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provider.. >> were joined next by heather drevna she is the vice president for rape, abuse, and incest national network or rainn.an thanks for being with us this morning tells a little bit about your organization and that mission. so it is the largest antisexual violence organization in the nation we were founded in 1994 primarily do four things. we support victims of sexual assault through hotline ability 24/7 with three confidential support and you can go to rainn.org. we educate and help survivors

by helping them get justice we help companies and organizations improve the way they prevent and respond to sexual violence. >> host: in a day, typically how many a day how many phone calls and inquiries does your organization receive? >> guest: we receive about 25000 inquiries all across our victim services programs. montht for that several hundred calls and online chat sessions. day. >> were having you on this one to talk about sexual abuse, but to get your thoughts every actions to the allegation against former vice president joe biden about an alleged sexual assault he is a senator. what has been your group's position on that? >> guest: we believe every allegation of sexual assault deserves to be investigated and taken seriously. we are urging everyone to cooperate in this investigation. it is good vice president biden has spoken out already on the investigation is calling for the release of records.ue we encourage him to continue to do so and to make himself

available as well as any staff who might be able to shed light on these at allegations. >> host: the former vice president speaking out answering questions last friday on the morning joe here's part of what the vice presidentt had to say. >> you are unequivocal bowl back in 2019 during the kavanaugh controversy and hearings you said that women should be believed. you said this, for a woman to come forward in glaring lights of focused national you've got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she is talking about is real. whether or not she forgets the facts, whether or not it has been made worse, or better over time. she is going to be going on national television on sunday, tara reade is coming forward in the glaring light to use your words, should we not start off with the presumption that the essence of what she's

talking about is real? she says you sexually assaultede her. >> looked, from the very beginning i have said believing women is taking their claim seriously. when she steps forward and then that it. look into it. that's true in this case as well paired women have a right to be heard, and the press should rigorously investigate claims they make for it i will always uphold that principle. but in the end, in every case, the truth is what matters. and in this case, the truths are false. so is it? possible these claims are held in an nda? you have an nda signed by women employed by you? >> no one has ever signed an nda i've never asked anyone to sign an nda there are no nba's in my case, none.

>> host: heather drevna of rainn what evidence can the vice president provides help clear this allegation? >> tara reade's credibility is something everyone will need to decide foror themselves. unfortunately in many cases of sexual violence there is not clear evidence for the vice president so far as being is forthcoming and requesting any complaints that might have been filed, but those complaints tear reid said might not include the sexual assault allegation. we can only encourage him to continue to be forthcoming, to continue to release any records that may be relevant. again as i said her i credibility is something everyone is going to have to need to judge for themselves buried whatis i can say is we shouldal not dismiss someone's allegations is false nearly because the story has changed or what they have told audiences is different at times. we need to talk to her explanation of what she described lester don't all match what she's describing now and what the complaint doesnt it matter she's alleging now pretty also need to take

into account she's told some friends and familyy members at the time of the alleged assault. it is not unusual for a survivor to take years to process thexp trauma that they have experience. juste because they have not comported publicly, immediately after an event may occurred isev not mean they did apnot happen. see what our guest is heather drevna she is the vice president for rainn we welcome your calls and comments if you're in the eastern time zone (202)748-8000, mountain pacific (202)478-8001. if you are a sexual assault survivor that line is (202)748-8002. we welcome your comments. you mention the word credibility a couple of times prayed that was a difficult thing when you are up against this, someone who is a well-known politician with years of senate and the service in the senate matching your credibility as a person who alleges the sexual violation up against a

powerful politicalca figure. >> guest: it is. and unfortunately that is the situation many people who are coming forward with allegations are facing. it's one of the reasons that many people will hold onto what is happened to them foreo years. >> host: the u.s. senate, the secretary of the senate yesterday declined to release the information on the allegation information by tara reade. alex bolton reporting the secretary of the senate inform the former vice president that it has quoted no discretion to disclose the existence of former aide, terror reads complaint of sexual assault against the then senator in 1993. aithey say biden gave his first interview on friday denying tara reade's allegation that against a wallr and sexually assaulted her in 1993, when she worked her him. on friday, he wrote to the secretary of the senate, julie

adams asking that quote you take or direct whatever steps are necessary to establish the location of the records of this office. once they have been located to direct the search for the alleged complaint and to make public the results of that search. the secretary saying it has no discretion to disclose any such information as requested for the vice president. as this one of those cases where that information would bebe helpful? >> guest: it would. but ofse course the senate needs to follow the law. if current law prevents disclosure we need to see that so they can release the record. stu went let's hear from richard in st. petersburg, florida, richard, go ahead. >> caller: i am to understand or misunderstand, mr. biden, the house of the university of delaware andta furthermore he is most reluctant for any search of even the dear ladies name

