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everybody swears on the bible they would not touch them but you know that's going to be the next think they will try to dismantle. i would say that's cause number one. >> and i am most interested in injuring that kids and schools and adults to access to education, no programs their suffering, no one would take arts education out of the schools, keep children culturally aware, incredibly important to each one of us. >> voices from the road on c-span. >> host: from our studios in manchester, new hampshire, primary day which are next by transcanada, covers politics for "politico"ic but he is recently with the political layay of the landam in new hampshire and has reported for the union leader and for the concord monitor.
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as the voting gets underway, what felt different about this year's primary and what felt the same? >> guest: what's different this year is everyone is so confused it actually the party thinks because of the confusion, because of the number of candidates that there are, the turnout lower than we've seen in 2008, 2016, because voters are saying, you know what, look, abt, anything but trump. i'm happy to vote for whoever the eventual nominee is even if i don't like with them and all their policies. i'm willing to hold my nose if the something specific i don't about them. they're saying the party has been saying is maybe people will turn out as much today but they hope people will turn out in november. that's really different. people are always confused about who to vote for that last cycle the difference between bernie sanders and hillary clinton was pretty clear. we saw that with sanders winning
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with more than 60% of the vote. here's what's the same, that people are taking this seriously. in new hampshire, hundreds of thousands of people are going to vote no matter what the turnout is. people are special in the last week after iowa, such a muddled field, people redoubled their efforts to. figure who they want to vote for. i was at a number of events over the last week, and everyone i talked to seemed to be either undecided, you know, besides the real fanatics but most seem to be undecided and taking the time trying to understand which candidate he wanted to go for. >> host: it does feel like the ground is shifting from a number of candidates, bernie sanders surging in one poll, amy klobuchar getting fundraising after the fighting that debate performance and pete buttigieg coming in having quote one the eye will caucuses although sanders is contesting that. does this feel as late as
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being undecided about who they will vote for? >> guest: here's the thing is that i've been covering this primer since it began, , and you would see all the searches. kamala harris searched, cory booker, sanded from neuse jersey was surging. the question is, who is searching tonight -- surging. and does feel this is the latest breaking situation i've ever seen but here's the other thing with these polls. if you dig into the polling, you get past the top light of this person is in first place and this many points, if you read them both andnd that what you se is 50% of people are truly undecided. the other thing is how to ask the question. it's not are you guaranteed to votee for this person on electn day? it is, who are you voting for or who are you likely to vote for? the thing about new hampshire
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residentsw is sometimes they jt like line to pollsters and other times they can be crotchety about sticking with the candidate all the way to the end. there are people who decide at the very less medicine. there's no way to pull those people. have you has been asking who do you think will win? i never get my prediction but i think there is an argument for any one of the top five candidates to win. >> host: trent spiner joining us from manchester. welcome your comments. we'll put the numbers on the screen. in new hampshire that line is 202-748-8003. the president dropped 88003. the president dropped in the manchester last night, another big rally ahead of a primary he certainly will win but what effect does the president showing up the night before the new hampshire primary have? >> guest: well, depending on who you ask, it is different.
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the president and his campaign are very well organized especially compared to 2016 when he didn't have a campaign. it was was just a candidate. now that more than a dozen people, outreach offices, this whole strategic plan of how to get out, turnout voters that their focus on november. i asked than 80 different ways who do you hope will win the primary? what are you doing to influence the democratic primary? and they say, nothing. we see them all as the same and it doesn't matter who we brought against wee think america doesnt want their policies and they would prefer to go with president trump that's what trump's campaign says. in terms of what that meant it was interesting to see on the ground the rally was directly across the street from the hotel where i met right now which is the headquarters of the national media, and so this rally had people stretched half a mile down the street and roads blocked off.
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all the same type of the candidates at the same time were holding rallies of the own all over the place. it's somethingng we've never sen before in new hampshire. typically republicans do try and stay out of the new hampshire primary, but as you know president trump loves counterprogramming and that's exactly what it was. it drove a lot of people into the city, the city is somewhere around 11,000 people showed up which for manchester is a really big deal. >> host: we're seeing your reporting, nine places to watch the new hampshire. these are the cities and towns where you'll find clues to the outcome of the first in the nation primary. since most of us will not be in new hampshire in those towns watching, what should we be looking for? what are the sites we should look for early on in terms of a clueue to who might win tonight? >> guest: i have been hoping to write a story of when her to 50 places to watch because that's what i'll be doing tonight but my editor would go for it. here's what we should be looking
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for. in the college towns, , so durh, plymouth, keene, that's we see the highest number of new voter registration. in 2016 that was a huge help for sanders to win the state by more than 60%. that's one of the things i've been looking at today. new registrations in those college towns could be a good site for sanders. he could be a good site for andrew yang who's been also targeting that demographic. the are a couple of traditional blue-collar towns in new hampshire. that includes nashua which is on the southern border of massachusetts, with massachusetts, and some words of manchester where it's very working-class. the results last time favored hillary clinton. i'll duplicate some of these wards in thehe heart of the city of these cities to see how joe biden is doing. if he's doing well in some of those really blue-collar working-class towns that's a good site for him, a place has
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been focus on a lot, both manchester and nashua. i'll be looking for what we call the obama trump towns, cities. these are places that elected, voted for barack obamaha in 2008 and 2012, then trump one of these places. one example uses clairmont new hampshire. it's a small milltown along a a small river, kind of quintessential new england downtown but here's the thing,, when all the mills left no one moved in. i..
