tv Washington Journal Reid Wilson CSPAN March 10, 2020 12:51pm-1:51pm EDT
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will be able to get the test and not worry about having to pay for. >> thank you all very much. thank you. thank you very much, everybody. [shouting] [shouting] >> if you have a package, presented. >> come on, let's go. [shouting] >> come on, let's go. [inaudible conversations] >> it's super tuesday to make an coronavirus is dominating the news so it's a good day to welcome back reid wilson to her desk, national political reporter for the hill and also author of the 2018 book academic, people and the global scramble to prevent the next
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outbreak. let's start with the less scary of the topics, six more states hold the democratic primaries today. what are the story lines use still trying to digest super tuesday from last week? >> i'm glad you said super tuesday to make because someone said many super tuesday and that's just tuesday. river number of states up tonight. the most critical one for both of the campaigns as they spent the last couple days is in michigan. it's a state bernie sanders one bat back in 2016. discover largest delegates, when hundred 25 up for grabs and it's a state that appears to be tilting towards former vice president joe biden. he's got the support of not just his former rival cory booker and, hares but also the governor of the state budget what brca1 her race back in 2018. the mayor of detroit, the lieutenant governors of young
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dynamic up and. establishment if you will in that state of the newly elected establishment seems to be going behind former vice president biden. biden is almost certainly going to win mississippi by a pretty handy margin tonight. it's a state with a significant african american population is going to make it more than half of the democratic primary electorate and that is similar to states joe biden one last week on super tuesday come states like north carolina, alabama, arkansas places were african american voters play a huge role. those voters are about a quarter of the electorate in michigan and missouri. another stick up tonight. missouri looks like it will go for joe biden as well. 68 delegates up for grabs there. the fascinating three states i'm going to watch tonight washington, idaho and north dakota. wentare three states that for bernie sanders but there is been some changes in the way they conduct their elections. because of the democratic national committee unity form d
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commission, two of the states held caucuses four is a correct way to allocate the delegates. this time they will hold primaries. bernie sanders one washington state caucuses by significant margin in 2016 but he lost the beauty pageant primary as they call itan which basically it waa meaningless primary. people just voted with that delegates being allocated but hillary clinton wanted it. that tells me sanders will have trouble with the broader democratic elections washington state as all mail in election. what has the ballot in the mail. they drop the in the secretary of state has advised people not to lick their envelopes so find another way to seal it. use a sponge or paper towel so that nobody spreads coronavirus. >> host: all the window the secretary of state quoted in "usa today" about the people who
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have to open those ballots and said all theen people are openig envelopes and processing the ballots are wearing gloves to try to not get in contact with potential antivirus pit. they washed and sickly, try to keep distance from the coworkers and that seems to be working okay. that's a statement from the secretary of state mr. president, i love to it. election workers are the best workers. of the six dates up to make him bernie sanders got four of them in 2016. it wouldn't surprise me if the only wins one of them tonight. north dakota primary which is a firehouse caucus which basically means is a party run primary. it's not like the iowa caucuses where people cigarette and argue with each other. it's more like you go in and cast your ballot and walk out. sanders more likely to do well there and some of the states but this is continuing a trend. we've seen sanders lose several states that he won in 2016 and is he's yet to win a state that he didn't win in 2016. sanders needs to grow and he
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needs to grow fast, otherwise this race will wrap up pretty quick. >> host: we've seen the ballot shrink. mike bloomberg, elizabeth warren and now no longer in the race. it's not as simple as mike bloomberg supported go to joe biden and elizabeth warren supporters go to bernie sanders mr. president, the moderate and progressive line was always too simplistic. as i was on betrayal this year i was in iowa seven times and i had a bunch of other early states as well, and i was more likely to come across somebody who is struggling to decide between pete buttigieg and elizabeth warren than somebody struggling to decide between warren and sanders or buttigieg or biden or something like that. that cross boundary line i think tells you about the people, but for think people are looking for, looking for somebody knew who could convince him he could beat president trump. none of those all called and second-tier candidates who are not out of the race made the
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the ones whoy were are best able to beat president trump, so everybody reverted and went back with former vice president biden. >> host: trying to understand the lanes. four you to go on this program there would be guests sitting in your position and college would say i'm for the bernie sanders but it doesn't get i'm voting for donald trump mr. president, there were a lot of those people. one of the consistent themes wet have seen in the elections it happened so far is bernie sanders is underperforming among rural voters. a lot of those with a bloke the system voters backof in 2016 who did, in fact, do that, who voted for sanders in the primary, voted for president trump in the general election and the state republican. i think they are never trump voters. bernie sanders rhombus is a a serious revelation to disrupt the systemt as that exist right now. that's what president trump promised. yes, of course, they differ on how to get there and which
