was produced by two of our speakers tonight and it is narrated at the incomparable alexandria ocasio-cortez. his very schematic to what we will be talking about tonight and it's a really great introduction to our event. we'll play that and then we'll come back together. >> i took the poetry and from new york to d.c.. always brings me back to when i first started. in 2019 i was a freshman in the most diverse congress in history

up to that point. as a critical time. i'll never forget the children in our community. it would i was so inspired to meet this new class of politicians navigating the halls of power. it's often said you can't be what you can't see and for the first time they saw themselves. i think there was something similar with the green new deal. we knew that we could save the planet and we had all the technology to do it the people were scared. they said it was too big, too fast, not practical. i think that's because they couldn't picture it yet. anyways i'm getting ahead of myself. let's start with how we got here. 1977 new yorker senior scientist named james black gave a presentation about how burning fossil fuel could eventually lead to global temperatures are rising three or four degrees fahrenheit.

they gathered more data about global warming. guess who is doing all this research? exxonmobil the oil and gas company. exxon knew this whole time as did our politicians. 10 years later james hansen nasa's top climate science told congress he was 99% certain that global warming was happening and caused by humans. that was 1988 the year before i was even born. did they listen to the science including their own? that they change business models back to renewables? know, the opposite. they knew when they double down. they and others spent millions setting up a network of lobby think tanks to create doubt in denial about climate change produced an effort designed to detract from the science they have been doing and it worked. politicians went to bat for fossil fuels and these massive

corporations kept mining drilling and fracking like there was no tomorrow. america became the biggest producer and consumer of oil in the world. fossil fuels come in hundreds of billions while the public pays the lion's share to clean up their disasters. the generation of time we will never get back. entire species will never get back natural run -- wonders gone forever. in 2017 hurricane maria destroy the place where my family is from. it took many american lives is 9/11 and the next year when i was elected to congress the world's leading climate scientist declared another emergency. they told us we had 12 years left to cut our missions in -- emissions in half were hundreds of millions would be likely to face food and water shortages

poverty. 12 years to change everything. we set ourselves and we lived and worked, everything. the only way to do it was to transform our economy which we already knew was broken. the vast majority of wealth was going to just a small handful of people and most folks were falling further and further behind. there was a true turning point. lots of people gave up. they said we were doomed but some of us remembered we had been in peril before as the nation. the great depression, world war ii. we knew from our history how to pull together to overcome impossible odds and at the very least we owed it to our children to try. the way it began with democrats to back the house in 2018 in the senate and the white house in 2020 and watched the decade of the green new deal a flurry of

legislation that kicked off on social and ecological transformation to save the planet. it was the kind of swing for the fence ambition we needed. finally we were entertaining solutions on the scale of the crises we face without leaving anyone behind. that included medicare for all the most popular social program in american history. we also introduced the federal jobs guaranteed public options including dignified living wages for work. the biggest problem in those early years was a labor shortage were building a national smart grid retrofitting every building in america like this one all across the country. we need more workers. a group of kids from my neighborhood were in the middle of it all especially this one girl iliana. her first job out of college was with americorps climate restoring wetlands and by use and coastal louisiana. most of her friends included

some oil workers in transition. they took apart old pipelines and got to work with the same salary and benefits. of course when it came to healing the land we had huge gaps in our knowledge. let lee indigenous communities offered generational expertise to help guide the way. the iliana trader hand as his solar plant engineer for a while but eventually made her career raising the next generation as part of the universal childcare initiative. as it turns out caring for others works and we started paying real money to folks like teachers and home health aides. those were years of massive change and not all of it was good. hurricane sheldon hit southern california parts of miami when underwater for the last time but as we battled the floods and fires we knew how we were to

have started acting when we did. we didn't just change the infrastructure. we changed how we did things. we became a society that was not only modern and wealthy but dignified inhumane. by committing to universal rights with health care and meaningful work for all they stopped being so scared of the future. they stopped being scared of each other and we found our shared purpose. iliana heard the call to end in 2028 she ran for office in the first cycle of public way funded election campaigns and now she occupies the seat that i once held. it couldn't be more proud of her, true child of the green new deal. when i came back to my first term in congress writing that old-school amtrak all of this was still ahead of us in the first big steps just closing her eyes and imagining it. we can be whatever we have the courage to see.

