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live on c-span network. on life at cspan.org. order on the free see cspan2 radio app. seneca oil, back a friend of the cspan2 network. his head another falcon which is what. >> which is what we callru the first nonpartisan non- profit, new site devoted entirely to covering the issues of the broken democracy and all the different efforts out there to troy and make democracy work better. we look at the impeachment process today, where are we. >> pit bulls we look at it today we are the beginning of another week where i guess is the week six as we all know, the house so the ground rules last week on that partyline vote. and so now we have another week of packed with scheduled depositions in several of the witnesses we sayve will not show up and probably the most important thing that's going to happen this week is the house tells the committee is going to release the transcripts of

monday of the depositions that have been taken sopt far. those of the headlines. >> the tickling of the sunday program, representative jackie spear or adam shaft rather talking about where this process is heading in the allstate who have open hearings but so far, they're not staying when. why is that. >> i guess is the great aestion. i'm sure they're working behind the scenes to troy and get their ducks in a row and decide if y ey are trying to make a case obviously with the public hearings, to the country as well as to the members of the house. that their case is solid for bring articles of impeachment. they want to do that in a strong way they want to have telegenic witnesses first. this have a lot of producing behind the scenes. and were coming up on thanksgiving and that's going to make it difficult. that week is probably can be pretty difficult week to schedule hearings. so they are trying to do two things at once which is make the best case to the country and hurry up and do it and those two

things aren't always in alignment. smacks of the house is out this week close door sessions if they have those witnesses testify. do you say its. can't happen as early as next week when he say will wait until after thanks giving. >> about, yes, i say it could happen as early as next week. i have not yet got a sense for who is their idea of opening windows. i don't know weather it's colonel of dume in order they want to bring back, people have lives. they have attorneys. there is lots going on so i don't know but yes, i do say that they since they have made clear, that they i guess they've made it pretty clear that they wanted do or what they're going to do in the house side by the end of this calendar year which means by the week before christmas. time is of the essence. >> we have taken a look from the cspan2 video library some of the past moments of the moments of impeachment of bill clinton and from the housework, representative nancy pelosi now course is the speaker of the

house is over 19, 1998, his house was about to vote on the impeachment of president clinton before his trial went to the p u.s. senate, this is what she said. >> today the republican majority has brought judging the president with fairness. but impeaching him with a vengeance. in the investigation of the present fundamental principles which americans hold dear, privacy and fairness and checks and balances, have been seriously violated. and why, because we are here today, because the republicans in the house are paralyzed with hatred. i president clinton and until the republicans free themselves of this hatred, our country will suffer. >> was 20 years ago. it was like only an estate. >> it was only i know it going to be playing some clips to dave of people who are still involved in this impeachment. are also involved in that impeachment.

i want to take those moment to make a note because almost every time i'm onry c-span you might e talk about different things. tit might look from the video,s though this people, are still around. in fact only missus policy is only one of 56 as members who was it was around. this one out of every eight who was around for the last impeachment and this impeachment. so there's been an enormous turnover so seven out of every eight have never been through this before and it is a new and quite awesome with a lowercase a responsibility for both. in most guys take it very seriously. obviously what we see here just like what we saw with senator graham then representative graham in the last block, our members who are wearing different house now that they were thin. and i am sure that we could or you could hand missus pelosi script to almost any republican and they would be happy to read it now with the change name change from president clinton to president trump. >> around the present and the

member in the house then and now today to republican congressman canton on this what he had to see from december of 1998 on the impeachment of bill clinton. >> we were a nation consumer scandal, driving good people from government. were talking about here is the president's conduct was illegal and immoral and was disgracefuln and is indivisible. but the fact is that it don't believe it rises to the loophole of treason of bribery in the principal we are setting that is in the future, all of us anyone who assumes the offices of the present state is subject to the depositions lawsuits and to have a pet deposition a salmon and scrutinized by an independent counsel. how monday former presidents will be of loss of this was the case. if this principle prevailed. also i would ask my fellow republicans, throughout the 1980s, we sold the abuses of special councils by lawrence walsh and others as they went the reagan and bush and

