[applause] if you would like to purchase a copy of the book, there are available outside and marvin will stay on the stage for assigning them. [inaudible conversations] >> you are watching the tv on c-span2 with top nonfiction books and authors every weekend. book tv, television for serious readers. [inaudible conversations] >> good evening, i am tony clark from the carter library, i cannot tell you how excited i am to see you all from the audience, washing this, it has rained all day long and it is raining very hard right now and to see you all turn out tonight i think is a tribute to ingrid and her organization in the book. thank you all very much.

i appreciate it. if you have not been to our author program before, i would encourage you to go on to the jimmy carter library website, we have 2 - 3 authors, sometimes for every week and they are just fascinating, later this week we have a book called wilmington's fly, the rise of white nationalist in wilmington north carolina back in the 1880s. we have judge douglas ginsburg talking about his book, voices of the republic into tie-in with the pbs series on thursday, we have a whole bunch of wonderful authors so i would encourage you to take a look and come back and see us again. i am delighted for tonight's program, ingrid newkirk was born in england, you'll be able to tell that with the accent. she lived in europe until she was seven years old and then her

parents moved to new delhi where her father worked as a engineer and her mother volunteered for mother teresa and various charities. her early volunteer experiences packing pills, rolling bandages for people who suffer from leprosy, stuffing toys for orphans, feeding straight animals, that created her view that anyone in need including animals is worthy of concern. she founded peta and since that time it's grown into the world's largest animal rights organization, her passion and dedication to making the world a better place for all living beings has inspired countless of others and the subject of tonight's book "animalkind", the things of how we should treat animals, please join me in welcoming ingrid newkirk.

[applause] >> thank you very much everybody for coming out, as i said you are the atlanta braves getting through all out there. it is a privilege to be here at the jimmy carter presidential library and i have several antidotes about president carter because i was a humane officer in washington, d.c. when he was president and there was a time for example when the bourbon company decided to toss a real wild turkey over the white house reels and human landed in a tree and my job was to go out and persuade the secret service that he was no threat to the president. [laughter] the president didn't need to worry about this bird and they should leave him in peace and

not shave him. two days later the bird flew off and went to live happily ever after on roosevelt island. [laughter] with the more relevant story concerns president carter's middle east peace initiative. so one christmas along time ago i traveled to bethlehem and in palestine were jimmy carter and i were giving talk and talk on nonviolence, it was a very first night with the banquet and a representative from all over the world who is there to talk about respect for others, understanding peace and nonviolence. , on the way to the dinner we passed to the market square, then there was the butcher who is slaughtering these goats and

sheep in the market square, we saw it all. and we arrived at the banquet hall and sat down and it was christmas and there was a very large picture of jesus holding one of these gentle lamps and then dinner was served in each of us was given a lamb shank and i thought back them, no one was connecting the dots. in somebody needed to say something and of course several of us made the case that this was not the time to serve a violent mill at a nonviolent conference. the very next day i was sitting in the hall listening to the speakers and one by one they would come up and talk about how they had been imprisoned unjustly, they had had their home bulldozed, they had their all of groves seized in each

speaker ended by saying these words, please respect us, we are human beings. and i sat there and i thought about it and i was the only speaker at the time to address the animal nation in the animal individual and so i made the case that the identity of victims of violence is not important what is important is there is needless violence. so i found myself at the end of my speech saying, one day i hope to come here and i hope we will be able to say please respect this because we are living beings. it doesn't matter if or human or not. and then that night we were all staying in the monastery and it was a monastery hotel, it even had a bar. i went back to the hotel and i heard the woman talking about

how excited she was that there was a christmas market and she was going to be buying these sweaters at the christmas market and then she spotted me and she said i heard you talk today. and i would just like to know how you can talk about during our being shot and i did not say to her, i don't know how you can talk to them about sweaters and the christmas market when little children are being shot but instead i just said surely our hearts are big enough to care about little children and animals because they're all victims of violence, so last night millions of people were watching the oscars and they were reminded of this disconnection, this disconnect,

they were asked to connect the dots, they were asked to consider that we are linked not ranked. in joaquin phoenix said this, whether were talking about gender inequality or racism or indigenous rights or animal rights, we're talking about injustice. were talking about the fight against the belief that one nation, one people, one race, one gender, one species has the right to dominate control, abuse and exploit another with impunity. he said, i think we become very disconnected from the natural world and many of us what were guilty of is an egocentric, i would say that humana centric, we feel entitled to artificially

inseminate account when she gives birth and then we still her baby. even though her cries of anguish are unmistakable, and they are and then we take the milk intended for her calf and put it in her coffee and our cereal. so i love joaquin phoenix for pushing the on the loop and making people think and for sticking up for the animals who are often forgotten. recently he also made the golden globe begin and after that another one and after that a third after. and when he asked them could you please not serve animals the way i will did in bethlehem, could you please not serve them at a nonviolent place because please don't serve them out of celebration, he said we could all be vegan but we need to serve the little fish.