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systems to blow up, but the fact is if they are looking for a revolution, they got with president trump. >> host: with bernie sanders making one of his closing arguments i had a super two, sto the polls in missouri. here's what he had to say. >> if you want to defeat trump, which all democrats do, a majority of independents, some republicans do, we are that camping. the second of all, what we also understand isnd that while it is absolutely imperative that we beat trump, we've go' to do more than that. [applause] we've got to transform this country so that we have an economy that works for you and you and you, not just wealthy
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campaign contributors. [applause] our government which he says that what we need is a multiracial, multi generational working-class movement of people coming together for justice. [applause] >> host: bernie sanders in missouri yesterday. reid wilson, you listen to these pages all the time. has anything changed much in his pitch since last week? >> guest: he's going much gravelly after biden. he recognizes the situation, that is path to the nomination has grown short and would has to do is take away support from former vice president biden and earn it himself. but the voters themselves seem to be rendering a verdict on that very question that sanders just broughtha up. we need to do more than just
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defeat president trump democratic voters are not interested in more than just beating president trump is the number-one thing i hear over and over is operable for anybody. in iowa the recited peoples jarred that would say in the schuman in 2020. the elected would like to joe biden based his entire campaign on and that almost sank his campaign turns outrg to be the thing that is now fueling his rise in these polls. .. >> caller: good morningjohn . i'd like to ask your guest a question concerning the long lines that people are, the
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six hour wait to vote in some of these states and i would urge all the people voting today to vote for bernie ersanders because he is definitely head and shoulders above joe biden without a doubt and if you could also comment on the number of democrats that are masquerading as republicans, like stephanie murphy down here in florida and mike quell a in texas. i resent the fact that these people say they are democrats and vote 70 percent of the time with donald trump. thank you very much. >> guest: bill, the concern about long voting lines is something people have brought up especially lately after the texas primary where when the last guy walked out of his polling place at one in the morning or something like
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that after waiting for so long and the notion of basically spending an entire workday waiting in line to vote is something that is a prettymassive problem in a state eslike texas that's going to be more in focus for the presidential contest than it c ever has been before . even states like california, there were long lines and we've seen the lia a county board of supervisors in particular calling up the election department there and trying to get assurances basically that those lines will not exist on election day. the difference is there will be three times as many people voting on election day as in the past as in the primary. in texas, the problem is with the counties and in a lot of these states, we are the only western democracy that has a disjointed voting system, a non-centralized voting system so it's not up to the federal government to regulate who and how voting operates, it's not even up to the states and alot of states, it's up to the county .
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254 counties and in some of them it's very clear they have not made the preparations for higher turnout so we will see if that gets changed. the legislature can't do anything to address that unless they're called into a special session because they're only in the odd-numbered years or they're already donebasically with their session . it's going to be up to counties to do some real work to get more polling places open. the state has recentlycracked down on the use of mobile polling places . which is used get more seniors and people who are far away from polling places to actually cast a ballot. we will see if that hasany difference . >> the question from tony on twitter coming off of your performance on super tuesday in some of these poles i had of super tuesday too especially in michigan, tony asked is that that mining has beenjudged electable or that bernie has been deemed unelectable ? >> guest: that's a great question and it's a little of
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both . and a lot of the coverage, i've been surprised by the ferocity of coverage after bernie sanders won the nevada caucuses . there were people not talking about him as a front runner as much as talking about how democrats were freaking out about how they needed to stop him. and there were some personalities on cable news went way over the line i thought in passing sanders as kind of threat. when it would have been much more appropriate just to cover him straight andtalk about what he was saying on the trail and what his appeal was to voters . the sanders has a lot of critiques of the media and the way the media treats him and he is not wrong on a lot of it . but biden clearly became the candidate who was the best able, best position to be president trump. that was his pitch from the absolute beginning and i'll say one of sanders the
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arguments is that he can turnout this huge wave of new voters who have never showed up to vote before . as it really born out, we haven't seen a surge of new voters in a few cases, the new voters are casting their first ballot in the democratic primary are voting for buying more than they are voting for sanders so that pitch that he is uniquely capable of turning out this way of voters who sat out the last time or who have never voted, i don't see a lot of evidence for it in the numbers. >> you see bernie sanders making his closing arguments in missouri, this is joe biden in michigan picking his siclosing arguments to state voters . >> over a week ago, the press and the pundits had declared this campaign. they then south carolina spoke. then super tuesday spoke. and the turnout was incredible. and now tomorrow, michigan, mississippi, missouri.