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this is for everybody. why are you, why do you have the heading new hampshire ademocratic primary. i had a couple people wondering if it's for the rest of us, it is. it's not just for the democrats. i think it's just da democratic thing. >> host: absolutely, weare focusing on the democratic party because obviously that's where the mostly contested race will be. did you have a question or comment for our guest ? >> caller: know, i'm just wondering why you would participate in something that just says it's the democratic primary, it's the new hampshire primary primary . >> host: stephen on our democrats line in los angeles . >> i live in los angeles california and i was working class before i got diagnosed.
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my medication got to $147,000 a year. what trump just released his new budget cut, don't people w feel like they will get left behind if they are in similar situations because our budget is arepresentation of your moral value and by taking giant cuts out of medicare and social security which is an majority of how a lot of americans pay for their illnesses , does that not leave them further behind than they already were since people are not feeling any economic recovery outside of the stock marketand most people that don't own stock portfolios ? >> stephen. >> guest: stevens question is what i've heard dozens of times on the campaign trail. healthcare is perhaps the number one issue candidates
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are talking about climate change could come right behind it, maybe time that story that's being told , it's heartbreaking as it is , happens to all kinds of numbers of other people and candidates have used folks just like stephen to speak at their events , open up their events to get the crowd perspective. i didn't say warmed up but would get the crowd perspective of what is happening in america and use those stories, stories like stevens to draw distinction between what is happening between themselves and their campaign. >> host: republican line, miami florida, this is sean. >> caller: good morning gents. i just want to say this. you had one color 15 minutes back that said trump is going
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to get 75 to 80 million votes and i think it's going to go higher. he's going to get the african-american vote this time, at least 25 percent but bill barr is coming out with a sanctuary city problem, we've got 27 million illegals in this country and barr is going to clean up these sanctuary cities. i don't believe along to either party and i think laws are being broken with immigration. trump is going to take this election over because if they run berg talking about immigration they're going to get swamped because that is a swap because they areflooding this country illegal immigration for their votes and people are going to wake up . one color you had from all these new yorkers moving to florida and carolina, their bringing their liberal policies with them and we don't want them as their bringing all their liberal policies. >> guest: president trump, you talked about the organization of his campaign and word is at the campaign thinks they can win in new hampshirethis time around .
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>> guest: they think they can win in new hampshire, he lost by not very much . last time around in 2016 so they are investing a ton of money. i was talking to them about their campaign operation and it's pretty extensive so they have a database of voters in new hampshire. i have a very good idea who they're going to target and they've been doing a lot of counterprogramming, this is something you never saw in 2016. he just swept into town, people showed up because he was famous and this time around it's different. they are organizingevents, you see trump supporters outside all the democratic events . when the democrats had their bigmeeting , democratic dinner on friday, several hundred trump supporters and that is a level of organization we haven't seen before and that's to the color! , that's saying maybe he's going to get more votes, there is something that i'll
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be watching to see that organization to see if that does help him. >> host: who would you sayon the democratic side that run the most organized campaign ? >> guest: forget my opinion because i'm always wrong about everything but i did profile democrats from across the political spectrum and i asked them that question and three out of five said elizabeth warren had the best campaign. there was anotherdemocratic convention was the first major kickoff of the primary in september . it was very clear that she had one of the best organizations. there were so many people, busloads of college students who came up from massachusetts to support her and then i get at dinner on friday that she had the biggest organization. they all have their heel colored shirts, they all had signs, they had these matching synchronized led bracelets so they went up in the crowd so she has a very
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solidoperation here . sanders on the other hand had the biggest operation, he's got more than 150 staff members here which is two or three times the size of everyone else and he also is outspending everybody area and he has paid canvassers to knock on doors.i've been to some of their canvas kickoffs when volunteers go out to knock on doors and call voters and there's a ton of passion there. i think between sanders and warren there's really, it's about who's going to turn out voters and that's the most importantthing in the new hampshire primary . we've been focused this for the last year and there are voters just turning in now and somebody going and knocking on someone's door can make a big difference. >> host: here's gary, democrats line, connors bill indiana. >> caller: good morning mister scanlon and mister skinner.