and i don't know if you know his story, he became vegan when he saw a fish darted on the deck of a ship he said no you cannot do that and they said all right, will make the whole thing began. so he is the person of the year and we are very proud of him. [applause] so we should get to the book. many of us read books and we were children with mythical animals, one just powers, pegasus the flying horse, dragons, unicorns, you name it. and what james stone and i set up to do, and "animalkind" and show the animals from all around us, every single day, not mythical at all do have what you might call superpowers. but people down badly underestimate the other animals,

even those who care deeply about them sometimes. you may be showing love for an animal by calling them your for baby but also they are not babies at all. you are absolutely whole and complete and thinking and they are feeling individuals and they have interest that need to be taken into account. experimenters often call other animals nonhuman. if it's not fair i would find that amusing because it's like a non-hamster. it makes so little sense . they're not non-anything. they are whole beings with an norm is an often fairly unrecognized intelligence. they have emotions, love, fear, pain, joy, they like to be free but they're often totally

ignored. that's what joaquin phoenix was talking about, a mother's love for her calf. it's not even considered a factor if somebody wants a cheese topping on their pizza. not a thought for that cow. so i'm going to give you ten examples with animal real life superpowers. i shouldn't give you more than that or you won't buy the book. we can't survive ten minutes under the ice but the turtle can hold his breath under the ice for over 100 days. if you go to the airport these days which i promise you i do almost every day, it's not an airport anymore, it's a maze of restaurants, fast food, it's a place where you eat. and then you get on the plane and they give you a snack and then they try to sell you food, apparently they think that human beings cannot go 400 miles or so unless they are eating.

but the time he go tiny bird frw zealand fly 7000 miles without stopping for food or water, no human being could possibly come close to that. a squirrel varies their nets by the position of the stars, just imagine and if they know that another squirrel is watching or another human being is watching they pretend to bury it but actually they don't liberate someone else. we use gps but pigeons use low-frequency radio waves among other things to navigate, there was a time when human beings did not know the word radio waves, pigeons knew it all along. and perhaps you have seen the

footage that peter has taken of pigeon racing which sounds very benign and sounds absolutely harmless, what could be more harmless than pigeon racing. a lot of these races take place over open water, boats upload the birds in the middle of the sea or they fly the birds back to spain or from germany back to scotland and to do that to get home the birds have to cross these immense spaces, the immense body of water and birds and pigeons are petrified of crossing those bodies of water especially when they cannot see land on the other side. but you know how it is done, pigeons know about cross currents and all other reasons to be afraid that the reason they fly, very few make it the

statistics are absolutely shocking. is because the pigeon races no pigeons mate for life, wonderful mothers and fathers both the father and the mother pigeon make note in their crop. so if you see a pigeon with their beak down another pigeon, they could be kissing because they do that to but they may be feeding their baby. and pigeons keep the mate or the egg or the baby back in the attic and then asked when they take the other one away and that's why they risk their very lives and many of them lose their lives to get home. this is taiwan, something like 95% of thousands upon thousands of birds, beautiful gentle little birds perished.

mountaineers use oxygen masks around 23000 feet and they have to use special suits but the goose can fly without any of that at 26000 feet. tiny garden snails taken a few miles from the home, i'm not wrecking mending anybody do this but they will find their way back because it is their home, they were spend two years if they need to and they will get there at the speed of 0.029 miles an hour and snakes do the same thing. so elephants, i learned a lot about elephants and writing this book, things i did not know how they use their trunks to snorkel when they go swimming and how they can pick up a paperclip the way you would use your thumb.

years ago we used to think the rumbling sound that they made was indigestion. it was not any such thing. it was subsonic communication. it is now called silent thunder. they send messages to herds of elephants that are far far away, maybe a drought and they found a waterhole and they tell those elephants who are a long way away, you can get here and get something to drink or today the chinese are capturing baby elephants from places and taken them to national parks at amusement and the babies are being captured places in africa that you could find another herd all the way at the end of the park against the fence trembling because they have heard from these elephants are babies are being taken.