[applause] like i said i think that is perfect introduction to what we are going to be talking about tonight. so first naomi klein is a social activist filmmaker and best-selling author known for political analysis and criticism of corporate globalization and capitalism. on a three-year appointment for december 2018 she is the gloria steinem chair of feminist studies at rutgers university. senior correspondent to intercept and of course the author of the book that we are here for tonight's the burning case for a green new deal sub -- "on fire" the burning case for a green new deal.

[applause] [applause] naomi klein will be in conversation with betsy reed editor-in-chief of the intercept an award-winning organization dedicated to holding the powerful accountable for her fearless journalism she's the former executive editor of the nation where she led the magazine's award-winning investigative coverage in his epic -- edited several books including going rogue, required reading. and last but certainly not least jane fonda who will be joining

the latter part of the conversation. fond as an actress extraordinaire author political activists and various accolades including two academy awards seven golden globe awards in the afi achievement award among many others. in addition. [applause] in addition to issues of civil rights phone has been a staunch opponent of oil and their adverse effects on the planet. please help me welcome to the stage iv betsy reed and naomi klein. [applause] >> welcome. it's wonderful to be here with you in this beautiful space.

i can imagine a better more important moment to be having this conversation and i can imagine a better person to be talking with than my old friend and colleague naomi klein who i worked with for many years at the nation before the intercept and it has this fantastic new book out naomi klein -- "on fire" the burning case for a green new deal. i have a video which naomi conceived along with the artist molly crabapple. we needed dose of hope in a dark time. her book "on fire" i just want to congratulate her because it's a fantastic achievement and it was reviewed today in "the new

york times". the reviewer wrote probably the dream sends an author would want in the review if i were a rich man i would buy 245 million copies of naomi klein's "on fire" and hand deliver them to every eligible voter in america. [applause] [applause] naomi i'd like to start by asking you to set the scene for us because it really does feel like a momentous time to be living through where i think we all feel common if you were here you feel like there's a responsibility to this moment. you have an understanding of the climate science and the politics can you tell us how you feel at this moment? >> first of all i'm just delighted to be here, to be back here and to be launching yet

another book in d.c. with the wonderful help of politics and prose. it's becoming a tradition and i enjoy it so much. thank you all for coming. betsy thank you for being here and jane it's such an honor to be with you here, charlie a legend among us. it's interesting the book came out yesterday so i'm still in that rusty stage of talking about it. i always murmured the first book i've published 20 years ago, no logo. the book came out in france and i went to france and i was interviewed by a journalist there and she said you know sometimes when the authors get to france their ideas are like chewing gum that lost all of its flavor. [laughter] and it is true when you talk about a look at does become like

old chewing gum that's lost all of its flavor. for me i amended very different phase. this is the second time i've talked about the book so its full flavor and i'm still feeling my way around. the truth is the question about how are you feeling and what is this moment is complicated and it really does depend on the hour if not the second of the day. there are moments of incredible inspiration and excitement like credit thunberg testifying on capitol hill and submitting her testimony. the 2018 icy pp report telling us we have 12 years now 11 and then read it and then act. [applause] or going to a meeting as they did in hour ago and hearing people who are planning on shutting down d.c. on monday

with the climate emergency. [applause] at the launch of the book yesterday in new york with the executive director of the amazing movement, you are here tonight and feeling all of the energy in building this incredible national youth movement that is so clear about what we cannot have in terms of continuing down this road that is already so catastrophic. i guess, and also being so clear on what we want instead and championing a vision of the future which i think is absolutely critical and i think we have made mistakes in the past movement of being afraid to put forward our guests and the vision of what we want instead.

so beautiful to be able to be on this tour to see the fearlessness around getting out of our issue silos. i think for a long time a lot of us i guess bought the idea that there was a scarcity. you have to stick in your lame and you've got to have homes that are modest enough that you can claim easy victory. i think we are finally realizing that we are stronger together and that we are stronger when we have the courage to come together and find our common vision for the kind of society we want to live in instead of this one that is betting people's futures on so many

fronts. we are all inside the climate but the truth is that this generation is seeing their lives by political leaders who don't attack them from guns in schools, don't protect in any way immigrant youth from being wrenched from their families, don't protect black youth from police, don't protect them from white supremacists and misogynist and trans-phobic sand on and on when they go on line. so it's really a moment where i think people are realizing that the system is failing on multiple fronts and because of that are less afraid of the kind of chain reaction we need. what i'm trying to write about climate change and started linking it with what their economic system i got a lot of

