tv BBC Election Night Coverage CSPAN December 12, 2019 11:12pm-1:03am EST
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inside of the european union was to remain in the united kingdom. it didn't quite work out that way and now they are voting on a second referendum because of a material change. scotland isn't about to leave the eu so why should you deny them a second referendum? >> it was made very clear at the time of the independence referendum. you cannot have a standoff and simply say you cannot have another vote. >> as prime minister, i've spent
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quite a time in the house of commons being question in that they had one issue only into this about independence it's where they are in government. the education system has deteriorated. they have problems with their national health service and i think it is time they focus on the day-to-day issues and the job of governing in scotland and to stop simply putting the single issue of independence forward. >> we will leave it there. thank you for joining us. returned with a reduced majority. let's come back to my guests that have come back to you on the remaining theme. the party of the liberal the lis are getting nowhere overall. the leader just lost his seat and there will be no people's
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vote. people voting for a referendum, they've given the government is campaigned exclusively on the huge majority. what else do you need? >> the mission of the british people he held a general election and got the opportunity to meet a. >> you lose, you lose what you say he hasn't really got a mandate to do this. >> he's trying to fulfill a no
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one is pretending that this is a good night for campaign for the finacampaigned forthe final say. >> there won't be a people's vote. one of the big questions you could ask about in the campaign is why they decided to disable the most successful and biggest peoples vote campaign on the date of election was called. >> there's a lot of constituencies to give them hope
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and make sure they are not left behind anymore there will be a terrible reckoning and we must rise to the challenge. we sold them recently elected on the votes of the traditional labour parts of queensland. labor parts of queensland. in pennsylvania and america. what will you be telling mr. johnson he needs to do to fulfill, what does he need to do to fulfill? >> they are building on what they specifically said. whether there's room for the tax cuts out on the higher income
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thresholds. it means infrastructure investment. we have a terrible weakness and division and infrastructure quality in the uk at the moment. >> what you think a print mr. understands that? >> the commitment has shown that and yesterday now people never voted conservative before voted conservative. >> i think that is a good thing for our politics we've had a long time when all the competition was for those in the middle-class britain. now there's a real competition for civility in the uk politics for the votes of the working class people. they will only ever get back into power if they start reclaiming. they will only now maintain power if they keep. and that is a good kind of competition to have in the electoral politics that we haven't had before. >> once wrote in the times --
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the constituency turnout with 73.56%. i decry carolina's duly elected as a member of parliament. >> elected with a big majority. let's see what she has to say. >> all of the candidates to the returning officer, to the staff here this evening and of course to my amazing team that worked on the green party campaign, thank you from the bottom of my heart. in particular, my agent, campaign manager matt and paul and cass miller for everything. a sincere and heartfelt thanks to the people of the brighton pavilion that have once again granted me the honor of representing them in parliament. i've been incredibly proud of that the majority has increasedd a hundred and 57% now because
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they continue to believe in compassion and justice and a bigger future. but the pride i feel is also the future sadness sadness that so many people that desperately need a progressive governments on their side. it shouldn't have to happen. it was on the brink of supporting the people's vote on brexit and two out of the three proudly voted against it and learned about the danger that it would bring. [applause] that is what i feel will happen.
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this brings me to the anger that i feel that our political system is so badly broken and it's still letting down individuals into the country so badly. our electoral system has a call. [applause] as i travel around the country, i've met so many people who wanted to vote green but they couldn't bear to do so for the fear of splitting the vote. [applause] if you look at where the vote is
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right now, those parties supporting the people's vote campaign have gotten over 50% of the results. let's not forget that tonight, my friends. [applause] but instead they are ignoring their voices -- about the fact that lots of people would be unrepresented and those who need protection in the years ahead and the result of course we are looking at a fairly solid conservative majority at the end of this. 500 results all ready 23 minutes past four, 150 to go.