there little miles are just ultrasound vibrations, but the mechanisms only previously seen in engines. it's a sound we cannot hear but all their friends can. chimpanzees, you may know can outsmart college students in memory test, yes you put a smarty-pants college student there and a young chimpanzee next to them and put symbols or numbers on the board and take them away very quickly, the chimpanzee will be able to say put them back in the right place far quicker than the college student. they have almost photographic memories. which means you must never ever show them a atm pin number. [laughter] years ago at the university of washington in american sign leg

which class, she taught her own son. they would invent words like water bird and water fruit if they saw something they did not know the name. he had one of his research students walking a chimpanzee through the ground, both getting exercise in the juvenile chimpanzee decided to be naughty and went up the tree in the college student was thinking i've got to get back to class. so they pulled the leash around the chimpanzees neck and the chimpanzee just pulled the college student right up into the tree. [laughter] the taser that carries electrical charge throughout their body that could stunt a human being in a split second period our military has tried to replicate that is ten times tougher and forget spider-man,

the gecko has these electron infused suction cups on his feet and he can go up the side of the wall and absolutely be upside down above you without any problem. and as for dogs, i learned so much about dogs, i renew that there is a vastly superior to ours, their sense of smell but what i did not know is this, they are now being used by law enforcement officers to catch child pornographers. and that is because child pornographers will put their film on a thumb drive and a dog can smell the thumb drive inside a metal box inside a metal cabinet. no law enforcement officer can do that . that's fantastic. it also means because their nose are so cute that you can never hurry them along their walk

because they are reading the news, that is their internet out there. they're not out there just to do their business so you can go on and do whatever you want to do, that is their excursion, their big moment, they don't want to be sitting in the house with her legs crossed looking up the wall, you have to let them have their time, it's their walk, it's also the reason their noses that you can never eat in front of them because they smell it that they want it more than you do. and there is much, much more, do you know somebody has figured out how to give an mri to dogs without stressing or traumatizing them. what they have discovered is a very same part of their brain lights up when you give them a treat as a businessman lights up if you give him a raise.

[laughter] i'm just telling you. [laughter] such for intelligent life in the paper in the news every week people going out looking for signs of intelligent life on other planets but intelligent life is all around us. a row of just a few months of age without being taught has figured out how to drop rocks into the water so the food floats to the top so he could take it out. show me a human baby who can do that. cows and horses can open complicated multiple problem gate locks and cows have taught themselves to operate water pumps when they are thirsty. , it's absolutely extraordinary. they all watch and have to pay attention to what humans are doing and then learn from that. , there is a pig in the philippines that has made fun of

toby because he looks like that. he is the filipino naughty pig. and people might like him but he's a smart fellow like most animals. what the filipino pig has been doing is where there are electrified fences but they are not always on, the pig will take rocks and push them with her snout up against the fence and if the fence goes ping ping paying they know it's electrified and they don't go near it. and if there is no sound they go right through. they don't care. we have all seen on youtube the videos of dogs who wait until there humans have gone out and then everything is quiet and they do this. [laughter] they take out what they need and

i see the videos where they put the chair back. i did a lot of research into my intelligent stories but one of my favorite stories is a man who taught money enter monkey how to pick flowers for him. i'm not in favor of having servant monkeys, and how a lot of coconut products come into the united states like highland were there picked by monkeys who are kept on chains to a small hut their entire life is being trained brutally to go up the tree, come down and then they go mad in their little huts for the rest of their lives. this guy who trained the monkey to pick flowers, they were in asia, walking along the top of a

sheer drop of thousands of feet and he saw there was something he never seen before and he wanted it. so he told the monkey, go down and get the orchid. in the monkey just looked at him, looked back and did not budge. and then he eventually lost his temper with the monkey and ordered him go down and get the orchid. in the monkey look to him, look back and went over to the side, found a blin vine, hand over had picked the orchid and gave it to him for he who is the clever of the two. and then there are the undervalued little animal fish and i'm going to mention one

fish, this is also called the teeth cleaning fish. i'll tie you what this is, there is called a gold standard of animal intelligence it's a test and if you show tribal people from america for the first time they think they're being attacked when they something out-of-print the chimpanzee passed and there attacked pre-but recently looking at herself in the mirror as she figured out that is me in what she does is not only look at herself but she starts preening like kim kardashian. [laughter] then there are dolphins, everybody loves dolphins, dolphins have unique whistle names for each other and each dolphin is given a name, whistle name when they're born and they

keep it for the rest of their lives. this is amazing because if they have not seen or heard from a particular dolphin in 20 years and they hear the whistle, they know who it is. which is in shock to my high school reunion which i went to in england not so long ago and everyone said to everyone else, you have not changed a bit. and then you saw them peeking out the name tag to see who they were talking to not so with dolphins. we talk about sympathy, understanding in the book and all the wonderful things that animals do. and just as it was coming out we had the fires in australia which i know upset so many people,

anyone with a heart because of the kangaroos particular in the qualifiers and what have you. but i just want to mention another animal that was caught up in those fires, australia is the world's biggest exporter it's nothing but sheep ranchers. if you look on the internet, you can find not only the pictures of the koalas and kangaroos but those gentle dear sheep and the sheep can recognize other sheep as human beings from photographs and they look after each other with a deer smoke under most gentle family animal and when the slaves came they ran in they ran but they ran up to the fence. and then they cannot go any further. and that's when they burned to death. and i talk about that at the time because it reminded me of north carolina when we had the awful tornadoes in the big storm that came in, we knew it was