to be done on those papers. he referred to such things as though there are things about putin and other world leaders. why on earth cannot a search for her name be segregated from any legitimate concerns he may have of other things being brought out in those papers? >> host: richard in florida. heather drevna any comments? >> guest: that's a great question, richard, that something we have urge the biting campaign to allow. is just to search the records for her name it anything that might be related tod it rather than opening them up publicly. >> host: you mention this before in terms of it takes a while for sexual assault -- it can take a long time for sexual assault victim to she haswhat he or gone through. in this case the allegation was made in 1993. how does your organization help victims, alleged victims,

work through some of thatt processing? >> guest: the national sexual assault hotline is available 24/7. we hear from survivors across a very wide spectrum. about one third of the calls we receive are from someone who is in crisis, an event has just occurred or occurred in the last 48 hours. they are typically looking for medical care. how did they get a rape kit exam for instance if that something they want to do? what are their options for reporting to police? the other two thirds of the collars might be anywhere along the spectrum of their healing. healing has no timetable. it looks different for every survivor. it may be five, ten, 20 or 30 or feel 40 or 50 years even through their journey. after the hearings for brett kavanaugh for instance, we had the biggest spike in call volume we ever experience in 48 hours part over three and a% increase in calls.ny

hany of the people calling the hotline were divulging what had happened to them for the very first time. efor most of those collars it happened decades in the past. >> will hear from beverly prayed we havee a line if you are a sexual assault survivor it's (202)748-8002. beverly from california. >> caller: hi good morning. my comment is -- i wanted to say it sorta pissed me off when these women come out years and years later. i was 11 years old and assaulted and i immediately told my mom. the person that is sexually assaulted me was jailed. if i was 11 years old and i had common sense to tell someone, which was my mom, i don't know why an adult would wait years and years and come out. i just don't't believe the accusations against mr. biden.

>> host: heather drevna, tell us in addition to the biden allegation tell us what are some of the reasons you hear from people on the phone that they don't, sometimes you say it's years or decades later, others?y don't tell >> guest: beverly, first i went to sam sorry this happens you knew you had supportive adults in your life to turn to and should you seriously and were able to get you help get your perpetrator behind jail. unfortunately, fory far too many people that is not the situation. there's a great element of shame involved, especially in child sexual abuse. there is also an element of fear and retribution in many casess where the perpetrator has power over the victim. for these and many other reasons, survivors take longer to comes forward. they also process trauma differently. there has been a lot of studies on psychology of trauma, looking at the way people focus on events, how they block out different pieces of the events to help

them cope. it can take years for them to process that trauma and feel comfortable actually talking about it. >> host: did your organization come out with the allegations against now justice kavanaugh? >> guest: yes we did. when the doctor raised her allegations recalled for them to be vetted and as we have done with the allegations to president trump. >> host: the tweet here says doctor ford volunteered to take a polygraph test. do encourage that? >> guest: we encouraged terror read to take whatever steps she feels are necessary to take to support her claim. >> host: to robert in st. petersburg, florida, go ahead robert. >> caller: good morning, my instinct tells me mr. biden did not commit this offense. and by the way, i am not a supporter of mr. biden, nor am

i a democrat. i'd not only voted for trump, i have sent him a couple small campaign contributions. mymy thinking is mr. biden is a sophisticated, intelligent, thoughtful man. and men come i don't know how to say it but are trying to get where they want to go do not approach women this rudely. they develop an interest in a woman, they develop friendships and flattery and so forth. that is why i simply don't believe these allegations aree true. i do b believe mr. biden and i would say he's a man, but i just simply don't believe that he is that crude. >> host: okay robert, heather drevna any response? >> guest: it's understandable that many people are struggling with the

allegations. and the credibility of vice president biden for themselves we need all the facts to be out there for folks to make those judgments. >> host: let's it from cookie in boston, massachusetts. >> caller: hello good morning i just got one question. how come nobody went after donald trump when donald trump was doing what he did to women and what he was talking about women like they was nothing? did nobody go after him like this? so is theats problem? >> host: to be clear with you, cookie, we have had segments on those allegations when those happens, will hear from maria and los angeles, california. go ahead. >> caller: hello good morning. i wanted to ask a question regarding the vetting process. day understand mr. biden and his team say he was invented when he was trying to bees vice president.

however, brett kavanaugh has been vetted six times by the fbi and there were never any allegations arise during that time. why won't joe biden consent to an fbi investigation for proper vetting? and to the woman before gentlemen, polygraph test is not one 100% guaranteed which is why they are not allowed in trials. so polly graph tests are not either women should be believed or not to be believed, they can't have it both ways. thank you. >> host: heather drevna is this a case where fbi investigation is warranted? >> guest: the democratic party's going to have to decide what it wants to do here. we just want all of the facts out in the open. tara reade has filed a complaint with the department and the district of columbia. that will be the first step as far as law enforcement.