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north dakota, idaho, washington state, you will be heard and michigan, i'm counting on you in abig way . [applause] you know, sanders and one of us, god bless him, likes to say we're only going to be donald trump by generating excitement and turnout. guess what, on super tuesday, we turned out 70 percent more voters than ever voted there. and guess what? they're voting for us. north carolina, 19 percent more voters, texas 40 percent more voters. full, he's on . right, we're going to turn out a democratic party. we're going to turn out a party that is supported by the backbone of this country. look, the fact is that this movement we started and all of you are part of his
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generating incredible amounts of emotion around the country. folks, we can't create a movement without there being powered by people in the base of the democratic party. >> joe biden yesterday in michigan, reid wilson, the history of michigan in deciding primaries, this is the third contested democratic cycle in a row in which michigan has played a huge role, not necessarily a determinate role but a huge role in the calendar. back in 2008 michigan and florida violatednet national committee rules and held their primaries earlier than they should have . they encroached on south carolina and that sort of early statewindow the democrats try to protect . and so the dnc said their delegates would not be seated at the convention. hillary clinton who was a little behind the eight ball at the time onwent in and campaigned heavily in both states trying to find some sort of momentum to revive
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her primary campaign. barack obama stayed away and clinton both won both of those states, their delegates didn't count until it became clear obama was going to win. they struck a deal and the delegations basically got to show up anyway although their goals only counted for half of what they would have to read in 2016, bernie sanders was the one who was behind the eight ball and trying to find a sort of boost of momentum to get ahead of clinton and he found it in michigan. he stunned the polls, he came out ahead when nobody expected him to and that gave his campaign a boost and vaulted him through basically another month or so of contested primaries so michigan has played this determinative role a couple of times and i feel bad for my home state of washington which i think is, places like mississippi and idaho where and missouri where democrats
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have had less success on the statewide level lately but as far as have fared better so they're going to get left out . the front-page lead story if you will that michigan is now playing a big role for the third time in a row. >> from the wolverinestate volunteer state, one that is in chattanooga, good morning . >> morning. i am an african-american person who is a fan of bernie sanders. i wish that warren would support him with her delegates so we can move forward and when the coronavirus came and they said that we were prepared, healthwise to control a pandemic and this is from mister sanders now, it kind of made me look at joe biden as a person who showed definitely that we've been waiting a long time for help here in america.
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for people, working people, differentpeople . and that virus is the same thing for me. it's like you're not prepared and you don't want to be prepared. and i wish america will see that we need people like bernie sanders to stand up and do the right thing. and so with that i would like to say everybody, just put on your hats, put on your gloves and your sparks, tiger mouth up, go vote. have a great day. >> guest: good advice, wanda. i'll put on my virus had for a second, one thing wanda touches on that is 100 percent truth is the united states is not on the preparation it needs to do to battle a pandemic d. a pandemic flu, pandemic like a coronavirus, pandemic like ebola which is much harder to get than something like a
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coronavirus.the obama administration and congress after the evil outbreak in 2014 2015 past a $5.8 billion evil the supplemental bill and part of that bill funded what you can think of is basically a mini version of the centers for disease control and prevention and 49 other countries why are we spending money on health care in foreign countries? because we are a globalized world and people travel all over the place and if that outbreak happens in the congo or liberia or i don't know, wuhan china is going to come here eventually so why not spend money to a virus when it's small. china was one of those 49 countries and as a matter of fact the chinese version of the cdc sent representatives to west africa to basically shadow the cdc officials and learn how to control an outbreak because they are a global superpower as well, president obama called the
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president of china and the case that if you're going to be a superpower on the international stage you have to do things like ohelp out when there's apandemic virus . so basically, we were funding the many versions of the cdc and 49 countries, that's something that's run out and the 49 countries are down to 10 where doing something to help bolster their medical response and within funding that the effort to renew it didn't pass oncapitol hill, it was a one-time thing . >> it was a one-time measure in the overall a supplemental bill sponsored by, parking from iowa . and that's funding ran out. there hasbeen no real effort to reestablish it . kind of a shame but we do not spend the money preparing for a pandemic and i think it's human nature not to plan very well for the future. we're doing itagain, we should recognize we're doing it again and make the preparation . i talked to a smart global health security expert named