pushback from friends in the climate movement who said you know you are just making things harder. we can't make it sound so hard. why are you weighing down climate with all of these other issues? there was this feeling, right? it was just so backward because the truth is that people who are going to fight for the future we need up against really powerful forces and this is a powerful powerful force whether it's the fossil fuel companies are the banks that financed them or the politicians who are financed. we need a movement of people who have a lot to win and who have a lot that gained from change in who aren't afraid of change. where are we going to build that kind of movement when we are willing to make alliances with folks who are on the frontlines of all of these crises? that's where he i feel the hope that such an ache shift

honestly. it's a huge shift. a willingness to have that the clarity, the understanding that we need change at a systemic level, and excitement about having transformations that are on the scale of the crisis that we face. not a fear of that and excitement about it not because it's better than climate apocalypse in the future but because it's better than tuesday , and because it's better than the president. that is a really really big change. but if we are talking about the climate clock is really frightening what's happening. anybody who says they feel -- all the time is flying. that's not a rational reaction to the moment that we are living. this was the hottest summer on record. we have never had losing huge

swaths of amazon. we have lost much of the great barrier leave -- great barrier reef. these are the major features of our planet the ark day, the amazon, the great terrier reef and we are as my friend bill mckibben says losing them. this is not a crisis that is often the future. it is a crisis that is stealing lives and futures right now in the bahamas in paradise california. we can go on and on. and the arsonists are in charge in country after country. there is faced strange glee being taken.

scott morrison is coming from australia to the u.n. ja. they are all going to be prowling around. scott morrison the prime minister of australia bridis hunks of coal into the house of commons there were and held the pig you know here in d.c. with the snowballs and so on. things get so bad here in the u.s. that i think there's a tendency to think oh it's just us. this is a global context for something really scary is happening. in the death throes of this ideological projects of the urgency for the forces that really understand it's now or never that we have been given 11 years. now we see the sunrise and young people that have these t-shirts that say 12 years that they. up after that ipcc report came out. but it's 11 now. that report came out in sober.

some of the over. by the time there's a new administration it will be 10. this is the thing about time, it marches on. so we just have to win and we have this really narrow pathway. we have got to get somebody coming out of these primaries who gets this, who really gets this. they have to have a track record of taking on very powerful actors. they cannot be about what they say. has to be about the track record as well is what they say. then we have to take back the senate and all of that, hold onto the house and then stay organized, become more organized than we have ever been. the important thing about

calling it the new green deal as it reminds us of the old greendale and what we see is so interesting when you look at what was going on in this popular mobilization during the years of the original new deal. you think when you were winning massive victories like social security, unemployment insurance , regulating the banks that people's money but relax a little bit but oh no 19351936, 1937 they went up. all of the progressive elements of the new deal and there were many elements that were not permissive. african-americans were excluded from a programs women and agricultural workers were excluded. mass deportations of mexican-americans. there was discrimination in the distribution of relief particularly in the south.

there were also programs for african-american artists that were unlike anything this country has ever seen. the more people fought the more they got. that is the lesson of the original new deal and it's something we need to keep our eye on. where we are at, not where we should be, better than where we were. time marches on and we have a hell of a lot of work to do. [applause] >> thanks for that. >> it does seem thanks to you and many organizers and leaders that the left and progressives are seeing the connection between the war on immigrants and the migration flows and the climate crisis that we are in the middle of. the right is also making connections. you have written about the rise

of -- what do you see emanating from the right? >> we are going to get to the hopeful part. we have got to go into the fire first. the way i sort of map it is we have a climate fire but we also have these political fires on the right and they are also spreading and they are contagious. we see these connections between these figures the mutual admiration society that echoes around twitter between trump. matteo salvini in italy who up until recently the interior ministry in italy who had an a for policy when it came to migrants. the first migrant boat was in

italy last week. i have friends who go wild on these boats. they talk about a holocaust in the sea. there are month so many thousands of people dying in the mediterranean and white do not know how many because the whole policy is designed not to know. and they are wracked with guilt because they know if they had arrived five minutes later not only had hundreds of people drowned but nobody would know in a rapinoe record and that is happening every day. we have these countries who have these policies in which they call deterrence. australia has the same policy. they have island attention camps people are lighting themselves on fire. that's how desperate it is. in europe the whole strategy is