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the lowest turnout with 58%. 6.9% from labor to conservative aninterfaces between 2010 and 2017. this has been labor since its creation in 1950 so yet another seat with a strong labour heritage and background which has turned to night to the conservative. >> it's the kind of thing we would have expected from the beginning of the homecoming but it just underlines again how much the roots seem to have done away whether it is for good or resuscitated.
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they are also taking back kensington and if you like, you can sum up the extent of this conservative victory. back in 2017 this is the seat that includes the tower and there've been huge political controversy after the tragedy that conservatives are back this is the seat once represented but it's now gone back to the tories very close the majority of 150. the turnout of 58% and if we
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look at the change in the share of the vote is down. this is something we've seen again. kensington of course being an area of very hig high remain supporting voters, 68% in the referendum backing 2017. so a small swing from the tories but just enough for them to take it back. they have hung on despite the challenge they were pulling the effort of energy into there because of the former conservative minister who was fighting the seat on behalf of them and that is to the wider thing in places where people think the perspective is that
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independents standing and not sofar successful. >> good morning and thanks very much for joining us. tell us what went wrong from your perspective. >> there are two fronts. one was the fact so many could not and do not want to support jeremy corbin to be feminist or a it wasn't the promise we made in the general election. they have come up time and time
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again. >> remained to oversee the period of reflection and to see how the party goes forward. what would your message be? they have to have a party reflection. the problem for the labour party is that this is the for the general election we have lost in a row, neither in 2015 or 2017. so our party is very good at having reviews and they end up being a bit of a whitewash and then we are in the leadership context. i think that he has to recognize it isn't just about him per se, it's about the politics that he espouses, the nature of the political debate that he has
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encouraged and to be quite frank i haven't seen such sectarianism i joined the labour party back in 79 that erupted in the 80s. it is quite clear the project wasn't a project after the election. there are those that have driven us into a dead end regarding brexit and it's at the expense of the working class heartland and i feel very annoyed t annoyy the least about that. >> what is your plan from now on
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a. everyone taking a break and having a proper reflection i would take my own advice. i've been in the labour party for 40 years and i owe so much to it but i also owe so much to the people in the valley that have done nothing but treat me with kindness and they have been wonderful to me. enjoy the cup of tea. thank you for joining us. >> what i would like to do now is take a view outside because we have a map of the uk and it's been basically changing color and changing shape. we have our figures there as you
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can see they are all projecting the majority for boris johnson and they tell their own story but just to the right shots tonight over the map might look like when we came on air. now we've been relaying the map but you look at how dramatically different it already is looking. one place that is pretty much unchanged at the moment is here. it's very much looking like an island of red.
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i think they really misjudged brexit around the country and as you can see they've really just only broken through in london. >> and you are a liberal democrat. [inaudible] i think what it came down to was the leadership the personalities [inaudible] to take you across england in the northeastern wales. it's really frightening just how much has changed. we were talking earlier and if
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away [inaudible] >> in another big change as well this is very much like it was in 2015 and we watched scotland going yellow. that is happening all over again losing the seat with a big sto story. door reaction to the results tonight? >> scotland votes one wa both od england votes another. that isn't what we want. we want independence, less offensive government and we want to be in the eu. if it means anything, it must. this is changing shape in front of our eyes.
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there was a notable contribution earlier now proving they are the party of the working class given the inroads they've made to these areas. what would be the response to that? >> there is a small term working class it's brought forth for the purpose of parties. i think one of the most interesting things as the results come through is that yes it's been a terrible night for the labour but it's kind of decapitated. the politics was broken and it's
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gone. at the end of this section of the evening is 20-5 in the morning. we've had 540 results, 110 to go so we are well on the way towards the finishing line looking at a majority which is less than we said earlier but it's still a pretty hefty majority. would you expect to happen now say in the next week? will we get the withdrawal bill, what do you expect? >> possibly a clean speech. the interesting question is are they lending to the conservative party just to get brexit done.
