summer on "c-span2". >> the revolutionary king, he starts talking about using non- violence as early as 1985 after the rebellion. to paralyze cities to leverage non- violent civil disobedience. in transform their democracy. in the call for the same thing which malcolm criticized. he wanted a display of civil disobedience. in the racial status quo of the united states of america. >> university professor neil just love, on his book, stored in the shield. about the activism and conversion ideologies of malcolm x and martin luther king jr. the importance of the thinking on the fight for civil rights in

america. q&a on sunday night at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. david johnson joining us from new york this morning. executive director of the black justice coalition. who are you funded by what is yourju mission. david johns: i appreciate that. as the nation's only rights organization intentional and unapologetic intersections of racial equities and lg be qe quality. where all people and really all black, and in terms of acronyms and to acknowledge the case often used as a political identifier for a white gay man. so much of our work is by connecting with the grass roots organizations that are working to keepp a unique and often overlooked lease on black square people. host: was involved in the

organization. david johns: a lot of artwork is working with members of congress and congressional black caucus. elected officials throughout the were there significant percentages are proportions of blackk square people. we do a lot of work in community around health and hiv and public health. acknowledging a lot of increased needs in the african american community. also in partnership with hbcus which kate for 12 schools throughout the country. and with organizations and institutions that are seeking to be better about making for both black people and black queer people. host: the house side for democrats to come up with the justice and police act of 2020. it will get worked up here in less than an hour before the house committee . 20 think of the legislation. david johns: i think it is incredibly important. and as responsive to the point

that which we p are in the movement for radically inclusive social justice. to be clear the conversations acknowledging violence and violence in black people and queer people have experienced at the hands of police and other sanctioned actors. they have been happening for as long as african-americans have been brought to the country as enslaved people. so it is important for not only for the house to continue to do their work but to also for the members of the senate who have not yet signaled that they are in position to take up and support the legislation. also act responsibility. but there sometime. host: a draft of his legislation, restricts chokehold use by reducing federal funds to state and local department have abandoned the tactic pretty increases funding for police body camera spring reporting uses that causes death or serious injury pretty requires

state to provide data on no block warrants. what you like of what they are proposing and wouldn't you agree with what has been put their . david johns: i think that is fairly comprehensive in acknowledging a lot of the challenges that black people have seen in the percent of justice is. they have been murder by cops quite frankly. and ensuring that there are no block warrants in response to what we saw happening to breonna taylor, ahmaud arbery and being sure that the police are wearing body cams and the questions that it exists around her murder for example. requiring the police department that continued to engage in type of behavior and using maneuvers that they should not be using that have been banned and a lot of police departments across the country quite frankly is incredibly important. as a relates to a larger conversation that people aremp having about divesting resources

from the police department and officers who are often charged with should not otherwise be responsible for because they are not experts and braided and investing into that community led interventions and responses to the needs that communities have that again not often not met. by experts but often met by unnecessary police force. host: for viewers coming to be able to watch the house marco been house judiciary committee andd democratic proposal here in c-span. 10:00 a.m. eastern time. also the wes rated and listenedh a free c-span radio app. "c-span2", at 9:30 a.m. eastern time, senator tim scott along with that majority leader mitch mcconnell will unveil their legislation for the republicans and take questions from reporters. in march than ever in "c-span2". in about 20 minutes. only to reaction to the president trump yesterday, his event where he executive order of police reform braided and he talked about our kids need to

support the police . and not dismantled the police departments . pres. trump:: today is about pursuing common sense and fighting. fighting for a cause like we seldom get the chance to fight for. we have to find common ground. but i strongly oppose the radical endangered severs to defend and dismantle and dissolve our police departments. especially now when we have achieved the lowest recorded crime rates in recent history. americans know the truth without police,po there is chaos. without law, there is anarchy and without safety, there is catastrophe. winning leaders in every level ofta government, the moral clary to see these obvious facts. americans believe we must support the brave men and women in blue to police our streets and keep us safe. americans also believe we must

improve accountability, increase transparency and invest more on resources. and police training and recruiting and community engagement. reducing crime and raising standards are not opposite goals. there are not mutually exclusive.ua they do work together and they all work together. host: david johns . david johns: there are number of things to come to mind. one in particular is that this administration has been clear and consistent in one thing and wantingwa disregard for doing things that are the best interest of our country. to be clear, the lack of safety and catastrophe that he is imagining is a very rude reality for many people across the country. sometimes on a daily basis. just yesterday, congress talking to a group of students black students . our children who are

dealing with messages of the problem that adults have created it. but they talk about is knowing that they are fearing for the lives. we don't believe the police are there to often show up to protect and serve them. they understand that in the history of black people, they feel police have been intentionally, to cause problems in black communities and otherwise to try to control the way we show up and the spaceses that we are allowed to inhabit. this is incredibly important for us to acknowledge that the commonsense thing thing to do, is to understand and appreciate the police are not experts in providing mental earth so services are sports. they're not experts in part providing critical services and support. and often responding that the needs individuals have and they calling for emergency assistance. as it says they should not be responsible for showing up in