to offshore to these camps in libya. we are seeing it here. we are seeing it here. i don't think it's a coincidence that this kind of barbarism on the border is happening in the moment that climate change is becoming undeniable whether or not they denied or not by the way. trump has had to modify his golf courses because of sea level rise so it's not about if they think they are going to be our right. they think their wealth is going to insulate them on an individual level and also within their country. that's why their political projects for all these figures is to create a very defined in group, very defined circle of protection, the real people whether it's the real americans are the real indians and these

out groups inside countries and also outside and to cast those others as the invaders, the criminals, the security threat. we see patterns repeat again and again. the very possible pattern. keeps people fighting with each other and then they are free to plunder. but what we are seeing is the signals that are being sent by this type of politics is now paying a code by mass shootings. the shooter wrote in his manifesto that the reason he went to this walmart where there were many mexicans is because he was concerned about climate change and mexicans cannot have the same quality of life as americans. he is protecting the american

way of life and he said if americans aren't going to change we have to keep immigrants from having our way of life. extraordinary and he had been inspired by the new england shooter her wit and tomas and killed more than 50 people on march 15. he defines himself as an ethno- nationalist eco-fascists and he said part of what was driving him was concerned about what immigration was doing to the environment. i don't say that take these guys literally but the days are numbered and i would say the only thing in its barrier than unhinged far right racist who denies the reality of climate change is an orange -- unhinged far right racist who doesn't deny climate change. we have been working on this idea that somehow about convincing that guy he reads the

latest ipcc report he will decide join the paris accords. no because once he understands climate change is real and if the supremacist ideology is not challenged by all of these leaders then that becomes the justification. this is not a future thing. this is happening. this is happening. this is the ideology that allows people to die by the thousands. what i argue in the book is the choice between what i'm calling climate barbarism and the shift in values that is representative by the. new deal this is about what kind of people we want to be in the face of the reality that we are in it. we have to do everything possible to prevent catastrophic climate change, keep temperatures below 1.5 degrees but even if we do that we are

facing a future with climate shocks in it. we are seeing it already and we don't have hope of getting it low 1.5. the question is what kind of people are we going to be? people say what is all this just the stuff doing in the green deal? this is about what kind of people we are going to be. are we going to take care of each other and this is going to determine whether or not when the shocks come whether or not people survived. look at puerto rico. the 3000 people or more who died after hurricane maria was not because of fallen debris. it was because of a collapsing health care and electricity grid that had been systematically neglected under years of economic austerity and colonial policies.

the times we are headed for her hard and we have to decide if we believe that human teams have value by right of there being human. we really have to decide on that question. [applause] >> would do you say to those he heard that and say this climate emergency is to her chin and we don't have time for all that. those are nice to have medicare for all but they are not necessary and we need to do what's necessary. they have various other issues that they prefer light carbon taxes even playing around with engineering and would you say to that line of argument which does seem to be rising and more and more people are awake to the

emergency. >> it's interesting because you hear these counterargument in the face of the proposal of a green new deal framework. it would be easier to have a carbon focus approach. what i don't understand is the united states government has been talking about having a climate policy for 30 years and it does not have an. it up until now has only been talking about the carbon-based approach and we have only been talking about cap-and-trade policies in d.c.. they haven't had the political power to get them through. so this idea that is suddenly easy i don't really understand. what i have seen up until recently if you polled americans about climate change for the first time not only is there a

clear majority of americans who understand that climate change is happening understanding humans are causing it but when you ask them the majority say that they consider to be an urgent issue in some cases it's climate health care. up until recently what would happen is even though democrats who said they cared about climate change if you ask them to rate the issue they would put climate change lasts. to say you have to care it's the end of the world it won't matter where you can say how do we figure out how to lower

emissions and investing in schools and health care and creating millions of unionized jobs. maybe it would make it more popular not less because those are the most popular issues in this country. in france we have exhibit a of what happens when you have that narrow carbon approach and you don't tackle systemic injustices. emanuel macron has overseen policies of relentless economic austerity passed trade unions in france and handed out tax breaks to millionaires and corporations any imposed a price on carbon and said this is how we are going to deal with i'm a change and lo and behold he inspired an uprising. and he rolled it back so even if you don't agree with the justice party even if you don't think people should have health care for some reason it's actually