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people say we still think they are tories but we want to get it done. we think that he is demanded of it but once it is done w that il go back to the facilities. >> can he persuade them he really is and also can labour move on i think some of the messages have been coming out blaming only brexit there is a failure to recognize the hard left in the party has revealed a. >> for many months now, it's been less and includes people like me and includes people who
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are economic nationalists. very little of this. the party needs to be held together and if i had written an interesting blog this morning saying before i think about people, i want them to understand what went wrong and then would have been a potential [inaudible] i'm not sure she's particularly favored a. >> we will see what happens.
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>> how it panned out and what the response would be. from the last election they were feeling confident enough to get this seat but an hour and a half ago there was a recount and it's important because they were holding up in london but that didn't happen in the seat and i think that you can look at it and say this is a big failure of the remaining ally and because
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this was a massive remaining seat. there was a high profile who defected from the party and stowed in the seat and that remained split. there was a number of labor activists shouting and heckling because the seed has gone to the tories, so i think a failure of the remaining alliance here is taking the seat by just 150 votes after the first recount. you remember it is the seat that unfortunately the tragedy happened in an then and they wee criticized at times. they have taken a seat.
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that the liberal democrats were hoping to win back during this election. that didn't happen before the votes came in. obviously the much bigger story in manchester and in places like the town that has been for 100 years in places like heywood and middleton that are unimaginably conservative before this election but obviously places where the message is clear there is no regret how they voted. it's a shock since many of them for the first time in the history.
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>> we've had a bit of a debate as you could imagine certainly among the figures as well whether this is all about brexit, anger about the failure to deliver it or about the dislike of jeremy corbin. >> i think i've said throughout the camp pain that people haven't necessarily voted for who they like the most. it's who they dislike the least. let's talk about some of those conservative games and let's crossover the newsroom and go straight to the results center with some of the latest
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conservative games. >> to expand, it is a staggering gain we are seeing here, things you never thought would go conservative when there was a 25,040 and it's been labor since the war that's gone blue. east was tom watson's old seat and that is now conservative, northwest where she lost her seat she was a rising star in the labour party some thought she might take over as the deputy leader. ashfield overspending them for labor and office manager defected for the conservatives and he's not just lost the seat but he's lost his deposit and
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let's go to great grimsby and have a look at what happened. let's take a look at the change in the share of the vote from 2017 labour plummeting 17 points. the conservatives up and brexit pretty taking 7% of the share and that is the enormous swing 15 points and great grimsby. those are some of the extraordinary results that we see and that is the scoreboard as it stands now with 562, so well on the way to getting most of the seats declared and you can see a very handsome 41 games. at the office of losing 50. a strong night, quite the
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opposite also making two losses. >> what i want to do now is take a look. it's been taken by the majority of 14,000 desist of the 64%. they take more than half of the votes cast so look at this, 55% to 28% labor. 11% to 77% and if we look at the change we see that they added a 12 percentage points to their share down a huge 25% on their own votes last time.
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household said we are not voting for corbin. it was just unambiguous and what about. that is because of the message to get it on. >> when you think of boris johnson and what it represents in the background and all the rest of it, these are people in the past that he would never have imagined would actually be in position to offer their the r support to a conservative leader like him.
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narrative that he's coming up with for the whole of the country north, south, labour seat but it would be interesting to see how he sees that. that would be all. on the domestic front it would be in january and then the next would be january. i could imagine that would be extended because i don't know how he will get to that deadline. but the parliament. >> what i would like to do now is get a little more analysis on where we are with just 72 seats to go and they are getting ever closer to that mark.
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let's join jeremy again in the house of commons. >> just updating the forecast to you and we started tonight with the pole and we've got results now we are bringing them in. the overall majority comes where you get 306 in the house of commons. let's see what we are predicting now. we think we will end with 362 conservatives. a good, firm, solid, accountable majority. but let's have a look at contrast at labour. we don't think they will get about 200 seats. we have 199 historically awful results and by contrast doing brilliantly 52 down a little bit from the original forecast.