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rebecca katz at georgetown and she said we should not be hitting the panic button but we should be preparing for something of a pandemic nature that is happening right now and the very worst case scenario is that we spend a bunch of money improving our public health infrastructure.that sounds like a good idea. >> host: the book, 20/20 epidemic, evil and the scramble to prevent the next killer outbreak . we often talk to you mostly about politics when you come on but how did you get into the issue of writing about epidemics and pandemics ? >> i sat down with a guy who was senior in the american response to the evil outbreak and we were just having lunch and i said tell me some stories and the stories he was telling me was knocking my socks off so i thought this was a story we've got to tell and the american
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response to the evil outbreak at a moment when we are all at each other's throats and partisanship and polarization is as bad as it's ever been, this was a great moment to spotlight the fact that americans of all stripes did something so selfless that, put themselves in harms risk for people they never met and would have no reason to meet but it shows the bestof america . there's a scene when the response was winding down, president obama hosted a bunch of the survivors, the americans who had survived the ebola virus in the white house building and some of the officials were looking around and looking at kent brantley, an evangelical doctor who had volunteered in liberia who had come down with the disease and almost died, nancy reichel, an older woman and also an evangelical volunteer who he almost died. craig spencer, a young the liberal doctor from brooklyn and you know, a young asian american nurse, young african-american nurse . it's this huge cross-section
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of all of america that did this amazingly selfless thing and that's part of the story totell . >> host: now that coronavirus is here and evil was there, are we going to see the best amof america again? >> guest: in talking to people across the health security space, there is some optimistic science . americans are smart and if given the proper information about how toprotect themselves and importantly how to protect their communities that are going to do the right thing .they are going to engage in these social distancing practices, they're going to stay home from work when they can and a sickly they're going to do everything possible, we're all washing our hands a lot more now than we have in the past so they are smart, that's the good part if we are told what to do and more and more, we're seeing state and local governments providing that information. what you need to do and how you need to do it and this is an opportunity that we should all cease to come together more as a country and like i
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sound like i'm being too overly optimistic but if you have an elderly neighbor who o lives alone, check on him and make sure they're okay and they have the supplies they need the medicines that they need for the chronic diseases . one thing that is concerning to a lot of health professionals is that it may not be the coronavirus that kills the most people in this outbreak, just like in west africa it wasn't ebola that killed the most people, it was malaria and cholera and things that are treatable but when the health system collapses those things are going to get treated so today is not malaria in the united states is going to be hypertension and diabetes and heart disease and things like this that are treatable and under in normal health care system, the healthcare system goes overwhelmed and were going to have real problems so check on your neighbors, take this opportunity to come closer asa country . >> coming up on 9:30, the house will take you there for live gavel to gavel coverage
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area when they do come in, until then read wilson hill newspaper, author of the book epidemic evil and the global spread to prevent the next killer outbreak. john is in santa paula california, republican, good jomorning. >>. >> caller: i'd like to make a statement and ask a question. my statement would be i think that trump inadvertently has set us up to be better protected from the coronavirus by closing the borders and by bringing our companies into america. and i think our healthcare system either ties is doing just quite well. and the reason i'm saying that is because when you look at bernie sanders, with open borders, and you look at bernie sanders with those allies medicine, you have to think that well, what's italy with socialized medicine, they're getting clobbered. what's china withsocialized medicine and they're just getting clobbered . so we're dealing with 26
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steps out of 320 million people by puttingamerica first , trumps policy has had the unintended consequences coronavirus area but that's my statement and i'd like to make one other statement on building and getting the people to vote. it's my opinion that no one should vote unless they fill out an income tax form, whether you make no money or any money, you have to fill out that income tax form because 50 percent of americans don't. and if you can't fill out the tax form, then you can be colors. i remember they were giving out cell phones one year, giving out whatever they can get that boat. so you're dealing with an uninformed voter against the informed voter and i'd rather see the informed voters vote then uninformed voters that have been coerced.