steve went in of her responsibility for cooperating people she had told this story too, what is the responsibility off the person who makes an allegation? how much evidence or how much supporting materials is that person expected to provide? >> guest: women are not anymore or any less truthful than men. it's not everyone is automatically believe that we need to take every allegation seriously. if someone alleges they were sexually assaulted we owe it to them to investigate it in any means at our disposal. as i noted earlier, many times with these allegations are not raised until years after the fact. victims come to terms with what is happened to them. there also may be a lack of evidence we need to look at what she said not just now but what she said to people at the time, any reference the biden campaign can provide any

records any of his papers might provide as well. >> host: in general and in the case of the biden allegation do you think thee mede to movement has shined a spotlight much more seriousness on these allegations? >> guest: we are happy to see that sexual violence has become a more acceptable topic in the national conversation. the national conversation and tone about sexual violence has changed dramatically in the last three years since the first allegations were raised against harvey t weinstein in the mede to movement really took off. we have seen incredible promotion at the workplace level of sexual harassment policies designed to stop incidentsst like this. to protect men and women from harassment in the workplace. all of this work is far too important. we have come so far in the last two and half years to let politics get in the way of that progress.

>> host: you mentioned the uptick in reports during the brett kavanaugh hearings and testimony. what about overall since the harvey weinstein case? have the numbers gunned down in terms of sexual abuse allegations? >> guest: the numbers to the hotline have not decreased. in fact they have stated a very high level. prior to the mede to movement in the harvey weinstein allegations, we were helpingag on average about 15000 people a month. that averages out 25000 people a month and it has stayed there over the last three years. l >> host: let's go to detroit, michigan. let the glory is next go ahead you're on the air. >> caller: high the reason the mede to movement has freed us to open up our minds and our hearts about what happened to us, when assault is penalized in the regular world,

so-called, i think the so-called abuse in the marriage and wherever else it should be penalized. i think that biden should be seriously s investigated because they have a reason to fear being investigated. i think about women don't give these accusing of rape and whatever else have happened to them -- they do give it seriously. you know, biden should be investigated. he should be investigated as far and as hard as the supreme court nominee was. we should have it on television, just like his was. this guy is getting away with murder with -- and i do mean

that symbolically. >> host: heather drevna what is asked about the coronavirus pandemic reports of domestic abuse are out there what about sexual abuse? what is your organization hearing? >> guest: unfortunately for many people especially children experiencing sexual abuse, stay at home does not mean safe at home. we expect that when all this is over we will see dramatic increases in reports of intimate partner violence and child sexual abuse especially. once the stay-at-home orders went into place in mid-march, we started closely looking at the hotline data we saw a dramatic shift in who is contacting the hotline paid for the first time ever int march more visitors to the online hotline were minors. of those miners who were talking about coronavirus and

concern, 67% identified theirpe perpetrator is a family member. 79% of his children said they were living with a perpetrator. more than half of those sessions are staff walks in through disclosure related planning and steps they might take to report their abuse. for intent of the sessions include discussions on how to plan for their safety and how perpetrator or void thefi perpetrator. and in one out of five sessions are staff actually helped connect them to authorities and stayed on the line with them until the authorities arrived. >> host: one more follow-up on twitter, roger tweets whenever allegations like these are brought forward both accuser and accused should be subject to polygraph without omexception. let's go to stephanie calling from cherryville new jersey. good morning. >> caller: i would like to say we've all seen ample video of joe biden in a properly touching women and all kinds of ways in public.

that was in public. so just imagine what he was capable of doing in private with no 1s around with a subordinate who had a career she was pursuing. so i believe her. i believe her just because some of the democratic women now say oh that's not the joe biden that i knew, okay, this happened many, many years ago. people change, men change. they evolve. we have even seen recent video of him inappropriately touching women. i don't know that he has changed it all. >> host: art stephanie in new jersey, heather drevna? >> guest: thank you stephanie allegations of sexual assault no matter who has made them or who they are involved deserved to be taken i seriously.

sexual assault of any kind is not acceptable cannot be tolerated. these allegations must be taken seriously as are any other allegations. we have come too far in her understanding of this issue just to dismiss someone's allegations because the accused says they did not happen. at the same time, everyone deserves due process in their investigation. and vice president biden deserve superintendent agenda fan himself as well. >> host: see your website rainn is the hotline number is 1-800-656-4673. heather drevna thank you for being on with us this morning. >> guest: thank you for having me. >> "washington journal" primetime special evening edition of the "washington journal" on the federal response of the coronavirus pandemic. guests are harvard school of medicine doctor george daley, jennifer meso assistant

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scholars. >> sunday night on q&a look at americans presidents of the lens of the books favored with craig fairman. >> the stories often been you sought in that piercing quote that kennedy's father was one pulling the strings by the scene but that's not true, jack kennedy wanted that pulitzer prize is meant to deprive times he brought it up he told another story i'd rather win a pulitzer prize and the president. so because he had the strong desire for literary fame, even though we didn't really what to do literary work, he got himself the prize in a new york city, washington d.c. people have been gossiping did kennedy really write that book? my wonder who wrote that book i wonder how much money they're getting others royalty checks, within the pulitzer change the equation. think it made a moral question an ethical question. leaders realizes to when i was at the kennedy presidential library i looked to the letters kennedy was receiving a 1957 and my brains were sending him letters,

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