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green is on one and we saw caroline back in the house of commons and the other means a majority for the conservatives of 74 which will give boris johnson the ability to work unfettered as the leader of the party which of course teresa made it not have. let me show you where we are actively look at the share of the vote in great britain we have the three parties contesting 45% conservative is a historically high figure. it's a very impressive figure when you consider that even in 99 she wasn't quite at 45%. in fact you've got to go back to 1970 to see the conservatives performing that well. 43% for labor. we are losing votes by the thousands in all the most
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critical areas indicate and 12% and 70. the system doesn't work very well for them not really moving since the last election. green party about 3%, brexit about 2%. that share its historthe share r boris johnson. >> thanks very much again. 317 and very close to the three to six mark where we will declare that they've won this election and are well on their way to the majority as jeremy was saying with dozens of seats which is a different world to be. >> president trump has said it looks like boris johnson is going to win big in the uk. it's good that the white house has finally caught up with the full.
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with a much reduced majority here, your majority has been slashed from your party lost the north. did you lose because of brexit or mr. corbin? >> there are a mixture of things involved a and particularly for all of the people that depended on a stronger party. obviously brexit was a key issue in the campaign and there are perceptions in the party and leadership that were an issue as well. >> what do you mean by perception of the leadership? >> we would get people talking
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left labor to campaign. >> and the turn out to be high again. >> it is six minutes past 5:00 a.m. and we are nowhere in a position to say this election of 2019 formally has been won by the conservatives 326 on the finishing line so then they will proceed with a bigger majority but we can now say based on the results, 598 seats and 51 to go they are past the finishing line and they have formally won this election.
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>> it's a huge moment. an enormous moment for the conservative party and then when he threw some people out of the party they had that come to jesus agony having to rely on the other party and before that cameron with a very rocky time and a big victory for him at the time this means more than anything else. that something very strange happens to leave the european union next month and that answers the biggest question asked for the last two and half years what happened in 2016 happen or not? that is a question that has paralyzed parliament and therefore we did not agree the public is answer that question
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tonight and that's what the prime minister will do. and then to pursue other projects. >> let's have a look at the palace of westminster were all of the activity will be on the next few days and we are projecting the results on the banks of the river and there we have it so far the conservatives now about 331 with labor 397. and the numbers are going up and the numbers are going up with that majority that we were told about a short while ago someone election 2019 is
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that the conservatives are past the finishing posts they have won the majority and that is the result toward it - - a much bigger majority. may have been joined by the former director of communications welcome to use. >> good morning. >> what do you make of this result and tell us what you think it signifies in terms of the political landscape. >> it feels like great britain has been reshaped it is amazing victory for boris johnson not just the labour party that tension will be played out in the coming years and it will be a fascinating battle to watch. talking earlier she was very
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clear and then vigorously with the referendum saying that they are dead set against it that is a class waiting to happen. >> and a number of options and continues as the energy builds up. maybe even trying for the illegal referendum but that tension would be absolutely hug huge. >> if you look at those massive inroads what do you make of the strategy now that it seems to be a far more powerful clarion cal call.
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>> and what boris johnson has managed to do and traditional labor forwarders and not see - - voters and that's the slogan none of those opposition campaigns came up with all the shenanigans that had gone on and the labour party will have to look very deep. >> and with downing street what do you expect in the next week or so? >> that is possible as you will see he will run for hell like the center. the reality is and then to
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brand himself as a one nation conservative. it will be interesting how he does that but he is ample position and is extraordinary power so how will you use that power? does he reject the ideology that would be fascinating i hope he does send a strong signal that they are out. >> and one thought that boris johnson dismissed as a member and all the rest of it but now
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the basis of this result is what margaret thatcher was getting and the political profile and authority and the status. >> what happens with elections everything is washed away for a period of time now he is at the pinnacle of his power. he could do enormous things in terms of legislation and his cabinet i would be advising him to really take hold of that and to push aside to make thank you for now. yes the road to downing street so tell us about it. >> looking at how they did it
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326 and going through door number ten as boris johnson to show you all the constituencies we have. and we will see what crosses the line. the beast of both who lead the commons and his seat got them over so let's just move on so that's where they are at the moment let's have a look at labor now. boy oh boy each has a seat in
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the house of commons these are the results 199 and will go to the end of the line. but some of these are marginal's but they were safe before. so labor back there now looking at the end of the conservative line. so bring in the extra conservative seats and delay them down. but calling them the conservative we will see what happens in the next few hours.