not practical because people are resisting policies that offload the cost onto working people who are already overstressed because their economies so unequal and unfair. it makes up for the time we don't have. france doesn't have carbon now because of this that we don't have time to treat this as a single issue. [applause] >> your conscience and your writing and speaking about the importance of electoral politics to making a lot of this possible but you are also interested in

it different kind of organizing. i wonder you know what you would say about how people should most effectively engaged in the fight in the next year as we are facing a very critical election and will have a huge impact on humanity and our ability to do anything about this crisis. >> yeah. as i said every single star has to align politically and we need to be organizing counter powers and mass movements that an unprecedented scale. that's why it is useful to awaken the historical memory because there were both. it wasn't a time where people were saying one mattered and the other didn't. mattered that you had a government that was open and it

mattered that it was the high point of trade union organization and organization of other aspects of society that was able to push. not every government can be pushed in the same way. some of you remember mass demonstrations against the iraq war. we know what it's like to try to push governments that cannot be pushed. sometimes it may have governments that can be pushed to relax. we did that a little bit in the first obama term. what i love about the sunrise movement and to have a table outside and you should all sign up and they are going to give a really good direction about how the plug-in to this momentum. i understand it is young at heart, is that correct? this opens it up to a movement for people who are young at heart.

what's exciting about what sunrise is doing is that they are first organizers and outside counsel par and are determined to hold their political friends accountable. i think some of you probably first heard about sunrise shortly after the democrats took back the house and maybe were expecting a victory parade in instead sunrise occupied nancy pelosi's office. [applause] .. before i moved to the u.s. i was involved in the project in canada like a deal let's call

the wii benefactor.we came up with this political platform. then we started working with different sectors to map the rapid transition to renewable energy would need for them. we work with the postal workers who were having a crisis because the government was trying to close it off. instead of just saying, don't do that, they said, okay, we have a counter plan for what the post office should be. but get mail differently now. we don't just want things to be the same. but why should we sell off this valuable public infrastructure let's transform it and put into the center of the transition to the next economy. we came up with a plan with their members for the post office of the future which we

have ãbcharging stations out front.coastal banking. lending to communities so they can have community controlled renewable energy. a domestically made fleet of postal vehicle is already the largest domestic fleet of vehicles why not make it electric? why not make a domestically created a bunch of jobs. they came up with these ideas but they don't just have to deliver mail they could also be delivering locally grown produce. they knock on more doors than anyone they could be checking in on the elderly which is something that postal workers do in france and japan. completely reimagine this piece of public infrastructure so it was about the economy in care and low carbon economy was a really beautiful process. i think that should be happening in every work place. i think we need to look at thinking organizing for what agree new deal means for education, what it means for

healthcare. what it means for tax and then this is starting to happen we start to see sectorial three new deal groups forming to do this kind of mapping. at this point it's a rough draft. it's a short resolution. the original plan was for there to be a house committee that would have been spending this whole year helping people do this to market a process with the green new deal collectively and the battle was lost. that means this has to be done in a much more self organized way. there is no central committee that will say you do this, you do that.

this i think is not instead of electoral politics i think it's part of what motivates people to vote. it's a vision for what they want instead of what we have now. >> i would like to welcome up to the stage the amazing actress and activist, jane fonda. [inaudible speaking] [inaudible speaking]

>> i was feeling really bad, i was feeling better my skin. i knew i wasn't doing enough but what to do when you're famous? how do i use my celebrity? in this very often happens if you are a good person, labor day weekend i received a copy of ã [inaudible speaking] i didn't know it would change my life. [inaudible speaking]

they only explained what this means. people with as burgers who are on the spectrum aren't affected by what other people think they should be or think they should feel or think they should do. as a kind of clarity it's a laser focus of the get interested in something, that's it. when she was very young greta started studying climate and the more she read and learned she realized the truth.this is like a train rocketing toward us and nobody is behaving appropriately including her parents.