coming four days and nobody had the courtesy to let the animals out of the barn, they just let them drowned as the water backed up, nobody in australia had the courtesy or decency to cut the fence. so i think of those forgotten animals quite a bit, the other thing is around this time in los angeles fires, we saw that on the news. i was watching a news feed and they had a horse barn that was in smoke and behind the farm you could see the flames coming down towards it. and then there was the road and they were trailers, horse trailers parked on the road to get the horses out, and they were getting ready to go because things were coming and there were two horses about to be loaded in one of them was a

stallion and you suddenly' saw his ears perk up and he turned around and he was say no, no, he broke away, ran back down the road, went down the path into the smoke and trotted ranch in your heart was a mess, he heard a man whining and he went in and the next thing you know is a male in her foul being back onto the road to be loaded into the trailer. . . .

and slide down snow-covered cars. ♪ [laughter] the cows in us do they keep them in a shed in winter and they stand a shed for months. we know, now we get to go out so first they come out cautiously and then they say, we are out. these massive cows just leaping about with pure joy. and no one can believe a ball and i run abol sanctuary. what kind of an idiot runs at

old sanctuary? i run abol sanctuary in india but the ball literally likes to play just like a dog. ♪ ♪ chickens jump from low-hanging apples. it takes them a while. she wants at apple. not giving up here. up she goes. rats giggle when they are tickled in we all know dogs love to jump for joy. it's such a simple pleasure. so we take people back to a time

when using animals as tools for convenience and after rest of their limbs were considered quite normal for pigeons were used as messengers for now we text. wells fargo delivered packages by pony express and now we are talking drones. canaries were sent down coalmines to see if the gases down there were toxic in my kill people. sometimes it killed the canary and now we have a synthetic human nose. ringling brothers was once considered exotic. [applause] and now we have a reality. you can go under the sea and you can touch and play and interact with animals without harming a hair on their heads. until we pushed, and that's what it takes, to be aware of who animals are in push for changes so they don't get hurt. companies brazenly said they

actually have to test their cosmetics on animals. it was required. they said they had to kill a rabbit for a pregnancy test. no more. dogs had to be used in experiments. no, gone. monkeys had to be sent into space. we stopped it and we were told that humans had to e meet in human babies had to drink cow's milk. not their mother's milk, not dog melchor rapinoe, cow's milk. apparently nature intended humans to do that. now there are so many kinds of milk. you go to the supermarket and you stand there for 10 minutes i don't know to what the oatmeal, the macadamia the soy the chocolate lowfat? don't tell me there's nothing you can eat if you stop being dairy.

in the book jim and i offer tons of ways to help the rest to recognize where animals are selves. biology i 01. we are not gods and the animals aren't trash paid the animals are not like us. the animals are as. in fact there are so many ways to help that we list in the book it's like christmas at buckingham palace. there are all these gets under the tree and you can decide which one to open for us. their ideas for everyone even if you are poor as a church mouse, you are rolling in money or you're a student or professional, whatever. the animals need you in need your help and this book comes in two parts. who are the animals? what to do we know about them? there are so many extraordinary things that we don't know.

secondly knowing about them there are inspiring talents, their amazing ways that they communicate, their emotional lives, their love for each other and now what are we going to do about it and that's part two. by the way i did notice beyoncé and jay-z, they are helping. they have announced they are giving free concert tickets for life to people who become vegan. i looked at that and i saw and it said 30 years and i said you don't know vegans do you? we live much longer than that. there three quotations as sum up what the book is about. ankle frank wrote how wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world. albert einstein wrote, the world is a dangerous place not because of evil as much as because

people look on and do nothing. and my favorite, three things in life are important. the first is to be kind. the second is to be kind and the third is to be kind. thank you so much for coming tonight and braving the weather. i hope you enjoy the book. i really think you will end and if you know someone who has a dog or a hamster who hasn't gone beyond that this is the perfect gift for them. so buy a crate of them, keep them in the house and he will never have to think what on earth am i going to get that person for the occasion? please go to your local libraries and schools and asked him to carry it to. the reason i wrote this book is to open hearts and minds and to get people to make this a kinder

world. in fact to be animal kind. thank you very very much. [applause] >> a cappella books have copies of the book is for sale in the lobby. ingrid is going to be signing them and it's interesting in the book she says animals need all the friends they can get. this gives you a chance to know how to become a friend. let's thank ingrid one more time. [applause] and if you'll join us in the lobby, thank you all very much.

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