ministration. good people like on brought down involving line. all of us knew it was wrong. here it really hasn't been today somehow we are wheeling to apply a different standard in a different principal. and that is wrong. this is a sad day for our country and it said year for our nation because of the conduct of the present but also because i believe that as republicans, we have failed to i.c.e. our icobligation as a matter of conscience i must vote against impeachment and i rolled the stay. [applause] >> so fascinating. mr. king, as you said he was the president that went to new york to watch wrestling on saturday night and took mr. king with him. that's an indication that he thinks mr. king is going to stick with him. the way he stuck with clinton 20 years ago. interestingly mr. king, there were five republicans who voted against the baseman and all forecasts and there were five

democrats who voted for impeaching bill clinton. those ten people, mr. king is the only one lift. so we will be watching him but the indication from this past weekend as he's probably going to stick with president trump. >> listing your phone calls. due is joining us from cumberland, maryland. the republican line. in washington good morning. >> good morning starts. greatly appreciate you taking my call. i am a trump supporter but all of these types of situation very open-minded because number one, i'm american, and i actually put that above trump. i'm trying to figure out why if impeachment is need it, i totally understand that but this man since the day he came down the escalators has been bombarded and i would see viciously attacked ever since the day he took office. but everything we are going through now as a country, is

overshadowing the fact that what biden has been accused of was going on while he was our vice gainednt and his family off of foreign countries. >> will i say that there is some dispute over weather the bidens, surely vice president son was paid handsomely. quite generously to be in the board of this company, so in that sense, on violent biden did benefit. but i say there is and is open oo significant dispute weather the vice president benefited financially from anything that might've happened with ukraine. on the question of president trump and his being subject to significant criticisms as you said since the day he came down the escalator, and that is true for sure. i'm not sure that if you go back and watch almost any president,

of either party, go back and look at the frontage of their treatment by the press, it is comparable. i would see it is comparable. i have found in my time covering washington which goes back on them incredibly to me, until the bush 41 administration, the reagan administration, presence of both parties get daily excoriated to. and the mainstream media as well as by not mainstream media and the public. >> that's a who's joining us from memphis, tennessee. democrats line. a. >> good morning. my thing is this. as you as an american, can support somebody that supports the child molester and gets on national tv and mimic people with disabilities, if you can

support somebody like that, what kind of american are you. if you support somebody like that, not only is he not fit to be president, you are not fit to be an american. thank you. >> so what you said betsy, is what you hear from the president's critics all of the time everyday. i say it is safe to predict that every present changes the culture in some way by their not necessarily salad by the policies they pursue brought by the personality they present to the public. and surely mr. trump his approach to discourse, is going rsto change the culture for some time. twenty change probably the way our children with twitter children believe believe is appropriate. that having been said, were talking today about the

impeachment and there was plenty of evidence mr. clinton's behavior did likewise. and his behavior change what children thought was appropriate in terms of dealing with their sexual things and what could be view as honest. so i would just see that this is the nature of the presidency. the presidents of both parties especially with those of forceful personalities and bill clinton had a a forcible personalities artist donald trump.p. in their daily presentation to the country really permeates the cultures in ways that we will so see for some sometime. >> of course is the fourth time that the house of representatives have taken on the impeachment process. and her johnson, was not convicted in the senate, it began with richard nixon he resigned before there was about the house. in the second time there was with bill clinton and you mentioned, in december 1998, after the house voted on impeachment, that's what he told his supporters from the rose

garden. >> on echo something mr. gephardt said, it is something i have felt strongly all of my life we must stop the politics of personal destruction. [applause] we must get rid of the poisonous venom of excessive partisanship and obsessive animosity and uncontrolled anger did that is not what america deserves. that is not what america is about. we are doing well now. we are a good and decent country. but we have significant challenges we have to face. in order to do it right we have to have some atmosphere of decency and civility. some presumption of good faith

some sense of proportionality and balance in bringing judgment against those who are in different parties we have important work to do. we need a constructive debate that has all of the different voices in this country heard. in the halls of congress. i want the american people to know today that i am still permitted to working with people of good faith and goodwill of both parties to do what is best for oures country. to bring our nation together to lyft our people up and move us all forward together. it is what i've tried to do for six years and is what i intend to do for tomorrow. until the last hour of the last day of my term. >> this from december 19th, 1998 in the rose garden at the white house, david hawkins, you are smiling. >> i am hearing a very different tonality than what we've heard from the current president of