it upset her so much she was traumatized into not speaking and not eating for a year. i don't know about you, that just hit me like a thunderbolt. this young person who was so clear saw the truth and got traumatized. what was so great is what eventually got her out of the trauma was what the students were doing the parkland students in florida, action as a way of doing that. get you out of grief and despair. she began her every friday sitting in front of the swedish parliament with the side that said school strike for climate. when i read that i knew that this was a time when we have to get out of our comfort zone when we have to disrupt

business as usual and go further and the other thing that is so wonderful about naomi's book is that she gives it vision of the good things that could happen. she says we are facing a climate crisis but we are also facing an apathy crisis the fabric of society is unraveling. since we have to redo it, why not do it right. also, as naomi points out, so much warming is baked in. things are going to get a lot worse even if we lose everything right starting now it's getting a lot worse. we will be so much better able to deal with this him if we

feel respected, if we are earning a decent wage if we care for each other. we have to stick together. we have to march in unprecedented numbers and stick together and love each other and make this happen and we can't stop until we do. i'm really grateful, this is really important i agree with that new york times writer. i'm grateful to the young people. i stand with you guys is a grandmother across generations we have to stick together. [applause]

a lot of grandmas and here i can see.i'm wearing a hat because i'm letting my hair go gray and it doesn't look very good right now. [laughter] >> one thing that's amazing one of the amazing things about global use movement and greta is that it's not only about protests and rallies. there are new forms of protest emerging and it's a generation that has these amazing instincts about how to use online space. and what greta is done in the last few days. has she confronted congress.

>> and going to be doing some of it myself i'm not going to announce it now but because of greta and because of the sunshine movement sunrise movement. it sunshine too. i said i'm going to step out of my comfort zone and put my body on the line and you will be hearing about it it's gotta be created. fdr included so many artists in the new deal we have to do that this time. we have to do a lot. we are in a civilizational internalization and audits of the artist are the best people, poets, sculptors, and helping us move into the new period. that's what art is for. >> i'm so excited by this because it's one of the things about the original do a deal that i love the most is that it ushered in a artistic renaissance and there was so

much funding for public art much of it is still around but hundreds upon hundreds of murals.tens of thousands of theater productions. really avant-garde. it was democratic. this idea that art is not for just coastal elite everybody has a right to art. one of things that artists is low carbon. it doesn't burn a lot of carbon to put on a play with your friends. to get a bunch of kids together and paint a mural. as we head into this rocky future there are things that we have to contract. the fact that we have turned shopping into our main communal activity is a problem. where all of the research shows as it actually makes them happy is not that.

what makes people happy is time with friends. in community time in nature. art. we need to expose the idea that this is elite and we also need to celebrate it as low carbon work. so i'm just so excited because i feel like we have a crisis of imagination that's one of the biggest problems we are up against. we've been failed by hollywood they keep showing us visions of the future we are just ourselves only worse. the idea that artists could step into this and help us imagine our way out of this is so exciting. i want to thank you so much for your courage and i love that this movement is intergenerational as well if you look at the culture that has struggled for hundreds of

years the movements are intergenerational. jane and i were standing rock. one of the things most beautiful about that was the respect for elders.in the wisdom that comes from a life of commitment. there is something about the way that naomi writes that is so accessible that it is your heart and that makes you say, yes, not everybody does that. except you. thank you naomi so much. [applause]

>>. >> come join me when you hear about it. [laughter] [applause] [inaudible] >> i wonder, jane, when you been an activist for a long time and you experience many different movements. what do you think is different about this movement. >> what is different its human survival is at stake. i remember after the terrible elections of 2016 some very prominent women said to me, it will be four years and then ãb

i said, no, we don't have four years to lose.this is different than any other time we've had. there's all these issues we are dealing with but there is this overarching issue which is that we can be destroyed. we cannot have a livable future. these young people may not have a future that can be lived in and that's never really existed before. so we are tampering with something unknown and requires every single ounce of our courage and commitment. no matter who we are, it's just so great that greta is on the spectrum. it can also be very hard, naomi writes about how she's teased in school before she became so famous but she calls it her superpower. the ability to seek clearly is her superpower.

