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hotline to talk about the political implications of impeachment so talk about tone and did it change the tone of campaign 2020? >> and don't think it change the tone but it added a new vessel for the tone established. from the republican side that 2020 will be a referendum healthcare and socialism and democrat say it's a referendum on donald trump but that has not changed but now for republicans using socialist now they can also say we have already seen those congressional districts because the voters supported donald trump for anybody that impeached him.

>> they were true the vulnerable they were before impeachment they will be vulnerable after but that is a calculated risk to decide to support impeachment whether or not that changes their minds i think republicans see that donald trump support is so critical for officials it's hard to look at the i in general without supporting donald trump if you are a republican. the democrats are a little more foggy because in 2018 they did not embrace them that criticize him either. so they fulfill their vow to be impartial to stay away from the political fray or is this an example going along partisan lines.

>> are democrat spending enough money for how much are they spending to defend against those charges? >> most republican enthusiasm many is donald trump he is the best fundraiser for the republican party and the best enthusiasm. on the democratic side it's not as clear. the enthusiasm in the house stems from the house races even the democratic congressional committee is doing pretty well financially but outside groups especially republican are targeting the istricts in the way democrats have not totally responded to

it with their own efforts to combatli that money coming in it's also possible the overall voter mobilization efforts like georgia and texas could have the effect to combat some of that messaging and turning to the actual impeachment messaging republicans have a financial advantage. >> as part of that calculation to impose the two articles of impeachment. >> absolutely andut just elected 2018 was all long sought after democrat that they got him to run was a major victory and i think himm changing parties is a moral blow to democrats with

the house majority the calculation hasn't really changed for democrats we have internal polling to have a primary if he opposed impeachment and that's the biggest reason to switch parties but now has to run in the general election has already been attacked by republicans trying to connect him to socialism that he is against donald trump so whether or not that messaging is effective. >> here is the congressman in the white house yesterday with the president talking about explaining why he decided to switch parties. >> i guess what i say is is. believe it's just a better fit for me. it's uim, who i always was of more tolerance of the blue dog and conservative democrats and

i think that is going away. you have my undying support. foley. >> i am endorsing him. >> i cannot speak for these two gentlemen but i am endorsing him. thank you. and the last thing i will say one of my heroes the bipartisan war withh ronald reagan when he said i did not leave my party, my party left me. >> talk about the optics of that room and one day after the president he is impeached fihe has the congressman so now democrats have a no place for

the moderate voters so that's huge for republicans every democrat that runs for reelection in 2020 ran as moderates they oppose nancy pelosi as speaker to the left wing of the democratic party this is an example of a democrat to agree with that sentiment. that said is not necessarily representative of the democratic party but there's something to be said politicians who waiver they are making a big political gamble. but we see that over and over again if they switch sides or toe the line we have seen that west durnford - - west virginia even in the impeachment hearings voting present instead of picking aside sometimes it hurts more to waiver than just pick a side. >>host: getting your thoughts

on the political fallout. the president trump analysis after impeachment. >> the republican party has not ever been so affronted or knighted at one - - united is the are right now. ever. [applause] i know the senators. they are great guys great women and great people they love this country they will do the right thing. i said in my letter to pelosi , i love that. i said it for a long time democrats are lousy politicians horrible policies, crime is fine, open

borders, think of what they do sanctuary cities. [booing] they are lousy politicians but they are vicious they are the most vicious people republicans are not as vicious they may learn to be vicious going through this but the other things is that democrats always stickin together. three democrats came to our side zero republicans to their side. [cheers and applause] and by the way not just this little point in time the republican knows it's harder to stick together and we have a great republican party. giving his assessment.

>> that he is correcter they are not more united since he entered office but what he is not saying that democrats are also but at the last decade at this point with the increased polarization so republicans put on their jerseys democrats put on there's been some districts will help democrats it depends geographically or suburban or urban or rural. it's not a clear win for either side. i do think democrats have room to grow because trump is president. and that you're nothing more than a common enemy. but maybe democrats have

already reached their potential where they needed to united. >> let's get to our caller. >>caller: good morning i love the way you keep us reformed - - informed. talking about donald trump it's bad to see this man is sturdy. >> crooked that message obviously the democratic base that may resonate with them but what about the independence?