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three quick points.i want to say yang would make a strong vice presidential candidate and my second point, i'm going to make a huge statement but get ready. i believe if bernie sanders was our president he would be the greatest since franklin delano roosevelt but the only concern is i have to he's pushing he's 80 and he's a health liability so my third point, tom steyer. i'd like to ask you what does pete buttigieg have that tom steyer does not have? >> host: trent, do you wantto take any of that ? >> guest: i'll talk about tom steyer. maybe two months ago eynow, tom steyer has spent so much money here and let off with this funny anecdote, there were two girls here and they sat down at their dinner table and they could repeat the tom steyer ad they saw on youtube word for word.
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impeach donald trump, that kind of thing. everyone knows who he is. he's got great name recognition because of all the advertising both on social media and on television. for a time he was outspending everybody and i really don't understand if you ask me why he hasn't picked up steam in new hampshire, i couldn't give you an answer. he number of the, he kind of fits the bill. people are super interested in the environment, that's his number one issue. he's got a slot of money. he does well on the stump but he hasn't been able to pick up traction in new hampshire. i'd be surprised to see him go out of the low single digits . and he has an operation in south carolina so he's going to be moving on, he says he's moving on what everyone is looking for electability and i think if you win new hampshire or finish in new hampshire witha few percentage points it's a hard argument to make . >> host: let's go to our independent line, herndon virginia.
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>> caller: i'm in a blue ucstate area and i'm an independent but what i was trying to get to is the reason why i think everyone is going to go for trump this year is because trump has an actual plan or immigrants is a marriagebased system . there isn't a single democrat running in the democratic party that has a merit-based system, all they have is a lottery and a sympathy based system but no border wall with the influx of drugs coming from these kids that my kids have to go through and the threat of all these wires and stuff like that, a border wall in any country i don't care what country he's going from, everyone has a border and trump is the only candidate that is talking about a marriage based system like canada has, like australia has and the united kingdom has. right now we have a broken system that has green card lottery where people have to
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go and pray. they go to all these international countries and they have to go pay people to do thisapplication, they don't know what country they're even applying for . it's a scam. >> host: on immigration, it's come up as an issue on the democrats side. >> guest: huge issue, all the democrats do have a merit-based system included in their plans, at least the major candidates and this is a thing they discussed a lot. immigration, even in new hampshire where there isn't a ton of immigration, it's one of the lease diapers eighth but it's an issue that people find important and democrats are supportive of a merit-based system at least from what i'm hearing in the town hall and i would say in terms of issues number three, four, five something that people absolutely care about a couple of questions on text, that number is 8003,
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jane from cape cod says went to the trump rally, democrats can only wish theyhad that kind of enthusiasm and excitement . this one says we haven't talked about like mike bloomberg yet. bloomberg and bring over moderates and conservatives, reach across the aisle and work with republicans in the senate . mike bloomberg not on the ballot is his presence being thought -mark other than winning the polling up there in dixville notch, we understand this morning. >> which was kind of funny. the two things, on the trump rally, what was interesting to me to see was the democrats and their big convention. this was their big test of being able to get people out, motivating their supporters right behind, before the election so that was on friday night and iwould say there were between seven and 80,000 people in the arena , the democrats weren't wouldn't release the official number but i have apretty good sense . and the turnout for trump was very different.for trump, not everyone was from new hampshire but the stadium was completely packed.
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i believe he set a new record at more than 11,500 or 600 so you could really tell the difference. this is one aanecdote of 2 events but as a journalist being at both of them you could see the difference in terms of enthusiasm to that first texture!. and the second thing, bloomberg. here's a thing and i keep saying this but is all about electability or new hampshire democrats so they are trying to gain up the system to figure out who can win. not only new hampshire, nevada, south carolina bloomberg , when they hit the bloomberg wall, some of them are calling on super tuesday, will there be enough momentum , enough money to compete against bloomberg? one of the nightmare situations that democrats here gaining out is let's say there's a less experienced candidate, someone who doesn't have as much money so
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for example buttigieg is one i've heard a lot about. what if mike bloomberg drops $200 million in negative advertising across the a country against mayor buttigieg so democrats are concerned about that, it's just, they want someone to win. someone asked joe biden and all of you for still in the race just combined, can you just get together, because the presidents want to be, pick the vice president going to be, pick which cabinet secretaries, who would be cabinet secretaries just the trump . that's kind of dissent among democrats . >> your melle mel rep ohio on the republican line area. >> good morning gentlemen. just an anecdotal question this morning, perhaps you've covered this already. i've just been listening for a few minutes now. tell me about or tell us about a little town in new hampshire, i believe it is both first each year and what the track record has been, the accuracy of their vote? >>.