take that everybody on the spectrum. you got a superpower. i think it's really special it's been a big gift to the world and in one way because there's a crisis of attention. that's an exasperated by the trump era in media and the way it's been covered. we just completely sucked into this daily drama of what is the terrible thing he said today? she's managed to shift the framework. >> one of the things i write about in the book is the problem of mist timing when it comes to the climate crisis that it lands at our lab in this moment where our economic

system has made us feel uniquely incapable of dealing with it. which is why you can have these appeals to human nature that people like ãbare making more and more. we can't think long term we are just too selfish and focused on our immediate gratification. it's true that the economic system we have for the past 40 to 50 years has told us we are just the collection of our wants. and that democracy is just voting for the color of your time. we make trouble when we try to do things collectively. milton friedman said to a gust of peanut that i quoted in shock doctor that things went wrong will he started to think we could do good things with other people's money. talking about the new deal. so this idea has taken root and everybody under 50 has just grown up in it.

which is, freedom is just fulfilling those wants and something suspicious about doing things collectively. things go terribly wrong with people try to do things collectively. human leisure is not one thing. we are complicated creatures of humans. we are selfish and we are generous. we do think short term without consequences. and there are humans on this planet who know how to think seven generations into the futures and seven generations into the past. we can be many things as humans and the different systems that we live under encourage different parts of ourselves. this is why i think it's important we talk about values, not just policies. it's about what values we are going to incur.

what sorts of culture we will incur within ourselves. the tech companies have done a fantastic job of having us run around in technological circles chasing the next dopamine hit. we have these moments i don't think greta is unique in her defense of x essential fear and clarity of what needs to be done. every kid i've ever met if you tell them about climate change, like we have to stop doing that. every single kid has that reaction. most of us would in the typical wiring. i know a little bit about this because i know a lot of kids in the spectrum. most of us do this thing called mirroring. we look to each other to learn how to behave. that's usually really helpful to build cohesive community. the problem is, if you live in a society that's run by polluters and the politicians who pay them.

and economic system built on incident growth and profit than that mirroring becomes a problem because one minute you are looking at an image of wallace's jumping to their desk going, what are we going to do? and forwarding books to your friends and the next minute i captivated that facial contouring thing? [laughter] and what did trump just tweet? our brains are being full by these in part by these technologies. there is a superpower with some of these kids who don't mirror. who trust their first instinct. now they are helping those of us with more typical wiring should trust our first instincts and go, wait a minute, why aren't we acting like our house is on fire? it's interesting because the reason you are not supposed to say the house is on fire in a crowded theater is, if it's a

false alarm, people will start running. but you are supposed to say the house is on fire at the house on fire. because people will start running. and you want them to run. you want them to leap you want them to do all those things. i was talking earlier about the fires and climate change and the fires of the far right dangerous hateful ãbbut there is a third fire i really believe that and that is the fire of this movement of this growing movement. in this clarity and determination that so many young people have enter inspiring and real time. and we are going to see it on friday. we been called to join this strike. not just young people. we been called to disrupt our

business as usual. it's going to be a day but it's going to be an important day because it's going to be a day where we manifest the fact that we cannot just sleepwalk into this. we have to disrupt business as usual and it's a muscle we need to start using. we are going to use it in different ways and context but that can be really important and i hope all of you find a way to participate if you can do that. >>. [applause] >> on the eve of the climate strike i wanted to ask if you would read a brief and very powerful passage from the introduction of your book.

>> okay. yes. this is from the end of the introduction. the message coming from the school strikes is that a great many young people are ready for this kind of change. they know all too well at the sixth mass extinction is not the only crisis they have inherited. they are also going up in the rubble of market euphoria in which the dreams of endlessly rival living standards have given way to rapid austerity and economic insecurity. in techno-utopianism which imagined a frictionless future of limitless connection and community has morphed into addiction for the algorithms of relentless corporate surveillance and inspire online misogyny and white supremacy. once you've done your homework, greta thunberg access, you realize we need new politics.

we need economic. where everything is based on our rapidly declining and extremely limited carbon budget. we need a whole new way of thinking we must stop competing with each other we need to start cooperating and sharing the remaining resources of this planet in a fair way. because our house is on fire. and it should come as no surprise built on promises, discounted futures and sacrificial people rigged to blow from the start. it's too late to save all our stuff. but we can still save each other and a great many species too. put out the flames and build something different in its place. something a little less ornate but with room for all of those who need shelter and care. let's forge a global greed new

deal. [applause] >> thank you all for coming. thank you jane for being here. so wonderful to have you. [applause] >> thank you betsy. [applause] >>. [inaudible] [inaudible speaking]

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