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and the conservative mp buckingham with the bigger seat you have cold valley that is a gain for labor which we can't be certain but it looks like that will be a conservative gain as well and shelton as well to be the conservative taking the lead from democrats. that's how they did it to cross the line and got to the number 326. >> thank you for underlying the fact that it is no means that skinner is no longer in the house of commons and then the house would have succeeded but now the follower was will be conservative as the new
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senior member of the house of commons. you see dennis skinner just pushed into second place just the former mining areas - - areas since its creation in 1950 and then back in 1970 but then he has been defeated. >> and the change and in that part of the country and then to say to us on the campaign they hear from jeremy corbett again and again and all the
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the labour party. the s&p we think about 349 and what we think is the projection of the brexit party and we heard from caroline earlier. that is where we are election 2019. straight into our news from here. >> good morning with the conservatives have passed the finish line with a substantial majority the biggest win since 1987.
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that boris chilson has held his peace jessica parker has the latest. >> the prime minister will likely have a smile today to call a working majority. >> it gives us now to respect the democratic rule for the british people to unleash the potential of the people of this country. >> that the brexit policy on
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>> for millions of people these results will bring dismay and read as people are looking for help. >> boris johnson is cleared to drive the agenda to steer the country to its next gender one - - destination. >> overall they are expected to announce 50 seats in scotland. and then a second referendum during that campaign so for the democratic unionist party. westminster johnson took his
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dog with him to the polling station here he is just before he enjoys all the intention pretty well. you can get more information on nine for all the latest results as they come in with real-time analysis from the experts. that is it for me that's election 2019. >> welcome back to the bbc election we are declaring victory for the conservatives in this election campaign and this contest and that they can form a majority of 338 to but
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this is the projected final score and of those seats just to come in on labor 203 that is the projection of what the s&p looks like. >> it looks like a strong night and with the reporting from a little bit earlier now falling to the smp candidates and defeat it is interesting because in fact he has made
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those anti-semitic comments and his name was on the ballot paper so we'll have to see what happens there. going from labor to the smp. that is jim murphy seat of those conservative seats in 2017 so if we just take a quex look at the scotland scoreboard you will see them in a very strong position. >> thank you very much. looking at the victory in
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scotland gas knows all about the. >> indeed the tories will get between 45 and 46 percent of the vote but conservatives are doing badly so in england it's higher than 45 percent for those to get a share of the vote which brings us to jim murphy of the scottish labour party. >> a disastrous night for the scottish labor parties. >> this is the fourth successful one - - successive defeat i still feel as angry now this is a campaign with
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the majority other than tony blair and what the working class people want and respect but also all you have to do is patronize working-class people and his old saying of socialism everything was a priority and somebody else to pay for and the working clas class. >> and they started was seven labor mp now they are down to one. that is it is that mister corbin's fault quex. >> scotland debate is into camps people that voted yes
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for the referendum and those that voted no but the labour party is in either camp. >> we have pretended and then to send confuse signals that we would stand in the way that is a remarkable achievement in scotland or england with nationalism politics has to be open and immigration is a good thing for our economy and culture. >> it was pretending to agree. >> but the real story of tonight is conservatives that the smp have swept and
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demanding a second referendum of scottish influence they will have a huge majority but what should they do cracks should they deny a second referendum and they vote for the parties quex. >> these elections you cannot call them within a few hours to matter what boris johnson will do. >> when i was in scotland through the general election campaign it was remarkable. >> i know you're from paisley but i don't know. >> answer the question. >> i don't know but in scotland the smp did not ask for the mandate.