the last two years. as i said, he had a forceful personality and one of his great political skills was that he, new he recalibrated himself quite dramatically from moment to moment. and he knew in this moment that was in his best political interests to the sound bit, contrite and wounded. and to talk about his aspirations which i say everybody is watching this morning and everybody goes wprobably within shouting distance of where we're sitting now, what a great that did not get what he wished for. we've not had a politics of moderation. but it is the right tone for him to strike at the time. and it served him politically well in the short term. >> is seven oh 690 and tweeted this. he said some of in the phone call with the ukrainian

president is perfectly stated. there is no reason to call witnesses to analyze my words and meaning this is just another democratic oaks that i've had to with from the data collected and before. calling it disgraceful. eflet's get right joining us frm pennsylvania. democrat line. atu are on the air with david hawkins. editor-in-chief. >> good morning. i really wanted to question the balance of power that exists and has existed for maybe 50 years. vesay that the sheer size and the sheer power now, of the executive branch and the weakness of congress in terms of them always troy to be reelected every two years. it is made the true impeachment kind of impossible if the two parties were k together, if the house and the senate were

divided i say it would be a little bit more realistic that impeachment could work but now it just seems like an empty gesture. and i would like to hear your comments on that. >> all right, you make a really important.about the rise of executive authority over the last 50 years, every president wants it to the hammer, the world is the nail right. to every president, the sea claiming as much power for themselves as possible as sort of what they want to do. they are in an imbalance power is the executive and judiciary. leaks that sensitive president, in modern times as troy to push that what is possible more and more and more. george w. bush did it barack obama did it and now certainly donald trump has doing it. your connection if it to impeachment is an important one because what we are seeing even

this week, when we talked about as i said, almost offhandedly, right at the start that several the people who have been asked to come testify this week before the intelligence community, they're not going to show up. in recent weeks we've shown several people who have been told to not testify, to the congress anyway.fy and now this week it seems as though the trend is reversing d itself most of the people who have been summoned to currently work for the administration or who previously worked with administration are going to have a the presidents command and dictate that they not show up. some of this is going to be thought out and saw it on and reports and it is one lawsuit about this that is not actually going to take his next important turn until early december which could mess up the timing of the democrats. in terms of how much more o evidence they want to collect and how much are public they want to go with their cases. before they learn dependently

leap from the course which witnesses will or will be made to testify. the important thing here is that the presidents main defense is his principal defense brother than his rhetorical defense on twitter in these rallies, is to, have a tone to it and to troy to slow or stop the investigation at every turn. that is a huge use of muscular executive power. >> lots of tweets coming in. this is from patrick staying oh my good news, sexual assault is the crime. it's not a cultural issue to compare clinton's discretion to president trump his crime. he's calling it ludicrous. student christopher from oleander new york. it. >> good morning how are you doing. i've got a problem with me a lot report. he supposed to be bipartisan but there is nothing in there about the uranium dealpp and we all kw that there's a urinate radium deal going on.

as like they got their hand caught in the cookie jar. and they're trying to blade their brother even though the brother hand in the cookie jar. and everybody is falling the lead on it and see oh yeah, is the brother the brother. it's the same thing with ukraine. with that joe biden hisen son sitting there with his hand in the cookie jar which is directly tied to joe biden. but all in all, as president trump that is ludicrous what people are believing right now on this whole thing. what is your thoughts. >> my principal thought is that i don't say we all know about a urinate re- uranium deal. what you refer to as the uranium deal, is the relatively, if there was more seriously sourced and more to it more explicit about it, you can be darn sure i would hope that you would be darn sure you might not be, given the distrust of the media

but the media be would be on the if there more to it. reports would be onto it and if there were a crime at work, prosecutors would be onto it especially prosecutors for this justice department. >> very strange how the senate this impeachment committee a few weeks before that whistleblower came forward. to find a little strange hashtag deep state and kirk and guillory. >> no, the select committee on intelligence was not to set up. before that whistleblower shut up. it is permanently part of the congressional stacker structure they exist everywhere. so has brought new. and the only thing that is new about it stephanie's we've god look at more. power there