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t>> guest: john, everybody has the right to vote and that's in the constitution. let me talk about the borders and the difference between countries here. you pulled up fethe johns hopkins form there that shows where the cases are and i think it's important to know that a larger number of cases is not evidence of a system, a healthcare system is not working and i want to take the example of south korea, is doing an incredible job fighting the virus because their testing people everywhere. their testing people in drive-through's and they conducted the last time i saw it was more than 100,000 tests and therefore they are funding a lot of cases . we are not doing 7500 guests and the number of those recovered taking us . >> guest: let's compare south korea to iran is a bad example because he ran his
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whole other half hour i don't want to get into but 7500 cases, only 54 debts. that is great evidence of a robust healthcare system that's doing a lot to get people in treatment early and therefore make sure they are not dying to that mortality rate is less than one percent . it's what, two thirds of a percent almost. just the back of the neck and back there. tin the united states we have done less testing, there are more test kits and it's an important distinction, when the president talks about million casket going out that's fantastic that we have to test but we don't have the ability to process the tests as fast as possible so if you or i get tested it doesn't do any good if it's sitting in a test you waiting to be processed or four or five days as we might get worse. the koreans have done an outstanding job of testing as many people as possible and
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getting those people in treatment early. that's evidence of a robust system, italy is doing the g e same thing, testing as many people as they can read and locking down the country so that they're trying to sort of stop the virus before it spreads further. >> italy the number is close to 9200 confirmed, 463 gets, the number of those officially recovered 724. >> guest: that is going to arrive before this whole thing is over but the fact is that a better mortality rate than we've seen in wuhan china or places like iran where we again may have. disaster coming down the pipe but just because there are more cases, that's not a sign of ill-equipped help system, it's a sign that their testing a lot and getting a lot of people in treatment, that's the sign of a good health system . >> jane, longwood florida, a democrat . >> you for taking my call. i just wanted to make one point mister wilson. whether you give people small or large metrics, it really
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doesn't matter when their ears are closed or they want to do is make a political point. i understand what you are trying to say and i truly appreciate arguments for that. my question is is that, the reason i'm calling is because somebody did say something about stephanie murphy. i happen to be stephanie murphy's constituents, i happen to be a democrat, i happen to be an old hippie was 66 years old so i think real umbrage when somebody doesn't call me a real democrat area. >> my issue is really not stephanie murphy. but the division not only betweenrepublicans and democrats , but between democrats within the old party and i think it's systemic of what's actually happening. we have to grant to one person and one person alone.
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debernie sanders is a great guy. socialist programs are idyllic and utopian and god, i wish we could have them. i really do. i have seen arguments that economically and mathematically that might not be the case but if he became the nominee, i would vote for him. if joe biden becomes the nominee i will vote for that because the truth is,like you said before , any city and being, my dog, my cat or myself i will take before donald trump. >> host: who do you think will win the democratic primary in florida next week ? >> caller: please. after mister sanders said the literacy program thing which goes to mussolini running the trains on time, who do you think ?
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really. that's a fake calmly. >> guest: jan's political out analysis there is probably correct on florida. one thing that jumps out is when people talk about the divisions within the party, these two political parties are more homogeneous ideologically than they pretty much all most have been. consider even 25, 30 years ago when there were southern democrats. richard shelby was a democrat, senator from alabama got elected as a democrat and switched to republican when bill clinton got elected . then when bill clinton was the governor of arkansas and he was a centrist, the product of the democratic leadership council going back further, there were effectively for parties in congress. there were southern democrats who are conservative and northeast and western democrats, rockefeller republicans who were liberal and relatively liberal and the more conservative republicans out west.
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those distinctions are gone and now a democrat from alabama is going to vote the same way as a democrat from my home town of seattle and a republican from seattle is going to vote the same way as a republican from alabama so we've erased the lines and the differences ideologically within each party are tiny. >> host: warehouse: peterson fallen? he's running in a district donald trump won by 30 points . >> guest: i don't think has voted for a democratic candidate for president in a long time. ironically in a state that voted for a democrat longer than any other state so peterson is a democrat of a different era. he's got a good shot at winning reelection if he did not win reelection, whatever republican won their primary certainly win that seat but peterson is run a very rare members of congress have
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built himself a reputation that transcends party. there are a lot of those left around the country. >> is there another one off the top of your head western mark. >> peking from new york and a district immigrants are winning, he's retiring this year. democrats have a good shot of winning his district but he's the one who left them running . >> john, republican, good morning. >> good morning. thank you for c-span, i think the program is very informative and would encourage more people to tune in but i do have a quick statement to make about bernie sanders. it's a question and then i have something to say about the coronavirus, the question to read i have is in your research and the talks with different people, what are some of the reasons they say that they support bernie sanders is because bernie sanders whether we like it or not, he's out of touch with even his own party, with some of the policies he's proposing like free
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healthcare for all because it just can't be done but i talked to a lot of the people here in palm beach, especially a lot of the older cuban people and they'll tell eoyou socialism has never worked and then the statement i have on the coronavirus, i think we all do need to come together on no matter what political party or in just to get things done, some things are not a republican or democrat issue and this is one of them. weused to do it though , in my hometown of phoenix, we would come together in and help each other, check onthe elderly relatives . and so forth. and little things like that we can accomplish a lot and that's all i have to say. >> host: thank you john. why sanders? people i talked to at sanders rallies and i went to a bunch ke of them in iowa, they want a revolution read the system is back against the little guy, against those who are not powerful. and it's sanders message.e. i have found a just a huge