those roles in trying to meet those needs. instead this fund assisted to be taken from the police department invested in qualified and competent providers. individuals who can properly de-escalate situations. reduce the rate at which police officers killed people, kill people who are black, kill people with disabilities and sometimes the people were white often with to a lesser extent than the dubai people and otherwise show up and in with community. blessing is so many of the work that he used are dog whistles. intentional and actors are more people use the rule of law to identify the need to control black bodies pretty we should all be clear about that pretty consistent in ensuring that communities have the support that they need in order to be well. that has not happened here. there's a reason why there are so many people literally risking their lives to protest and eidemand shift to spacebar communities are safe and are

protected. host: let's go to louisville, kentucky. democratico color. guest: i wanted to say that i agree with mr. john's but i wanted to do something, want to dissect when they were handcuffing him rucks, he realized, he was fighting for his life because as i watched the video w again, he knew his adrenaline was pumping so hard because he was on the ground. the other one before he ran. he was literally about black man fighting for his life. so is fighting everything he could. and then when he ran, he realized he was running for his life. if you remember, everything was calm until they wanted to put the handcuffs on him pretty was they wanted to handcuff him he

was fine flight. he knew just two weeks ago, he sought african americans, within gifts on, they killed him. and also i wanted to say, if they can't have immunity in all of this, please quit braided we just need you. that is theea issue. they think they're above the law the cost. they are here to serve us. the finished with this pretty used to train the children. anything was happening, but they were in a position of danger. the first thing you do is find a place pretty can't do that no more because this may kill them. also, with god too many white supremacists of the police force. i was in everyday. they should defend the place for the money back into the communities where they belong. in the place don't want to live in this command tease, then they don't need to be the place.

the place, they are all only people in this country i can take a life with impunity. a doctor cannot take the line we just cannot take a look. a citizen can take your life. the president can takee your life. but 68 -year-old african-american man i know, anytime i come in the presence of a white police officer, my life might be in danger. is that enough pretty thinking of rated. david johns: what he said is accurate. we both know based on quantitative data and authority, there are statistics that confirmed what he just described it. i is a highly credentialed black man who has worked in the white house, who is in all of the things well-intentioned white people would say too black peope should do, to demonstrate that they are worthy of the things of any right take for granted. whenever i am in the presence of not only police officers but

other individuals who act as if they are agents of the state. i think often about how reflective these moments are. this body of evidence continues to grow to affirm the experiences that african-americans have an in this regard all too often. ien think the topic of the experience of knowing anthony walt, a young black man he was choked outside of the waffle house restaurant. that was in north carolina years ago. anthony talked about havingon dared witness just the week prior to young man it was shot by a lease officer while handcuffs pretty so we have to be clear about the connections that exist. inin these moments in the last think that i will say about this is the police chief in minnesota, anthony mireles, made the point clear as day anybody was willing to listen, the policing in our country is looted and racism antiblack is printing but was unclear about how much is option watch central

park color the weapon is the police selectmen is simply observe a policy that was directed imagine by white people. host: first executive act educational excellence on african-americans. going to suzanne in washington. guest: i just want to say i don't understand where you coming from. because the statistics are coming up different . name suggestion. all of the people color. you want to say that way. once you apply to the police department and become cops. and you walk a mile in the shoes, that is all saying. how about check that out. changesan come from within. try that pretty thank you. david johns: appreciate the question and i would also like to know the statistic statistice

referencing. too often the case people make mistakes without actually having the statistics to back it up. the second thingri is there are african-american people in asian american people, people disabilities who show up and serve . who are police officers. there is also data that shows that the training thet police officers are forced to go through, changes the way they interact with black people. this none of people color issue. why people and people color when they don't want to talk about white supremacy antiblack is, things that make them unthinkable. they should make you in humble. especially if you have to experience them. daily. the point here is that you can gluten find individuals who are black police officers who will talk about that way print profile themselves because of the way you're trying think about black people. host: anthony, albany, georgia pretty good morning to you. guest: good morning greta i've

been here for 30 years my question is, with the president. during the investigation of russia. his complaining about this fbi and the leadership for the fbi being corrupted. so they going quickly and accused them. but now it is the police. and they are complaining and he is saying that that when he laid the blame on the whole department of the fbi, and on top of that, your georgia, polie officers for my lifetime, i'll be 55 in a couple of weeks. they have made innocent blackman to keep them out of the fulfillment of the life in the

lifetime. you're no longer qualified for jobs, benefits. they regularly establish the community and societies and look at this and it is so sad. you got the congressman still in denial . because it protects them in the will and they do not want to share the wealth of this country. thank you greta from taking michael brady and brother john's, you're doing a great job. you got my support. and we are praying for our nation. have a good day during a sue and i appreciate that. and greta, i thought about two things. what is it anti- legislation was first introduced in congress after death of one blackman. them quite some time ago. still reality then there are cities in the country primarily

in the south, primarily occupied disproportionately by black people who still do not have anti- racial laws. that is why this many people there marching in georgia for ahmaud arbery. next be clear about this. literally our reality now. >> today the subcommittee will be having virtually. does not have any of us would like to perform her duties but we essentially this is an necessity of the current moment. our question and slowing the spread of covid-19. reminders to the members but the conduct of the sintering. keep their video feeding on as long as they are present at the hearing . memos are responsible