>> that's the question right now you have a country that donald trump can do nothing wrong among the democratic base and then there are the swing voters but what we sometimes forget is that elections are not decided by a national popular p vote but in michigan and wisconsine if they think if that's really enough is that enough to boot him out of office we will have a democratic president at some point for office is the alternative better than donald trump whether or not they personally like him. >> what does it mean national

ea base election as a headline after impeachment? it's the base that turns out that for districts and house seats and senate seats? bl that is why the houseus is nebulous and they need to pick up 20 seats which is the majority that there are base voters where we know republican cory gardner is up for real election and has always been able to win the democratic vote even make sally in arizona and north carolina especially in urban

areas with every 2019 special election and then prevent some republicans like susan collins to whether these political storms when the democratic base is so fired up. >> so explain for our viewers how many are up for reelection versus democrats? >> in 2018 democrats were on defense talking about reelection and a lot of those did lose half one reelection. this year is the opposite republicans are on defense there are only two republican

senators that represent states that hillary clinton one both of them are up for reelection republicans are also on defense and west carolina and arizona and iowa democrats need to defend michigan that could depend on the presidential outcome but also that democrats do have thevu most vulnerable area in alabama so taking that into account democrats need to pick up five seats in order to make up for the loss. >> and possible pick up with cory gardner maine and georgia the possibility texas will

enter i am skeptical but it's possible he talked to the strategist probably there will be a day where texas is competitive whether 2020 is to bebl c seen we saw that precursr from that o'rourke - - but to get to that extra 2 percente with $80 million is probably waiting for the state to change a little bit more now that he's not running for senate or president but with voter turnout in texas could affect the state house. >> back to calls florida independent line. >>caller: thank you for taking my calls. you are the best. just an observation the

democrats in the house have been a complete failure i just want to give you three examples. three weeks ago that democrats four freedoms rubberstamped the patriot act the democratic base voters have no idea they did that last week the democrats had $738 billion in the trump war budget and also homelessness that democratic base don't know that and the other point the only thing nancy pelosi was truly terrified of to have a nonbinding vote in the house for medicare for all. with that corporate leadership

would be all primary. >>. >> and what they support. >> and to point out some strong positions that crossed over and thehe reason there is so much big stuff going on that it gets lost book of course we're talking about the democratic primary and impeachment but also that these legislative that they are being overlooked on campaigning on the idea and

that you have heard that phrase in a million different democrats and then to hold donald trump account of all. and we saw that last night on the debate stage and these are divisions with a bigger goal in mind. >> that for the house and senate yesterday and with that ie.$4 trillion spending agreement there are things in that spending package that then the president who will sign it today but then the president signed at but if

this does go through or get past that would help house democrats or republicans more. and talk about the things they are not doing. and then house democrats especially in iowa. and then to come back to their district during the holidays and say they can get something through that wasn't impeachment to iowa but then joni ernst also gets to come back and she will be vulnerable if she could tell her constituents that as a republican has pull with eresident and she is delivering for iowa and then

is tied to partisan interest. >> in the house democratic members and those who never voted for a trade agreement are on board with a usmca. >> real quick john james got hit hard by stabbing our. and with a republican taken over but the gentleman and then to vote from the derek - - acr democrat so most people do suffer and say why would you

do that? and nancy pelosi is a bad ass. >> he can switch parties he will still face opposition it still question if he even wins the nomination. and then to take that endorsement to hold so much sway at the alabama senate in 2017 it with the governor's races in 2019 and to make any

predictions democrats can lose that congressional districts is to keep the majority that is not one of the priorities and with that texas suburbs the voters in new jersey. >> a lot of that attention is paid to where the trump one in 2016 are they all vulnerable in 2020 i think a lot of them are vulnerable republicans need to pick up 20 seats of those 31 districts but those

are divided into two sections. and those that are suburban and that where they receive the majority of the share in 2016 and romney did but he still carry20 those those are districts and those are trending toward republican. and with white working-class talking about over and over again. and those are the most vulnerable members. the obama and trump voter. >> republicans will probably win some of those but it's a tough seat and with that

effort in places like texas and omaha with those suburbs that were previously republican - - republican are now tending toward strut - - democrat. >> what about the group of 15 yes a rural district in upstate new york he is vulnerable in terms of the actual district. and that's much different question. he has the record he tried to highlight show him partying with the democratic state party of new york that's how he won the election in 2018 as a freshman also will be facing a former congresswoman from that district who lost.