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number of people who gravitate to that. and in fact, to his point, the argument that he makes, there are a lot of people who are coming, who come out for him because of him. and would not show up for any other politician anywhere. i mean, sanders attracts a group of people who want to see the system blown up and refashioned in their own image. or in a way thatwould better cater to them. as to your point on checking in on your neighbors, excellence, i love to hear it . let's all do that . >> talking about minnesota, we will head to indianapolis . >> good morning, thank you for taking my call and thank you for such a wonderful that you present. i don't know how people can continue to defend president trump with his most ignorant kind of conduct regarding so many issues. but about the virus, for
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example. he's come out and said people can even go back to work doing this time and it will just go away and then they him. it's indefensible. the other aspect is the people that are panicking about realism, you already have socialism here. public schools, roads, public hospitals. i can go on down the list. most people have no clue what socialism is. they just regurgitate and don't read or anything. >> host: we talked in the first hour of our program about president trumps proposed economic response to the coronavirus, some of the issues you raise.a payroll tax cut, relief for allied utworkers, impacted industries and for small businesses, you support those? >> i support it, it's late and there was a comment made
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that people don't prepare. obviously south korea was prepared because they run so many tests it's incredible and it tells you about not been prepared and that he allocated this money after we were in already in crisis and then for the people that are talking about not testing evil that are detained, it's just an ignorant idea because the people can go back, spread the virus, wherever they come from and it reenters us in larger quantities.s i>> so there are a couple of things that a president as a limited supply of and can never get back to one of them is time. hisown time , there and the clock is always getting whether it's afour-year plot or any your clock, we don't know until halfway through .
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the other is trust and if a president squanders his, the trust that americans have in him to handle a crisis, he might never recover and we saw that with george w. bush. who after hurricane katrina and after mishandling what happened in new orleans, his approval rating fell and they never came back. i'm not into calling this somebody's katrina or something like that but if this response goes really poorly for president trump, his solid base may start to crumble the fast. >> who are the trusted government officials during ebola and are any of them still around ? >> there were two faces of the response. one was tom friedman, director of the centers for disease control, is running a global nonprofit on health security, i got to him on a story, spent an hour trying
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to learn lessons from the outbreaks that he had been with his career whether it was drug-resistant tuberculosis or the aids crisis or h1 and one. sars, mers, this is not the first outbreak and there will be more in the future. so we need to learn the lessons anyway, he's out of government . the one still in government is a guy named anthony county and you see him on the sunday shows her standing next to vicepresident pants are in their briefings . he is the director of the national institute for allergy and infectious diseases. campus up here at the national institutes of health . ishe's been there since the reagan administration. and he is the guy who thinks takes these really propagated scientific questions and translate them for us and when a virus comes out and hits, he shows up on the sunday shows. he's got a very distinctive brooklyn accent. he is apparently, was apparently back in the day alone yankees fan in doctor
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territory . but i don't know if that hasn't won his work in the future but he was a world leading aids researcher who worked his way up through nih. there are not many people in the world who have treated more aids patients than he has. he is just one of those people who brims with exudes confidence. and he has played that role again. there were some early concerns that he had not been allowed to speak as freely as he should. he has now started doing so the trump administrations hopefully request because he is the expert in all of this stuff and yet, he is warning. >> i think it's fair to warn about the dangers of the coronavirus, not to scare anybody to spur people to prepare and to spur people to take the steps they need to protect themselves like as simple as washing your hands and covering your mouth when you cough and maybe what do
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we call it, elbow down. instead of shakinghands . i'm cool with just a way, the elbow thing is weird but we won't do that on the way out. >> this story i would point viewers towards the headline public health experts warn of major disruptions from coronavirus. it came out on saturday. the author read wilson with us this morning. this is joyce in delaware, republican. good morning. >> how are you today?re i've been listening to the show. this whole thing started with the democrats, another propaganda and donald trump is doingeverything he can . vice president pants is doing everything he can. they brought in the leading people i think it's a scare tactic, it's all about the election and the republican people iknow are second that up with it . >> guest: i hope it doesn't actually become partisan. the coronavirus is gary and it's going to affect a lot of
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people . it already hasinfected more than 100,000 people around the world . the notion that this is a scare tactic is troubling to me because we have the greatest health care system in the world, we can stop something like this takes a concerted effort jan just doctors and nurses to take our own effort to engage in the practices that keep us safe. and engage in the practices that we teach our cobblers. 3 1/2-year-old at home and i'm trying to teach him to wash his hands and it reminds me rthat i don't wash my hands as much as i should know i'm doing and no scare tactic, no reason to be afraid, but reason to take precautionary steps and to do things like wash your hands and stay home when you are sick. >> the dashboard that you'll be seeing around the news, johns hopkins as pointed out that it's about 116,000 confirmed cases, just shot on the hundred 16,000 confirmed cases. over 4000 vethe vast majority
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on mainland china. rethe total recover number, that number in green to the right of your screen into going to take up. and a good number to take up, 64,000. >> that in the bottom right there, the orange line had the orange line is the case count in china and youcan see it's bending downward . there's a bell curve that happens with infections and that case curve is starting to bend down which means they are experiencing you are and fewer cases which is great news that the source of the outbreak is starting to show fewer cases, but they took really extreme steps that are not available to the united states and we're not going to lockdown whole cities and prevent people from traveling. that's not what we do which means it's incumbent on us, the people in our communities to take steps that are simple like watching our hands and staying home when you are sick . that's our version of the
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measures that they have taken in china. we have to do it on our own though and americans are smart, we're smart enough to do this if people tell us. >> host: williston vermont, this is jeanette, ademocrat , good morning. >> caller: yes i am, high. >> host: you are on with reid wilson. >> caller: very good. i'm a native vermonter and i worked and volunteered with bernie sanders with 30 years ever since he was the mayor and then a big issue came up in vermont, burlington vermont and it was the f 35 and the f 35 is capable of carrying nuclear missiles. and we are in a small community, i live about five miles from burlington and the housing, bernie sanders explored the f 35. thehousing here, we have a oshortage of housing .