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25,000 the number of votes for brexithe brexit was 141. i hereby declare luke pollard is reelected. >> rebecca smith for the tories in the second place had been the former conservative and now directs the debate of brexit party in the workplace to the 39% to labor delete the labour and this is a 2017 gain from the
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conservatives so an interesting result. one of the seats where nick used to be the mp that's declared earlier. tell us what happened. >> it was a dramatic end to what has been a significant day and i have to say the result was a good one for the labour party and very disappointing from the liberal democrats in the end of the votes that separated the two
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even worse than they did in 1983 so let's have your first thought is that a leadership issue or a policy issue. if was talking to a part of the labour party talking to the community ultimately if you are the main opposition party you only make progress if you have an argument about what the future will look like this convinces the public and what we have here is a situation we not only lost all of the traditional conservative but we also lost support in the midlands and the northeast and northwest and that was because just as in scotland in 2015 they said you are offering us nothing and you
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don't connect with us anymore. for us the big question is what do we do to start having a conversation again both with the people in the marginals but the floating voter that could be one or the other but also if we don't do it quickly it will be too late to put it together again. jeremy has many characteristics that demand respect. we've got to have somebody that doesn't just talk to won eight of us bueighthof us but talks t. he was given the impression he wanted to hang around a bit and to map the way forward such time
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i would have in mind by march or april of next year. this isn't normal for the whole myriad of reasons but one of them as we are in the middle of the european process we are definitely leaving now but immediately afterwards we are going to be debating the relationship. are we going to pivot toward the usa and leave a close alliance with europe or are we staying trading we have to be a party are giving that up with a leader that is speaking for our party
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on the government basis. we thought to have a leadership election as soon as we can. the majority of 60 or more so you may well have that, but whatever he decides will be what happens. >> he certainly has the votes in the commons to do whatever he likes now and the only way you can prevent it is by an argument debate with the public that this for example they are a close ally that we want to remain very close to europe as well.
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where you look in areas you have pockets of support where people wanted an alternative, a realistic chance of winning what went wrong they are? we made an agreement there's been success but i think it would have been much better if we could'v could have talked wie labour party as well. the tea party system but we could have done something today. they've had a very good night in our own terms we are saving deposits and had good swings where we focus our efforts. this is good and bodes well but overall they are facing a pretty great future.
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we have very little scrutiny. we are not going to see brexit done. that was a lie. we can set up the facts now. we will go into a transition period with a deadline to sort out the agreement. it will be really hard for this country and those in opposition still have work to do and it would be good if we could work together to. basically making the point on the electoral system but it wasn't delivering for people.
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asking people to confront choices in their daily lives. >> investing and creating jobs all these ideas we want to talk about and the other party did respond and make extra promises. let's hold them to that and work hard to show the people default ignored around the country that want investment it's the best investment you can make.