sometimes rematches work sometimes they don't. she lost to the district before so who knows. >>host: he is facing pressure from outside groups from the american action network. >> the impeachment showdown. >> he ignored us a politically motivated charade that left the washington elites not us it's time they stop ignoring the issues that we care about. and to help our veterans and get to work on the issues that matter to us. >> editor of hotline editor-in-chief what do you

make of that kind of add? >> that's a great question republicans and democrats are like the answer to. we saw in the ad of aoc and nancy pelosi similar to the efforts some are concerned about trying to connect with nancy pelosi to the squad and the reason they got elected so there is a question if it is an authentic ad or if it is a political game but either way if democrats anyway should in

that district and then to support impeachment could be more important than with him next to nancy pelosi and aoc. >> republican line. >>caller: i voted for trump i was in service at the end of the vietnam war i am a senior and disabled. i voted fori fo trump because i wanted to drain the swamp with that popular comment of the state of washington and what your guest to comment on specifically if any thinking person cannot see what these people in congress are only there to fill their own

pockets. i don't know how someone can claim to be a democrat and then they switch parties like the one fellow or the one gal i heard her on tv she said i believe he's guilty but i will vote or something. [laughter] this is where i want you to focus because i'm so disillusioned i keep looking for someone to be honest and put the country a few moments in front of their own greed and self-interest and i can't find anybody like that. >> that is an interesting question because you are the one of the voters ofin interested in a lot did it

decide because it wasn't necessary for the republican party because of the idea that washington is corrupt that's when the democratic primary becomes interesting because there is vision trump voters would not support somebody like elizabeth warren and with 2020 and those that had voted for barack obama and whether they would support somebody like joe biden or in the political spotlight or like bernie sanders and also that

something that so many voters wanted in 2016 i don't know the answer to that questionni ot yet but that kind of question is one of the many factors of the 2020 election. >> independent line. they want taxpayers to pay for

reputation -- reparation and they want us to pay for the campaigning, they are just not in touch, they want to get rid of trump because he is shaking things up like your guest said. and it is very sad, our household makes less than 35000 and that's when both of us work and i'm out of work now so were living on minimal amount of money and they just want to keep taxing us and they talk about taxing the rich but it's only the middle class that they are talking about taxing. we have no healthcare, we were charged $4000 because of obamacare because we do not have healthcare, the $4000 could a botanist something but instead, i don't know whose pocket it

went into but it did not go into ours. if we are paying money for people who are getting healthcare often medicaid and medicare where do we stand? host: it is happening to a big question about the role of healthcare and the economy. guest: the two issues with you wash the presidential democratic debate it was one of those bottles between does it help more to say you're paying less in premiums and paying less in taxes or more in taxes, it's a complexit issue. i think the economy in general is a tough issue for democrats heading into 2020 becausese in general if you look at the big indicators the economy seems to be doing well. but if we talk about how actual everyday americans are feeling there's a much different reality on the ground whether

individuals and towns were manufacturing plants have closed down or talking about the new gig economy which in the end comes down to both healthcare and the ability to pay for. what we have seen in the democratic primary -- the democratic candidates who ran for office in 2018 was trying to focus on that as the number one issue all throughout the midterm election. they give themselves credit for winning the majority and talking pretty much solely about healthcare in the way it affec s american pocketbooks. americans want to see that again in 2020 and some republicans especially republicans who are in districts that are not super supportive of donald trump would like to do the same thing but with impeachment in the everyday chaos in washington it's hard to

know whether or not by november 2020 that will bebe the issue dominating the campaign or house or senate campaign. host: let's talk about rogers, it's been reported that the capitol hill producer tweeting the health exits committee after aa five-year review for the eighth term republican congresswoman from washington state has determined she has misused taxpayer dollars and had to reimburse the u.s. treasury in $7575.95. in the newspaper, they note she accepted responsibility and the report concluded the representative provided an appropriate consultant services and the allegations included funds from political mut commite using official resources for campaign activities and using campaign resources for her effort to land the house readership position. she is no longer in leadership.