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they wanted the f 35's to be located here and bernie sanders was the main leader of this. we had to take out at least $10 million worth of housing, middle to low income housing because bernie wanted f 35. well, the f 35's are totally capable of carrying nuclear weapons. totally capable of that. and bernie was for key, he always said i don't want the proliferation of nuclear weapons and we said bernie, you can't have it both ways. he goes know, they're coming, end of story and all these people that have supported bernie, that's why he only got 50 percent of the vote this time for the primaries. because people, he will talk on one side of his mouth and he will say another thing to
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his constituents. >> host: this is the story from july of last year, the cnbc story, antiwar candidate bernie sanders faces backlash over the $1.2 trillion war machine he brought to vermont read that story into the issue the caller brings up. >> guest: in my non- presidential life i cover what happens everything outside the beltway, what happens in state politics and to jeanette's point, one of the scenes that's cropping up in cities around the country is a lack of housing, a lack of affordable housing and not just talking about seattle and san francisco, talking about des moines iowa. minneapolis is seeing its rent skyrocket and i'm sure in places like burlington two. we are experiencing a housing crisis around the country, one that is increasingly the focus of state and local governments. i talked to the speaker of the iowa state house the
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other day a couple weeks ago and he's really worried about this housing as a sort of on economic growth in iowa. if you can't have workers moving in to fill jobs, those companies can't get bigger and if they don't have anywhere to live there not going to move in sort of a domino effect and are going to see a lot more elected officials the public and oidemocrat attention to the housing supply in coming years and i feel like that wasn't on tangent for the rest of the conversation we had . >> we got eight minutes left in our conversation, the house and ready to come in this morning. live for gavel to gavel coverage in the house does and until then your phone calls as we talk with reid wilson this morning. denise, democrat, good morning. >> caller: yes, good morning. thank you. hello? >> host: go ahead denise. >> caller: i have to comments, one about the coronavirus and one about the voting.
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as far as the coronavirus, i'm a little confused on why we are being told it's okay to fly when your guest just said earlier that the biggest problem we have with this virus in order to contain it is testing, testing. there is nobody being tested, why would it be safe to fly regardless of what age you are ? i have a problem with that and as far as voting, i like biting. i trust him. i believe in his track record but i'm just a little fed up that he matches up against donald trump unless his debate is attacking his policies, his mannerism, his character and all the things that he did not do as president. and one other thing on the coronavirus with the president, why is he walking
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around shaking people's hands after mark what type of leadership is that you shake people's hands during this outbreak. >> host: thanks for bringing up several topics. >> guest: shaking hands at the rallies, i wish he'd stop that . that's the one thing that, let's stop shaking hands for a little while. that's atotally reasonable step to take , it doesn't costanybody anything . a llbut anyway. on the air travel, >> there's a picture that's gotten a lot of attention and the video of it as well . his on the washington post, the president shaking hands supporters in orlando on monday, that from the washington post. >> i hope he's just bathing in curella deville days or hand sanitizer of anybrand that works . because god, it would not be good if, i'm not even going to go there. one interesting thing that denise talk about, the
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challenges that joe biden might have to baiting, here's a bizarre overlap between the two things that we've been talking about today . the guy who teaches press out to debate hoin high pressure situationsis a guy named ron klein , former chief of staff to joe biden and al gore, also president obama's ebola's are so the guy, if you're reading washington post op-ed about the coronavirus, the appropriate response, look at the byline, it very well might be ron klein, a guy who just rated a governmentwide response. >> host: why did he getpicked for that ? >> the obama administration criticize as he did not have a medicalbackground or an epidemiological background but that's not what is required for a job like this . what we need the most for an effort that is whole of government and across departments and agencies and things like that is somebody could understand how government works and who to call agency tax to release