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>> guest: i'm going to get in trouble for saying this but do not pay attention to those early voting counts. it used to be a big tradition and it's turned into a kitschy thing at the national media likes to focus on. but in dixville notch there were five people and so nowhere else in the country would any, and god bless these but nobody would any other, anyone ever go cover the polling place with five people, no one's going to do that in south carolina so i really would just throw that, it's i think at this point it's a punchline and i know i'mgoing to get in trouble for saying that . >> notable from us and we did share the results earlier. we haven't talked about amy klobuchar, dan of the washington post writing about her in new hampshire, the headline klobuchar to chart her new momentum into votes, what have you seen of her campaign after mark.
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>> i spent about three days with senator klobuchar a few weeks ago to write a profile of her operation and they don't, they are understaffed and underfunded here. but as you saw, those polls come out just last night. she's now in third potentially. what i've heard from voters is she had a great debate and they were really enthusiastic about that. they are worried about biden and they think that, people who are more moderate voters are looking to her as a potential replacement. i department for her is you know, not as old as biden, i'm not as experienced as buttigieg so i'm kind of the perfect mix. and the other thing is she has really spent a lot of time trying to connect herself with the two united states senators here, senator shaheen and hassan and that three-day period,she dropped their names almost 40 times . what she's, he seized this
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opportunitythat no one else is using to say look, you have elected these two people . for all kinds of different jobs. now they're in the senate, i like them. you know what they're like. i'm going to give you the same sort of presidency that they would give you if they were in office so you should leelect me. >> hears avery in brandywine maryland, independent lines . >> that morning, but my question is regarding pete buttigieg. as someone who is e african-american, also homosexual i'm concerned taabout his overall appeal across the nation and those bible belt, red state along with the african-american communities. it seems to be able to have the check marks on paper. he's there, brings a different perspective, is mature. he knows how to hold the sentence and uses dictionary quite well. although that's not whatwe've
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seen in the white house but how does that resonate, his homosexuality, hislifestyle ? how does that connect to the voters that he needs to connect to ? >> host: we will get a response. >> guest: that's a good question. a lot of, he mentions his husband in every speech and chaplain has been campaigning for him hoping to open offices and with his supporters, there is, they obviously love that. they see them as a superstar couple. i have heard from democrats that they are concerned about that red state actor, how will it playout ? so as part of the new hampshire democrats trying to game can win, and then the donald trump i do think that comes into consideration for them. >> political reporter with politico, lots of experience in new hampshire obviously and following his reporting tonight especially on twitter, thanks for being with us this morning. >> thank you.
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>> today is primary day in new hampshire, the first in the nation and national journal politics senator josh krakauer points out that joe biden and his wife jill will be leaving the granite state shortly to be in south carolina by tonight.the vice president went to talk to supporters in new hampshire by videoconference read scene of the new york times has this breakdown of the number of days democratic candidate spent the new hampshire area shows hawaii representative told the gabbard spent themost time there, 96 days while joe biden was therefore less than a month. read the entire article@reedepstein.com and finally , politico tweets bill clinton lost new hampshire in 1992 but declared himself the comeback kid anyway. barack obama lost new hampshire in 2008 and deliver the yes we can speak, arguably the greatest speaking of his life. will anyone lose yet win tonight?
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live coverage of the new hampshire primary results at 7:30 p.m. eastern on c-span to the u.s. senate taking a break, attending their weekly party caucus lunches and when they come back senators will take a final vote to confirm andrew brasher to be a judge on the 11th circuit and we will take procedural votes on for other judicial nominees. more live coverage when lawmakers return right here on c-span2. >> the new hampshire primary is today. watch results and candidate speeches starting at 7:30 p.m. eastern live on c-span, cspan.org or listen on the free c-span radio app. >> our c-span campaign 20/20
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bus is traveling across new hampshire, asking voters what issues should presidential candidates address ? >> the issue that's most important to me in 2020 is taking care of our great friends, making sure we don't go to war and that we are working with our allies to secure our united states . >> income inequality and wall street reform, standing up to wall street investors. >> racial justice whether it be police brutality, addressing systemic racism within our government and issues of separation. >> i'm mostly concerned about social programs, the maintaining of social programs like the social security. i know everybody swears on the bible they're not going to touch it but you know that's going to be the next thing you're going to try to dismantle. and i would say that's cause
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number one. >> i am most interested in ensuring that kids in school and adult have access to the arts, that there's no programs that are suffering. that they are going to get funded as best we can and no one is going to take arts education out of school. these children are aware and incredibly informed. >> voices from the road on c-span . >> c-span: your unfiltered view of government created by cable in 1979 and brought to you by your television provider . >> now the entire press conference with house speaker nancy pelosi and minority leader chuck schumer about president trump 2021 budget request and election security. it isjust over 20 minutes .
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