supposed to be conducting these depositions behind closed doors and then holding public hearings and then releasing a public report which would then go to a owdifferent committee judiciary committee which in modern times has been the committee that decides which articles of impeachment to graft and to send on to the full house. >> the president has been busy tweeting in the new york times is pointing out that heath has a mart out more than 11000 tweets. new york times .com. and this from the president about in our ago referring to the economy. record high, spend your her name well. let's go to susan in minnesota. republican line. >> thank you very much, i am concerned because we don't necessarily have a fair profit or process. regarding duere process. they should be open with the attorneys on both sides including the republicans having the right to call witnesses and

subpoena and that hasn't happened yet and they see what will but i'll believe it when i sssee it. and all transcripts should be given to the american people by both sides together seeing the same thing and also remember the ukrainian president said that he felt no problem with obama talked with the open mic with the russian president. that was never questioned. and i do say to be fair to both sides we should also investigate biden. thank you. >> accuses in. will be interesting to have you call back. i will be on but after all of those things happen or if they all happen, is that i'll believe it when i see it weather you say that once these process issues that you are concerned about, it seems as though the vote last week, is going to address almost all of those concerns and the transfers will become public and they will be public hearings and there will be the republicans call witnesses

so we will see what we will see if your concerns are swayed. i should also note that there is this perception in the public which the republicans have tried to underscore, that what is happening behind closed doors now, is an entirely democratic process. it's not. all of the republicans who were on the intelligence community or the armed services committee where i believe, the governor operations committee are entitled to attend those depositions and they are entitled to question the witnesses so it's something liks hundred of the 200 members of the republic conference has entrée into these rooms. so they are allowed right now. >> you can text us your commen comments. also on twitter and cspan2. this is from bill who has the following. double standards on the lift and the media has been taking to

behold. we are told military service gives him extra credibility. a near week after the same people army ambassador as a russian asset. >> okay, i say. >> the politics and division. and really sharp divisions between democrats and republicans looking at it through their own resins. absolutely. . . . there were 31 democrats to join

the republicans to vote to begin the formal impeachment proceedings against bill clinton, that's obviously more than we saw last week, we went from 0 numbers of the minority party and in the end there was five numbers on each side in the senate trial, the return republicans who voted against both articles of impeachment, five articles -- five republicans who voted against impeachment and ten who voted against the second period at this point were not seen much indication that a similar even slivers of bipartisan looming ahead and why is that because as you say we live in a polarized country which is the president's tweet this morning about the economy and the stock market, that's one of his ways of trying to do polarized the moment to try and draw some interest to independents and democrats who are going to include that the economy is on his side.

it worked for bill clinton with the impeachment trial, he was writing a pretty good economy in writing much higher approval ratings.that process then the president is now. the website is the fulcrum u.s., are david hawkins who wrote politics and edited with cq weekly in our listeners on c-span radio, he is joining us from north oxford massachusetts. good morning. >> good morning. i'm very much concerned about this. i read all the documents i feel the words and numbers, the terms in the constitution, the house of representatives shall have this power of impeachment, impeachment is not a one step,en it's a phase and i think a phase

has been ruined because they did one without the boat and the inquiry started another inquiry is post a one with the rest equally participating. i would like to also point out, i have a very serious problem with words when it comes to the press, president, the opponents and the supporters, that is the word transcript. i read the document to her three times and it says specifically in the last paragraph of the first page that this is not a transcript, this is a memorand memorandum. >> take you for the call. i assume you're talking about the call in a case paid but if i may go back to make sure there's

a lot of criticism of the house democrats have taken that this impeachment process so far down the roadn without publicity and without public proceedings. their defense which may be heard and maybe haven't, they say in some ways all impeachments are similar in some ways they're different. some ways in modern time during watergate and during bill clinton's time, a lot of the investigatory work, the fact-finding was done by prosecutors, done by watergate, a special water under prosecutor and independent counsel can start, but they did much of the fact-finding and turned over what they have learned to the house. and then it was the house that went public and consider those facts and moved impeachment