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their funding for their stockpile or whatever and transported across the country to where it's needed or to get bureaucrat wife of his rear end to do what needs to be done. he understands how to get the levers of the working and that's what should be most in a case like this is not a medical response, it's a government response and the government basically was acting to bolster the medical and public health systems. you don't need a medical expert to do that, you need somebody who knows how to get supplies on the government and the scientists do their work, just make sure they are supported as well as possible . >> host: coronavirus likely to be a subject talked about on the floor of the house. we live for gavel to gavel continue watching on c-span3 at 10 am, heading over to one of the subcommittees of the
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house appropriations committee, a hearing with the director of the centers for disease control, robert redfield will be testifying there and you can also watch at cspan.org and listen on the free c-span radio app. we should remind viewers that tonight our coverage of the results of the candidate speeches again that 9 pm here on c-span so we hope you join us for that period, for one or two more phone calls for the house comes in with reid wilson. john andwoodberry new jersey, a republican, go ahead . >> good morning. >> are you there? >> what your question after mark. >> the question is, obm keeps saying they don't have money to pay the bills. why doesn't president trump reinstate the corporate tax and make it retroactive to 2006. >>.
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>> host: not something republicans typically do, increasing taxes on a resurrected way but that's going to be a conversation we will see during the general electionwhether it's biden or sanders who bases trump . the role of taxes and who should be paying how much. >> brooklyn new york new york, this is marlon, hello. >> good morning. >> i just had a quick comment,of course thanks for doing this, i appreciated . but really, your comments that mister wilson on americans are smart enough, and that only china or a country like china would see someone shut down its country which obviously wouldn't be the case in something like italy, italy more limited than china but my question to you would be what's it going to take for americans and i hate to be polarizing on this but
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americans that support trump so heavily, what will it take for them to realize that coronavirus isn't a political tool and that's something that we haveto be worried about . >> last 30 or 45 seconds. >> guest: i think the vice president is increasingly delivering a message of prepare and get ready. the appropriate messages are coming out of this administration, maybe not from the president himselfbut at least from his people , from vice president pants, from doctor redfield . so the message is getting across and if trump supporters or frankly anybody else, listen to vice president pants, he's delivering good advice about things like washing your hands. i feel like i'm repeating myself, a home when you're sick and those messages are getting across the red i hope everybody listens to them and pays attention because they are coming from democrats, republicans, career officials
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and politicians and it's good advice, let's relisten to it. >> host: reid wilson, national reporter for the hill. we will see his work talking about all the topics we covered today, thank you for your time. >> guest: thank you for having me, john. >> host: we will have you back again. >> follow the federal response to the coronavirus at cspan.org/coronavirus. you can find hearings with key public health officials and hearings with public specialists. review the latest evidence anytime at cspan.org/coronavirus. >> the senate is in recess for their weekly party lunches but lawmakers will be back at 2:10 eastern for debate. president trump is on capitol hill meeting with senator about the coronavirus response read this afternoon the chamber will continue work on a package of
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environment and energy changes as well as another bill repealing a new education rule dealing with student loan debt forgiveness. follow the senate live on c-span2 when lawmakers returned . >> it comes out to be a campaign in which we have one candidate who is standing up for the working class and the middle class, we're going to win thatelection . >> for those who have been knocked down, counted out, left behind, this is your campaign . >> the presidential primaries and caucuses continue tonight for 6 states including idaho, michigan, mississippi, missouri, north dakota and washington. watch our campaign 2020 coverage of the candidate speeches and results and i live on c-span, cspan.org or listen from wherever you are with the free c-span radio app .
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yesterday officials from the world health organization held a briefing on the world wide response to the coronavirus. we hear about recovery and mortality rates, the risk to the elderly and healthcare workers and how other countries are managing the virus. it took place in geneva switzerland. we will show you as much as we can before the senate returns at 2:10 eastern. >> apologies for this delay, i'd like to welcome mike to join us and we will start our press briefing on covid-19 while we wait. i know that we are planning from now on to have three press conferences per week, monday, wednesday and friday so it will be a change from what we had so far but obviously we have to remain flexible . this can changeagain but for the time being we are looking into monday, wednesday and friday . i will give the floor
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