issue vulnerable. guest: that's a good question when we talk about individuals and office who have ethics issue, they put them in the realm of vulnerable members. in rogers was on the edge of the 2018 debate about whether or not she could be vulnerable. shep ended up with targets. but we have seen over and over that even people in congress who n have been indicted and people who have gone to jail for financial reasons do win elections. we've seen that duncan hunter had his own issues before the 2018 election, the republican of california won reelection and in new york. he easily won reelection. soon to says too whether one of these violations would change the reelection

process. host: hunter has been guilty and resigning his seat. he did not vote on impeachment he's been asked not to vote before he steps down. in maryland democratic caller. >> caller: good morning to both of you. i think as democrats we really need to get out of the delusional state of mind, i'm looking at 40 districts that we can lose easily and we need to focus on two things, the white house and the senate. trump is packing the courts, they slipped the third district and if he gets four more years, they will slip the ninth up, ruth gator mintzberg, god bless her soul, she cannot last, she is sick. mcconnell will force another nominee in the supreme court

justice, joe biden has to address the thing with hunter biden he cannot say it is not true, he has to have a good answer for that because he is the only one that can beat trump, none of the other candidates can beat trump. host: a lot to chew on. >> i think elect ability is what you hit on their. the question whether joe biden is the best candidate to take on donald trump as a democrat in the white house. joe biden has campaigned on the message and it looks like the majority of democratic voters believe he is the strongest candidate to take on trump which is probably the number one reason why he's been leading in the polls but then there's another question, are democrats going to use the lesson of 2018 to win the white house in 2020. what democrats learned in 2018 that running candidates who did not have political records, and

no political baggage and an opening election. we saw most in many of the democratic house freshman this year are people who are previously in the cia or in the armed services. people who are doctors and not olcareer politicians and that helps democrats when the majority with the swing voters. joe biden is an anomaly because he seen as the most delectable by many democrats even though he's been in the public i for decades. in some ways him being in the public eye inoculates them from being attacked which is what he so steady because people know who he is. so i gap in a debate or a particular item and his record be brought up will not hurt him because voters know aboutad it. on the other hand, does somebody who is younger and less of a record who has been on the stage for less time even like bernie sanders who is in office for a

long time that's only been in the national political spotlight for a few years, is that somebody who can have a better chance of winning -- beating donald trump, that's a huge question we do not know the answer to. host: one last call in illinois, republican. >> caller: i would like to make a few comments in my last one i would like your a guest to comment. ukraine aboutne russia, wasn't t in the newspaper that ukraine court found federal ukraine's guilty in the 16th election. i forgot about number two, number three, this is one i want for her too comment. i did not know about duncan they asked him not to vote in impeachment. and he did not. but a representative from hawaii

voted by her boat did not count but those are an effort problem, there's a two-tier problem but isn't it a conflict of interest for the five candidates that are running against president trump in an election in casting a vote to throw them out of office, isn't that the same thing they accuse him of. host: we will take that point, five archers in the senate impeachment trial. >> that's a good question. again, the senators running for reelection -- running for president their number one concern is they will not be able to spend time in iowa. they will spend their time in washington for the impeachment trial which is many reasons why democrats want this process to go quickly so they can go back

to the campaign. host: remind viewers when they come back from holiday break it is january 6. the iowa caucus is generally 27th. everything begins that week. guest: exactly, that is the chance for people like joe biden to solidify his standing in iowa. while everybody else is in washington, i think klobuchar more than anyone else because she had a breakout performance last night in the democratic debate and she has been going slow and steady and climbing and she needs the breakout time but does she have time? will people be watching politics over christmas and new year's? there is not going toh be much time for her when she gets back to stand out from the pack. host: right after i what is new hampshire primary the first week in february. following through all the eyes will be on new hampshire as

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