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>> getting your understanding of the party, who was the leader they would most fear than, who was present more of a threat? >> iof the labour party was to become a think it would front-end the parliament. >> somebody in the metropolitan believmetropolitanbelieve that t being very articulate and thoughtful. i don't think that he has the charisma to reach out to the rest of the country. i think that they would be secretly smiling. >> i think that we could see how the two candidates i mentioned
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also a serious player in relation to all of this and see how they do. the key thing they've got to be able to do is convince the public that they understand the issues and understand the public. because that is what went wrong this time. >> jeremy is on the line for us the extent of the troubles overnight. >> i want to bring some history on this as the left to do to look back and see if we can find an election where this kind of thing happened to the labour party. now, we are looking in our virtual house of commons and let me just show you this the result of the projection of the for 2019 which is the labour that won the 203 seats in the house of commons and of course people say that it's historically terrible and bad and awful but how bad is that if we make comparisons? first to say 2621 the advance of
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the previous one where ed miller band was the leader and the one before that was gordon brown. so, 232 in 2015 and labor 258 under gordon brown in 2010. so those two actually in 2017 and proved on both of them but the thing that was different was gordon brown has the scottish seat. they came in, his own seat and by that phase we haven't had that great of a revival. ed miller band didn't hav didn'. let's try to search now for a figure as low as the one mr. corbin has done tonight. if we go back 1992, lost against john major even than 271. okay he was banking all those seats but still a long way ahead. 87, under the alternate again, 229 seats so a very low figure
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but still nowhere near as well as mr. corbin has been tonight. let's have a look at michael foot in 1983 on 209. pretty much the result we look liklike we're getting tonight fm jeremy corbin. this was resulted as a dreadful election as a way it ushered in tony blair in the manifesto that was famously district i descripe longest suicide in history, while they've done it again this is the same kind of defeat in fact you have to go back to 1935 to find the worst one. later there was the great year after the war of prime minister but then the whole match up with mcdonald and everything was leaving the building into the parking was on its knees. they made some progress but we had to go back to 1935 and he was a caretaker leader with 154 seats that's how bad this is. when you look at this result
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this will stand out for years and years and years as 2019 result was to bring it up here. all these years this is a really, really, if we are, just bring on the last one there if we can. 2019, there it is, 203. if that's where they are, it's almost the worst in the century. it's pretty much the worst they've done since the very start of the party. >> that's something to think about. thank you very much with the historical perspective. i just want to pause for a second to give full credit to someone who's going to join us now for the third or fourth time during the night. and that is sir john curtis with this marvelous team of analysts who've been with very hard because john of course has a key role in fashioning the results.
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it was 368, the original estimate and we are now looking at 364. i want to say on behalf of the team, brilliantly played by you again, so well done. tell us where you think it is now heading in terms of the performance that is to go to at the moment. >> it might end up at about 203 and figure nothing to get past 209 to the guardian and i have to say however is the team sitting next to me here that are the champions. they've done a brilliant job actually analyzing about turning. they collected data and are not interviewers that braved the december weather.com to collect the data without which none of us will be able to do anything at all. to go back to the labour party, there is a striking contrast between the longest time and the
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one in 83 and perhaps one were to believe this is a more serious defeat. back in 1983 by the way was enabled in 1983 to defend itself against it was no more than 20% share of the vote was that it held onto its traditional areas of strength. it did relatively well in the north of england and midland. it did relatively well in the working-class parts of the country. the striking thing about this is that the way in which if performed worse in the north of england in the midlands and working-class seats. now that's not just simply to do with brexit but it's certainly in part. the continuation of the pattern in the 2017 the election there was a lot of speculation during the campaign surely, surely the voters of the working could possibly come elect a conservative not noticing the
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reason why the seats were now marshall does that in 2017 they had already swung pretty dramatically to the conservatives. but to that extent a at least wt has happened tonight should be seen as part two of a two-part story. first was achieved under theresa may so not quite enough to have a victory. the boris johnson today however has been able to turn that legacy into a valuable currency that enabled him to get this substantial authority the conservatives best resort in 1987 and i think the best performance in terms of the votes as margaret thatcher.
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for those people wondering what the size of the majority will be we were saying possibly 86 at the start of the night and we are now saying what, 78? >> remember when you talk about the majority of you just get one thing wrong in the forecast that is going to change the majority by two, so the metric we will give you is this we forecast 368 conservative seats and we've ended up with 364 so the actual it seems if things pan out now as we expect on the conservative performance that is four seats which is exactly the same as it was in 2017. >> i think you should be ashamed of yourself, four seats out. what is the world coming to. [laughter] those poor people who have been able to go to bed at 11:00 last night facing the noise they knew that he one would give the country a service.