articles. different this time and what were working with with the house of representatives is not the work of a prosecutor, they're not working with them will report, there working with their own fact-finding which they would say appropriately done eehind closed doors when you doing fact-finding you should do off-cameraac that's the differee there. >> on the calls is alan joining us from ford. good morning alan. >> good morning guys. i just wanted to say, i think what we are observing is kind of sad, it's a reminder of how far and remove where from a chimpanzee origins were receiving tribalism on display. i think it's pretty obvious what is going on here and it's amazing to see the gop push all the chips all in on this president as if they had no better options in the past or in

the future to hang their careers and their potential political sives on the back of the president that lies consistent consistently and does the most egregious things right before our very eyes. it is really amazing to see that, very sad. >> thank you. it has surprised many of us that the house republicans of the republicans generally have stayed in such step of the president, not only because of what they say that they don't alally agree with the approach to governance but also true he is not pursued an entirely conservative agenda has been and remains a fascinating thing to watch and they are sticking with

him -- the general rule as we talked about tribalism and polarized state of things, one side gets locked in ons a messe that tribe rallies behind the message and stick with it. it's what happens, since are talking about clinton and conversant to 20 years ago, it absolutely was what happened with republicans with both sides on the clinton matter even after the voters punished the republicans of the polls in 1988. they gave the republicans -- the republicans lost seats, it was the first time since the new deal, since a 1930s when the party opposing the president had lost to the midterm election and yet they stuck withpo him. he had to resign but they still stuck with the strategy until the end.

>> this for marty, a tweet saying the democrats continue that the impeachment process is a political process so don't be upset when the republicans political. let's go back to elijah cummings passed away earlier this year, he was on the house floor december 19, 1998. >> the framers of the not entrust did this house with the power to impeach the president of the united states in order to establish this body as a court of personal morality. impeachment was supposed to be a constitutional shield, not a moral or political sword. for all of these reasons we should step back from this dangerous cliff, serious crimes have been committed that this congress needs to address. every morning children across the nation go to school and sit in overcrowded classrooms and deteriorating and public

facilities and congress turns a blind eye, that's a serious crime. every afternoon, people find themselves lacking access to affordable healthcare, trying to figure out how to afford prescription drugs that they need. people are suffering, and even dying even as we debate today. that is a serious crime. and every evening, people sit at the dinner tables, wondering how they will afford a college education for the children. whether they need or even if they will be able to get a second job. that'sob a serious offense. we should be leaving personal and more practice to the court, the branch of government where they properly belong and we should be doing the job we were elected to do, the wisdom of history, not this moment. >> that's late congressman

elijah cummings for 20 years ago. >> this was the same tone or same rationale that many democrats were using this year for saying we should not pursue impeachment and we should pursue our agenda, where the geordie and to make policy and have the ability to change the debate over policy by using our half of congress to advance policies that we like and we should be focusing on that rather than on the president's misconduct. that was what nancy pelosi was pursuing for a while. and they have since changed their mind and one of the groups we should add, that's most affected is a presidential candidate including as you all know, a group of senators who now are going to have a real

hard time getting their own policy messages heard the way they would and some of them, though senators, if the timing works out the way it probably will, will be stuck in washington acting as jurors as an impeachment trial in the months and weeks before the iowa caucuses the third of february in the new hampshire primary on the 11th of february. and who since the time if not, that would be mitch mcconnell. that would be the majority leader of the senate, mitch mcconnell would take the lead in setting the ground rules for the impeachment trial. >> could you imagine if he could potentially do it in early february? >> yes, i think he would not wait to do it in early february, i think if the house were to produce articles of impeachment by the end of this year, my guess is that he would try and

take this up and dispose of it as quickly as he possibly could and there would be the same deliberations i have been 20 years ago between the republicans and the democrats in the ground rules for the trial, the ground rules change from time to time, obviously the clinton trial was the firsttr trial in the 1860s because there was no nixon trial, he did resigned before he was impeached by the house. so they would need to negotiate the terms of the trial and the democrats will want presumably to have a full opportunity to present their cases soon as possible and the republicans would want to get it over as soon as possible. but either way that is crucial iowa caucus in new hampshire primary. >> why are people who defined subpoenas being fined or jailed? >> that's a great question that's a long and cumbersome process and the ability to enforce is difficult into