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>> thanks to you and your team we will talk to you a bit later. working his magic yet again on the pole and getting it on target we are looking at the majority for the conservatives coming out of the election which is remarkable and we will be leaving this relatively shortly. and just wondering some concluding thoughts before you go back to westminster reporting on the days events and some will be talking again at 10:00 tonight. >> 84 then. i think it is expected to happen in westminster where is where i'm going to head off so i will talk to you then. if you get the chance to talk to the prime minister later about what's been going on and the fact that he's now sitting on a pretty solid majority, what will you ask about the policies in the next few weeks? >> the next few weeks, without
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any doubt of the first thing that the ministe minister is goo try to do is have a speech to bring back the bill for its first reading. i think that is going to happen on friday. at this point i think if this is is something to clarify with them, but i think they will probably let westminster have a bit of a breather. the acknowledgment across the politics is pretty exhausted and fractured people have been angry and exhausted and just kind of burned out by everything that's happened and i think what they will do is take a pause, come back in january, pushed through the rest of the legislation as quickly as they can and then after that i think there will be a big reset and that that point
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he will show what he always wanted it to be and he has been known famously around the country more than a decade for being desperate to be the prettiesprintmr. even if peoplee what he wanted to do with the job we know he wants to do it and in the next few months you could expect that would be revealed to us all that he's also somebody that decides as much as he delights. he's very divisive controversial figure but he's also made a career of doing things people have told him were impossible. he was told that it would be impossible to tie among them blue and then he won the seat twice and he was told you can't win the eu referendum and then as brexit spain cheerleader he did. then he was told he couldn't be the conservative leader because he messed up as the foreign secretary and again against
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those results, he did and he was told you can't turn places like darlington blue and look at what has happened tonight so maybe he's lucky or maybe he and his team had a strategy they have ay believed in all along. they were nervous the last few days but it has been a historic victory for a man that has wanted the job so long let's see what he does with it. >> we will talk later then. maybe you will pop up somewhere not far from westminster. let's join with some guests. >> lara parker you said tonight it's unquestionable that the policies are popular. it's the worst since 1935. what is popular about that?
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>> brexit may explain why he lost that it doesn' but it doesy your 160 seats behind the conservative. >> i think it does explain. you look at the public ownersh ownership. >> but it's never an issue that gets people to vote. you were warned that this wasn't going to fly in 2019 that you carried on and just got over 200 seats. >> it's undoubtedly been a brexit. for whatever reason it hasn't come through. the party said quite rightly there has to be a period of reflection and we have to think
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about what didn't work. >> you were told by the party that he was not electable. >> it's a membership organization we've mobilized. >> who took control of the labour party and they are being thrashed as a disastrous experiment. >> it's a very serious result and what's worst about it is what this means now for the people of the country. >> the people in the country have spoken. >> i think they've spoken largely a brexit and let's hope that he will deliver although we still have the prospect of the no deal. >> that is another matter. you are sitting here tonight saying we are not just continuing is that your line?
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>> i believe that it was always about more than just jeremy corbin. it's a radical program for change and we need change in the country. >> no, i don't really know -- it is finished, irrelevant, gone. >> it's been a victory. let's just put it there. everyone thought that it was bad in a dustbin over. there was stagnation in a parliamentary system, there was the deal comin coming in actualn
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a brexit party had six weeks before the european elections which of course is far more favorable than any representation, we actually reset the agenda. if you look at the conservative party manifesto, it is always plagiarism of the brexit party. >> the johns and brexit agreement isn't even brexit. >> and i agree with that. i'm deeply concerned actually. a very strong majority in parliament, which boris johnson gets because in the beginning of his tenure should he says to the remaining side i'm not going to leave and he set a very different narrative. [inaudible] >> now he has the ability --
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hamburger labor had some significant losses the snp performing strongly in a relatively poor performance and that we had projected so a very good morning to you watching election 2019. conservative party leader boris johnson says of his party wins the majority he would get them to ratify the divorce deal taking uk ad of the european union by the current deadline january 31st.
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