shorthanded somewhat. it is tough for the house of representatives does not really have much of a law enforcement, they never really put the capital police to work, going out and arresting people and even if they did, it's a little bit difficult to combine those areas. in the capital playstation i'm aware of. >> let'som go to kingwood texas. good morning. >> good morning gentlemen, i'm a conservative calling in on the republican line but i think there is some sunshine here, light at the end ofan the tunne, i totally agree with elijah cummings and i agree with what you showed that nancy pelosi n said. i think there's a lot bigger and better things the country should be doing right now. i think you've shown your

evidence, i think you do try to be a little more balanced then certainly a lot of people that come on television and i appreciate that. i think that's a good thing to have happen. i do want to challenge you, i don't want to say you're wrong but i want to say something where you said, all presidents get challenged by the press.ev i don't believe that is the case necessarily for donald trump, i believe there's probably hard evidence to show that the majority of the mainstream media brutalize this guy, they don't just go after policy or they don't go after certain issues, they'll go after whether or not he tied his shoes, whether he said something about on a sports event or whatever. it is brutal. in the majority of the mainstream media with the new york times, the washington post, most of your abc, cbs, they

literally lean left and cnn produces only left material, msnbc only left material in new york times is similar. i take issue, i think this president never from the main publishers other than fox and wall street journal are tortured. i'd like to hear your opinion, i think you been fair and honest. what you really think cheerfully about mainstream media. >> bob, thank you. hiank you for sizing me up who tries to be fair. i would say this, the president has -- because of his weight communicating and we c mentioned before the fascinating aggregation in the new york times of all t his tweets, his decision to communicate the way he has using twitter and her comment on somebody aspects of the culture and as you say

sports, colin kaepernick, the oscars, he has waiting on a lot of issuesas besides politics and that is fair game. the white house said early on we should view his twitter feed as official statements of a ministration policies so those of us in the media have so i think in that sense, we have been fair to pursue his tweeting as a part of his presidency. another thing, you make the point about the networks, the other side would say, that donald trump is only president because the same networks gave him so much unfiltered airtime during the campaign. that he made for great colors, he was entertaining, he got ratings. he dry balls in advertising revenue in the mainstream made a lot of money by airing him as much as they did.

>> another comment from one of our viewers with this on her twitter page, the whistleblower tis less important than someone who is actually on the call, the people on the call will not show up except for colonel. the gop has been attacking with a bigoted attack on nationality in my humble opinion this shows they are afraid of the truth. >> you are right, so far colonel has been the only one on the call was testified, i think there's a couple other people who are supposed to appear this week and they were on the call, it has been fascinating for me, i figured colonel showing up with his purple heart and his uniform would've been insulated from the attacks he has faced. so this goes back that polarization is really intense

and things would've fought under former time and we all would've predicted him to get knocked down the after day. >> mike pompeo was also on the call to testify. >> they could subpoena him and make a big deal him. the house has not really ever prove that they can actually not in modern times that they can actually physically get somebody into a witness chair who does not want to shop. >> annexed caller from maryland, democrat line. good morning. >> good morning. >> you are on there please go ahead. >> i am a democrat i have been one all my life but i would like to go back to president roosevelt, i am 90 years old and

now he's flying food to the hungry. he was for people not himself. and then look at this president today, he is more for self, he has a daughter in the white house as his advisor. did she know anything about the government because his deal with russia -- russia is american enemy. we bullies know not. and why would he bring it into. the white house to another president i've never seen do that. >> thank you for the call. >> you are right in your memory is wonderfully long and rich in the closest comparison that most people would make as president kennedy's decision to make his younger brother the attorney general that would be the closest example. there were lots of debates among lawyers about whether the president would be allowed to do

this, again it's a decision of his to do this -- he is clearly got away and doing it, along the trump injured kushner working in the white house everyday. he was able to do that with minimal criticism and it was probably something that emboldened him to take more bolder actions to define norms along the way. >> the president has quoted fox and friends on twitter this morning in about a minute ago, three words, read the transcript. tell us. did want to respond? >> it is not a transcript. one caller said is not a transcript, and is labeled as such. what were talking about, the transcript of the ukraine call,

the joint 25th call. they are very, very detailed notes there has been further reporting and there are words that were taken out and it's not a verbatim transcript. one thing you can actually do a simple math under calculator into the number ofmb words spok, the number of words in the transcript are not nearly as many words as you would have as a president has had another calls per minute that have been transferred to made. there are words missing from that. and i think the president has a fascinating strategy to read the transcript, and to call it perfect, that's his line, is it a perfect call. i don't pay any attention to what the other people are saying, it exposes him as doing improper things. >> aligned for republicans from new jersey. thank you for winning.

>> hi, good morning. thank you. i do agree that i see a need for congress for both the house of representatives and the senate. keep them on focus of the agenda and not on security. i think that's why were seen a political divide. they're protecting the president who can run the career who does not support him. >> thank you philip. >> thank you. as i said before this comes up almost every time that i'm on and it's something that i've thought about a lot probably because i'm an exception that proves the rule and reporters, most of the people who reported with me when i first started coming along on. the house aref

around for the clinton impeachment and only 15 of the senators who were jurors and members of the senate during the clinton impeachment trial, only 15 are still in office and that's only 21 years ago. so to me that's a pretty strong evidence that the system of government of governing and elections ofti potable ambition and buyers remorse politician who get the congress, that all is working pretty well. it is the case -- it is proved that the republican leader in chuck schumer are two of the 15 and interestingly there's only one republican left who voted to acquit bill clinton who is still in office and who will be paying close attention there. >> this is from ilan burke with his tweet, over the humor read the sharply edited transcript. [laughter]

>> will go to gwen and lancaster, california, also on a republican line. >> in mourning. were watching through the meal under mueller grou probe. we watched james clapper and susan gps and brandon try to get trump impeached through the mueller trap. it's all reverse psychology. we watched joe biden, hunter biden billions of dollars from china and ukraine, we watched this press which are part of, white watch everything and go after trump for doing his job. we have it treaty with ukraine to go after the corruption, our taxpayer dollars that don't matter to the press, they just

want a story so they can make money off the backs of the people. >> will get a response out of that, the mueller report we get that a lot. >> subsequence point, i'll just address your last point, which is, the trump presidency has been a boon totr the press, as i said before it has been the trump candidacy helped boost revenue and readings for the tv cable news networks, subscriptions to news organizations i think you probably cannot stand for the new york times and the washington postke are searching, there has been a rise in conservative media outlets, so this presidency has been plenty

to cover, he's given us plenty to cover so it's not that we need to fabricate things to make money. >> robert is joining us on a line forer democrats. >> good morning how are you doing today. >> thank you for waiting. go ahead. >> republicans wanted this process that was put up and responded up and we held the houseboat and now there's a couple of other things that we need to get processed before we start the public vote or the public hearing and republicans aren't letting us do our job. i was just wondering, why do you think that is, why don't you think republicans are letting us do our jobs? >> thank yous robert. >> impeachment or not, this is still a divided government.

the democrats around the house, they control, their majority power, there is still the case that the republicans control the senate, there's still a filibuster on legislation, there's not a filibuster anymore on judicial nominations that were executive branch nominations is why the senate it spending so much time moving the judicial nomination and really a record clip, the president trump is a say impeachment or not, he is delivering for the conservatives who voted for him in a very big way by his judicial pics on the court, on the courts of appeals with a dozen courts by the end of this week, he will have a quarter of the seats so that is happening. but the democrats can only do so much.

and they are, to be honest the democrats are not -- have not made too much of the majority power to advance legislation although much. >> what to expect this week? >> i think the big story this week will be the release of thei transcript, what we've seen so far, the members have come out -- what we've heard from roat's happened behind closed doors so far has been from the members themselves and they say, there's a lot more out there that we can say. >> people can follow you on twitter are guesses at her and chief of the fulcrum. thank you for being with the spring. >> thank you a much. >> c-span "washington journal" live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. coming up thursday morning, the impeachment inquiry and next week first public hearing will discuss the senior fellow with the institute governance

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